Jethro Tull
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Posted By: proggy
Subject: Jethro Tull
Date Posted: November 02 2006 at 06:28
Minstrel in the Gallery - What is Your Opinion?
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Posted By: CrazyDiamond
Date Posted: November 02 2006 at 06:48
prog polls - what is your opinion? 
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: November 02 2006 at 07:28
I like it, actually I prefer it to Aqualung.
That should start some discussion!
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: November 02 2006 at 07:29
reviewed.
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Posted By: White Duck
Date Posted: November 02 2006 at 07:32
A masterpiece for me.The best Tull work With Thick as a brick.Tull 100%.
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Posted By: Pnoom!
Date Posted: November 02 2006 at 08:22
Baker Street Muse - in my top 5 songs
Minstrel in the Gallery - one of my favorite album openers
Cold Wind to Valhalla - great fun
The rest - all quite good
Not a full 5 star masterpiece, but clearly the #2 in the Tull discography behind Thick as a Brick.
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Posted By: Pnoom!
Date Posted: November 02 2006 at 08:22
And it seems this should have been moved to prog recommendations/selected albums...
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Posted By: pero
Date Posted: November 02 2006 at 08:56
Its one of the best JT albums, but Thick as a brick, Passion play are my favorites
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Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: November 02 2006 at 09:04
Here's some previous threads with thoughts:
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| Minstrel In The Gallery Posted: 13 December 2005 at 22:58 |
What a fantastic album... not many people mention this album, instead they go on an on about Thick As a Brick and A Passion Play, and to some extent, Aqualung.....all those albums are fine albums.....but perhaps the TRUE jewel in the Tull pot is Minstrel In The Gallery. It is what I would call a perfect album, or near perfect in any respect. Marvelous writing, beautiful arrangments, cleverly written lyrics with thought provoking attributes, wonderful acoustic guitar playing (I assume from Mr. Anderson), ... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15861&KW=minstrel+gallery&PID=1784195#1784195"> |
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| Minstrel in the Gallery Posted: 26 June 2005 at 06:13 |
The Minstrel in the Gallery looked down upon the smiling (anddisgusted,pissed off) faces. Most people I know either love this album or think it's garbage. I enjoy it. What do you think? http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8017&KW=minstrel+gallery&PID=616747#616747"> |
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Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: November 02 2006 at 09:43
I have reviewed it favourably.
When you ask others for their opinion, why not put in a little effort, and offer your own opinion? This would make your thread more interesting. 
------------- "And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy.
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Posted By: fuxi
Date Posted: November 02 2006 at 16:24
When MINSTREL first came out, I felt disappointed. After the multi-coloured riches of A PASSION PLAY and WARCHILD (to this day I have never even heard TOO OLD TO ROCK 'N' ROLL, though I saw it performed live on TV once) MINSTREL seemed like black and white.
Now I think it's one of their strongest efforts, apart from the boring title track, which I always skip. I love all the other stuff, although 'Grace' is rather too sentimental to my taste.
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Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: November 02 2006 at 17:07
Hard-rock, lots of folk passages and prog-rock all in one record : a very good record, as all their seventies efforts.
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Posted By: Dalkaen
Date Posted: November 02 2006 at 17:41
I prefer Thick as a Brick, A Passion Play, Songs from the Wood, and Heavy Horses over it, but it's still a great album.
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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: November 03 2006 at 00:23
What do I think of Minstrel? It, uh, how can I phrase this correctly...rocks? Like, hard? Like, super hard?
I once made the mistake of putting the album on top of the Yes Album. (sniff) Poor thing was crushed under the HEAVY WOOD that is Minstrel. That song is, like, my favoritest Tull number evah.
(The first side of the album is fantastic; Minstrel, "favoritest Tull number evah," the fun and rockin' Cold Wind, Black Satin Dancer, great guitar work. Requiem is quite nice. All drifty and weepy. Side two sags a little. One White Etc. is good, but overlong. Baker Street Muse is a little too much, but the opening and closing sections are great. The finisher, Grace, is just fantastic--currently my favorite album closer, beating out Eclipse)
------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: November 03 2006 at 00:41
What is there not to like? I actually wish they'd kept up that clever conversation the musicians in the balcony are having, and continued it at the start and finish of each number.
