Yes or Genesis
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Topic: Yes or Genesis
Posted By: Tenth Chaffinch
Subject: Yes or Genesis
Date Posted: October 31 2006 at 13:49
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I'm simply curious to find out if people prefer Yes to Genesis. I respect both bands, both have their shining moments, virtuosic musicians, and great concepts, but I feel that Yes is a joke when compared to old-school Genesis. ------------- www.myspace.com/fatherunderground |
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: October 31 2006 at 14:01
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I like Genesis more, but Yes is not a joke in comparison with anybody.
This is more a matter of taste than a matter of musical quality and denying the qualifications of Yes is denying Progressive Rock.
The only aspect I never could get into is Jon's voice.
Iván ------------- 
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Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: October 31 2006 at 14:11
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Genesis, easily. I love Yes too, though I don't find them as good as Genesis. ------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! |
Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: October 31 2006 at 14:19
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Yes, but Genesis is not that far behind...its just...Gates of delirium, Close to the edge, The Yes album, Awaken...man!!!
------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?" 
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Posted By: aspinosa
Date Posted: October 31 2006 at 14:46
| I can´t vote, I love both equally, genesis was my first love with selling england by the pound, and recentely I discovered close to the ege. Undoubtely both are the best bands in this website. |
Posted By: fuxi
Date Posted: October 31 2006 at 14:48
If either of these bands is a JOKE, surely it will be old-school Genesis? Think of 'Harold the Barrel', 'Willow Farm', 'The Battle of Epping Forest' etc. 
Seriously  I don't see how you can like one but not the other. I never had a problem with Jon's voice - I myself used to sing like that! 
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Posted By: Abstrakt
Date Posted: October 31 2006 at 14:49
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I prefer yes. Genesis is O.K, but they never "clicked" for me. I find them a bit boring at times, actually. |
Posted By: wandererfromtx
Date Posted: October 31 2006 at 14:51
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Both bands are great, I have trouble choosing between the two of them. But I have seen Yes live more times, so they get the nod.A joke - NEVER ------------- Cloud Hidden Whereabouts Unknown |
Posted By: blindtoad
Date Posted: October 31 2006 at 14:54
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Yes but just because it fits more in my taste... the 2 of them are egal (IMHO) otherwise! ------------- quelqu'un pour un jam? blindtoad = Poor english... |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: October 31 2006 at 15:01
Of course you can, taste knows no limits, hey I don't like most King Crimson.
But not liking them doesn't allow me to say King Crmson is a joke. Yes and Genesis musicians are skilled, they wrote excellent music (Well, excellent is also a subjective term) you can like one more than the other or even hate one of them, but calling Bruford, Collins (Drummer), Wakeman, Banks, Howe, Hackett, Gabriel, Anderson, Squire or Rutherford a joke well....
 BTW: If your voice is like Jon's, try to learn some instrument
 Iván -------------
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fuxi wrote:Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: October 31 2006 at 15:14
He plays guitar too. 
Genesis is my first prog love, but honestly both bands are awesome. 
All hail the kings of prog! 
------------- a.k.a. H.T. http://riekels.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow - http://riekels.wordpress.com |
Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: October 31 2006 at 15:21
| Now: Genesis. A month ago: Yes. Voted for the former. |
Posted By: Father Tiresias
Date Posted: October 31 2006 at 15:51
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It's just a matter of taste. I'd choose Genesis, I like them more than Yes. but those bands are simply excellent. By the way how can you say "Awaken", "Gates of Delirium", "Tales..." are a joke??!!! I just can't uderstand. |
Posted By: Arsillus
Date Posted: October 31 2006 at 15:55
| I love both bands a lot, but who I like more depends on how I feel at any given moment. |
Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: October 31 2006 at 15:57
wow, of all the flaming arguments possibilities... Genesis are better, brighter, more brilliant, more beautiful. Of course, not to believe Yes are loose by my liking. During their classic period, they were as astonishing as any proclaimed and value classic name of the progressive rock movement. Just that...I have Floyd, Genesis, Crimson and Jethro ahead. ------------- 
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Posted By: video vertigo
Date Posted: October 31 2006 at 16:19
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yes had more good albums than genesis, genesis has more great albums than yes ------------- "The rock and roll business is pretty absurd, but the world of serious music is much worse." - Zappa |
Posted By: Sasquamo
Date Posted: October 31 2006 at 16:21
That's where Genesis wins it for me. |
Posted By: Tenth Chaffinch
Date Posted: October 31 2006 at 16:22
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I just can't for the life of me find any interest in Yes. I don't know why, I can get deep into Camel, Genesis, VDGG, I can even go ape sh*t over some good old Magma, but Yes never connected with me. I don't like Jon Anderson musically, his vocals, his lyrics, anything really (love Chris Squire's playing though). It's just a taste thing. ------------- www.myspace.com/fatherunderground |
Posted By: Ounamahl
Date Posted: October 31 2006 at 16:25
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Dream Theater! =) Genesis, though Yes is close. ps. I hope everyone got that DT joke ------------- This is an electrified fairytale |
Posted By: the icon of sin
Date Posted: October 31 2006 at 17:25
| Musically, Yes intrest me much more, and music as opposed to words is where my loyalties lie. |
Posted By: Radar Love
Date Posted: October 31 2006 at 17:32
I feel the opposite. Genesis were never a match for Yes in the 70's!
