Best drummer in this photo?
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Topic: Best drummer in this photo?
Posted By: Man Overboard
Subject: Best drummer in this photo?
Date Posted: November 08 2006 at 21:14
Don't fail me, forum! 
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Posted By: WaywardSon
Date Posted: November 08 2006 at 21:16
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Portnoy of course
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Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: November 08 2006 at 21:20
I said don't fail me  ------------- https://soundcloud.com/erin-susan-jennings" rel="nofollow - Bedroom guitarist". Composer, Arranger, Producer. Perfection may not exist, but I may still choose to serve Perfection. Commissions considered. |
WaywardSon wrote:Posted By: Dan Bobrowski
Date Posted: November 08 2006 at 21:21
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C'mon, Bill rules!
Portnoy is okay if you like Metal. Of course, his work with Transatlantic and OSI is damn good. I just don't care fer the 64th note frenzies.
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Posted By: Arrrghus
Date Posted: November 08 2006 at 21:21
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I'm guessing it's the guy who played in Yes, KC, UK, and led his own band. The dude from DT is amazing (and I mean amazing , but he's not Bruford. ------------- 
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Posted By: ResidentAlien
Date Posted: November 08 2006 at 21:22
| Bruford rocks. |
Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: November 08 2006 at 21:33
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Bill Bruford is THE prog drummer, with no exceptions.
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Posted By: smithers
Date Posted: November 08 2006 at 21:36
| Portnoy isn't that good |
Posted By: yesfan88
Date Posted: November 08 2006 at 21:38
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I love Bill Bruford! He's the best prog drummer ever in the entire world. ------------- "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"- Evelyn Beatrice Hall |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: November 08 2006 at 21:54
| Bruford is sublime...beyond the realm, even, of human capacity. It is as if he *is* the drums that he plays and adds something to the music that Portnoy just doesn't. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: November 08 2006 at 21:59
very well said... here's a couple clappies for ya..  ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: November 08 2006 at 22:15
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I have a lot of respect for Portnoy, but Bruford is THE man. His inventive capabilities alone should be enough to put him on top. ------------- a.k.a. H.T. http://riekels.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow - http://riekels.wordpress.com |
Posted By: lightbulb_son
Date Posted: November 08 2006 at 22:20
*cough cough* somebody seems to be forgetting THE PROFESSOR. *cough cough* ------------- When the world is sick Can't no one be well But I dreamt we were all beautiful and strong 
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Posted By: AcostaFulano
Date Posted: November 08 2006 at 22:24
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In metal style, portnoy. and this is 100% undeniable in every other style. bruford. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: November 08 2006 at 22:26
no he's not hahah.. as he said.. no exceptions...  ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Tholomyes
Date Posted: November 08 2006 at 22:30
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it seems that Bill is teaching Portnoy how to play drums without be boring in that picture. Bruford, no contest. If anyone doubt about Bill playing metal, so just listen lark's tongues in aspic and starless and bible black.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: November 08 2006 at 22:34
I'll take Vander over Peart, both as a musician AND as a songwriter. As for the best drummer in that photo: Bruford of course -- brilliant drummer. |
Posted By: Viajero Astral
Date Posted: November 08 2006 at 22:35
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Bruford of course, even Mike Portoy will be agree with this
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: November 08 2006 at 22:39
good man.. I'd put Vander at #2 right behind Bruford. Vander is frickin amazing.. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: November 08 2006 at 22:49
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I'm glad to see so many of you agree ------------- https://soundcloud.com/erin-susan-jennings" rel="nofollow - Bedroom guitarist". Composer, Arranger, Producer. Perfection may not exist, but I may still choose to serve Perfection. Commissions considered. |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: November 08 2006 at 22:53
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Yes is a wonderful band...Brufford a great drummer... BUT NOT THE BEST....
Against Portnoy....yes, maybe I'd pick Brufford, but not as being the best drummer in all of prog....
Bozzio? Palmer? Peart? ..... And believe me, the true monsters of the drum set are around TODAY (Carey, Lillequist, Portnoy himself...Bozzio again, he's a monster....) when you know about drums you find out that not-so-famous drummers like D'Virgilio from Spock's Beard and MAitland AND HArrrison from porcupine Tree are good... the guy from Riverside....Zonder from Fates Warning...
In all music....Even in all prog, too many monsters to choose one.
