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Posted By: The Lost Chord
Subject: The Ultimate Anti-War song...
Date Posted: February 13 2007 at 21:56
I have just been listening to "I Come and Stand At Every Door" the Byrds version of a fairly well known poem about the bombs dropped in world war II
I think this song is the most powerful anti-violence, war statement. the poem itself is strong, but when sung and put to such a melody, it is beyond words powerful.
Anyone have any anti-war, peace songs they feel are really powerful and send a good message?
thanks!
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Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: February 13 2007 at 22:32
I dig Peace Frog by The Doors.
I have a Dream by KC (from the ConstruKction of Light) sends a rather powerful message, without being explicitly against war; it's a rather solemn list of attrocities of the 20th century.
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: February 13 2007 at 23:37
Masters of War - Bob Dylan
Wonderful song.
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Posted By: Mikerinos
Date Posted: February 13 2007 at 23:45
Gnidrolog - I Could Never be a Soldier
sooooo emo 
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: February 13 2007 at 23:48
I was going to say that, but then I thought it's not really an anti-war song as such.
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: February 13 2007 at 23:53
Don't know if I'd say it's specifically anti-war, but I love Neil Young's 'Ohio'.
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Posted By: Flyingsod
Date Posted: February 13 2007 at 23:53
The "I feel like I'm fixin to die rag" By country Joe gets the message across and is a real classic. The humorous sarcasm is near perfect. No matter what side of the fence your on the words inflame and cause discussion... the truest aim of a protest song.
I'm also partial "War Pigs" by Black Sabbath. When I was a kid I was allowed to paint some lyrics from that one on my bedroom wall.
Another your probably not familiar with but has some of the funniest damn lyrics is "wargasm" by L7. Those chics wrote some awesome wordplay and threw in the sarcasm like country Joe.
Peace.
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Posted By: Flyingsod
Date Posted: February 14 2007 at 00:03
Atavachron wrote:
Don't know if I'd say it's specifically anti-war, but I love Neil Young's 'Ohio'. |
You mean the Song by Crosby Stills Nash and Young right? Not exactly about antiwar but definatly anti violence. The Kent state massacre about which the song was wriiten was the reslut of anti war protests so I guess you could say it's both.
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: February 14 2007 at 00:06
It's a Neil song, no two ways about it, he just happened to record it with CSNY 'cause Crosby heard and loved it.
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: February 14 2007 at 00:12
Another kind of anti-war song is Dylan's "Traveling World War III Blues", which is very much in the Woody Guthrie style.
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Posted By: MadcapLaughs84
Date Posted: February 14 2007 at 00:16
Let's Give Peace a Chance-John Lennon
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Posted By: Bryan
Date Posted: February 14 2007 at 06:02
Geck0 wrote:
Masters of War - Bob Dylan
Wonderful song.
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Correct answer.
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Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: February 14 2007 at 07:55
The eastern world it tis explodin', violence flarin', bullets loadin', you're old enough to kill but not for votin', you don't believe in war, what's that gun you're totin', and even the Jordan river has bodies floatin', but you tell me over and over and over again my friend, ah, you don't believe we're on the eve of destruction.
Don't you understand, what I'm trying to say? Can't you see the fear that I'm feeling today? If the button is pushed, there's no running away, There'll be noone to save with the world in a grave, take a look around you, boy, it's bound to scare you, boy, but you tell me over and over and over again my friend, ah, you don't believe we're on the eve of destruction.
Yeah, my blood's so mad, feels like coagulatin', I'm sittin' here, just contemplatin', I can't twist the truth, it knows no regulation, handful of Senators don't pass legislation, and marches alone can't bring integration, when human respect is disintegratin', this whole crazy world is just too frustratin', and you tell me over and over and over again my friend, ah, you don't believe we're on the eve of destruction.
Think of all the hate there is in Red China! Tehn take a look around to Selma, Alabama! Ah, you may leave here, for four days in space, but when your eturn, it's the same old place, the poundin' of the drums, th pride and disgrace, you can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace, hate your next-door-neighbour, but don't forget to say grace, and you tell me over and over and over and over again my friend, ah, you don't believe we're on the eve of destruction.