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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: November 03 2006 at 00:47
Atavachron wrote:
What is there not to like? I actually wish they'd kept up that clever conversation the musicians in the balcony are having, and continued it at the start and finish of each number. |
Hmm... I don't think I'd like it throughout the album, but, yeah, I would have liked it to be revisited. An intriguing idea.
------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: November 03 2006 at 01:01
Yeah, I mean minstrels have to communicate, even in a whisper-- and the sounds of the pages, jesters, visiting royalty and guests...it all disappears after the second cut.
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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: November 03 2006 at 01:04
Yeah, but almost every track begins with some kind of studio noise (all but Black Satin Dancer and...Grace?).
By the way, am I the only one who notices that the flow of songs is nearly flawless?
------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson
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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: November 03 2006 at 01:07
Gosh but I love this album. Gotta say one more thing.
fuxi wrote:
When MINSTREL first came out, I felt disappointed. After the multi-coloured riches of A PASSION PLAY and WARCHILD (to this day I have never even heard TOO OLD TO ROCK 'N' ROLL, though I saw it performed live on TV once) MINSTREL seemed like black and white. |
For me, this was sort of the point. After the lush (and really quite artsy) Warchild, Minstrel was just utterly stripped down. Just compare the opening (and titular) tracks. One has a the little SFX fade in opening and over the top instrumentation, the other is Martin Barre smashing his guitar against the floor to John Evan's croaking organ.
(By the way, folks bash Too Old, but it's really quite a nice album. Not as good as Minstrel, but just as good as Warchild or Stormwatch)
------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: November 03 2006 at 01:40
...and the band's deft, grumbling commentary reflecting how musicians have always had to bow to their master's whims, playing their butts off for some stipend and a few leftover scraps. Could've been a powerful socio-musical statement.
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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: November 03 2006 at 02:41
I always thought of it more as Ian's humor. "I don't think they'll like this very much," because it's, like, a medieval audience recieving hard rock.
------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson
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Posted By: fuxi
Date Posted: November 03 2006 at 03:47
The Whistler wrote:
What do I think of Minstrel? It, uh, how can I phrase this correctly...rocks? Like, hard? Like, super hard?I once made the mistake of putting the album on top of the Yes Album. (sniff) Poor thing was crushed under the HEAVY WOOD that is Minstrel. That song is, like, my favoritest Tull number evah.
(The first side of the album is fantastic; Minstrel, "favoritest Tull number evah," the fun and rockin' Cold Wind, Black Satin Dancer, great guitar work. Requiem is quite nice. All drifty and weepy. Side two sags a little. One White Etc. is good, but overlong. Baker Street Muse is a little too much, but the opening and closing sections are great. The finisher, Grace, is just fantastic--currently my favorite album closer, beating out Eclipse) |
Hi there Whistler, ('I have a fife...')
I think we'd make great friends! As I said earlier, in my view the opening and closing tracks of MINSTREL are the weakest of the entire album.
Still, I can honestly say that Jethro Tull are one of my favourite bands. They've done some embarrassing things, but which rock band hasn't, and I completely agree that all their seventies recordings are delightful! Although I still don't know TOO OLD...
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Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: November 03 2006 at 18:02
I prefer it over both TaaB and Aqualung.
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Posted By: Stefanovic
Date Posted: November 03 2006 at 18:04
my choice is Aqualung and Songs from the Wood
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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: November 04 2006 at 00:02
fuxi wrote:
The Whistler wrote:
What do I think of Minstrel? It, uh, how can I phrase this correctly...rocks? Like, hard? Like, super hard?I once made the mistake of putting the album on top of the Yes Album. (sniff) Poor thing was crushed under the HEAVY WOOD that is Minstrel. That song is, like, my favoritest Tull number evah.
(The first side of the album is fantastic; Minstrel, "favoritest Tull number evah," the fun and rockin' Cold Wind, Black Satin Dancer, great guitar work. Requiem is quite nice. All drifty and weepy. Side two sags a little. One White Etc. is good, but overlong. Baker Street Muse is a little too much, but the opening and closing sections are great. The finisher, Grace, is just fantastic--currently my favorite album closer, beating out Eclipse) |
Hi there Whistler, ('I have a fife...')
I think we'd make great friends! As I said earlier, in my view the opening and closing tracks of MINSTREL are the weakest of the entire album.
