YES'S DRAMA
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Topic: YES'S DRAMA
Posted By: Ghostnote
Subject: YES'S DRAMA
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 21:50
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If you can ignore the fact that Jon Anderson is not singing on the album "DRAMA", I think this is
an exellant album. It has pretty much every thing that's likeable about PROG music.
I hope i am not crucified for making such a blasphemised statement that another singer could
sing on a YES record
PLEASE FORGIVE ME!
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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 21:52
I cant ------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?" 
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GHOSTNOTE wrote:Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 21:53
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pfff... if you ignore this album just because Anderson isn't on it....
you're not worthy of being a prog fan. Open-minded baby.. that's
what it's all about. GREAT album.. in my top 5 Yesalbums.
------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 22:01
| Great album. Howe, Squire, and White are firing on all cylinders here. |
Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 22:07
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I actually was expecting not to like this this album, but it's very good. it is different, but that's a good thing. I wouldn't have wanted the new guys to just be session men. I think it was the last four star Yes album. There is no argument that it is better than "Tormato," but I think it is even better than "Going for the One." ------------- a.k.a. H.T. http://riekels.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow - http://riekels.wordpress.com |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 22:11
Well, I can't go quite that far...  |
Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 22:15
With the exception of a few tracks, I find GftO rather uninteresting. ------------- a.k.a. H.T. http://riekels.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow - http://riekels.wordpress.com |
Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 22:16
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bad album, but some good moments on it.
but I must say I would have ranked it amongst the likes of Union and Open Your eyes if Anderson would have carried the lead vocals.
luckely Jon wasn't present when they created this drama so I need not consider it as an actual Yes piece, and can judge it without the previous background.
still basically it isn't really good. ------------- I'm always almost unlucky _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Id5ZcnjXSZaSMFMC Id5LM2q2jfqz3YxT |
Posted By: bundy
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 22:17
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The last great Yes album. By far their most under appreciated album. It's a really strong album in that while Machine Messiah rightly gets most of the attention there are some other great tracks on the album. Into the Lens is brilliant as is Tempus Fugit. Man in a White Car is one of my favourite sub two minute filler tracks on any album by any band. ------------- They who know do not speak! They who talk do not know! |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 22:26
personally I see it the same way... for what it's worth.. Tormato gets more plays in the player than GFTO. My least listened to of the essential Yes albums of the 70's. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Dalezilla
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 22:53
Drama is my favorite Yes album. 
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Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 22:57
use smaller letters, some may read what it says  ------------- I'm always almost unlucky _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Id5ZcnjXSZaSMFMC Id5LM2q2jfqz3YxT |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 23:08
hmmm... I tend to define bad albums as those lacking... good moments... hahah ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: The Letter M
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 23:09
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Drama is probably one of my favorite Yes albums, much in the same way that Duke (same year, same first letter) for Genesis is one of my favorite albums.
The dominance of Squire's bass playing, as well as a tight sound brought to the table by Howe and White with newcomers and one-time Yesmen Downes and Horn, this incarnation of Yes probably would've made a sweet second album if they stayed together. Unfortunately, most people didn't and still can't get around the Anderson-less Yes on Drama, with it's appropriate title, but with some harder-edged music that I enjoy. -Marc. ------------- I know what I like and I like what I know. I will choose a path that's clear, I will choose free will. If I die tomorrow, I`d be alright because I believe that after we`re gone, the spirit carries on. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 23:14
well said... I always thought Drama spotlighted the underappreciated critical component of the 'Yessound' which were their stellar vocal harmonies. Though there is no Anderson.. it still sounds like Yes vocal-wise.... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: dagrush
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 23:14
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I really don't see what Duke and Drama have to do with each other, aside from being released in the same year. I think Drama is Yes's last four star album. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/omgwtfdagrush/"> 
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Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 23:21
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Actually, Drama is one of my favorites. Those who don't like it simply because Anderson's not on it are (probably) the same people who don't like Marillion because Fish isn't with them anymore. It's the inability to progress along with a band.
I'll go to my grave believing that Drama is one of the better Yes albums. E ------------- 
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Posted By: Dalezilla
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 23:32
*hides*
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Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 23:41
quoting only enlarges the possibility of someone actually reading it.
hide deeper.
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Posted By: Dalezilla
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 23:49
Close to the Edge is amazing!! Fragile is incredible!!