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: February 14 2007 at 07:56
Marillion- Forgotten Sons
It might be specifically about Northern Ireland but the message holds true for any conflict.
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: February 14 2007 at 07:57
Bryan wrote:
Geck0 wrote:
Masters of War - Bob DylanWonderful song.
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Absolutely - especially the version on 'Real Live'
I'd also go with Neil Young's version of 'Blowing In The Wind' on "Weld" - sheer power from one man & an overdriven Gibson Les Paul
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Posted By: andu
Date Posted: February 14 2007 at 08:01
For connaiseurs only: Grigore Lese - "Cantece de catanie" 
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: February 14 2007 at 08:04
My personal favourite is Metallica's "Disposable Heroes". On Iron Maiden's latest album there is also a great song called "Brighter Than a Thousand Suns", which was inspired by the bombing of Hiroshima.
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Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: February 14 2007 at 08:04
Bryan wrote:
Geck0 wrote:
Masters of War - Bob Dylan
Wonderful song.
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Correct answer.
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Yep. That one, and Joni Mitchell's The Fiddle and the Drum
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Posted By: Bupie
Date Posted: February 14 2007 at 08:36
Common Ground and War Heroes by IQ.
Both brilliant musically and lyrically.
Common Ground :
So the first line rose, and the first line fell And a poet who survived later wrote about A "Sunlit vision of Hell" And "Larks singing" Because after all it's just another summer's day in France And the Tommies on the Somme sang "We are fighting to turn no-man's land into a common ground"
War Heroes :
We came across the borderline To another part of town Her streets were deserted As we tore the wire down The women were screaming As we came through the door But like people used to tell me All's fair in love and war
For we are soldiers King for a day Mountains to molehills Peasants for pay People would cry If they'd seen what we've done But we'll be war heroes When we get home.
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Posted By: andu
Date Posted: February 14 2007 at 08:48
the greatest anti-war album: The Final Cut.
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Posted By: Flyingsod
Date Posted: February 14 2007 at 09:12
Atavachron wrote:
It's a Neil song, no two ways about it, he just happened to record it with CSNY 'cause Crosby heard and loved it. |
Yeah he wrote it for sure, but it was at the request of Crosby who was enraged about the event. Neil at the head for sure but it was something of a group effort. Young might not of penned it if not for the rest.
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Posted By: The Lost Chord
Date Posted: February 14 2007 at 09:46
wow yeah I forgot about The Final Cut, I really love that album too! Thanks!
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: February 14 2007 at 09:49
Magnum: Don't Wake The Lion....
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Posted By: Evans
Date Posted: February 14 2007 at 11:59
It has to be Masters of War.
Let me ask you one question
Is your money that good
Will it buy you forgiveness
Do you think that it could
I think you will find
When your death takes its toll
All the money you made
Will never buy back your soul
And the next verse is even more harsh. Other than that, i have a soft spot for "Forgotten sons"
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: February 14 2007 at 12:24
The Unknown Soldier by The Doors and Forgotton Sons (("just another coffin, labelled postumous") and Fugazi ('this is no place for children") by Marillion are very emotional and impressive anti-war songs.
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Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: February 14 2007 at 12:28
"Give Peace a Chance" by John Lennon.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: February 14 2007 at 13:32
I like Redgum's "I was Only Nineteen" --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHbR_W0eIpA - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHbR_W0eIpA It tells the story of an infantryman who becomes psychologically scarred and may suffer from the effects of exposure to Agent Orange. It was very popular with disgruntled Australian veterans of Vietnam.
