That band you fear you will never get into
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Topic: That band you fear you will never get into
Posted By: el böthy
Subject: That band you fear you will never get into
Date Posted: September 16 2006 at 19:23
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I say fear, because its not like you dont have any interest in getting into it, you do, you want to...but somehow you cant. This music, this band you want to get into and cant must have something for you to want to understand and appretiate, something that atracts you... cause if you hate punk, and want to get into Sex Pistols...well, this is a bit mezmerising. But if you read or hear a lot of good things about this band, you become interested...and yet, the result is something your ears cant bare. I have that porblem with Meshuggah...specially cause I is held so high as one of the best compositions heavy metal has to offer. But then I listen to the sample songs from PA...and no, I dont like it, and I think I wont for a very long time, if ever! But you see, this is not the first time I had problems with a band. I used to hate grwing, and not understand why a band with this type of singing gets so many compliments...but I persisted, and now Opeth is pretty much my favorite prog metal band. But this is different, here there is nothing I like, no matter how much I want to... Has this ever happend to anybody? Im pretty sure there must be a lot of people in the same situation. ------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?" 
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Posted By: Australian
Date Posted: September 16 2006 at 19:26
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I just can't get into Opeth. I don't dislike metal, but I have a unknown problem with Opeth and all bands like Opeth. ------------- 
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: September 16 2006 at 19:27
Dream Theater, too clinical and too many scale-acrobatics  ...
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Posted By: Gravity Eyelids
Date Posted: September 16 2006 at 19:32
Try Damnation. I have the unknown probem too, but Damnation is the exception.
(I think the unknown problem is the growling.......... No wait, I know it is  )------------- Into this wild Abyss the fiend Stood on the brink of Hell and looked a while, Pondering his Voyage. |
Australian wrote:Posted By: Mikerinos
Date Posted: September 16 2006 at 19:36
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The Mars Volta. I don't know why exactly, since I like prog and can tolerate punk (and actually like some of it) and other harder prog. I think it's the vocalist, I can't stand him, but even the instrumental parts don't do too much for me. I've only heard De-Loused, and I'd give it 3 stars at best. ------------- 
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Posted By: Trickster F.
Date Posted: September 16 2006 at 19:40
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I don't have problems with anything. I'm just incompatible with various kinds of music, whereas some are especially pleasant to me and that's that.
And by "kinds of music" I do mean means of expression and direction rather than a genre, otherwise things would be too easy. There is something to find fascinating and ignore in each genre. ------------- sig |
Posted By: Single Coil
Date Posted: September 16 2006 at 19:42
Oh man, Opeth and Tool for me. I WANT to listen to them. I guess you could say that I respect them, I think they are talented... but yet they really don't "click" with me.  ------------- If it's worth playing, it's worth playing loud! |
Posted By: Australian
Date Posted: September 16 2006 at 19:44
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I liked a couple of songs from I will try Damnation. -------------
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Posted By: Gravity Eyelids
Date Posted: September 16 2006 at 19:45
It's very mellow and NO Growling.  ------------- Into this wild Abyss the fiend Stood on the brink of Hell and looked a while, Pondering his Voyage. |
Posted By: Mikerinos
Date Posted: September 16 2006 at 19:49
On my first listen to Lateralus, I was very impressed but as the album progressed, the songs seemed too similar to one another and I lost interest. -------------
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Posted By: dAJaro
Date Posted: September 16 2006 at 19:50
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there are quite a few bands out there which dont click at all: Opeth Tool Jethro Tull (I know - ouch) Radiohead PFM (for now - it will change) New Marillion Liquid Tension Exeriment ( I love DT but I cant bear two LTE albums in a row) Jazz in particular (not fusion though) ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/dAJaro/?chartstyle=basic10"> 
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Posted By: Australian
Date Posted: September 16 2006 at 19:51
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Tool is another band lost on me.
An Opeth album with no growling?
This is turning into an Opeth thread. -------------
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Posted By: Benjamin_Breeg
Date Posted: September 16 2006 at 19:59
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The Mars Volta and Liquid Tension Experiment ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Dream_Thief_/?chartstyle=Geldropdown2"> 
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 16 2006 at 20:04
| I will never get into Zeuhl. |
Posted By: Reverie
Date Posted: September 16 2006 at 20:24
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I had the same problem with "I" at first. I liked the first few minutes, but after that it just lost its magic. Then i listened to it again after a few months and not i think it's great. Still over-rated, but a very good song none-the-less.