But in the picture? Maybe Brufford. But by a Hair
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Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: November 08 2006 at 22:55
You think that Bozzio, Palmer, Peart, Carey, Lilliquist (and I'm a TFK fanboy), Portnoy, D'Virgilio, Maitland, Harrison, etc hold a candle to Bruford?  ------------- https://soundcloud.com/erin-susan-jennings" rel="nofollow - Bedroom guitarist". Composer, Arranger, Producer. Perfection may not exist, but I may still choose to serve Perfection. Commissions considered. |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: November 08 2006 at 22:56
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But for all DT-bashers and those who call their music noise:
you love Yes, and see who's talking with portnoy. So I guess at least Brufford has the minimum amount of respect for what Portnoy does (he wouldn't be talking to the drummer in papa roach)...
So if the "profesor" is so open minded, why not his fans????
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: November 08 2006 at 22:59
Off course I think that... if not I wouldn't have wrote that in the first place.... I'm a drummer and that doesn't mean I know who's the best, but I think my opinion is as valid as everyone else's
Brufford was not THE original prog-drummer... he is a master, don't get me wrong.... but so are the others..... in fact, Brufford played pretty much in the saem style as every good drummer in his time.... todat we have so many varied styles....
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Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: November 08 2006 at 23:16
Bruford's worth with Yes may've been typical, but with Crimson, he was a monster. ------------- https://soundcloud.com/erin-susan-jennings" rel="nofollow - Bedroom guitarist". Composer, Arranger, Producer. Perfection may not exist, but I may still choose to serve Perfection. Commissions considered. |
Posted By: mrgd
Date Posted: November 08 2006 at 23:44
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It's Brill Burford for me rather than Pratnoy. ------------- Looking still the same after all these years... mrgd |
Posted By: willy
Date Posted: November 09 2006 at 00:18
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Bruford is probably my favorite drummer. I never said he was necessarily the best, though he is better than Portnoy. There just isnt anyhting about his style and skill thay I dont like. ------------- 
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Posted By: R o V e R
Date Posted: November 09 2006 at 00:26
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Thank God
this is not the poll |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: November 09 2006 at 00:32
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Check the picture carefully....you'll see Bill is playing air guitar...not air drums....now what does that mean???
Nothing off course...
I agree he was better in Crimson. The thing is, rating drummers is difficult: as they don't carry the melody and harmony end of songs, we have to judge them by how well their drumming fits the music, how original and unique their style is, and, in this case we have to, how many hands thay seem to have (I mean pure virtuosity....)..... In the first department, I think Portnoy fits DT's prog-style perfectly...AS did Brufford in Yes and KC....now in the uniqueness department, I think Portnoy has a style of his own, with double bass drumming and clever hihat/ride patterns and trademark odd-places-cymbals crashes, while Brufford, when in Yes, was a monster but his style was not THAT much different from others like Palmer and even less-virtuoso Collins....in the like-octopuss department, matbe because of new techniques, new technologies in drum head development, better drum sticks or whatever reason, Portnoy seems to have more speed and ability to defy the listener.... But one department I think Brufford has going for him is style-changing ability: he could switch from pure rock to virtuoso to bluessy to even jazzy at times, while Portnoy's attempts at jazz (drummers crowning genre) are quite rare, and at times when he could be playing swing-like rhytmh he preferes regular 4/4 hihat/bass/snare patterns, so he seems like unable or unwilling to deviate from prog-metal style.... and this is the only reason I think may move the balance in favor of Brufford....
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Posted By: Eat_Paris
Date Posted: November 09 2006 at 00:39
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IMO both of them are great as a musician .. but in terms of technicality, power, tightness (fast but clean), accuracy.. Portnoy is a monster (love 'em both thou).. so... its Portnoy for me... (  kinda always thought that he is like a paul gilbert in rock/metal drum world)------------- "love prog .. simply because its beautiful" .. and lindsay lohan =P~ |
Posted By: Eat_Paris
Date Posted: November 09 2006 at 00:44
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btw can't imagine what they were talking about.. is it about technics? drum manufacturer? recording? music philosophy? ... or maybe they're talking bout.... groupies? (  hey.. a guy is a guyesp. musician )------------- "love prog .. simply because its beautiful" .. and lindsay lohan =P~ |
Posted By: Eat_Paris
Date Posted: November 09 2006 at 00:47
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for "the T".. althou i dont agree with your final verdict.. but "a very very nice analysis indeed" (very informing) THANKS.... ------------- "love prog .. simply because its beautiful" .. and lindsay lohan =P~ |
Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: November 09 2006 at 01:16
He's not playing air guitar, they're having a conversation 
And you -really- need to hear Bruford on the Starless And Bible Black album, and as a drummer, analyze that. And if you think Bruford's not unique, go pick up the Neal And Jack And Me DVD and watch him. Not virtuoso? Not innovative? Not creative and unique? My arse. ------------- https://soundcloud.com/erin-susan-jennings" rel="nofollow - Bedroom guitarist". Composer, Arranger, Producer. Perfection may not exist, but I may still choose to serve Perfection. Commissions considered. |
Posted By: Australian
Date Posted: November 09 2006 at 01:20
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^ You never know...
