Close to the Edge--this album suck or what?
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Topic: Close to the Edge--this album suck or what?
Posted By: The Whistler
Subject: Close to the Edge--this album suck or what?
Date Posted: September 28 2006 at 03:27
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Ha, ha! Only kidding of course...gulp. Why aren't you laughing?
Seriously now, I'd be a fool to not enjoy sections of this. But why is this so highly regarded? I want to know! To me, it seemed like a bit of a bore; sort of a rehashing of some ideas from The (superior) Yes Album; I swear, I hear Yours Is No Disgrace in the Siberian Khatru, A Venture in Close to the Edge and Your Move in And You and I. But maybe that's just me... Opines? ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |
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Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: September 28 2006 at 03:31
| I think there are enough reviews on the site to tell you why people like this album so much. |
Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: September 28 2006 at 03:52
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Crap there's lotsa reviews...took my ole PC a bit to load 'em.
Er, they mostly say that the songs are "good," "great," or "masterpieces." Oh, and they say that they are complex and alternate betwen loud and quiet. Judging a nineteen minute song on how loud it is? Sounds like something I'd do... ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |
Posted By: Dragon Phoenix
Date Posted: September 28 2006 at 04:02
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Seriously - how often have you played it? It took me at least ten spins
before I started to recognise it for the masterpiece it is.
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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: September 28 2006 at 04:08
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...I dunno. I had it a few days, so maybe five or six times? I'll keep at it till the batteries in my CD player die. ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: September 28 2006 at 04:17
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If I could just point something out, this is at least the third thread I've seen in recent times about not liking CttE. Look at this one, for instance: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=26780&KW=CTTE - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=26780&KW=CTTE That said, I've got to admit I don't understand the point of these discussions. I don't like "Foxtrot", for instance, but I wouldn't dream to open a thread about it. Perhaps it's just me, though... |
Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: September 28 2006 at 04:19
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Nah, I'm probably being a butt here. It's just that this one is always jockeying with Selling England for number one, and I didn't realize that when I got them both to listen to in weekly succession, and Selling just seemed so much, er, better from the get go than Close. In my (frequently) humbled opinion, of course. Should this be closed? You're the mod... ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |
Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: September 28 2006 at 04:21
 !!!!!well, all I can say, is that I sense danger within this subject; just to recal, people loving Ctte don't usual stand people hating Ctte; and the accent on "suck" rather than "dislike" is a leak gas, waiting just for the match...  Also, I think I've had enough of "who loves/hates Ctte" for one life. ------------- 
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Ghost Rider wrote:Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: September 28 2006 at 04:23
Er, that might have been part of my goal. Heh. ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |
Posted By: R o V e R
Date Posted: September 28 2006 at 04:31
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there is nice theme music
if you notice it you will love it its like four notes from"Wish you were here" that start "Shine on you crazy diomand" folks you know what i'm saying |
Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: September 28 2006 at 04:32
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No, but I'm a gonna listen real good. 'Cept that my batteries did run out... ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |
Posted By: R o V e R
Date Posted: September 28 2006 at 04:38
i'll kill you if the batteries run out |
Posted By: mystic fred
Date Posted: September 28 2006 at 04:39
darling..........how could you!!!
   the reason CTTE is so highly regarded is because it is a good album which has STOOD THE TEST OF TIME.......like FOXTROT!!!!
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Posted By: R o V e R
Date Posted: September 28 2006 at 04:55
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Foxtrot is my favourite album ,
but please dont compare it with "Close to the Edge" please |
Posted By: 2112
Date Posted: September 28 2006 at 07:20
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i love it...partly because And You and I is probably my fav yes song but for a three song album its awsome, it doesn't beat tales from topographic Oceans though i love that album! ------------- 
I can't wait to share this new wonder...The people will all see its light! |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: September 28 2006 at 08:16
There will also be reviews from people who view the album as you do, nothing spectacular, or worse yet hate it.