As for me... i can't really think of any bands that fit in here. Not at the moment anyway. It happened when i first heard John Zorn. It didn't help that it was "The Art of Memory", which is pure free improv, and quite grating for somebody who's never heard such music before. But there was something indescribable that just kept pulling me back and making me listen again and again. Same thing recently with Dalek. My ego wouldn't let me get past the rapping. Part of me was already past it and enjoying the gritty ambience, but then there was the rapping. And then very recently i was listening to them and my ego just kind of dissolved. But generally i can tell straight off whether a band/artist has this potential or not, and if they don't i leave them alone and have no desire to like them. I suppose Dillinger Escape Plan might be one i can put here. I can hear the potential, but so far they just haven't clicked. |
Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: September 16 2006 at 20:34
No such band. And I like every band menioned here
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Posted By: WaywardSon
Date Posted: September 16 2006 at 20:40
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The Mars Volta. I don´t fear getting into them, it´s just a waste of time for me.
There is so much more music to explore...
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: September 16 2006 at 20:42
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Mahavishnu Orchestra
Robert Wyatt (just might....)
Mr. Bungle
Fantomas
And most RIO/Avant
There's a lot more I can't deal with, but I generally like my music moderately challenging or not at all, not challengish to the point of self-mutilation.  ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: BePinkTheater
Date Posted: September 16 2006 at 20:44
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Opeth and Rush ------------- I can strangle a canary in a tin can and it would be really original, but that wouldn't save it from sounding like utter sh*t. -Stone Beard |
Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: September 16 2006 at 20:46
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Muse
Mars Volta
Tool
Dream Theatre
Radiohead
..............curse them all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ------------- ...As I venture through the slipstream, between the viaducts in your dreams...[/COLOR] |
Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: September 16 2006 at 20:54
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Gentle Giant
Van Der Graff Generator Opeth (Ghost Reveries is WAY too gloomy and death metalish. I'll listen to Damnation on a fellow co-workers iTunes on Monday) Mars Volta Sigur Ros (Takk is good; however, with all I've heard it sounds like the same song and the vocals can be a bit borish at times.) E ------------- 
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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: September 16 2006 at 21:03
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If I had to list prog bands that I just don't like: Kansas, Symphony X, Asia and Styx. But it's not like I can't get into it, I just don't like some aspects of their music. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ocellatedgod" rel="nofollow - last.fm |
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: September 16 2006 at 21:29
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Tool and The Mars Volta.I still listen to The Mars Volta , and actually like a lot of it,just not crazy about them.I have a problem with the negativity of Tool.The raging against God and everything that moves, haha! ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: xtopher
Date Posted: September 16 2006 at 21:36
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I kind of feel this way about The Mars Volta, Tool, Gentle Giant, and Marillion... although I'm closer to accepting the fact that Tool and Marillion just aren't for me. I do kind of like both TMV's Deloused and GG's Octopus... but not enough to rush to the store to buy more of their albums.
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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: September 16 2006 at 21:36
Not at all! Raging against God... you mean Eulogy? That's not God, that's preachers. Look on one of the layers of the Lateralus biooklet, it has 'God' in the brains. Wonder why?  And they can be quite optimistic, just listen to Parabola. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ocellatedgod" rel="nofollow - last.fm |
Posted By: Bastille Dude
Date Posted: September 16 2006 at 21:48
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I appreciate what The Mars Volta are trying to do, but they haven't been able to "click" with me yet. In they're defence, I've only heard snippets of songs. ------------- DEATH TO FALSE PROG! |
Posted By: Gravity Eyelids
Date Posted: September 16 2006 at 22:01
Yeah, Tool has nothing against God at all. Lateralus and Reflection are also quite good tracks lyrically in a positive sense also. There is actually more to Tool lyrically then meets the eye. ------------- Into this wild Abyss the fiend Stood on the brink of Hell and looked a while, Pondering his Voyage. |
Posted By: ClemofNazareth
Date Posted: September 16 2006 at 22:12
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Genesis. Not that I 'fear' never getting into them, I just suspect I never will after all these years of opportunity.