My Vote goes to Billy. ------------- 
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Posted By: KoS
Date Posted: November 09 2006 at 01:23
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Billy |
Posted By: Bastille Dude
Date Posted: November 09 2006 at 01:28
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I named one of my dogs after Bill Bruford.
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Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: November 09 2006 at 01:30
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You have a Catbus in your sig. You rock. ------------- https://soundcloud.com/erin-susan-jennings" rel="nofollow - Bedroom guitarist". Composer, Arranger, Producer. Perfection may not exist, but I may still choose to serve Perfection. Commissions considered. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: November 09 2006 at 02:22
I think both of them would agree that the question is stupid to start with. Grow up, people! ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to: 
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Posted By: valravennz
Date Posted: November 09 2006 at 03:07
I beg to disagree with that statement. While there were many great drummers at the height of prog rock in the seventies, Bill's style was in my opinion, unique to him only. Listen to the time shifts on "Heart of the Sunrise" for example. Absolutely incredible in their execution. The only other drummer whom I admired for playing with a similar technique was Michael Giles (KC).
Yes - Portnoy is a great prog metal drummer but for overall variety in technical style, Bill Bruford will always be "head and shoulders" above Portnoy. To be fair, their drumming styles are disimilar enough to not really warrant a comparison...  ------------- 
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Posted By: OpethGuitarist
Date Posted: November 09 2006 at 03:19
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Thomas Haake over both... also, a big LOL @ how dumb these threads are/get. For those who always say,"Even so and so would say he's better" Musicians do things out of respect. They like what each other has done. They are not going to say "No, hes a crappy musicians what was he thinking". People are mature enough to not do that, so those arguments are pretty much extremely weak. Example: Tiger Woods. He always says Jack Nicklaus is the best. However, many would say Tiger is far superior given today's current talent level and his consistency at the top. Point? It's irrelevant to use that kind of argument. Point? Threads like these end up dumb and full of bashing. ------------- back from the dead, i will begin posting reviews again and musing through the forums |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: November 09 2006 at 03:27
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Posted By: valravennz
Date Posted: November 09 2006 at 03:31
 Yes agreed - you are quite right !-------------
"Music is the Wine that fills the cup of Silence" - Robert Fripp |
Posted By: iguana
Date Posted: November 09 2006 at 03:49
call him a "prog drummer", mate, and he'll (ab)use you as his drum kit! still, my vote goes for him. a true innovator who has never stopped doing so. ------------- progressive rock and rural tranquility don't match. true or false? |
Posted By: Lex C
Date Posted: November 09 2006 at 06:48
Much agreed. Thomas Hakke over both. However Bruford is my third Favorite drummer out there. My list is Haake, Johan (from PoS) and then Bruford. Bruford is amazingly original and technical. And please dont get me wrong Portney is too, however Bruford has a more original style and sound. ------------- You think we've developed fast that we're civilized and intelligent I'll let you in on a secret...We've developed things the rest is just knowledge passed on. |
Posted By: Baza
Date Posted: November 09 2006 at 06:49
Bruford is the better drummer in that photo, and also in this one:
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Posted By: Frippertron
Date Posted: November 09 2006 at 08:31
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Just a shame there isnt a photo of THE best rock drummer of all..
Keith Moon.. ------------- The Cheerful Insanity of Prog Rock |
Posted By: rushaholic
Date Posted: November 09 2006 at 09:54
| Bruford is among the best - right behind The Professor. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: November 09 2006 at 10:01
*micky genuflects* if not the best... certaining the most entertaing, energetic, interesting, colourful, and greatest of all rock drummers. here's a couple clappies for you ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: November 09 2006 at 10:06
Here's a very rare one and it isnt a mock up!!