From http://www.iwvpa.net/schumanj/index.php - http://www.iwvpa.net/schumanj/index.php
John ... was the lead singer of a band called
"Redgum" that had a hit in the 80's with the song "I Was Only
Nineteen". John collaborated with several Vietnam Veterans to get the
"feel" while writing the song and it became a national hit. Vietnam
Veterans "adopted" the song as a pseudo anthem for their cause. John,
though not a Vietnam Veteran himself, became widely accepted as an ally
and spokesperson in the Vietnam Veteran Community in Australia. Of
particular significance was the fact (and may be still is) that all
royalties and profits from the sale of this record went directly to the
fund set up to raise money for the Australian Vietnam Veterans'
National War Memorial in Canberra, Australia's National Capital. John
performed that song, as well as several others, in front of a large and
wildly enthusiastic, though very wet and cold, post memorial-dedication
concert crowd on October 1992 which was co-hosted by Australian singer
and Vietnam Veteran, Normie Rowe and Adrian "Good Morning Vietnam"
Cronauer. John was the only "non-veteran" entertainer to be afforded
that privilege.
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But as for ultimate song (again in a Vietnam context)... Well when I think of an anti-war song, the first one that spring to my mind is Edwin Starr's "War." "War, what is it good for? Absolutely nothing! Say it again."
Pink Floyd's "Goodbye Blue Sky" is one of my favourite songs about war-time.
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Posted By: 1800iareyay
Date Posted: February 14 2007 at 16:56
War Pigs- Black Sabbath
Disposable Heroes- Metallica
Peace Sells- Megadeth
Machine Gun- Jimi Hendrix
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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: February 14 2007 at 18:07
Anti-nuclear war tune:
Thank Christ For The Bomb: The Groundhogs Waterloo 6.02: UK Hiroshima: Todd Rundgren/Utopia
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: February 14 2007 at 18:12
Is that a lost tapes bootleg recording Dick, Waterloo 6.02 by UK ?
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Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: February 14 2007 at 18:43
Dire Straits "Brothers In Arms"
Deep Purple "Child In Time"
Uriah Heep "Pilgrim", "Lady In Black", "Come Away Melinda" (though it's written by Minkoff - Hellerman)
John Lennon "Imagine"
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: February 14 2007 at 18:53
Neil Young - Living with War Marillion - Fugazi Celine Dion - My Heart Will Go On (ok, not so much )
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Posted By: Cygnus X-2
Date Posted: February 14 2007 at 18:59
stonebeard wrote:
Marillion - Fugazi
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I would say Forgotten Sons is more Anti-War... and White Feather is also pretty Anti-War.
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Posted By: zappaholic
Date Posted: February 14 2007 at 20:04
Sabbath's "War Pigs". No contest.
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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: February 14 2007 at 20:14
Bring The Boy's Back Home expresses so much power though so little is said.
Though of course as a conservative I naturally love war and detest anti-war songs
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: February 15 2007 at 04:42
Yesterday I watched the triple DVD documentary Conquistadores, according to that you can say that Cortez The Killer by Neil Young is also an anti-war song!
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: February 15 2007 at 04:47
1800iareyay wrote:
Machine Gun- Jimi Hendrix |
Forgot-- amazing number, with Jimi's guitar mimicing automatic gunfire... absolutely classic.
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Posted By: darren
Date Posted: February 15 2007 at 05:19
Flyingsod wrote:
Atavachron wrote:
It's a Neil song, no two ways about it, he just happened to record it with CSNY 'cause Crosby heard and loved it. |
Yeah he wrote it for sure, but it was at the request of Crosby who was enraged about the event. Neil at the head for sure but it was something of a group effort. Young might not of penned it if not for the rest.
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Just for accuracy:
There's a part of a documentary, I forget the title. CSN&Y all saw the news footage of the Kent State shooting. Neil, feeling very upset, immediately went for a walk in the woods while the others started talking about how they should do something. Neil came back a while later with the song completely written. Crosby was a bit upset that it wasn't a group effort but loved the song.
The song went from being written to being recorded and released as a single in roughly a week.
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: February 15 2007 at 07:36
Jim Garten wrote:
Bryan wrote:
Geck0 wrote:
Masters of War - Bob DylanWonderful song.
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Absolutely - especially the version on 'Real Live'
I'd also go with Neil Young's version of 'Blowing In The Wind' on "Weld" - sheer power from one man & an overdriven Gibson Les Paul |
Is that the version that's on the Martin Scorcese album released last year? That is a wonderful live version.