I own several of the 70's albums and am sure they are of very high caliber, but there is simply no spark whatsoever that I get from hearing any of their music. I suspect there are probably cultural aspects to this, much like why very few Brits much fancy Kansas or the Allman Brothers, but seem to think highly of Wishbone Ash. There's really no band here I really strongly dislike (with the notable exception of Triumph  ), although there are of course certain albums that are probably hopeless, even some from Yes, Kansas, Jethro Tull, and Pink Floyd.
Just my two cents, for whatever it's worth. ------------- "Peace is the only battle worth waging." Albert Camus |
Posted By: Leningrad
Date Posted: September 16 2006 at 22:18
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The Mars Volta
Tool
The KC song "Elephant Talk" (sorry
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Posted By: Nanook
Date Posted: September 16 2006 at 22:19
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The Mars Volta just doesn't do it for me. Opeth I mostly like, although the cookie monster stuff leaves me cold.
And, to be honest, VGG isn't for me either. Also, this zeuhl stuff is just too bizarre. Just my opinon, I'm sure others disagree. ------------- Bring me my broadsword, and clear understanding. |
Posted By: YYZed
Date Posted: September 16 2006 at 22:25
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Not a band, but rather an album. Though I like TFTO, I still have not "gotten into" it, even though I'm thoroughly obsessed with Relayer and CTTE, its direct neighbors. Very difficult album... ------------- 
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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: September 16 2006 at 22:36
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Thanks Gravity eyelids and The miracle.I must confess i heard that they were anti-God through somebody else, it wasn't anything i myself caught in the lyrics.Am i wrong then that their lyrics are hateful and negative?I didn't really give them much of a chance i'm afraid.And for those who can't get into them,why can't you? ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: September 16 2006 at 22:58
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They are not hateful at all though can be pretty depressing/negative, but never overdo it. Maynard is actually an excellent lyricist and his lyrics outstanding poetry for the most part. And don't get scared away by titles like "Hooker With A Penis", it actually makes sence lyrically.
------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ocellatedgod" rel="nofollow - last.fm |
Posted By: greenback
Date Posted: September 16 2006 at 23:11
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I cannot think of many bands i do not get it regarding the prog metal, fusion, RIO, symphonic, art rock, canterbury, folk prog, electronic, italian and neo prog (except maybe Tool, Townsend and some KC of th 90's). on the other hand, i do not get the majority of bands in the krautrock and post rock styles. VDGG is significant if i exclude hammil's voice. Curiously, i don't get most of the krautrock bands excerpt amon duul2 and the rock'n roll bits of guru guru. ------------- [HEADPINS - LINE OF FIRE: THE RECORD HAVING THE MOST POWERFUL GUITAR SOUND IN THE WHOLE HISTORY OF MUSIC!> |
Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: September 16 2006 at 23:12
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Both excellent bands ... but not my taste
Tool, which i can tolerate more than the other band, great metal, excellent vocals, but boring for me.. i dont know exactly the reason, but i dont get them...
The Mars Volta... another excellent band with great musical arrangements, but honestly i cant stand them, i cant stand their prescence, the vocals for me are horrible, the name of the songs (yeah i know you say there are cool) but i think they are ridicolous and only because they want to sound different or innovative... also i cant stand their influence to young people and fanatics (i know DT or Radiohead influence them as well, but i like their music, here is not the case), in fact i think actually TMV is one of the most representative bands nowadays and i applause that, but simply i dont like them... and i wont ever be able to like them i think.. ------------- Follow me on twitter @memowakeman |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: September 16 2006 at 23:23
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VdGG and The Mars Volta....I have tried and tried but I just don't get it. -------------  |
Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: September 16 2006 at 23:35
This thread makes me sad. 