Portnoy interviwing Peart for the UK drum magazine Rhythm. |
Posted By: toolis
Date Posted: November 09 2006 at 10:09
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i think Portnoy showed his true potential with OSI and that he is more than a prog metal drummer... still, Bruford is history and it's an unfair comparison.. why don't we get back on the subject a couple of decades later... ------------- -music is like pornography... sometimes amateurs turn us on, even more... -sometimes you are the pigeon and sometimes you are the statue... |
Posted By: toolis
Date Posted: November 09 2006 at 10:10
now, that would be a fair comparison: Peart Vs Bruford.. i'd go with Peart.. ------------- -music is like pornography... sometimes amateurs turn us on, even more... -sometimes you are the pigeon and sometimes you are the statue... |
Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: November 09 2006 at 10:11
Interstingly Peart's left hand seems to be indicating what he thinks about Portnoy's playing...
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Posted By: toolis
Date Posted: November 09 2006 at 10:13
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^or maybe it's: "if you don't stop talking that much, i'll punch you.." ------------- -music is like pornography... sometimes amateurs turn us on, even more... -sometimes you are the pigeon and sometimes you are the statue... |
Posted By: OpethGuitarist
Date Posted: November 09 2006 at 11:02
Tony you surprise me every now and then, ahahaha ------------- back from the dead, i will begin posting reviews again and musing through the forums |
Posted By: jalas
Date Posted: November 09 2006 at 11:25
that's blasphemy. I am a drummer and I should know. If God gave Portnoy or Bruford their great talent, the only thing we can say negative about them is that they don't entertain you. The question is unfair. The two are good in their own genres.
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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: November 09 2006 at 12:32
You mean, let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it's me, I'm a little messed up maybe, but I suprise you how, I mean surprise like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I'm here to amuse you? What do you mean surprise, surprise how? How am I surprising? 
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Posted By: OpethGuitarist
Date Posted: November 09 2006 at 12:40
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trying to imitate goodfellas? edit: gj putting that in small type, clown ------------- back from the dead, i will begin posting reviews again and musing through the forums |
Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: November 09 2006 at 13:01
Holly sh*t, thats Bruford!!! I did not recognize him! Bruford all the way, my faovrite!
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Posted By: leifandreas
Date Posted: November 09 2006 at 13:16
| Bruford, off course. |
Posted By: Uroboros
Date Posted: November 09 2006 at 13:37
Both, of course. My favourite drummers. I love these people.  ------------- Tous les chemins qui s’ouvrent à moi ne mènent à rien si tu n’es plus là |
Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: November 09 2006 at 13:43
| Portnoy is good, but Bruford is better. Plain truth. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: November 09 2006 at 14:00
With OSI? I mean, he's more or less just a session drummer there. I'm more amazed by his performance on the recent Neal Morse albums, especially One. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to:
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: November 09 2006 at 14:15
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As someone suggested, let's ask this again in a couple of decades.... It's very unfair (if not plain stupid) to compare a drummer with like 8 albums and almost 20 years in the business with another that was playing at the end of the sixties and who probably has around 100 albums (i don't know, don't keep track of Brufford statistics...will somebody enlighten us?)!!! Very unfair to compare a drummer who's starting to become a legend (even you DT haters will agree to this) to one that's already a legend! Not fair to compare a drummer in a band with 20 years experience with another in a band that was one of the founders of the genre!!! Not fair to compare a drummer of a band that specializes in prog-metal, SO HE'S FORCED to play acrobatics most of the time rather than sytlish, with a drummer from bands like Yes or KC which played MANY styles within their songs.... not fair to ask a question when 90% of the target audience are Yes/Crismson unconditionals and will say that whatever came out from those two bands was IT and when about 50% of the people in the forum HATE the other drummer's band (DT).... I insist, stupid question notwithstanding, both are great, both have "advantages" (what's music, a contest???) over the other..... Brufford's fills were not that wonderful (mostly descending tom-tom rolls, like most every drummer in that time).... while Portnoy incorporates bass drums and different effect cymbals like crashes and chynas into the mix.... but again, and I want to be fair, this IS UNFAIR, TOO, because in Brufford's glory days there weren't as many drum-head companies as today (remo, aquarian, etc...) and drumhead were not made with the level of technology that they are today...there was not Sabian, only paiste and