Still, I can honestly say that Jethro Tull are one of my favourite bands. They've done some embarrassing things, but which rock band hasn't, and I completely agree that all their seventies recordings are delightful! Although I still don't know TOO OLD... |
Well, I do rock...
Oh, get Too Old. Look: if you liked Requiem, you'll like From a Deadbeat to an Old Greaser. If you liked Cold Wind (particularly the opening), you'll like Salamander. If you liked Song for Jeffrey, you'll like Taxi Grab. And, if you liked New Day Yesterday, you just might like the title track.
And besides...Ian (er, Ray Lomas) is flippin' everyone off on the cover! Look closely...can't get better than that!
------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson
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Posted By: Nowhere Man
Date Posted: November 04 2006 at 20:09
Very good album. I just got it about a week ago.
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Posted By: smithers
Date Posted: November 05 2006 at 21:18
Minstrel is the bands 2nd weakest moment of the 70s. Some good tunes, but none are outstanding. I prefer all other remasters except Too old to RnR, which is equal with Minstrel remaster. The sound and the song writing doesn't match TAAB at all. TAAB is excellent, Minstrel is good but Summerday sands is lovely. Minstrel is not as good as SFTW, A or Heavy horses. It is not as good as the bands years 1970, 1971 1974 or 1979. Tull had too many good songs from those 4 years on the Stormwatch, Benefit, Warchild and Aqualung REMASTERS and Living in the past. I think Too old to RnR is a good remaster and I love strip cartoon. 1975 and 1976 are good years for the band, but they are a step below all other 70s years. A passion play is mildly better than 1975 and 1976 too
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Posted By: Asyte2c00
Date Posted: November 05 2006 at 21:22
Yeah, that album is great. Its in my top five Tull albums for sure.
Its Victorian Prog, a bit of change for Tull and its the last album with bassist Jeffery Hammond-Hammond who never pick up his bass again to pursue his life-long dream of painting.  
"Cold Wind to Valhalla," "Baker St. Muse" and the title tarck are standout cuts for me.
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Posted By: Uroboros
Date Posted: November 05 2006 at 21:26
Minstrel in the Gallery = excellence 
------------- Tous les chemins
qui s’ouvrent à moi
ne mènent à rien si tu n’es plus là
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Posted By: Asyte2c00
Date Posted: November 05 2006 at 21:27
I think Stand Up s the hidden gem regarding Tull albums.
No one really ventures there becasue it was during their blues-folk period before the became prog.
This Was commendable effort, shoddy production, inconsistent thoguh, definitely shows potential.
Stand Up - solid Blues Folk album, Terrific Record, Consisten throughout.
Benefit - Sadly, i could never listen to this is one sitting. Surprising, its more accessible than other tull records, like A Passion Play, but yeah, pretty lifeless, A dry run a Aqualung just as many say Obscured by Clouds was a dry run fro Dark Side of the Moon
However, Tull redeems themselves with Nothing is Easy: Live at the Isle of Wright 1970 performing renditions of songs which appear on the three aforementioned albums. "Dharma for One" is great. Clive Bunker rules.
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Posted By: Fassbinder
Date Posted: November 05 2006 at 21:37
Minstrel in the Gallery is very strong album. Very divertive, in the good old Jethro Tull tradition, with some superb musicianship.
Two tracks of it, namely, "Cold Wind to Valhalla"  and "Black Satin Dancer"  , are just amazing, in my opinion.
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Posted By: smithers
Date Posted: November 05 2006 at 21:40
Fassbinder wrote:
Minstrel in the Gallery is very strong album. Very divertive, in the good old Jethro Tull tradition, with some superb musicianship.
Two tracks of it, namely, "Cold Wind to Valhalla"  and "Black Satin Dancer"  , are just amazing, in my opinion. |
i find it a bit lifeless 
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Posted By: smithers
Date Posted: November 05 2006 at 21:43
Asyte2c00 wrote:
I think Stand Up s the hidden gem regarding Tull albums.
No one really ventures there becasue it was during their blues-folk period before the became prog.
This Was commendable effort, shoddy production, inconsistent thoguh, definitely shows potential.
Stand Up - solid Blues Folk album, Terrific Record, Consisten throughout.