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Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: September 16 2006 at 23:38
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Posted By: Arsillus
Date Posted: September 16 2006 at 23:52
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Marillion (lots of neo for that matter) and perhaps VdGG- that may change though. I actually end up liking most of what I hear. |
Posted By: Taril
Date Posted: September 16 2006 at 23:54
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I'm probably going to get crucified for this... Ive tried really hard, ive listend to as much as I could find. But I cant get into ether King Crimson, nor Marillion.. I just dont know what it is, but they dont click with me. Im sorry. :( ------------- Bright Ambassadors of Morning |
Posted By: NecroManiac
Date Posted: September 16 2006 at 23:54
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Yes.... I like CTTE and I know they are talented musicians... They just haven't "clicked" with me. ------------- 
What's yer faovrite album? =^_^= |
Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: September 17 2006 at 00:03
I understand that not everyone has the same likes and preferences in music so I'm not too bothered with it and I guess its my fault since I clicked on the thread. Best wishes to everyone and I hope that everyone can appreciate every band/genre mentioned sooner or later.  -------------
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Posted By: KoS
Date Posted: September 17 2006 at 00:07
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Mars Volta can't get into 'em. The only band I just can't get into  |
Posted By: Barla
Date Posted: September 17 2006 at 00:09
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The Mars Volta for me. This band just don't click on me, they're maybe too crazy sometimes and boring IMO ... I don't get them.
(I haven't heard ANYTHING of Tool)
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Posted By: KoS
Date Posted: September 17 2006 at 00:10
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^Try getting Lateralus, it may take a while for them to click though. |
Posted By: enteredwinter
Date Posted: September 17 2006 at 00:11
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A lot of people have mentioned VDGG already, and unfortunately I must add myself to the list. I actually bought their four highest-rated albums on this site, since they seemed so highly recommended, but I just can't get into them no matter how hard I try. Also, like NecroManiac, I appreciate CTTE but otherwise can't get into Yes. I can't get past my general dislike of the vocals and lyrics. Both of those combine to make most of their stuff unlistenable to me. It's a little odd that I can't listen to Jon Anderson, since Cedric, Geddy, and other harshly grating vocalists are actually some of my favorite singers. |
Posted By: Soul Dreamer
Date Posted: September 17 2006 at 00:14
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Kayo Dot, I tried their last one, but it doesn't want to click...Then I don't get Zeuhl and Experimental Prog also. In general "random" "noises" put me off. Very experimental doesn't go well with me. (I also don't like "modern" classical music, e.g. Schoenberg or Alban Berg) ------------- To be the one who seeks so I may find .. (Metallica) |
Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: September 17 2006 at 00:28
Yep, I sincerely share your centiments
 These threads sadden me to no end.I love every band mentioned here... I guess that makes me super open minded towards prog. Butto be fair, I can't see what's attractive in punk/emo. So you can say I don't get those. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ocellatedgod" rel="nofollow - last.fm |
Posted By: Asyte2c00
Date Posted: September 17 2006 at 00:30
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Pain of Salvation |
Posted By: OpethGuitarist
Date Posted: September 17 2006 at 00:50
no band I know of is like Opeth, many bands attempt to be similar, but usually fail ------------- back from the dead, i will begin posting reviews again and musing through the forums |
Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: September 17 2006 at 00:51
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As many have said: Opeth. I can not handle the growls at all -------------  <font color=white>butts, lol[/COLOR] |
Posted By: SirPsycho388
Date Posted: September 17 2006 at 02:00
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The Flower Kings... they're supposed to be to a second calling of the 70s prog era... but i just can't get into their music. ------------- Strangers passing in the street by chance two separate glances meet and I am you and what I see is me. And do I take you by the hand and lead you through the land and help me understand the best I can |
Posted By: Abstrakt
Date Posted: September 17 2006 at 02:07
| Complex Prog metal with growls, Italian Prog, Too complex Jazz-rock. |
Posted By: Terra Australis
Date Posted: September 17 2006 at 02:17
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Neil Morse Solo. I really liked Spock's Beard but now that he is making overtly religious music I am not interested in being preached at. I don't mind more subtle lyrics but the titles are enough to put me off. Good luck to him, I am sure he is happy but I feel disinclined to listen to his new stuff. The main problem is he took Spocks Beard's interesting music with him... ------------- Allomerus. Music with progressive intent. http://allomerus.bandcamp.com" rel="nofollow - http://allomerus.bandcamp.com |
Posted By: SolariS
Date Posted: September 17 2006 at 02:25
I agree. I bought Frances the Mute, and I just don't like it that much. Another band I don't think I'll like that much is Dredg. I bought Catch Without Arms and I just find it so boring. I like it for about 3 tracks and then it all starts to sound the same to me. Oh yeah, and Cynic. I like a LOT of metal, but I they just don't stir up any emotion whatsoever. -------------  
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: September 17 2006 at 04:26
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There is no band I want to get to like but just can't. After 30+ years
of listening to prog (I started as a little kid) I think I know where
my tastes lie (and I am not afraid of extremely experimental stuff).