I almost forgot: Universal Solider - Donovan (although it's written by Buffy St. Marie)
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: February 15 2007 at 09:16
"Gimme an F!" "F!" "Gimme a U!" "U!" "Gimme a C!" "C!" "Gimme a K!" "K!" "What's that spelled?" "&%$§!" "What's that spelled?" "&%$§!" "What's that spelled?" "&%$§".
"Well, come on you guys and big strong men,
Uncle Sam needs your help again.
He's got himself in a terrible jam
Way down yonder in Vietnam
So put down your books and pick up a gun,
We're gonna have a whole lotta fun.
And it's one, two, three,
What are we fighting for ?
Don't ask me, I don't give a damn,
Next stop is Vietnam;
And it's five, six, seven,
Open up the pearly gates,
Well there ain't no time to wonder why,
Whoopee! we're all gonna die.
Come on Wall Street, don't be slow,
Why man, this is war au-go-go
There's plenty good money to be made
By supplying the Army with the tools of its trade,
But just hope and pray that if they drop the bomb,
They drop it on the Viet Cong.
And it's one, two, three,
What are we fighting for ?
Don't ask me, I don't give a damn,
Next stop is Vietnam.
And it's five, six, seven,
Open up the pearly gates,
Well there ain't no time to wonder why
Whoopee! we're all gonna die.
Well, come on generals, let's move fast;
Your big chance has come at last.
Now you can go out and get those reds
'Cause the only good commie is the one that's dead
And you know that peace can only be won
When we've blown 'em all to kingdom come.
And it's one, two, three,
What are we fighting for ?
Don't ask me, I don't give a damn,
Next stop is Vietnam;
And it's five, six, seven,
Open up the pearly gates,
Well there ain't no time to wonder why
Whoopee! we're all gonna die.
Come on mothers throughout the land,
Pack your boys off to Vietnam.
Come on fathers, and don't hesitate
To send your sons off before it's too late.
And you can be the first ones in your block
To have your boy come home in a box.
And it's one, two, three
What are we fighting for ?
Don't ask me, I don't give a damn,
Next stop is Vietnam.
And it's five, six, seven,
Open up the pearly gates,
Well there ain't no time to wonder why,
Whoopee! we're all gonna die.
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: February 15 2007 at 09:48
well, since Friede stole the contribution from the country I grew up in, I will provide a contribution from her country. it is "Die Legende vom toten Soldaten" ("he Legend of the Dead Soldier") by Bertolt Brecht (lyrics) and Kurt Weill (music). unfortunately I couldn't find an online translation. the song is about a dead soldier being dug up again because he is needed for the war.
Und als der Krieg im vierten Lenz
Keinen Ausblick auf Frieden bot
Da zog der Soldat seine Konsequenz
Und starb den Heldentod.
Der Krieg war aber noch nicht gar
Drum tat es dem Kaiser leid
Daß sein Soldat gestorben war:
Es schien ihm noch vor der Zeit.
Der Sommer zog über die Gräber her
Und der Soldat schlief schon
Da kam eines Nachts eine militär-
ische ärztliche Kommission.
Es zog die ärztliche Kommission
Zum Gottesacker hinaus
Und grub mit geweihtem Spaten den
Gefallnen Soldaten aus.
Der Doktor besah den Soldaten genau
Oder was von ihm noch da war
Und der Doktor fand, der Soldat war k. v.
Und er drückte sich vor der Gefahr.
Und sie nahmen sogleich den Soldaten mit
Die Nacht war blau und schön.
Man konnte, wenn man keinen Helm aufhatte
Die Sterne der Heimat sehn.
Sie schütteten ihm einen feurigen Schnaps
In den verwesten Leib
Und hängten zwei Schwestern in seinen Arm
Und ein halb entblößtes Weib.
Und weil der Soldat nach Verwesung stinkt
Drum hinkt ein Pfaffe voran
Der über ihn ein Weihrauchfaß schwingt
Daß er nicht stinken kann.
Voran die Musik mit Tschindrara
Spielt einen flotten Marsch.
Und der Soldat, so wie er's gelernt
Schmeißt seine Beine vom Arsch.