Benefit - Sadly, i could never listen to this is one sitting. Surprising, its more accessible than other tull records, like A Passion Play, but yeah, pretty lifeless, A dry run a Aqualung just as many say Obscured by Clouds was a dry run fro Dark Side of the Moon
However, Tull redeems themselves with Nothing is Easy: Live at the Isle of Wright 1970 performing renditions of songs which appear on the three aforementioned albums. "Dharma for One" is great. Clive Bunker rules.
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if you go through the Stand up remaster, The bonus songs Living in the past, Sweet dream and Driving are the classic songs of the cd. Then you add Look into the sun(which is excellent), Jeffrey goes to Leicester square, Nothing is easy, Fatman, Bouree etc. Tull were one of the best bands going around in 1969 when you look at those songs above. 1969 is a better year than 1975(Minstrel) :)
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Posted By: Uroboros
Date Posted: November 05 2006 at 22:12
I say they were better than most in '75 as well. And yes, "Cold Wind to Valhalla" and "Black Satin Dancer", along with "Baker St. Muse", are crushingly beautiful. It's a unique album (no other in their discography sounds the same), it's unshamedly progressive, and I feel it's the album where Palmer's orchestrations were most efficient (although those on Songs from the Wood are comparable). Plus, Barlow's work on this album leaves my jaw on the floor everytime.
------------- Tous les chemins
qui s’ouvrent à moi
ne mènent à rien si tu n’es plus là
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Posted By: smithers
Date Posted: November 05 2006 at 22:25
Cold wind to valhalla is good but sounds like a broken record, Barlow plays same thing
Black satin is quite good
One white duck is nice but should have stopped half way
Minstrel in the gallery sounds like Ian has taken helium
Requiem is nice when you are in the mood
Baker st is good but parts just drag on
Grace is too short
Summerday sands is best song from start to finish
Album suffers from quiet drums, quiet bass, vocals are too clean, song writing isn't as exciting as most tull and there is too much strumming and not enough fingerwork :)
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: November 06 2006 at 02:00
Look, near as I can reckon, every Tull album from 'Benefit' through 'Horses' is first rate, absolute cream. If you like one I don't reasonably see how you can't like another. But that's cool, it's why we're all here talking.
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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: November 06 2006 at 02:28
'75 is, of course, my favorite year for prog 'n roll, because of certain songs from certain bands. Minstrel, favorite Tull tune, Wish You Were Here, favorite Floydster, and 21st Century Schizoid Man, offa the USA live album (my favorite version of that song).
And don'tchu be 'a hatin' when Tull comes a rockin', 'cause...er, I dunno. Ran outta thought.
------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson
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Posted By: bundy
Date Posted: November 06 2006 at 07:00
Atavachron wrote:
Look, near as I can reckon, every Tull album from 'Benefit' through 'Horses' is first rate, absolute cream. If you like one I don't reasonably see how you can't like another. But that's cool, it's why we're all here talking. |
My sentiments as well although I would continue on as far as Stormwatch is one of my absolute favourites. Few bands have ever produced such a run of top notch albums as Tull. I've always felt there's no such thing as a mediocre Tull album - they're all good it's just that are some even better than others. About the only other band I would say that about with such an extensive catalogue would be Rush.
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They who talk do not know!
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Posted By: smithers
Date Posted: November 06 2006 at 07:22
i agree that stormwatch is a cool album and the stormwatch remaster has the best bonus tracks of the bands late 70s remasters. So 1977, 78 and 79 are 3 excellent years for the band. I will also include A as a fine album. Broadsword isn't a great album but it is still good, but 1982 has more than 10 fine songs. How can people forget I'm your gun, Motoreyes, Too many Too, Down at the end of your road and Jackalynn which didnt feature any percussion. The band was on top of the world from 1977-1982. But they were also on top of the world from 1969-1974. The remasters have incredible bonus songs. Minstrel and Too old are a slight drop in form. I even prefer the 90s albums
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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: November 08 2006 at 02:33
Well, Stormwatch is good and all, but every true Tuller knows that Heavy Horses is...the end. It's the last "true Tull" album, seeing as how all the members were actually present. In fact, when you listen to the (heavy) intro of Heavy Horses (song), it's like Ian is saying, "Okay, this is the last run lads. Let's make it really count."
And I'm thinking WAY too far into these songs.
