Dream Theater: Score
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Topic: Dream Theater: Score
Posted By: E-Dub
Subject: Dream Theater: Score
Date Posted: August 25 2006 at 21:23
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Watching Dream Theater's Score on VH1 Classic right now. This has the makings of a GREAT live DVD! I think we all knew that, but so far it's pretty cool!
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Posted By: Hopeless
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 05:03
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Oh, to bad i didn't saw the messege yesterday.
Thanks for updating anyway. ------------- If i have any spelling\grammar mistakes, ignore them. English is only my second language <_< 
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 07:32
I didn't ..... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
E-Dub wrote:Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 09:14
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<<I didn't .....>>
Didn't ask you. Probably upset because DT can outsell the nobodies at the bottom of your posts any day of the week. E -------------
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 09:38
E, don't feed the trolls.  Should be a great DVD...I went to the show in Philly, it was the one right before the Radio City show. Of course they did not have the orchestra and performance of the entire Six Degrees, but the performance of Octovarium (the track) was incredible, I appreciated it much more after seeing and hearing it live. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 09:44
ahhh.. the voice of reason... *reigns in horse* a troll to some......a NIGHTMARE to others....  ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 11:03
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I simply can't see why people want to venture into a thread for a band they can't stand. Your only purpose is to stir up some sh*t. Here's an idea--make a contribution. What a concept, eh?
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Posted By: Arsillus
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 11:12
I think it's part of being on the Symph prog team E. 
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 11:16
That might well be... Anyway, this is all in good fun, and no one was killed, I think. Sometimes we may be a bit out of line, but we don't do it maliciously. If you want to see really malicious behaviour, look elsewhere.... |
Posted By: JayDee
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 11:17
   Right on! ------------- 
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Posted By: Arsillus
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 11:18
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 I've come to expect it. I missed it for a while, actually. |
Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 12:05
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Maybe it's just me, but I simply stay out of the threads that have absolutely no interest to me. I like talking about things that make me passionate about progressive music. Progressive music should be positive and uplifting, and if I were to go into...say...a Jethro Tull thread and start spouting off about how much I dislike their music, then I become an unwelcomed guest and bring down the spirit in which the thread was created. Sorry, but I don't want to do that to the other members. I firmly believe in INDIVIDUALITY, and for me to go into that thread and bring it down, then it's being disrespectful to the individuality of the people who appreciate Tull's music.
Off the soapbox now. E -------------
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Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 14:24
| I'm excited to grab this on Tuesday. |
Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 17:25
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From seeing the trackist, it should be amazing. Entire 6DOIT and Octavarium...
Getting it next tuesday when it comes out. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ocellatedgod" rel="nofollow - last.fm |
Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 17:52
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Gonna' get it as fast as possible ------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 18:48
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I cant wait until it comes out but I have to say that I am a bit worried as their are a lot of tracks of Octavarium on their, and its their weakist album (that I've heard) so far. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005 
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 19:57
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I'll be getting the DVD hopefully this tuesday too. I don't mind that the concert has alot of Octavarium songs because I was in one of their concerts and I walk beside you sounded alot better than the album version, Panic attack was full of power and Sacrifised sons was very emotional (not to mention The root... and Octavarium) As always, DT sounded better live and LaBrie's voice improved alot since the Live at Budokan show.