Some things just dont interest me, and I can usually tell whether there
is anything of interest for me in a certain music on first listening,
even if I don't immediately like it.
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Posted By: Tony Fisher
Date Posted: September 17 2006 at 04:32
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The Mars Volta - though some say the latest is almost listenable, unlike the first two. VDGG - the music can be great at times but Hamill's vocals destroy it for me. Dillinger Escape Plan - is that musc? King Crimson - I just can't see anything that good about them, despite repeated listens. I used to hate Opeth and Dream Theater but they have grown on me. I actually really like Opeth (despite the growls) and I can apppreciate DT's musical prowess despite their composition skills being rather limited. |
Posted By: Mr. Sanchez
Date Posted: September 17 2006 at 04:33
I agree with you on this one. I was quite dissapointed to hear that Morse had left SB. I figured I ought to see why he left the band, to see what he was doing by himself that he couldn't do with SB. When I got '?' I immediately saw why he left the band.. I think that the music is alright, but I can't get into the lyrics, at all. ------------- It's Calling Me Back To My Home. |
Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: September 17 2006 at 05:25
| I'm unsure wheter I will ever get into Tool. I want to, but I haven't managed to do it yet. I have a hard time getting into Pain of Salvation aswell. However, I dislike their style too much to bother listening to Be as many times as I ought to. They get on my nerves, and I'm quite happy not getting them anyways. |
Posted By: Radar Love
Date Posted: September 17 2006 at 06:09
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Radiohead-I like some of The Bends but they mostly leave me feeling depressed. Thom Yorke sings like he's about to commit suicide and is not the reason why I enjoy listening to music.
Same goes with VDGG and Peter Hammill.
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Posted By: PaperDuck
Date Posted: September 17 2006 at 06:27
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If you count Radiohead as prog, definitely them. Ouch.
Nor Jefferson Airplane - I just couldn't do it. Plus any band with a female main vocalist. I don't know what it is - it certainly isn't the range, I'm a huge Yes fan - but something about them makes me cringe, in every genre except, oddly enough, musicals. |
Posted By: glass house
Date Posted: September 17 2006 at 06:45
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.I say fear, because its not like you dont have any interest in getting into it, you do, you want to...but somehow you cant. This music, this band you want to get into and cant must have something for you to want to understand and appretiate, something that atracts you
A band called Yes, they are icons of the genre I like, so I should be able to get into them. Tried many times, the music just doesn't do it for me. Something the whole music sounds to me, too happy. I have giving up on them.
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Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: September 17 2006 at 06:47
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From Classics - YES.I can listen to them,I can GET their music,but there's no CLICK at all.I guess I just don't like them.
GG and VDGG.I like some songs from them,but I would never regard them as my fave bands. From Genres - RIO/Avant,Krautrock,Indo/Raga,Jazz/Fusion.Just NOT MY KIND OF MUSIC. I like some albums from these genres(besides,I have no problems with Post-Rock AT ALL,for example),but generally I prefer Symphonic,Modern(TOOL,OPETH,TMV,PORCUPINE TREE etc) and Neo prog. |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: September 17 2006 at 06:49
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So you said No to YES, Tony ..
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Posted By: glass house
Date Posted: September 17 2006 at 06:54
Yes I did, didn't I. 
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Posted By: MajesterX
Date Posted: September 17 2006 at 09:26
nag nag nag nag nag. Just answer the question! I personally can never get into the Italian prog. It's just not for me I guess. ------------- 
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Posted By: R_DeNIRO
Date Posted: September 17 2006 at 09:26
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Yes ------------- We were always be much human than we whish to be. |
Posted By: Baza
Date Posted: September 17 2006 at 10:34
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Frank Zappa and other RIO/avant-rock, maybe someday I will get into it...