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Posted By: smithers
Date Posted: November 08 2006 at 04:46
The Whistler wrote:
Well, Stormwatch is good and all, but every true Tuller knows that Heavy Horses is...the end. It's the last "true Tull" album, seeing as how all the members were actually present. In fact, when you listen to the (heavy) intro of Heavy Horses (song), it's like Ian is saying, "Okay, this is the last run lads. Let's make it really count."
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I'm a true Tull fan who has every single song on cd and you are very wrong. To say Tull ended at Heavy Horses is what a half Tull fan would believe. I can gaurantee you that Tull had as many great songs in 1979 as they did in 1978. North sea oil, Dun ringill and Crossword are 3 of my favorite Tull songs of all time. Just like Rover, Acres wild and Mouse police are some of my all time fave Tull songs. No lullaby and Dark ages are both fine epics. Orion and One brown mouse are both fine acoustics. A sticth in time, Elegy and Kelpie are just as cool as Moths, Beltane and Blues instrumental. Don't just look at the albums, look at all the songs. Tull had classic songs on A, classic songs in 1982, a couple of Crest, some on Dotcom, some on Roots, some in 1991. Tull have never dropped off the pace
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Posted By: smithers
Date Posted: November 08 2006 at 22:44
I remember you saying you don't like A either. Crazy man ;)
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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: November 09 2006 at 02:48
Nah, A is "okay." It's just that side 2 cannot live up to side 1, which wasn't exactly classic to start with.
And I'm also not calling Stormwatch a bad album. It's just...I dunno. Dun Ringhill is a great ole Tull song, but when you hit Stormwatch, that's honestly the end of the old Tull. My boy Johnny Glascock isn't even on half the tracks.
But Heavy Horses still ranks, in my oftentimes (it seems) mistaken opine, as the last overpowering Tull album. But I own nothing past Catfish, and no other albums from the "heavy metal" period. Unless you count Rupi's Dance...
------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson
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Posted By: bundy
Date Posted: November 09 2006 at 08:56
Two obvious Tull fans and neither of you mention Flying Dutchman when discussing Stormwatch :-0 I am stunned. To this Tull fan it's one of their finest moments!!!!
------------- They who know do not speak!
They who talk do not know!
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Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: November 09 2006 at 09:15
Very good, but not quite up to Tull's highest standards
Essential for any true fan. 
------------- "And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy.
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Posted By: smithers
Date Posted: November 09 2006 at 17:25
Flying dutchman is a good song, but I'm not usually in the mood to listen to it. It's probably the equal of the song Heavy horses. Both have their moments but can be a bit slow in parts. I pretty much prefer all other Stormwatch and Heavy horses era songs over both of these tunes. North sea oil, Crossword and Dun ringill are great songs for me from 1979. Just perfect little rock songs with a touch of prog in each :)
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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: November 09 2006 at 19:40
No, no... Dark Ages is like Heavy Horses, and Flying Dutchman is like Pibroch. As it stands, I prefer Ages and Horses to both, but Horses is the best of that lot.
------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson
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Posted By: smithers
Date Posted: November 09 2006 at 21:35
No. Dark ages is like No lullaby and Pibroch. All 3 are slow heavy style epics. Flying dutchman and Heavy horses are like traditional English sounding epics
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Posted By: bundy
Date Posted: November 10 2006 at 07:55
smithers wrote:
Flying dutchman is a good song, but I'm not usually in the mood to listen to it. It's probably the equal of the song Heavy horses. Both have their moments but can be a bit slow in parts. I pretty much prefer all other Stormwatch and Heavy horses era songs over both of these tunes. North sea oil, Crossword and Dun ringill are great songs for me from 1979. Just perfect little rock songs with a touch of prog in each :) |
Wow Smithers - Heavy Horses is another of my favourite Tull tracks! Gorgeous lyrics and Ian's vocals on this track are sublime!!! Probably my favourite vocal performance on any album. When he sings
"Let me find me a filly for your proud standing steed'' and the line "To hide you from eyes that mock at your girth" it's aural ecstasy for this fan!!!!!LOL
My other favourites on Heavy Horses are Moths, Acres Wild and Rover.
------------- They who know do not speak!
They who talk do not know!
