tool vs porcupine tree
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Topic: tool vs porcupine tree
Posted By: TeniGray
Subject: tool vs porcupine tree
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 11:49
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two of the bands more creatives that i know, i preefer porcupine tree, but tool is an excellent band too...teh question is...porcupine tree or tool?
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Posted By: eugene
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 11:53
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Big NO to both
no, only kidding - I can listen to PT occasionally (Radioactive Toy live - very good) ------------- carefulwiththataxe |
Posted By: toolsofthetrade
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 12:06
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Both band's recent albums were abysmal, but tool have a stronger (although smaller) back catalogue, so tool. Porcupine tree haven't released anything to rival aenima and lateralus. ------------- Tool backwards is Loot. Best signature EVAR! Now smell my mattress! |
Posted By: Revan
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 12:16
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Porcupine is one of my fav bands of all time, but i'm much into tool at the moment. In creativity, tool does many more sig changes and it's like all instruments are following the drums, it's one of the bands in which the drums are the most important instrument. Porcupine tree is more kindly to develop keyboard textures, so they work much more with armonies. It's a total tie
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Posted By: Heff
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 12:16
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I'd have to go with Porcupine Tree. Tool is lyrically stronger, and their music is great, but they tend to always stick to the same sound. Porcupine Tree is able to play so many different styles of music and it is almost always awesome. Porcupine Tree has also released more material so there's more to appreciate. |
Posted By: dAJaro
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 12:16
except of course for Lightbulb Sun, Stupid Dream, Deadwing, The Sky Moves Sideways and In Absentia. ;) maybe its because of my distaste for most bands metal but Porcupine Tree win this contest easily for me. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/dAJaro/?chartstyle=basic10"> 
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toolsofthetrade wrote:Posted By: johnobvious
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 12:18
You forgot your winking eye emoticon because I know this is a Joke. You are saying that In Abstenia and Deadwing are abysmal? Wrong Answer. And Tool are nowhere in their league. ------------- Biggles was in rehab last Saturday |
Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 12:24
A poll in all but name I think.
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Posted By: Guzzman
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 12:30
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I really don't mind Tool, got their latest CD a couple of weeks ago, but compared to Porcupine Tree? Sorry guys, but it has to be PT!!!
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Posted By: toolsofthetrade
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 12:34
It wasn't a joke - i said deadwing is abysmal, not in absentia, which is a solid album. There is no wrong answer, and you're right, tool are nowhere in their league, because they transcended that league back in '96. ------------- Tool backwards is Loot. Best signature EVAR! Now smell my mattress! |
Posted By: Howe Protege
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 12:58
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I think are both great bands, but PT is more prog. Lateralus is better than anything PT has ever done though.
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Posted By: TRoTZ
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 13:24
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In my opinion, bands are not comparable, specially those trying to make something different in their areas, such as Tool or Porcupine Tree. Both are great bands, two of the best bands of our time. Tool, particularly, have constructed a very specific sound while Porcupine Tree have reavived the supreme sensibility in rock music, not seen in so many years, while making some original textures and mixings.
Both bands are outstanding and comparing is unfair. However, if I had to choose one of two to listen in a desert island, I would choose Porcupine Tree because the band seems not to be lacking in ideas, while Tool I have my doubts, evoked by their last album.