Und brüderlich den Arm um ihn
Zwei Sanitäter gehn
Sonst flög er noch in den Dreck ihnen hin
Und das darf nicht geschehn.
Sie malten auf sein Leichenhemd
Die Farben Schwarz-Weiß-Rot
Und trugen's vor ihm her; man sah
Vor Farben nicht mehr den Kot.
Ein Herr im Frack schritt auch voran
Mit einer gestärkten Brust
Der war sich als ein deutscher Mann
Seiner Pflicht genau bewußt.
So zogen sie mit Tschindrara
Hinab die dunkle Chaussee
Und der Soldat zog taumelnd mit
Wie im Sturm die Flocke Schnee.
Die Katzen und die Hunde schrein
Die Ratzen im Feld pfeifen wüst:
Sie wollen nicht französisch sein
Weil das eine Schande ist.
Und wenn sie durch die Dörfer ziehn
Waren alle Weiber da
Die Bäume verneigten sich, Vollmond schien
Und alles schrie hurra.
Mit Tschindrara und Wiedersehn!
Und Weib und Hund und Pfaff!
Und mitten drin der tote Soldat
Wie ein besoffner Aff'.
Und wenn sie durch die Dörfer ziehn
Kommt's, daß ihn keiner sah
Soviele waren herum um ihn
Mit Tschindra und Hurra.
So viele tanzten und johlten um ihn
Daß ihn keiner sah.
Man konnte ihn einzig von oben noch sehn
Und da sind nur Sterne da.
Die Sterne sind nicht immer da
Es kommt ein Morgenrot.
Doch der Soldat, so wie er's gelernt
Zieht in den Heldentod.
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: February 15 2007 at 10:27
Ah yes, I remember that from the Woodstock Festival footage I've seen.
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Posted By: Chicapah
Date Posted: February 15 2007 at 11:20
Dylan's "With God on our Side" is a classic.
I love Porcupine Tree's "A Smart Kid" on Stupid Dream, too. One sole survivor left on earth following a "chemical harvest." Chilling.
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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: February 15 2007 at 12:13
erik neuteboom wrote:
Is that a lost tapes bootleg recording Dick, Waterloo 6.02 by UK ? |
Sorry Erik I'm missing the point????? No the Danger Money version. Actually the lyrics really clicked home driving down London's Park Lane one Sunday afternoon c1980, with a cassette copy (take from my LP) in the car player
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Posted By: cuncuna
Date Posted: February 15 2007 at 12:18
BaldJean wrote:
well, since Friede stole the contribution from the country I grew up in, I will provide a contribution from her country. it is "Die Legende vom toten Soldaten" ("he Legend of the Dead Soldier") by Bertolt Brecht (lyrics) and Kurt Weill (music). unfortunately I couldn't find an online translation. the song is about a dead soldier being dug up again because he is needed for the war.<div id="contentarea">
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I absolutely love Kurt Weill's music. Sadly, I haven't been able to find those lyrics translated into some language I can read, but, given the awsome musical work, those lyrics must be worthy of reading. ¿Would you please try to translate at least one song?. ¿Please?. I can trade it for a translation of a beautiful chilean song from band extraordinaire "Congreso", from their "Clay birds" album. You won't regret it, that song "Clay birds" has that cristal clear overwhelming beauty that leaves you with shivers running down your back.
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Posted By: cuncuna
Date Posted: February 15 2007 at 12:19
As for the topic, I would point Art Bears "Martyr's song" as a favourite of mine.
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Posted By: Rottenhat
Date Posted: February 15 2007 at 12:36
"I Come and Stand At Every Door" as you name it "Lost Chord" is an awesome piece of music. Have you heard the version by "This Mortal Coil"
The piece always gets me crying like a little baby. If I play this song the tears will come out of me like a fountain.
No piece of music could move me as much as this.
Thank you for bringing up a good thread, Lost chord.