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Posted By: smithers
Date Posted: November 10 2006 at 17:06
Acres wild and Rover are awesome. So is Mouse police. No lullaby, One brown mouse and Moths are also very cool. But the title song Heavy horses sounds a little bit too English country. Ians voice in the slow parts sounds a bit strange(he almost sounds like he's 50 years old) and the lyrics are a bit too traditional and romantic. But I love this song live, It sounds heavy, Ian sings cleaner, more guitar, more hammond organ, more bass improvisation. Have you heard the awesome version from 1979 Watchers of the storm? Here's a pretty good version from 1980s slipstream, but the 1979 is better.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9n-g8454MY&mode=related&search - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9n-g8454MY&mode=related&search =
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Posted By: fuxi
Date Posted: November 12 2006 at 08:30
smithers wrote:
To say Tull ended at Heavy Horses is what a half Tull fan would believe. |
Well folks, there's some good stuff on BROADSWORD, and I really enjoy CREST OF A KNAVE - in spite of the Dire Straits rip-offs and the drum machines!
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Posted By: fuxi
Date Posted: November 12 2006 at 08:36
Asyte2c00 wrote:
I think Stand Up s the hidden gem regarding Tull albums.
No one really ventures there becasue it was during their blues-folk period before the became prog.
This Was commendable effort, shoddy production, inconsistent thoguh, definitely shows potential.
Stand Up - solid Blues Folk album, Terrific Record, Consisten throughout.
Benefit - Sadly, i could never listen to this is one sitting. Surprising, its more accessible than other tull records, like A Passion Play, but yeah, pretty lifeless, A dry run a Aqualung just as many say Obscured by Clouds was a dry run fro Dark Side of the Moon
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I first got to know Tull in this order (way back in 1975):
1. WARCHILD (which had then just appeared)
2. BENEFIT (which I have always loved, and still do)
3. A PASSION PLAY and AQUALUNG (id.)
I also enjoy THIS WAS, just because it sounds so rough! And its bonus tracks are wonderful.
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Posted By: smithers
Date Posted: November 14 2006 at 02:39
fuxi wrote:
Asyte2c00 wrote:
I think Stand Up s the hidden gem regarding Tull albums.
No one really ventures there becasue it was during their blues-folk period before the became prog.
This Was commendable effort, shoddy production, inconsistent thoguh, definitely shows potential.
Stand Up - solid Blues Folk album, Terrific Record, Consisten throughout.
Benefit - Sadly, i could never listen to this is one sitting. Surprising, its more accessible than other tull records, like A Passion Play, but yeah, pretty lifeless, A dry run a Aqualung just as many say Obscured by Clouds was a dry run fro Dark Side of the Moon
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I first got to know Tull in this order (way back in 1975):
1. WARCHILD (which had then just appeared) 2. BENEFIT (which I have always loved, and still do) 3. A PASSION PLAY and AQUALUNG (id.)
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The bonus tracks on warchild are like the makings of a propper tull album of 1974, while the original tracks are purposely written for a movie. The 7 bonus tracks are the best songs on the whole cd almost. Same with This Was and Benefit, the best songs on each cd are mainly the bonus tracks. Mainly because they were the bands classic singles from 1968 and 1970. The same can be said for Stand up. Once again the classic singles are the bonus tracks and are the best songs on the cd
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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: November 14 2006 at 02:45
Wha--?!? You didn't like We Used to Know?!?
------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson
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Posted By: smithers
Date Posted: November 14 2006 at 03:11
We used to know isn't bad, a bit simplish but good. Look into the sun is great though. Check your pm's Whistler ;)
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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: November 14 2006 at 03:19
And what about the Bouree? Hmm? HMMM?
(careful now; you'll spoil my reputation as the world's only die-hard Tuller who doesn't own Aqualung)
------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson
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Posted By: smithers
Date Posted: November 14 2006 at 06:09
Bouree isn't too bad. A bit old fashioned, but good. The best songs on Stand up are Look into the sun and Jeffrey goes to Leicester square ;) Love em
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Posted By: bundy
Date Posted: November 14 2006 at 08:01
smithers wrote:
Bouree isn't too bad. A bit old fashioned, but good. The best songs on Stand up are Look into the sun and Jeffrey goes to Leicester square ;) Love em |
Not too bad???? That's an understatement!!!. You are a hard taskmaster my fellow Tull fan!