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Posted By: Cygnus X-2
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 20:00
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I saw some of the dvd footage today on VH1 Classic when they were showing highlights from the show (I saw Sacrificed Sons) and it looks as if the concert portion of it will be a great watch.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 20:10
hahaha as one who is either: a) on a soapbox or b) in the sewer I appreciate your post..... if you hadn't figured it by now... let me explain.... it's all for fun... being a conscious decision on my part to try to inject a bit of 'humour' (my attempt at, at the very least haha) into discussion where by the nature of the music and it's fans... can be a bit serious and oh....pretentous. overblown.. indulgent...excessive
No harm intended... besides ....attention from the symphonic team means
we feel your thread is of potential sufficient quality to actually have
meaningful discussion about DT...thus a great threat and worthy of a
visit to remind you who are the kings... err.. and queen of PA's
hahahhahah. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 20:12
| hmmmm DVD or CD............... |
Posted By: Cygnus X-2
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 20:15
Why not both? -------------
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Posted By: WaywardSon
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 20:17
| I would go with the DVD, just to see John Myung in action. His bass is always mixed too low, even when I use headphones it´s difficult to hear him. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 20:21
anyone care to expain WHY that is so.... I figure one of you fans has seen that question asked somewhere... one reason why I don't like them.... the prog I love and grew up with... you heard that damn bass and it was integral to the music. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 20:24
$$$  ------------- |
Posted By: WaywardSon
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 20:28
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I remember reading that Mike Portnoy said he follows Petrucci´s guitar and doesn´t follow the bass. Those were his exact words! Micky, try check out the DVD "Scenes from New York" Actually watching them play is well...pretty mind blowing!
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 20:34
I
guess Portnoy can't hear him either... I'll check and see if I
can find a buddy who has got a copy of it... never watched a
musical DVD with the sound off just to 'watch' them play... but I'm an
open-minded guy and willing to try anyone once  ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Dirk
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 20:49
http://%5Bimg%5Drateyourmusic.com/album_images/6636.jpg%5B/img%5D"> Edit: Sorry wrong thread  . Still a nice album though. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 20:54
hmmm... interesting indeed.... the visual equivalent of Myungs contribution to Dream Theater I guess... great post... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 21:11
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Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 21:52
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<<if you hadn't figured it by now... let me explain.... it's all for fun... being a conscious decision on my part to try to inject a bit of 'humour'>>
OK? I went back and read your initial post, and although the line of "Not me" isn't exactly George Carlin, I'll take your word that you were attempting to be funny. <<attention from the symphonic team means we feel your thread is of potential sufficient quality to actually have meaningful discussion about DT...thus a great threat and worthy of a visit to remind you who are the kings... err.. and queen of PA's hahahhahah.>> If you feel you're that important, then we're all entitled to delusions of grandeur. Actually, the only opinions who matter (as it pertains to my worthiness) either live under my roof, or within my circle of family and friends. Other than that, think what you want to think, but I'll quit taking it all so seriously. Deal? E  -------------
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: August 26 2006 at 22:18
haha you'd be wise to do that or we won't get along.... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Ed_The_Dead
Date Posted: August 27 2006 at 07:47
Oi, quit it, kids!
Well, I'm kinda short of money right now So i won't ge getting that dvd anytime soon.
And when I have money, I'll have to buy the Evergrey, PoS and SoP dvds 1st...
But I will get it someday
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Posted By: sean
Date Posted: August 27 2006 at 11:59
| yeah, one of my friends and i were in the store yesterday and we found it, much to our surprises. it was amazing. |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: August 27 2006 at 19:37
Why is it people always say this, I only ever have trouble hearing him on Six Degrees, he's loud and clear on a cheap stereo for me normally.  ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Posted By: WaywardSon
Date Posted: August 27 2006 at 20:18
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Íf you listen to Chris Squire or Geddy Lee the bass really stands out, also Dave Hope from Kansas.
But with Myung, too much of his playing is lost in the mix. I really don´t know why they haven´t done something about it because he is a brilliant bassist.
I haven´t heard Score yet, I wonder what the bass sounds like on this?
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Posted By: Jeff Schu
Date Posted: August 30 2006 at 00:05
Yeah it is all in good fun I suppose, C'mon Mikey, Did you ever finish Scenes From a Memory yet???
BTW, I think you should watch the SCORE DVD just to see them perform "Six Degrees of Inner Turbulance" in full with a "30 Peice Orchestra" dubbed the "Octavarium Orchestra". It was amazing to witness and very impressive to hear. I was at the show so at least take my word for it. You may at least appreciate it. I suggest you check it out regardless of your qualms with the band. ------------- 
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Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: August 30 2006 at 17:58
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I picked up both the CD and DVD yesterday; however, only been able to listen to the disc. Just started disc 2 with 6DOIT. Getting ready to head home now, so I'll get to enjoy it here shortly.