Zyldjian (iand i'm not that sure about that) and there were hardly 50% of the cymbals and effects you can get today...hihat stands, and doublebass drum pedals like dw5000 and better, those weren't around in those days....I'm not saying Brufford would've used them, but the the comparison would've been fairer.... this is THE worst comparison ever. If we add Peart to the equation, now he was a descending-tomtom-filler too, but he begun incorporatin a lot of cymbals and effects in his sound, very interesting ridecymbal patterns and weird-placed accents.... he was THE drummer in whom Portnoy inspired himself...not Brufford, who was more of a rock-jazzy kind of drummer... and as somebody said, go ask portnoy, he will say that those two are his teachers and better than him, OFF course, he grew up listening to them! As bad a comparison as possible... And about technology, I'm not saying it's that important, talent is what matters...but when you compare just PERFORMERS, and specially DRUMMERS, you have to do a little mention about that... |
Posted By: frippster
Date Posted: November 09 2006 at 14:16
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I prefer Bruford's work over Portnoy's. They are both monsters in their own right as is Peart and others mentioned in this thread before. I want to mention that Gavin Harrison has a very tasteful and elegant style that suits Wilson's music very well, he might become very famous if PT finally fully breaks into the mainstream. There are so many great drummers that I think the reason to prefer one over the other involves the music they play drums along with, meaning that I won't even listen to some of the great drummers (or any other instrument for that matter) if the overall music doesn't do much for me. It's very personal. The three pictures (BB/Portnoy, Portnoy/Peart, BB/Collins) are great, btw. |
Posted By: condor
Date Posted: November 09 2006 at 15:43
| Is it me or has Bruford changed a lot? I used to recognise him, not anymore. |
Posted By: walrus
Date Posted: November 09 2006 at 16:34
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BILL BRUFORD!! ------------- you and whose army? |
Posted By: Trickster F.
Date Posted: November 09 2006 at 16:40
He has *gasp* got old...  ------------- sig |
Posted By: BePinkTheater
Date Posted: November 09 2006 at 17:21
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Love both.. but bruford is better
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Posted By: BePinkTheater
Date Posted: November 09 2006 at 17:24
Now this guy, IMO is the best one out there.
He plays musically, he listens to the band, he controls the music, and he knows when its the time to take a seat back (which is MOST OF THE TIME!!!) He has a great sense of rythm and does a lot of interesting stuff, while still keeping the groove ( the most important part).
I vote harrison over ALL ------------- I can strangle a canary in a tin can and it would be really original, but that wouldn't save it from sounding like utter sh*t. -Stone Beard |
Posted By: Rust
Date Posted: November 09 2006 at 17:43
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Not gonna get into the debate, but Bill is the obvious choice. ------------- We got to pump the stuff to make us tough from the heart Its astart What we need is awareness we cant get careless Mental self defensive fitness Make everybody see in order to fight the powers that be |
Posted By: Masque
Date Posted: November 09 2006 at 20:31
I`m a drum teacher ... that's my job its what I do ... that said you people make me sick with how you always compare .. both of these men are the drummers drummers far beyond what you could rank so don`t even try  and please get of portnoy's back he carried the prog drummer torch through the 90`s and inspired many people. unbelievable you are ------------- |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: November 09 2006 at 21:04
TALK TO ME man....
At last the voice of reason....
But from time to time you CAN compare.... imagine comparing brufford with mick pointer.... that would be cruel (though I LOVE Arena..)
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Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: November 09 2006 at 22:28
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: November 09 2006 at 22:44
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and he's the only top-lier prog band drummer that's clearly below-average drummer...
but he looks like he's a good man....
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Posted By: BePinkTheater
Date Posted: November 09 2006 at 22:47
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^ was that about Pointer, or Portnoy? ------------- I can strangle a canary in a tin can and it would be really original, but that wouldn't save it from sounding like utter sh*t. -Stone Beard |
Posted By: cuncuna
Date Posted: November 09 2006 at 23:04
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The only contender to Bruford I can think of is C. Vander. Both are drum mosters. ------------- ¡Beware of the Bee! |
Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: November 09 2006 at 23:42
What Dan said.
Bruford is an original, a legend, recognizable in a second (how many drummers is that true of?), and great at many diverse forms of music (writing, too).
 He'll always be my PROG drum god!
Again, I saw him take center-stage during the ABWH tour, and do a mind-blowing, exciting solo with just A WOODEN BLOCK AND ONE STICK!