Best songs on Standup? - For a Thousand Mothers and Nothing is Easy.
One thing we agree on; great quartet of bonus tracks.
------------- They who know do not speak!
They who talk do not know!
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Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: November 14 2006 at 09:05
'Stand Up' is a classic. One of Tull's best, and it puts their more recent output into perspective imo. I love 'Reasons For Waiting' on that album- the introduction with acoustic guitar and flute is the most beautiful thing they ever did.
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Posted By: smithers
Date Posted: November 14 2006 at 18:26
For a thousand mothers is too messy for me and Nothing is easy is a good bluesy song, but slightly predictable ;)
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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: November 14 2006 at 18:33
Well, I gotta agree with him on For a Thousand Mothers. It's not a bad song, but Ian's vocals are buried. Love that flute line though.
(by the way, the version on Live Aisle of Wight, no better. Might even be worse)
------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson
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Posted By: smithers
Date Posted: November 14 2006 at 18:58
did you hear those Aqualung songs Whistler?
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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: November 15 2006 at 01:37
Sorry, I took the easy way out...it was on sale at Tower so I bought it (Animals too).
I was able to download My God though. I'd ne're heard the original.
------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson
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Posted By: smithers
Date Posted: November 15 2006 at 02:17
I assume you bought the Aqualung remaster. You really should pick up Living in the past if you haven't got that. It has some great songs from 1971 too
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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: November 15 2006 at 02:34
smithers wrote:
I assume you bought the Aqualung remaster. You really should pick up Living in the past if you haven't got that. It has some great songs from 1971 too |
But it doesn't have "YOO WERE ONLY SHEVENTEEN," aka, Led Zep w/flute, does it?
------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson
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Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: November 15 2006 at 02:44
smithers wrote:
I assume you bought the Aqualung remaster. You really should pick up Living in the past if you haven't got that. It has some great songs from 1971 too |
I confirm!! This is an absolute must have from the first era, chronologically between Aqualung and TAAB.
However, i've been choked to read on the CD that they simply removed some pieces to make the whole fit into one CD...What a shame! I don't know the vynil, so if someone has it, that would be highly interesting to know about these "extra" pieces. Moreover, there's maybe another CD version which features all tracks.
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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: November 15 2006 at 02:47
Yeah! And Ian didn't dedicate it to no one! Not cool my friends...when's Martin Barre get his own?
------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson
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Posted By: smithers
Date Posted: November 15 2006 at 03:29
oliverstoned wrote:
smithers wrote:
I assume you bought the Aqualung remaster. You really should pick up Living in the past if you haven't got that. It has some great songs from 1971 too |
I confirm!! This is an absolute must have from the first era, chronologically between Aqualung and TAAB.
However, i've been choked to read on the CD that they simply removed some pieces to make the whole fit into one CD...What a shame! I don't know the vynil, so if someone has it, that would be highly interesting to know about these "extra" pieces. Moreover, there's maybe another CD version which features all tracks.
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i think the extra song on vinyl is one of the songs on Benefit. I know it's on one of the remasters.
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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: November 15 2006 at 03:36
Uh, hmm. Just so happens that Benefit is one of those albums I keep next to my computer. Tracks found on both albums (unless I'm mistaken) include: Singin' All Day, Witch's Promise and Just Tryin' ter Be (all bonuses), and Inside (album proper). I think some versions of Living in the Past include Alive Well and Living In, or perhaps Michael Collins, Jeffrey 'n Me? Those are the ones on the vinyl, not on the CD (which is why I'm usure about them), both off the album proper.
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Posted By: smithers
Date Posted: November 15 2006 at 03:43
Some versions didn't include Teacher also I think. Hey whistler, did you get remastered version of Aqualung?
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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: November 15 2006 at 03:46
Right, right! Teacher was on Living, and it's a Beneficial Bonus.
------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson
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Posted By: smithers
Date Posted: November 15 2006 at 03:47
hey whistler, did you get the remastered version of Aqualung?
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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: November 15 2006 at 03:49
Complete with a "I'll see you at the weighing in, when your life's sum total's...MADE!" 'n everything!
------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson
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Posted By: smithers
Date Posted: November 15 2006 at 03:53
Well make sure you listen to the quad version of wind up first, the first version is crap hehe
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