Mahavishnu and other jazz/rock fusion - I don't like jazz at all.
Canterbury, except couple of albums (In my signature).
Prog metal - not difficult to get into, I just can't stand the heavy distortion.
Neo prog - not proggy enough, I don't enjoy it (except the Script).
Flower Kings, Spock's Beard, etc. - well, it is also basically neo-prog.
I had a difficult time getting used to VDGG, but now I like them.
For some reason I liked Magma (MDK) at the first spin.
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Posted By: eugene
Date Posted: September 17 2006 at 10:38
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Can, Faust, Tipographica, Czukay, John Zorn (but only when he is teaming up with other great musicians such as Fred Frith, for instance, to get on nerves of the audience by making noisy, hardly bearable and almost unlistenable to sounds). ------------- carefulwiththataxe |
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: September 17 2006 at 10:44
| I think most of the people here will guess which band I'll probably never get into... It starts with Dream and ends with Theater. I've tried them, have six albums by them (the latest I bought was SFAM, just last week), but I have to admit my mind just blacks out halfway through any album but Images and Words. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: September 17 2006 at 10:53
hahahhaha oh how true ..... you are better than me ...1 album and multiple samples did nothing for me.... and probably won't get another.... I did try though.. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Nanook
Date Posted: September 17 2006 at 11:57
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To take this further, I've been following progressive rock since the beginning. Until I found this site, I had never even heard of VDGG, as a band that is.
Once I heard about, and listened to some of their stuff, I was not impressed. Odd, though, that I never heard of them for over 30 years. I'm thankful I stumbled across Prog Archives, I've heard many bands that I hadn't before. ------------- Bring me my broadsword, and clear understanding. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: September 17 2006 at 12:19
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When I first saw this topic I was going to write that while there are some bands (and Prog subgenres on the whole) that I don't care for, I don't "fear" not getting into any of them, but I dug a little deeper in my all-too psychotic psyche, and realised that in fact I wish I could enjoy all of the music listed at this site. I don't mean that I wish that all the music conformed to my current aural tastes (which tastes pretty waxy by the way), but that I could learn to appreciate all of the music that my fellow progheads enjoy. The "so-called Prog" is eclectic, it fuses styles and bends/ distorts them, covers huge musical territory, and so it tends to attract those with eclectic tastes -- it's a non-genre in a sense (ungeneric but a subgenre of rock music utilising different styles/ attitudes). I love Prog, I tend tolove that eclectic mix of influences you find in the music (like GG's mixing of troubadour style to hard rock to jazz), and I wished to be a Prog enthusiast who could appreciate it all. However, I tend to have a problem when I hear a lot of pop, obvious AOR sounding music, New Wave, Emo, some bluesy stuff, grungy stuff, punk, and death metal influences. I really liked Opeth's music until the singing started... The growling, especially, doesn't not work for me, and damn I have tried because I recognise the instrumental talent. The Mars Volta: well I do like some of their earlier stuff, but I really tried to like Amputechture and largely failed. The Flower Kings and Spock's beard just doesn't work for me (especially the singing). UK, tried, quite like some of their stuff, but doesn't do it for me either. Marillion -- first album is okay, and I don't mind their music, but I can't get excited about it (don't much care for either singer and the music seems to lack the complexity of much Prog). The same goes for most Neo-Prog (although I have found exceptions -- borderline Neo-Prog). Prog Metal: I like, really like, some of the music, but on the whole it leaves me cold. Porcupine Tree: some I like... It's the Emo influenced Prog that particularly turns me off (maybe because I'm emotionally reserved -- in public anyway -- and I find it a bit embarrassing -- I was trained to keep a stiff-upper lip, although in forums I feel comfortable showing more emotion though - as I wish to communicate my enthusiasms in an apparently heartfelt way -- also part of having an overblown online persona). The more "complex" the music is considered to be (especially harmonically), the more I usually like it. One thing, I was raised on Western Art Music (read 'classical as a general style rather than a specific period), but then found a love of jazz (for the rythyms and percussion