No, I don't see much point in this either. Sometimes in an existing thread about a band or album I'll express my dislike, but even rarely then. If part of the reason you're asking about the "masterpiece" status of Close to the Edge is because it's rated #1 on the site, be aware that a lot of "foul play", viz. rating monkey-business from fanboys have skewed things so badly that one shouldn't take that list (at least the top of it) seriously at all. Suffice it to say that it's a consensus masterpiece on this site, but not without its detractors, as you will find on pretty much every album. |
Posted By: Fassbinder
Date Posted: September 28 2006 at 13:20
At least, someone else who also doesn't like Foxtrot...
We don't have to open a thread, but there's always an option to join the already existing one...
 Seriously, I would like to know why people like or (much more actual to me) dislike it. I tried it at least ten times, and still I fail to find there any interest (and that with other Genesis (Gabriel era) albums which I find quite interesting...)
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: September 28 2006 at 13:29
I don't dislike it, I guess, but I fail to see what the big deal is. For me Selling England is far superior. But since I've only recently started to listen to Genesis in earnest, perhaps I'm not the best qualified to make an assessment. |
Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: September 28 2006 at 14:13
The fisr time I heard it I knew it was something special...and then again, I had never heard a 20 minutes song before...this was my first...the best introduction I think ------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?" 
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Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: September 28 2006 at 14:37
| See my response in the other thread on this topic, aswell as my response in the "Are Pink Floyd Boring" (or something like that) poll. You might also want to look up a poll I made a while ago, CttE vs The Yes Album, as it also deals with this issue. |
Posted By: glass house
Date Posted: September 28 2006 at 14:56
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Whistler : maybe the title or response you made set people on the wrong foot. Should have started with a cliche like, I can't get into CTTE, or it hasn't clicked yet!
Because of the high rating I played the album many times, simply don't like it, does not do anything for me. It is just mine opinion.
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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: October 04 2006 at 02:46
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Sorry lads, I'm a progressive failure...I've banged my head against this album of a week now, and I just can't see it as "great." I don't even see it as particulalry good. I mean, if I'd have to give it an out of 5 stars rating, I'd say 3/5. It's sort of like Led Zep's Physical Graffeti (sic?); some really good tunes, but all played faaaaaaaar longer than they could sustain. And that even goes for the Siberian Khatru. And that almost rocked, but still came out longish and therefore boringish. And don't tell me I just don't like quiet atmosphere! The Preacher and the Teacher (from And You and I) started with a really cool folkish acoustic shuffle... ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: October 04 2006 at 03:20
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Whistler, I respect your tenacity and honesty. However, the feelings you're expressing on 'Foxtrot' and 'CttE' sound like many of us when we were sixteen. That's not say you have immature taste, just that it does take years, sometimes decades before one starts to appreciate these stellar works. On the other hand, I know many Tull fans who still couldn't care less about the G boys, so you do have company. And Physical Graffiti is a great album, but again, one that takes some seasoning before it's seen as more than merely Zep's 6th album.
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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: October 04 2006 at 03:25
...Que? Did I give the impression I did not like Genesis? Sorry if that's so--I happen to believe that Genesis was a better prog group than Tull...er, if you caught them on the right day of the week. ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: October 04 2006 at 08:35
It's not compulsory to like CTTE and it doesn't make you a failure if you don't. Personally I love it, but then I tend to agree with someone who recently said Thick As A Brick went downhill after the first 5 minutes.
Not sure about Physical Graffiti though, I can only think of three songs on it that I'd call "long" - In my time of dying, Kashmir and In the Light.
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Posted By: Selkie
Date Posted: October 04 2006 at 15:12
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I think the Genesis vs Yes split boils down to people's personal taste in music - many people seem to have a strong preference for one or the other.
I really enjoy both, but for substantially different reasons. |
Posted By: jalas
Date Posted: October 10 2006 at 13:03
| It's all about childhood memories. I may be only 18, but My dad would expose us to Close to the Edge enough for it to become part of my life. The same happens to many other people. Besides, I don't remember hearing any of the old Genesis on the radio so people are not as exposed as they should. You are not a Progressive Rock failure. you just have a different perspective than the rest of us Close to the Edge fans. My dad insists that Led Zeppelin is the greatest and when I disagree, He gets angry at me because Led Zeppelin bring back memories to him that I would not understand. |