Mastermind behind YES?
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Topic: Mastermind behind YES?
Posted By: Gravity Eyelids
Subject: Mastermind behind YES?
Date Posted: August 21 2006 at 10:25
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I was just looking at the poll 'prog hall of fame' and notice Steve was ahead of Jon, so I made this poll.
I always thought without a doubt in my mind that Jon was the mastermind, but maybe not...
(NOT ASKING WHO IS MORE TALENTED) ------------- Into this wild Abyss the fiend Stood on the brink of Hell and looked a while, Pondering his Voyage. |
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: August 21 2006 at 10:27
| Definitely 'other'... meaning Chris Squire! He was always the mastermind of Yes, and the only constant presence in their long, troubled history. |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: August 21 2006 at 12:28
| I certainly don't want to give Howe's contributions short shrift, but I believe it was Anderson who had the vision for the masterworks of Yes we all love. |
Posted By: MuzikLuva
Date Posted: August 21 2006 at 12:35
| I have to agree with Ghost Rider here. While Jon Anderson may have had the visions, Chris has been the most instrumental in bringing them to fruition. Jon is extremely talented but I think musically Chris takes the cake on this one. You can see how much he has influenced the group via his Fish Out Of Water album alone. |
Posted By: Open-Mind
Date Posted: August 21 2006 at 12:59
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Other - Chris Squire
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Posted By: Kleynan
Date Posted: August 21 2006 at 14:19
Squire big time!  Howe and Anderson share the second place though...------------- 
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Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: August 21 2006 at 15:09
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Yes, i understand your poll, and i clearly understand that despite my love fo Wakeman, Squire has my vote...only according to the poll ------------- Follow me on twitter @memowakeman |
Posted By: Gravity Eyelids
Date Posted: August 21 2006 at 15:21
Wakeman, seems like a really nice guy, and funny too. ------------- Into this wild Abyss the fiend Stood on the brink of Hell and looked a while, Pondering his Voyage. |
memowakeman wrote:Posted By: Eetu Pellonpaa
Date Posted: August 21 2006 at 15:24
Roger Dean  (made me buy their album)
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Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: August 21 2006 at 15:46
Haha, nice answer! ... ------------- Follow me on twitter @memowakeman |
Posted By: ryba
Date Posted: August 21 2006 at 15:48
| CHRIS |
Posted By: Arsillus
Date Posted: August 21 2006 at 15:49
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Squire and Anderson. |
Posted By: The Green Tank
Date Posted: August 21 2006 at 15:57
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Jon was clearly the mastermind behind most of their stuff, with Chris Squire coming in second. ------------- 
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: August 21 2006 at 16:30
Chris Squire clearly started the band! 
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Posted By: Liquid Len
Date Posted: August 21 2006 at 16:49
Chris Squire of course.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: August 21 2006 at 18:20
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Anderson was the guidiing force of that band from day 1.... no question of that.. regardless of how important Squire was.... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: chessman
Date Posted: August 21 2006 at 18:26
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I voted Other here. Without a doubt, Chris Squire, for me, is the mastermind behind Yes.
He is integral to their sound, and I doubt much happens in the band without his say so.
Proof, for me, lies in two albums. When Anderson left, they made Drama, and they were still called Yes.
When Squire wasn't present, they made an album called ABWH. In other words, they couldn't be called Yes without Chris.
The band can survive very well without Anderson's daft lyrics, on the other hand, it would struggle without Squire's consummate bass playing.
As for Howe...well, he tries, bless him, but he should just stick to playing.