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Posted By: cuncuna
Date Posted: October 31 2006 at 17:38
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Genesis. No song can beat "The return of the giant hogweed". And no guitarist is a match for mr. Hackett; he is the perfect mixture of pure techniques and pure imagination. He is beautiful at the acoustic guitar, and a mutant on electric. ------------- ¡Beware of the Bee! |
Posted By: peter_gabriel
Date Posted: October 31 2006 at 17:47
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Genesis with Foxtrot Yes with Tales from topographic oceans Everyone happy |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: October 31 2006 at 17:55
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Genesis, Yes never really clicked for me.
------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005 
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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: October 31 2006 at 17:57
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I prefer Genesis.
------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ocellatedgod" rel="nofollow - last.fm |
Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: October 31 2006 at 17:59
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Yes, although i own a lot more yes than genesis, yes might be my favorite symph band -------------  <font color=white>butts, lol[/COLOR] |
Posted By: Tommy
Date Posted: October 31 2006 at 18:02
| Yes for me. I remember circa 76/77 when Genesis were said to be Yes wannabes. Besides, although I like some of Genesis they were too much of a keyboard driven band, whereas Yes had 5 musical maestros. |
Posted By: Progressive??
Date Posted: October 31 2006 at 19:06
same here. In fact, I think Genesis is behind several other bands.
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Posted By: Asyte2c00
Date Posted: October 31 2006 at 19:18
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Genesis. The original lineup, meaning with Hackett not Phillips, was simply magic. Impeccable It was like they had sixth member with them called Magic. |
Posted By: Pnoom!
Date Posted: October 31 2006 at 19:24
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Genesis produced good music in addition to having good musicians...
And they could write lyrics... |
Posted By: enteredwinter
Date Posted: October 31 2006 at 20:36
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Genesis. Both bands deserve all the respect they get, but Yes's vocals and lyrics are sub-par compared to Genesis, IMO. I'd listen to Gabriel over Anderson any day if forced to choose, even though I actually listen to both pretty frequently. |
Posted By: White Shadow
Date Posted: October 31 2006 at 20:49
| To say that Yes is a joke is not fair at all. They're a very fine band and maybe my second favorite. However, the number one spot happens to belong to Genesis and it really doesn't matter who they're up against (in my heart at least). But, Yes is amazing in their own right. Definatley deserve to be considered right next to Genesis. |
Posted By: Sasquamo
Date Posted: October 31 2006 at 21:09
| I wonder how many people that voted for Yes would have voted for Genesis had they not been outraged by the author calling Yes a joke. |
Posted By: yesfan88
Date Posted: October 31 2006 at 22:02
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Right now I'll say Genesis because I just bought Foxtrot, but on another day it could be Yes. I think I prefer Yes in the summer and Genesis in the winter.
Seriously, I listen to different stuff depending on the weather. ------------- "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"- Evelyn Beatrice Hall |
Posted By: Arrrghus
Date Posted: October 31 2006 at 22:04
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Genesis!!!! Trespass pwns!!!!!
(And so does NC, SEBTP, Foxtrot)
I like Yes, but Genesis is much better lyrically, and much more fun and ranged in emotions than Yes. ------------- 
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Posted By: Soul Dreamer
Date Posted: October 31 2006 at 22:10
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Yes, but there's not much in it. Both icons of prog. Both belong to the best bands ever to have appeared on the surface of this planet. ------------- To be the one who seeks so I may find .. (Metallica) |
Posted By: Camelfan
Date Posted: October 31 2006 at 22:17
| Used to prefer Yes, they used to be behind Camel as my favorite prog band but there is something that annoys me sometimes about their songs nowadays (maybe too over the top?) and I'm usually in the mood for Genesis more often. And I don't get what is so great about The Yes Album, I think its rather mediocre. |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: October 31 2006 at 23:42
By who?????