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Posted By: Mikerinos
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 13:36
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Porcupine Tree are one of my favorite modern bands, whereas I really don't care for Tool at all. ------------- 
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Posted By: MusicForSpeedin
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 13:45
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I don't care for tool. I don't get it...it all sounds the same. PT is amazing though. I can listen to their music and not get the feeling that I am walking in place. I feel that with tool. |
Posted By: Scapler
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 14:18
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Porcupine Tree, hands down
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 14:18
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Even though I love both bands and Tool has a smaller back catalogue I have to pick Tool(SURPRISED???). -------------  |
Posted By: Arsillus
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 14:19
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Porcupine Tree. I like Tool, but not as much as PT. |
Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 14:20
| Two completely different bands, hard to compare. I prefer Tool though. |
Posted By: toolsofthetrade
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 14:22
I would say that porcupine tree are less memorable and distinctive in their sound, and so are closer to sounding all the same, although neither's songs really do sound the same as each other. If you find tool's music sounds the same, you mustn't have a fully functioning pair of ears - yeah they have a certain pattern and style to their songs, but so do most bands - admittedly their progression has somewhat halted with the release of 10 000 days, but from opiate to lateralus their evolution was clear musically and lyrically, and they embodied the spirit of true progression (i.e expanding their sound, not just conforming to what `progressive music' is meant to be) during that period. They had more passion, drive and focus during that time than pt have ever had. btw, why is there no actual poll for this if it's in the prog polls section? or maybe my computer's playing up again ------------- Tool backwards is Loot. Best signature EVAR! Now smell my mattress! |
Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 14:31
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PT is an easy choice for me- both are talented- but I listen to far more PT than Tool. ------------- |
Posted By: MusicForSpeedin
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 14:47
You're right, my ears don't work.
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Posted By: floydisgod
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 15:41
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Comparing recent stuff, I would take Tool. Lateralus is great, and Aenima and 10,000 Days are decent too. However, if great albums like Up The Downstair or The Sky Moves Sideways count, then I'll definitely take Porcupine Tree. ------------- 
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Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 15:44
| Steve releases almost everything he has ever done - IMHO.That's why all PT albums released from 96 to 01 are INCOMPARABLE to either Aenima or Lateralus.TOOL's last one is an ALBUM OF THIS YEAR for me.I'd go with TOOL this time, but I adore them both almost equally |
Posted By: archivep
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 15:46
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It´s really funny when somebody put here really unnecessary topic and we all join it, but me too... We can compare millions of band... |
Posted By: rushaholic
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 15:51
| Tool is one of the greatest bands around. However, when compared to Porcupine Tree, they pale in comparison. PT is easily one of the top 5 bands to appear in the last 10 years. |
Posted By: laplace
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 15:51
Yep. I was just trying to work out what the two bands had in common. ------------- FREEDOM OF SPEECH GO TO HELL |
Posted By: Spacemac
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 18:33
| both are great |
Posted By: Masque
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 19:09
So where do we vote ? 
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Posted By: stupid_dreamer
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 19:48
| obviously porcupine tree |
Posted By: Fuzz
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 22:46
| PT easily. Tool is overrated, prententious and dull. It's just angsty music that teenagers listen to so that they feel bad-ass. Porcupine Tree actually has some substance and variety in their music. |
Posted By: KoS
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 22:50
| Tool, just because I'm a pretentious teenager who wants to feel bad ass. |
Posted By: progadicto
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 23:03
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IMHO Porcupine Tree discogrpahy is more consistent than Tool discography even when I enjoy their albums... For me PT is one of the best bands of the last 10-15 years and one of my fav actually... Tool is good but sounds a little repetitive for me... you can play their first or their last album and you'll find almost the same kind of songs...
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Posted By: MadcapLaughs84
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 23:35
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I refer PT, they are more versatile. ------------- 
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Posted By: toolsofthetrade
Date Posted: December 23 2006 at 08:09
The most likely cause of you finding them pretentious is that you simply don't understand many of the concepts in their music. Substance? Tool's songs can be interpreted and analysed far deeper than most of pt's music can. I can understand you finding them dull (although it's difficult seeing as a lot of pt's stuff is pyschadelic guitar noodling, which is far duller), but saying they lack substance is just plain wrong. But what do i know? I just listen to them to feel `badass'. And yes to the other person, your ears must not function properly if you literally cannot distinguish between different tool songs. ------------- Tool backwards is Loot. Best signature EVAR! Now smell my mattress! |
Posted By: Chris H
Date Posted: December 23 2006 at 08:43
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Well if you ask me, it's no contest. O popularity, it's probably 50-50 for most people here, but when it comes to the actaul music, i.e. lyrical content, arrangements, sound variations, we can all agree that Porcupine Tree has Tool licked, no contest.