particularly), so I'm more likely to appreciate certain Prog-pieces over others -- ones with strong classical and jazz influences. One reason i really want to like all of the music is for discussion-sake. I feel passionate about music, I truly see it as the highest form of art and although I may keep a stiff-upper lip in public, it moves me deeply. Tallis, ahhh, pure bliss. I feel inclined to discuss music I don't like as well as that I do like, but I understand what it's like when you love something and another dismisses it as crap -- deflating, and can take away the musical pleasure. My wife doesn't like the music I like and is critical of it. Played her Bacamarte and she said the singer sounded nasally/ whiny; then asked me to turn it down. It's so nice to share what you're enthusiastic about... I wish I liked it all, at least because I, also, tend to voice my criticisms of certain music and that can be deflating for others. Especially in RL, where I'm called on by friends to discuss music I don't care for on a regular basis... I usually just say "interesting." Of course in the forums I could stay silent about the music I don't like, but I'm interested in exploring why we like or don't like something, and as it's a matter of taste (mostly acquired taste largely due to what we've been exposed to) I don't mind if another doesn't like the same music I do at this board (unlike in my personal life, my freinds and acqaintances, cause I want to share it with others). Still, I wish I could like it all so that I could share in all of the board members enthusiasm. So I try. The more I like, the happier I'll be. Incidentally, I was called on to share my thoughts on a song by a Green Dayish clone, at another board by a person who was very enthusiastic about a certain song. Listened several times to try to say something enthusiastic about the music, but failed -- so I have written nothing as yet. I shouldn't feel too bad, as no one has responded to my Prog recommendations (actually, I did turn someone onto Camel there a year ago). |
Posted By: Evans
Date Posted: September 17 2006 at 13:05
I ust wanted to say that that post would make my "desert island posts"-list. As for bands i fear not getting into... probably Mahavishnu Orchestra, as i have at times (especially on the song "one word") seen how... "fun" it can be to listen to such unharmonic and chaotic music, but still there are some parts that just burn my ears off.. |
Posted By: CrazyDiamond
Date Posted: September 17 2006 at 13:55
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Posted By: MadcapLaughs84
Date Posted: September 17 2006 at 17:36
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I think Opeth, mostly the hard songs, are too heavy for my spacial ears, I admire Mikael as a singer, just for the fact of his variable voice. But well sometimes gutural voices are so annoying. ------------- 
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Posted By: The Wizard
Date Posted: September 17 2006 at 17:38
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Spacemen 3 -------------  
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Posted By: rupert
Date Posted: September 23 2006 at 13:50
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Pink Floyd. I fear I'll never get into Pink Floyd. I'll even become a YES-fan before that. And I fear I won't. ------------- ...I'm a musician/singer/songwriter, visit me on www.reverbnation.com/rupertlenz and there you can choose from 125 recordings you can listen to ( for free ) if you're not limited to prog-rock ! |
Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: September 23 2006 at 13:52
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VDGG, Mars Volta, Gentle Giant, and ELP. ------------- |
Posted By: Melomaniac
Date Posted: September 24 2006 at 10:31
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I bought Godbluff by VDGG, and I have a hard time with their style, and with Hamill's vocals... Any album by VDGG you guys recommend? ------------- "One likes to believe in the freedom of Music" - Neil Peart, The Spirit of Radio |
Posted By: Asyte2c00
Date Posted: September 24 2006 at 10:34
H to He, Who Am the Only One Its their most accessible album "Killer" and "House with No Door" are amazing songs. VDGG is simply brilliant.
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Posted By: Melomaniac
Date Posted: September 24 2006 at 10:38
Thanks, I'll give it a shot. ------------- "One likes to believe in the freedom of Music" - Neil Peart, The Spirit of Radio |
Posted By: Fassbinder
Date Posted: September 24 2006 at 10:52
That's right. And, as already was said in another thread, I would recommend also The Least We Can Do Is Wave To Each Other (more like H To He, Who Am The Only One) and Still Life (more like Godbluff). But, overall, Van der Graaf Generator is the group which is very hard to get into... However, once you like it, you (probably) love it forever...