If there are two bands with a radically oppoosite approach to music are Genesis and Yes, they were always different.
There's simply no relation between them to say that Genesis were Yes wannabes. Iván -------------
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Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: November 01 2006 at 00:07
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Yes is an easy choice for me. ------------- |
Posted By: Fassbinder
Date Posted: November 01 2006 at 01:12
| Both bands aren't amongst my favourites; Yes is, probably, just outside the first ten, Genesis is far, far behind. I find many other bands much more interesting. Choosing one out of the two, however, the answer is "Yes, easily". I just enjoy them more than Genesis. |
Posted By: Enserune_Sparks
Date Posted: November 01 2006 at 01:40
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i prefer YES
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Posted By: Phil
Date Posted: November 01 2006 at 02:54
| Yes! |
Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: November 01 2006 at 03:06
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Phil Collins all the way!
Er, I mean, Peter Gabriel all the way! ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |
Posted By: peter_gabriel
Date Posted: November 01 2006 at 14:00
| Yes is winning by far... I would like to say Yes is more accesible than genesis... |
Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: November 01 2006 at 14:16
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But in the end, VdGG are better than both combined!
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Posted By: epifreak
Date Posted: November 01 2006 at 14:30
| Hmm...my stock response doesn't seem to work here. Ordinarily, when given a choice between two equal things, not presented in a yes or no question, I'll simply answer "yes". b*****ds stole my stock lack of a response 30 years before I thought it up. |
Posted By: chessman
Date Posted: November 01 2006 at 17:13
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Genesis have one thing that many other bands lack, and that is strong, consistent songwriting ability. And a unique atmosphere. Personally, I can't think of another band who could match them in that department. They could move effortlessly through comedy, poignancy, satire, and almost medieval story telling. I also love Yes, by the way, and put them in my top five, at their best. Albums like Fragile, GFTO and Relayer are all wonderful things, with great epics and superb musicianship.
But, for me, they can't match the songwriting of Genesis.
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Posted By: Stefanovic
Date Posted: November 01 2006 at 17:19
an easy one... 
on one hand you have the kings of w**kery (Yes) on the other the gods of prog...
GENESIS IT IS !!!
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: November 02 2006 at 02:53
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They are very close in my affections.As far as their 'classic' albums are concerned there is little to chose between them.
5 star studio albums:
Yes
Fragile
Close To The Edge
Going For The One
Genesis
Foxtrot
Selling England by the pound
A Trick Of The Tail
4 star studio albums
Yes
The Yes Album
Relayer
Tormato
Talk
Genesis
Lamb Lies Down On Broadway
Wind And Wuthering
And Then There Were Three
Duke
I'm not a fan of either bands first 2 official albums.They both put out a decent live album each and both bands suffered from taking an overtly commerial approach later on.
Genesis have more interesting lyrics and put images in my head like no other band.Yes were more inventive musically and had a broader sound.
I declare a draw!
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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: November 02 2006 at 03:08
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And of course, the entire classic Yes and Genesis catalogue can't hold a candle to any single Tull song (assuming Jeffrey's on base). ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |
Posted By: martinprog77
Date Posted: November 02 2006 at 03:29
------------- Nothing can last there are no second chances. Never give a day away. Always live for today. |
Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: November 02 2006 at 04:43
I'd say ELP are worse. Much Prog Metal and fusion can get extremely w**ky aswell at times. |
Posted By: Tristan Mulders
Date Posted: November 02 2006 at 06:15
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Genesis!!! I simply can't stand Anderson  ------------- Interested in my reviews? You can find them http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=784 - HERE "...He will search until He's found a Way to take the Days..." |
Posted By: Neil
Date Posted: November 02 2006 at 06:24
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I prefer Genesis but they're both good. ------------- When people get lost in thought it's often because it's unfamiliar territory. |
Posted By: Wotgorilla
Date Posted: November 02 2006 at 07:39
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Today Yes, but tomorrow I could say Genesis. It's like asking me, who do I love more, my wife or 20 month old daughter?