Tool's music is just bottled up raw anger that comes out over a thunderclap of drums song after song, album after album, even thought I do particularly enjoy Justin Chancellor on bass.
However, Porcupine Tree always differs their sound and they always make it work for them as well. I can't think of one Porcupine Tree I don't like. (Or Own) =]
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Posted By: Fuzz
Date Posted: December 23 2006 at 10:33
Hey, you know what's funny? Tool was the band that got me into music like this. Tool was my first major band. I was obsessed with them for years. Then I woke up. I will agree that Tool's music is open to deeper analysis and interpretation than PT's music, but it doesn't matter because the hidden meanings/nuggets that Tool puts in their songs are usually really stupid and shallow anyways. Maynard and his buddies simply throws these things into their songs to make the songs appear more mysterious and complex than they really are. Watch any interview with this guy and listen to what he says about Tool and about music in general. He makes Tool out to be the greatest thing since sliced bread and he sh*ts on just about every band that doesn't play similar music to Tool. I hate Tool fans and their attitude towards music, I hate Maynard James Keenan and his pompous persona, and I hate Tool's pretentious and oftentimes boring music. It seems like they just write 4-minute hard-rock/sludge metal songs and then add a ton of stupid pointless crap to it to turn it into a 10 minute dirge. I'm sorry, but I just don't think they're anything special anymore. I'm over them and I actually feel bad for the people who go around touting Tool as the end-all be all of music. |
Posted By: Asyte2c00
Date Posted: December 23 2006 at 10:39
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I went to see PT this year.
Nearly twenty people had TOOL t-shirts on.
I would have to say Tool by a hair.
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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: December 23 2006 at 10:47
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Great rant Fuzz! It's good to see people so passionate about their music.And obviously PORCUPINE TREE and TOOL are huge in the prog world.Personally i would probably take "lateralus" over "Absentia" or "Stupid dream" although it's so close.But it isn't even close who's the better band, with way more quality music behind them...PORCUPINE TREE! ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: EliasMisael
Date Posted: December 23 2006 at 11:45
Both bands are great! In one hand we have Tool with Carey's impressive drumming and Maynard peculiar voice. But in the other side we have one of the most inventive musician in the earth: Mr. Steven Wilson, then my vote goes for PT! 
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Posted By: darkmatter
Date Posted: December 23 2006 at 12:41
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I don't think it's fair to compare these two bands... they have completely different styles if you ask me, and sound distinctly different (especially Tool, no one sounds like Tool). But if it's just a question of which band you like more, I'd choose Porcupine Tree. ...and Deadwing and 10,000 Days are most definitely NOT terrible albums, Arriving Somewhere... and 10,000 Days are two of my favorite songs! |
Posted By: Clark Ashton
Date Posted: December 23 2006 at 15:40
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IMO: Tool Sucks! That is my opinion! Tool fans are prone to flame anything against Tool. But, I don't care if you disagree with me. ------------- And he took the stars In his hands And as he scattered them he’d shout “I’m the joker of the universe I’m what it’s all about” |
Posted By: toolsofthetrade
Date Posted: December 25 2006 at 05:50
yes...tool fans are likely to disagree with people who make sweeping generalisations like `only pretentious teenagers who wanna be badass listen to tool' ... ...wow, how unusual and surprising. ------------- Tool backwards is Loot. Best signature EVAR! Now smell my mattress! |
Posted By: toolsofthetrade
Date Posted: December 25 2006 at 05:53
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what do you do then, clark, when (and if) people make sweeping generalisations about your person based on what music you like? agree with them? or just post immature, pointless stuff that doesn't contribute anything like `tool sucks'...without providing any reason why?... ------------- Tool backwards is Loot. Best signature EVAR! Now smell my mattress! |
Posted By: martinn
Date Posted: December 25 2006 at 09:45
here we go again..... 
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