 Could yer upstart Porkboy pull that off?  Goodbye Porkboy Tw*t ------------- "And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy. |
Posted By: OpethGuitarist
Date Posted: November 09 2006 at 23:46
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Not that I should get in the middle of this, but Portnoy did something very similar with a fan in concert. You shouldn't be so condescending. ------------- back from the dead, i will begin posting reviews again and musing through the forums |
Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: November 09 2006 at 23:50
If you're referring to what I think you are, that's absolutely NOTHING compared to Bruford's percussive ventues. And I'm a Portnoy fan. ------------- https://soundcloud.com/erin-susan-jennings" rel="nofollow - Bedroom guitarist". Composer, Arranger, Producer. Perfection may not exist, but I may still choose to serve Perfection. Commissions considered. |
Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: November 10 2006 at 00:27
I know, I know -- but where's the fun in THAT?------------- "And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy. |
Posted By: OpethGuitarist
Date Posted: November 10 2006 at 01:31
I'm not a fan of either per se. ------------- back from the dead, i will begin posting reviews again and musing through the forums |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: November 10 2006 at 03:22
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Bruf's the man!
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Posted By: Stefanovic
Date Posted: November 10 2006 at 03:23
BRUFORD!!! Who else ?
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Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: November 10 2006 at 09:41
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Anyway, the fact that they are in a studio together, and seem to be talking in a civil manner, hopefully indicates mutual respect.
I'm no Portnoy expert by any means, but judging from what I've read on this forum, I've no doubt that he's a very accomplished drummer.
In the end, for me, it simply comes down to the music I prefer, and Bill's very long history at the forefront of our favourite genre (which, paradoxically, is NOT a genre!)  ------------- "And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy. |
Posted By: toolis
Date Posted: November 10 2006 at 09:50
so what? does this mean that he didn't play the drums or didn't contribute to his parts? all i'm saying is that if noone told me that it was him on this album i never would have figured it out... he played in a very different style and did it really good... that's all... ------------- -music is like pornography... sometimes amateurs turn us on, even more... -sometimes you are the pigeon and sometimes you are the statue... |
Posted By: toolis
Date Posted: November 10 2006 at 09:55
Harrison? Groovy? http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=24204&KW=harrison ------------- -music is like pornography... sometimes amateurs turn us on, even more... -sometimes you are the pigeon and sometimes you are the statue... |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: November 10 2006 at 21:12
| What an embarrasing poll.... |
Posted By: markosherrera
Date Posted: November 10 2006 at 22:11
| BRUFORD |
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Date Posted: November 11 2006 at 23:15
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Portnoy for Metal and the modern approach to Prog. Bruford for everyother category of drumming.
since only 2 were pictured it was all I could vote on.
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Posted By: Prog.Sylvie
Date Posted: November 13 2006 at 00:12
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I talked to Mr.Bruford yesterday night ( 6 hours ago on the 12 th of november), at the DrumFest in Mtl. I told him that on prog.archives forum, which is a huge prog.forum, he is number one drummer. He was very happy to know that.
I was lucky. I was presented to him ,( and he was presented to me), and I have a picture taken with him. He is very nice. He gave a great performance, short but nice, powerfull and instructive. I have several pictures to show you about this DrumFest. If I have time tomorrow morning, I will post them on the appropriate thread. ------------- C'est la vie |
Posted By: OpethGuitarist
Date Posted: November 13 2006 at 01:10
I'd love to see those! ------------- back from the dead, i will begin posting reviews again and musing through the forums |
Posted By: prog4evr
Date Posted: November 14 2006 at 06:42
Is that Terry Bozzio in the reflection of Bruford's glasses? But, seriously, you are right - hands down, it is Bruford - with Bozzio an extremely close second! |
Posted By: yarstruly
Date Posted: November 14 2006 at 16:17
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Both are great along with Peart (My Fave), Palmer, Bozzio, Chad Wackerman, Alan White (Don't underestimate him!), Moon, Bonzo, Phil Ehart, etc, etc....Plenty of room at the top of this mountain! (It's a plateau, not a peak!) ------------- Facebook hashtags: #100greatestprogrockchallenge #scottssongbysong #scottsspotlight |
Posted By: scaudill
Date Posted: November 14 2006 at 16:41
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Love them both... but the 'B'man gets my vote. |
Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: November 24 2006 at 13:51
The late Pierre Moerlen is still unreached. And an excellent contender from Germany is Mani Neumeier, but of course nobody knows him. -------------  BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: echocharlie
Date Posted: November 24 2006 at 19:16
| Porthole and Bruford are not even in the same league >> |