That should prevent people from reading the small text.
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Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: July 27 2006 at 00:17
Wait a minute E. Did you not see my post? I like Drama. And you and I have had more than a few discussions about Fisless Marillion. I am also a fan of Trevor Horn. He is very creative, and has been involved with many outstanding projects. Steve Hogarth does not impress me as having the same kind of talent.------------- a.k.a. H.T. http://riekels.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow - http://riekels.wordpress.com |
Posted By: Sacred 22
Date Posted: July 27 2006 at 00:39
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I remember waiting with baited breath to hear Drama and I was left in a state of wanting after the first hearing. Ya, I like the album. The worst part about Drama was the tour. It was awful. Trevor Horn had so much trouble with the other Yes stuff. It was kind of embarrassing to watch and hear really. I felt for him.
It really was Yes' last great album. The end of a era if you will. Magnification gives us hope for better things to come.
Here is my list of Yes albums in order of preference:
1. TFTO
2. CTTE
3. The Yes Album
4. Relayer
5. Fragile
6. Magnification
7. Tormato
8. GFTO
9. Key Studio
10. Drama
11. Yes
12. Time and a Word |
Posted By: martinprog77
Date Posted: July 27 2006 at 04:08
 for me is even better that close to the edge ------------- Nothing can last there are no second chances. Never give a day away. Always live for today. |
Posted By: Australian
Date Posted: July 27 2006 at 05:40
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Not at all, Drama is a fantasic album. Tempus Fugit and Macheine Messiah are amazing songs. ------------- 
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: July 27 2006 at 05:54
I was near the front of Hammersmith Odeon on that tour. I remember watching Trevor Horn going red in the face trying to get the high notes on the Anderson songs. I too felt sorry for him.
Drama is an excellent album, as others have said the rhythm section really excels. Listen to Squire and White on "Into the lens".
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Posted By: Eetu Pellonpaa
Date Posted: July 27 2006 at 07:21
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I think it's a good album, and "Machine Messiah" is a great song!
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Posted By: Phil
Date Posted: July 27 2006 at 07:23
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I like Drama; I love the Squire/White combination that drives it along; "Tempus Fugit" and "Does it Really Happen" are really great; I like the fact that after going into decline (Tormato wasn't so good, and if you have the Rhino remaster of Drama you can hear some of the very poor tracks they started to lay down with Roy T Baker), they re-invented themselves (and not for the last time). However...without Anderson something is missing; I find the songs don't bear repeated listenings in the way previous Yes material does; and nothing can remove the embarrassment I faced in my final school year as my fellow pupils fell about laughing to the news that my favourite band, Yes, who had produced such classics as Going for the One and Roundabout, were to merge with the bl**dy Buggles......
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Posted By: Progger
Date Posted: July 27 2006 at 07:48
It's a YES classic in every sense!
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Posted By: A'swepe
Date Posted: July 27 2006 at 08:58
Let's not forget (Man In A) White Car. There's not a bad song in the album. While certainly not my favorite from Yes, It is far from my least favorite (Big Generator - Ugh!).
A very good collection of songs & I for one really like it. In 1980 it was a refreshing change. ------------- David - Never doubt in the dark that which you believe to be true in the light. http://www.myspace.com/aardvarktxusa - Instrumental rock http://www.soundclick.com/aardvarktxusa |
Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: July 27 2006 at 09:04
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<<Wait a minute E. Did you not see my post? I like Drama. And you and I have had more than a few discussions about Fisless Marillion. I am also a fan of Trevor Horn. He is very creative, and has been involved with many outstanding projects. Steve Hogarth does not impress me as having the same kind of talent.>>
My comment wasn't directed at anyone in particular--simply a general observation. As for the Horn vs. Hogarth debate, they both possess special talents. Horn's good at what he does, as H is good at what he does. E -------------
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Posted By: Intruder
Date Posted: July 27 2006 at 09:29
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Drama was a refreshing new direction....GFTO was metallic and shrill at times and Tormato was a poorly conceived continuation and expansion of the GFTO sound. I'm always pleased when I plop Drama on....but it doesn't make the turntable very often. ------------- I like to feel the suspense when you're certain you know I am there..... |
Posted By: Chicapah
Date Posted: July 27 2006 at 09:39
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I tried to listen with fresh ears to Drama some years ago but still came away from it extremely unimpressed. It just doesn't work for me at all and I consider it even worse than the blah Tormato that popped the Yes balloon for me when it was released. Going for the One was the band's swan song for me. ------------- "Literature is well enough, as a time-passer, and for the improvement and general elevation and purification of mankind, but it has no practical value" - Mark Twain |
Posted By: XTChuck
Date Posted: July 27 2006 at 10:48
I've always got a laugh out of prog fans who trash "Tormato" for whatever reason. To me, it's classic Yes. "Drama" doesn't fall into that catagory but that's not to say it's a BAD record. Sure, Anderson and Wakeman were gone and The Buggles were kind of an odd choice for replacements but Squire, Howe and White were still blowing me away.