------------- "Thru the darkest age we can surely fly, thru the darkest age with the Fist of Fire" |
Posted By: Stefanovic
Date Posted: November 02 2006 at 07:45
Agreed, ELP are way worse than Yes... They're the Emperors of w**kery where Yes are just kings...
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Posted By: Tenth Chaffinch
Date Posted: November 02 2006 at 12:11
I'll drink to that my friend. Although I find VdGG inferior to Genesis but superior to Yes
1. Camel
2. Genesis
3. King Crimson
4. Pink Floyd
5. Gentle Giant
6. Henry Cow
7. National Health
8. Soft Machine
9. Hatfield and the North
10. Van Der Graaf Generator ------------- www.myspace.com/fatherunderground |
Posted By: Tommy
Date Posted: November 02 2006 at 16:47
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YES wins!
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Posted By: Stefanovic
Date Posted: November 02 2006 at 16:48
YES wins... 
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Posted By: Progger
Date Posted: November 02 2006 at 16:57
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YES wins..............it was always a forgone conclusion
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Posted By: Norbert
Date Posted: November 03 2006 at 08:00
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Yes for me.
Both are brilliant.
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Posted By: bjl 2003
Date Posted: November 03 2006 at 09:26
| These are my two favourite bands of all time, both of whom have produced brilliant pieces of music at various stages in their careers, and both of whose albums will always remain firmly at the centre of my album collection. If I had to choose between them, though, I wouldn't have to think too long about it : YES, without question, for their musicianship, for Anderson's amazing voice, and above all for their ability to express emotion in its purest form that surpasses even (and this is really saying something !) even what Genesis were able to produce. Close to the Edge remains, for me, the whole progressive movement's ultimate achievement. Mind you, my number 2 album of all time would be Selling England ... Whichever one you choose, though (and each of us will have his/her own individual preference), I think most of us would agree that these are probably the two best exponents of progressive music in general. |
Posted By: Tyrant
Date Posted: November 03 2006 at 09:58
Well put, although I must say that if one were to choose only two exponents of progressive music, the competition is so hard that it is not given that it would be these two who would win.
Personally I prefer Genesis to Yes, at least if we're talking about Genesis in the Peter Gabriel-era. Even though Yes has produced some of prog rock's most memorable moments, especcially on Close To The Edge and Relayer, Genesis represents something more unique and profound in my opinion. Peter Gabriel's theatrical approach really sets Genesis apart from anything else in music (even though they weren't the only theatrical rock band).
If I was to pick an exponent number two, after Genesis, it would either be King Crimson (for starting the whole progressive movement and being able to keep a high quality standard for 5 decades) or Van Der Graaf Generator (for matching Gabriel's theatricality, although in a much darker fashion).
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Posted By: yarstruly
Date Posted: November 03 2006 at 14:37
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 03 2006 at 17:25
| Genesis these days |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: November 03 2006 at 17:33
...which makes The Mars Volta 'heirs apparent'
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Posted By: stewe
Date Posted: November 04 2006 at 14:34
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Of course Yes for me, they bring me more emotions, experiences, colours and they have written more brilliant stuff through the years. Genesis, though I like them lot, will always look from below. |
Posted By: prog4evr
Date Posted: November 21 2006 at 03:56
Indeed, the thread originator's comment is a bit harsh. I also like Genesis more for the respective time-period (1971-1976), but you are right in saying to deny Yes' contribution and qualifications is to deny the essence of (early 1970s) prog. |
Posted By: progrocklover
Date Posted: November 21 2006 at 07:51
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I voted for Genesis. |
Posted By: jalas
Date Posted: November 21 2006 at 11:46
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Yes will always win in this debate, not because they're better, but because they had roundabout. It was a radio hit and they became more popular and their music began to represent the childhood of many people. ------------- 
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Posted By: Dr. Occulator
Date Posted: November 21 2006 at 12:20
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Will this nonsence ever end?
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Posted By: Freak
Date Posted: November 21 2006 at 16:37
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Genesis, because they simply make more beautiful music! ------------- 
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Posted By: Chus
Date Posted: November 21 2006 at 17:13
I beg to differ.... compare "Nursery Cryme" with "The YES Album" of the same year... Yes was still a more melodic rock act with progressive tendencies... but Genesis, from 1970, were already an established symphonic prog act, whereas Yes became a fully blown symphonic progressive band around Close To The Edge, while in Fragile they were close. So I even dare to say that Yes were ripping off Genesis... well rip-off is kind of a harsh term... but they surely learned a lot from Genesis and KC. ------------- Jesus Gabriel |