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Posted By: Mlaen
Date Posted: September 24 2006 at 11:32
ELP 
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Posted By: Negru Voda
Date Posted: September 24 2006 at 13:57
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Magma. I ..... just.... can't..... get into it. The songs start out nicely but then they repeat the same verse 100 times and that repetition is driving me nuts! especially since it's in a gibberish language. And Mars Volta. They're just pop-punk to me. I don't see (or rather hear) any progressive elements in their music.  |
Posted By: Negru Voda
Date Posted: September 24 2006 at 14:00
I had problems with Hammil's vocals aswell. Whenever he started singing I felt like punching my speakers  But I persevered and I now I find his voice to be incredible, among the finest in prog. There's no guaranteeing (sp?) that you'll get into the band, it's definetely an aquired taste and it' a lot like the lottery: there's a chance you'll win, and there's a chance you'll lose..... |
Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: September 24 2006 at 14:04
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Why should you wnt to get into a band.
If it doesn't sound right on first listening I leave it alone for a while, adn try again later, just in case I missed it the first time, if than I still can't find anything worthwhile I will simple not listen to them anymore. If you really want too you can make yourself believe you like something, but in the end your only bore yourself.
so don't try to hard to like something, just focus on what you like, every minute wasted on listening something you don't like is a minute lost forever. ------------- I'm always almost unlucky _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Id5ZcnjXSZaSMFMC Id5LM2q2jfqz3YxT |
Posted By: limeyrob
Date Posted: September 24 2006 at 14:48
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Rush Oh Dear |
Posted By: limeyrob
Date Posted: September 24 2006 at 14:50
| Oh and Anglagard - Just don't seem to get it |
Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: September 25 2006 at 00:47
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i cant really get into progessive disco, idk, maybe it's just me... ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm 
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Posted By: transend
Date Posted: September 25 2006 at 01:53
I could not agree more with you, Spocks lost something and his solo stuff makes me cringe, I gave up on him, just cant stand another sixty mins of the same "jesus this, god that" with Mike Portnoy drumming. I love DT but he is wasted w/Morse. |
Posted By: transend
Date Posted: September 25 2006 at 01:55
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AS for bands, I cant get into....a few..
Radiohead, do not too much for me, though I do like the song 'Airbag' alot! Tool - likely coz I love synths, so that maybe the issue there. Opeth - same as most other people, I cant stand his vocals, if all their albums were like 'Damnation' I would be a big fan. |
Posted By: tardis
Date Posted: September 25 2006 at 02:05
| I generally don't have this problem, however I do have difficulty getting into Tool. |
Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: September 25 2006 at 09:54
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It's strange isn't it... I just can't get into Opeth at all, and I made a concerted effort with Ghost Reveries, because my Brother In Law is so heavily into it. I sold my copy in the end... On the other hand, I genuinely think Tool's Lateralus is in the top 5 prog metal albums of this century... I found it courtesy of PA, and it spent the entire of last summer going round and round in the car CD player!! Why?? I can't really explain! ------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson |
Posted By: rainbow111
Date Posted: September 25 2006 at 11:27
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Whitesnake...I donno, I mean I like David Coverdale, its just..I hate hair metal...
oh and Jethro Tull...I don't like the vocals too much (yeah I know, I'm nuts). ------------- It's got to be slow Taking love the only way It's got to just flow Making love and taking time to let it grow |
Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: September 25 2006 at 13:25
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Tool, Spock's Beard, Eloy
Mahavishnu Orchestra and ELP were tough for a while, but they eventually clicked for me after repeated listens. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm
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Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: September 25 2006 at 14:33
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Genesis... ------------- "Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent." Charles Bukowski |
Posted By: oldebag
Date Posted: September 25 2006 at 14:54
Oh, my dears... I am relieved this thread is open!There is "something" about Yes that irritates the .....out of me! there ! I said it! At last the burden is lifted..... ! of course ,it could be associations of the times( one in particular comes to mind  ) I guess I really need melodic prog in any form. I'm not like you , perhaps........my ears are a direct link to my heart............but you still all have the biggest of hearts!! later.....
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: September 25 2006 at 14:55
Hah! 3 of my fave bands... keep percevering, darkshade!!
------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: September 25 2006 at 14:59
Fannydangle!
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