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: February 15 2007 at 13:09
cuncuna wrote:
BaldJean wrote:
well, since Friede stole the contribution from the country I grew up in, I will provide a contribution from her country. it is "Die Legende vom toten Soldaten" ("he Legend of the Dead Soldier") by Bertolt Brecht (lyrics) and Kurt Weill (music). unfortunately I couldn't find an online translation. the song is about a dead soldier being dug up again because he is needed for the war.<div id="contentarea">
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I absolutely love Kurt Weill's music. Sadly, I haven't been able to find those lyrics translated into some language I can read, but, given the awsome musical work, those lyrics must be worthy of reading. ¿Would you please try to translate at least one song?. ¿Please?. I can trade it for a translation of a beautiful chilean song from band extraordinaire "Congreso", from their "Clay birds" album. You won't regret it, that song "Clay birds" has that cristal clear overwhelming beauty that leaves you with shivers running down your back. |
Ok, I will translate the song Jean posted.
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: February 15 2007 at 14:03
Ok, here the translation of the song Jean posted. I will post a German verse followed by the translation, then continue the same way, instead of posting the whole translation after the poem; that way one can see which verse the translation belongs to more clearly.
Und als der Krieg im vierten Lenz
Keinen Ausblick auf Frieden bot
Da zog der Soldat seine Konsequenz
Und starb den Heldentod. And when the war was in the fourth spring and still no sign of peace, the soldier drew the consequence and died the death of heroes.
Der Krieg war aber noch nicht gar
Drum tat es dem Kaiser leid
Daß sein Soldat gestorben war:
Es schien ihm noch vor der Zeit. But war was not over yet and the Kaiser felt sorry that his soldier had died; It seemed to him he had died before his time.
Der Sommer zog über die Gräber her
Und der Soldat schlief schon
Da kam eines Nachts eine militär-
ische ärztliche Kommission. The summer went over the graves and the soldier already slept. Then one night a committee of military doctors appeared.
Es zog die ärztliche Kommission
Zum Gottesacker hinaus
Und grub mit geweihtem Spaten den
Gefallnen Soldaten aus. The doctor's committee went out to the cemetery and dug up the fallen soldier with a sanctified spade.
Der Doktor besah den Soldaten genau
Oder was von ihm noch da war
Und der Doktor fand, der Soldat war k. v.
Und er drückte sich vor der Gefahr. The doctor looked closely at the soldier or at what was left of him, and concluded he could still be used for war and was only hiding from danger.
Und sie nahmen sogleich den Soldaten mit
Die Nacht war blau und schön.
Man konnte, wenn man keinen Helm aufhatte
Die Sterne der Heimat sehn. And they took the soldier away with them, the night was blue and fine. If you didn't wear a helmet, you could see the stars of home.
Sie schütteten ihm einen feurigen Schnaps
In den verwesten Leib
Und hängten zwei Schwestern in seinen Arm
Und ein halb entblößtes Weib. They poured a fiery schnapps into his decayed corpse, and hung two sisters into his arms and a half-naked woman.
Und weil der Soldat nach Verwesung stinkt
Drum hinkt ein Pfaffe voran
Der über ihn ein Weihrauchfaß schwingt
Daß er nicht stinken kann. And since the soldier reeks of decay, a cleric limps in front and waves a thurible over his body so he cannot stink.
Voran die Musik mit Tschindrara
Spielt einen flotten Marsch.
Und der Soldat, so wie er's gelernt
Schmeißt seine Beine vom Arsch. The music ahead with boom-di-boom plays a jaunty march, and the soldier, like he was drilled to, throws his legs in the air.
Und brüderlich den Arm um ihn
Zwei Sanitäter gehn
Sonst flög er noch in den Dreck ihnen hin
Und das darf nicht geschehn. And two paramedics walk with him and lend him their brotherly arms, else he would fall into the dirt, and that must noit happen.
Sie malten auf sein Leichenhemd
Die Farben Schwarz-Weiß-Rot
Und trugen's vor ihm her; man sah
Vor Farben nicht mehr den Kot. And upon his shroud they paint the colours black-red-gold (remark: colours of the German national flag) and carry it in front; one couldn't see the dirt because of the colours
Ein Herr im Frack schritt auch voran
Mit einer gestärkten Brust
Der war sich als ein deutscher Mann
Seiner Pflicht genau bewußt. A man in a tailcoat also walked in front with a starched collar. As a German man he was very aware of his duty.