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Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: July 27 2006 at 12:47
| I still feel it's a far better effort than the sub par 'Tormato'. Although some songs are insubstantial- 'Run Through The Light', 'Man In A White Car'- one of them is first class Yes, 'Machine Messiah', and I like 'Into The Lens', 'Does It Really Happen' and 'Tempus Fugit' a lot. |
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: July 27 2006 at 12:50
| I must admit I haven't heard "Drama" for ages (though I should still have the vinyl record somewhere), but I remember I used to dig quite a lot. "Machine Messiah" cooks indeed, though I can't say I'm crazy about Trevor Horn's vocals. |
Posted By: _sam_
Date Posted: July 27 2006 at 13:04
| The second album I ever purchased by Yes. It's a favorite of mine, I love every song barring "Run Through The Light", which is at least 'okay'. Also, the album cover is my favorite Roger Dean Yes cover; to me it somehow goes well with the music. |
Posted By: Evans
Date Posted: July 27 2006 at 13:11
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I'm probably one of those that can't "progress along with a band"... It doesn't really matter how god it is, for me, Jon Andersson IS yes, in a way. I mean, the lyrics, the high-pitched voice.. |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: July 27 2006 at 16:53
| Drama is as far as I'm concerned one of the best Yes albums. So what Anderson and wakeman are not there. Amazing album! Steve Howe and Geoff Downes really completed each other! Listen to the album carefully.Trevor Horn does a great job here. Newcomer G. Downes fitted in perfectly. No fillers on this album. I kinda regret the album is rather short (38 minutes long). |
Posted By: progadicto
Date Posted: July 27 2006 at 23:39
 Great album... really... the arrangements are awsome and the abscence of Anderson's vocals (and compositions) gives us the chance to enjoy the creative talent of Chris Squire and Steve Howe... I love Machine Messiah and Tempus Fugit...
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Posted By: Arsillus
Date Posted: July 27 2006 at 23:56
Underrated! |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 29 2006 at 20:32
good man.... it's in my top 5 Yes albums.... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: mystic fred
Date Posted: July 30 2006 at 06:10
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I approached "Drama" with some trepidation on its initial release due to the absence of Jon Anderson and the "Buggles" connection, but was very pleasantly surprised - there was the brilliant Roger Dean artwork, good punchy proggy songs, excellent musicianship - i was won over! I had just bought a new stereo system and was blown away by the powerful sound. Trevor's vocals suited Yes nicely, Steve Howe, Alan White and Chris Squire hardly played better, i couldn't keep the album off the turntable and nagged all my friends about it, apart from PG3 and "Ready an' Willing" Drama was my favourite album of 1980!!!
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 still one of my regular favourites after 26 years!! -------------  Prog Archives Tour Van 
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Posted By: M. B. Zapelini
Date Posted: July 30 2006 at 07:42
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When I bought "Drama" on vinyl, almost 20 years ago, I didn't like it very much. Personnally, I'm not that fond of Jon's voice, although I recognize that he is a terrific singer with an unique voice, so I do not give much importance to Horn's voice. I was a bit disappointed with "Drama" at that time. A few years later, a friend of mine got an import CD and I listened carefully to it - and my opinions suddenly have changed. Later, I bought the remastered CD edition, which I listen frequently (can't say the same to many of Yes' other albums). "Drama" is not at my Yes Top 5, but it's placed at my Top 10 and as an album which grew on me along the years, it will always be a favorite. ------------- "He's a man of the past and one of the present" PETER HAMMILL |