(Admittedly the one exception to this is the wonderful TFTO, conceived by Howe and Anderson)
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Posted By: Gravity Eyelids
Date Posted: August 21 2006 at 19:00
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"Jon was a major creative force and band leader throughout the period (describing himself as the 'team captain') and is recognised as the main instigator of the series of epics produced by Yes at the time. His role in creating such complex pieces as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Close_to_the_Edge - Close to the Edge , Awaken and especially The Gates Of Delirium is central, despite his limited intrumental abilities." Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Anderson - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Anderson
Does this prove anything? No, but I thought I would put it up anyway. ------------- Into this wild Abyss the fiend Stood on the brink of Hell and looked a while, Pondering his Voyage. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: August 21 2006 at 19:06
couldn't agree more with several of your points..... are are 3 things that define the Yes sound and Squrie was directly responicible for two.... he is was and will always be the face of Yes for most people.. but that band was Anderson's EVERY move that band made...had Andrerson fingerprints all over it.. .as well as a previous poster just said... being directly involved in the creation of some of their greatest masterworks... Anderson was called 'little Napolean' by the group... it was his baby.. he formed it and led it through the great years... and took a foundering comeback album...and made it a classic that (for better or for worse) gave the band another 20+ years of life.... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Gravity Eyelids
Date Posted: August 21 2006 at 19:16
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couldn't agree more with several of your points..... are are 3 things that define the Yes sound and Squrie was directly responicible for two.... he is was and will always be the face of Yes for most people.. but that band was Anderson's EVERY move that band made...had Andrerson fingerprints all over it.. .as well as a previous poster just said... being directly involved in the creation of some of their greatest masterworks... Anderson was called 'little Napolean' by the group... it was his baby.. he formed it and led it through the great years... and took a foundering comeback album...and made it a classic that (for better or for worse) gave the band another 20+ years of life.... [/QUOTE] ------------- Into this wild Abyss the fiend Stood on the brink of Hell and looked a while, Pondering his Voyage. |
Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: August 21 2006 at 20:09
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For me Yes works his best as a group effort!!! So I must say all!!!
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Posted By: Sacred 22
Date Posted: August 21 2006 at 21:02
Jon Anderson with out a doubt......Chris Squire.........please 
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Posted By: Australian
Date Posted: August 22 2006 at 02:39
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All members contributed a great deal and the writing of songs is spread over the five classic members. Jon Anderson comes up with most of the ideas and lyrics while the others come up with the music, usually. There is also some collaboration between past and current members, for example Patrick Moraz collaborated with Rick Wakeman over some the writing on Going for the One. ------------- 
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Posted By: Sacred 22
Date Posted: August 22 2006 at 02:46
It's like a company and Jon Anderson is the Boss. The others do their respective jobs for the company under the direction of the Boss and are allowed to use the suggestion box.
Steve Howe would be Jon's main advisor.
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Posted By: Australian
Date Posted: August 22 2006 at 02:48
Steve Howe and Jon Anderson wrote most of Close to the Edge. Jon Anderson isn't a bad boss
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Posted By: Sacred 22
Date Posted: August 22 2006 at 03:05
I'm sure a few nasty words flew around the studio etc., but as in any business. You need direction and you are going to step on someone's toes from time to time. Their work speaks for itself.
I sure do hope they go out with a bang though. That would sure be the icing on the cake.
 Ok enough of me being over bloated Yes Fanboy.  |
Posted By: MattiR
Date Posted: August 22 2006 at 04:23
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Yes can be considered as "Dream Team" (do you remember famous basketball team, which played in Barcelona in 1992 during Olympic Games?). In my opinion only Jon Anderson is mastermind of Yes. He was one of two initiators of Yes. He has written great lyrics for Yes. His voice is beautiful --> I can't imagine Yes without him! Yes without Anderson - comic "Drama"... I know Chris Squire's status in Yes is unquestionable, but Anderson is still Nr 1. I think - according to questions connected with organizational and personal issues - Anderson and Squire are equally important. But - on music field - Anderson is leader. |
Posted By: Norbert
Date Posted: August 22 2006 at 07:41
| Although I could not imagine Yes without the masterful bass playing of Chris, the mastermind behind the band has to be Jon. |
Posted By: Gravity Eyelids
Date Posted: August 22 2006 at 13:02
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Heres a video that could shed some light on this subject (the second video down):
http://www.myspace.com/jonandersonmusic - http://www.myspace.com/jonandersonmusic
About half way through the video Jon says he is the main Orcastrater of Yes, although it's just Jon talking and not solid proof. ------------- Into this wild Abyss the fiend Stood on the brink of Hell and looked a while, Pondering his Voyage. |
Posted By: Melomaniac
Date Posted: August 31 2006 at 10:38
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Chris Squire IS Yes. If you haven't noticed, he always kept the name, while Anderson, Bruford, Wakeman and Howe were on their side. ------------- "One likes to believe in the freedom of Music" - Neil Peart, The Spirit of Radio |
Posted By: yarstruly
Date Posted: August 31 2006 at 10:47
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Of the choices, Anderson, but 2 very important choices were absent....Chris Squire, and in the 80's-early 90's, Trevor Rabin!
Chris is the "keeper of the Yes flame' (the only one on all Yes titled albums) the man who co-founded the band with Jon, and a force to be reconed with!
And though Rabin is villified by many, he was the main inspiration and songwrither during the 80s & early 90s...he must be acknowledged....
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