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: August 30 2006 at 19:40
 I need to get it still!
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Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: August 31 2006 at 09:28
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<<haha you'd be wise to do that or we won't get along....>>
If the latter happens, I won't lose sleep over it. E -------------
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Posted By: hamham
Date Posted: September 01 2006 at 14:13
| Awesome recording of a live show, I loved it :P |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: September 01 2006 at 17:04
actually I did the obligatory 7 listens and then some.. and listened to it again today.. if I run across the DVD....I'll check it out... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Jeff Schu
Date Posted: September 01 2006 at 22:45
Ah so you did finish it and more then a few times. Great... That album is a personal fav of mine so I'm curious as to your thoughts and opinions on the album. So, How was it??? -------------
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Posted By: GoldenSpiral
Date Posted: September 02 2006 at 01:31
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I was sent a promo copy. It's really not that great. Too much stuff from Octavarium, too little else. ------------- http://www.myspace.com/altaic" rel="nofollow - http://www.myspace.com/altaic ALTAIC "Oceans Down You'll Lie" coming soon |
Posted By: lastdodobird
Date Posted: September 02 2006 at 03:12
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Disc 1 is great. Disc 2 is AWESOME. Disc 3 is just heaven. "Octavarium", "Metropolis" and "Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence" are the clear highlights of this album. Still, great setlist! Here's the tracklist: Disc 1 (band only)
Disc 2 (band /w orchestra)
Disc 3 (band /w orchestra)
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: September 02 2006 at 08:15
when I get back from ProgDay I plan on cranking out some long long overdue reviews. this one in the the 5 or so I feel I have to review. In short... not bad... it has some points that I really don't like but in other spots... I've caught myself liking. She will get 5 stars for the site.... but my personal rating... has moved upward over my first impression which ...well... was not positive.. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: September 02 2006 at 12:57
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I watched the DVD last night and I now have a greater appreciation for Dream Theater. The performance of "Octavarium" is pure magic. Honestly, you would be hard pressed to find a group of musicians so uniquely skilled on their respective instruments. I'll always be a Marillion and Rush fan first; however, the talent these guys possess had me at a loss for words last night.
You may not like the band; but, to not recognize the talent is a huge oversight. E -------------
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Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: September 02 2006 at 13:03
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Posted By: Trickster F.
Date Posted: September 03 2006 at 11:35
Yeah, everyone would be so furious if you did that!  ------------- sig |
Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: September 03 2006 at 16:26
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Which is why it never crossed my mind.
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Posted By: Visitor13
Date Posted: September 04 2006 at 09:14
50cent outsells DT every hour... |
Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: September 04 2006 at 09:35
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<<0cent outsells DT every hour...>>
I watched a video of said nobodies and they shouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath as Dream Theater. DT is famous worldwide for a reason. By the same token, how 50 Cent can outsell people of real talent who put musicianship first (i.e. Rush, DT, etc.) is a travesty. Wouldn't you say? E -------------
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Posted By: Trickster F.
Date Posted: September 04 2006 at 11:29
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How can you call him a "nobody"? That's very offensive towards the people who have read this thread and like his music.
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Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: September 04 2006 at 11:44
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Did you just call me a racist? My friend, you have no idea what you're talking about. My comment had nothing to do with race. You don't even know me, so how could you even consider calling anyone a racist?
My recommendation is you should go back and re-read each post word for word before jumping to any conclusions and marking me with the scarlet 'r'. I was offensive? My man, nothing I've ever said comes close to this post of yours. E -------------
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Posted By: WaywardSon
Date Posted: September 04 2006 at 11:54
| Not to cause waves, but I can´t see where E Dub made any racist remark at all. |
Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: September 04 2006 at 11:59
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WS, race never entered my realm of thinking. I'm not innocent as I haven't chosen my words wisely; however, to call someone a racist for no reason is inexcusable, in my opinion. It's something I definitely do not take lightly.
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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: September 04 2006 at 12:09
um, not sure what you saw, but when I was there, they didn't play Panic Attack (sadly) And Sacrificed Sons was indeed a highlight, but nothing compares to the Metropolis encore------------- 
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Posted By: Trickster F.
Date Posted: September 04 2006 at 12:30
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Deleted by admin ------------- sig |
Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: September 04 2006 at 12:38
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I can't even dignify that with a reply. You're truly a sad, sad person.
I hope you feel better about yourself. E -------------
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Posted By: Trickster F.
Date Posted: September 04 2006 at 12:41
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Way to take things so seriously. ------------- sig |
Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: September 04 2006 at 12:44
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You can't call a person a racist and not have it received in a serious manner. Just what planet are you from? Do you not comprehend the history defined in that one horrible word? My God, that one word has caused so much pain and bloodshed and I won't be identified with it. You obviously have no idea what it means to use it so casually.
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Posted By: Trickster F.
Date Posted: September 04 2006 at 12:53
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Okay, since E-Dub took it so seriously and even bombarded me with PMs with his threats, I guess I'll make it official and my first serious post in this thread.
I do not mean any disrespect to anything related to racism in history. I did not expect anyone to react in any other way but laughing at me, as I defended 50 Cent the most hilarious way possibly and posted a punchline in freaking Caps for God's sake... How somebody could be so hot and emotional to take offense, warning me with ridiculous threats, let alone taking a post obviously made in a joking manner(I have no idea how badly you must read not to see anything ridiculous on purpose in that comment). That's what you get from being laid back after a tiresome day of work, I guess.
I apologise to PA forum members for taking an on-topic thread into a pointless direction, and promise not to make any attempts at humour on subjects americans, people of a country which knows no joke with subjects of minorities(though my horrible joke was basically the vice versa, but whatever), since that is very likely to be understood incorrectly.
EDIT: Banning E-Dub from PMing me because of his immature for his age and disgusting behaviour. ------------- sig |
Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: September 04 2006 at 12:56
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Posted By: Trickster F.
Date Posted: September 04 2006 at 12:59
Yeah, no hard feelings.  Can everyone go back to discussing Score, ignoring the posts related to 50 Cent and E-Dub's misunderstanding? I'd appreciate that. So, is, uh, everyone satisfied with the tracks chosen for the setlist? What would you change?  ------------- sig |
Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: September 04 2006 at 13:04
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And therein lies the problem. Not one of my PM's were threats. The only thing remotely construde as a threat was reporting you to the admins, which I've done. I would've just as soon keep it out of the public forums; however, you've decided to make this public.
So, a.) you didn't read the post correctly because I didn't refer to 50 Cent as a nobody. The exchanges between Mickey and myself go back a bit further; b.) you obviously have no idea what the word 'racist' means; c.) you've viewed my PM's to you as threats when they were far from them. Tell us something, what's the color of the sky in your world? E -------------
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Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: September 04 2006 at 13:04
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I would have thrown in some more from Scenes from a Memory.
I wanted them to go into a little more detail as to why they got rid of Derek Sherinain. ------------- |
Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: September 04 2006 at 13:08
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<< would have thrown in some more from Scenes from a Memory.
I wanted them to go into a little more detail as to why they got rid of Derek Sherinain.>> And they didnt' even mention A Change Of Seasons. I would've liked a bit more information on that. E -------------
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Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: September 04 2006 at 13:10
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^True- except they said they wrote it before the found James- during the rough times of the band. So orobably around 90-91 ------------- |
Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: September 04 2006 at 13:51
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No more personal exchanges here please Trickster and E-Dub. If you have an issue with another member, refer it to the admin team in private. Trickster - Remember to use emoticons when required. Sometimes humour does not come across as such in the written form, when translated and so on.
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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: September 04 2006 at 13:51
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Admin Intervention.
Thread closed. 1 member to be spoken too.. |
Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: September 04 2006 at 13:51
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Admin Intervention.
Thread closed. 1 member to be spoken to.. |