So zogen sie mit Tschindrara
Hinab die dunkle Chaussee
Und der Soldat zog taumelnd mit
Wie im Sturm die Flocke Schnee. And so they went with boom-di-boom down the dark avenue, and the soldier stumbled with them like a flake of snow in the wind.
Die Katzen und die Hunde schrein
Die Ratzen im Feld pfeifen wüst:
Sie wollen nicht französisch sein
Weil das eine Schande ist. The cats and the dogs shout, the rats in the fields fiercely whistle. They don't want to be French (meaning: of enemy nationality) because that's a shame.
Und wenn sie durch die Dörfer ziehn
Waren alle Weiber da
Die Bäume verneigten sich, Vollmond schien
Und alles schrie hurra. And as they marched though the villages all the women were there. The trees bowed down, the full moon shone, and everyone shouted hooray.
Mit Tschindrara und Wiedersehn!
Und Weib und Hund und Pfaff!
Und mitten drin der tote Soldat
Wie ein besoffner Aff'. With boom-di-boom and fare-the-well and woman and dog and cleric, and in their midst the dead soldier like a drunken ape.
Und wenn sie durch die Dörfer ziehn
Kommt's, daß ihn keiner sah
Soviele waren herum um ihn
Mit Tschindra und Hurra. And as they marched through the villages, it happened that nobody saw him. Too many people were around him, with boom-di-boom and hooray.
So viele tanzten und johlten um ihn
Daß ihn keiner sah.
Man konnte ihn einzig von oben noch sehn
Und da sind nur Sterne da. So many danced and jeered around him that nobody saw him at all. You could only see him from above, and there were only stars.
Die Sterne sind nicht immer da
Es kommt ein Morgenrot.
Doch der Soldat, so wie er's gelernt
Zieht in den Heldentod.
The stars, they are not always there, there will be a dawn; but the soldier, as he was drilled to, marches into his death of heroes.
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BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue.
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Posted By: tdbark
Date Posted: February 15 2007 at 14:12
LIVES IN THE BALANCE
I've been waiting for something to happen For a week or a month or a year With the blood in the ink of the headlines And the sound of the crowd in my ear You might ask what it takes to remember When you know that you've seen it before Where a government lies to a people And a country is drifting to war
And there's a shadow on the faces Of the men who send the guns To the wars that are fought in places Where their business interest runs
On the radio talk shows and the T.V. You hear one thing again and again How the U.S.A. stands for freedom And we come to the aid of a friend But who are the ones that we call our friends-- These governments killing their own? Or the people who finally can't take any more And they pick up a gun or a brick or a stone There are lives in the balance There are people under fire There are children at the cannons And there is blood on the wire
There's a shadow on the faces Of the men who fan the flames Of the wars that are fought in places Where we can't even say the names
They sell us the President the same way They sell us our clothes and our cars They sell us every thing from youth to religion The same time they sell us our wars I want to know who the men in the shadows are I want to hear somebody asking them why They can be counted on to tell us who our enemies are But they're never the ones to fight or to die And there are lives in the balance There are people under fire There are children at the cannons And there is blood on the wire
That is one of my favorites.... Others include:
Blowin' in the Wind
Eve Of Destruction
War Pigs
Two Suns in the Sunset
Ohio
Fortunate Son
Us and Them
Them and Us (Don Henley)
Imagine and Give Peace a Chance
One (Metallica)
There are more but these come first to mind.
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are twenty men
crossing twenty bridges
into twenty villages.
Wallace Stevens
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Posted By: The Lost Chord
Date Posted: February 15 2007 at 14:39
Glad you enjoy it as much, Rottenhat!
The song always makes me shiver, the melody they put to the lyrics of the poem is just brilliant...it really makes for an extremely emotional experience.
When children die, they do not grow...
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"Only the sun knew why"
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Posted By: cuncuna
Date Posted: February 16 2007 at 09:36
BaldFriede wrote:
Ok, here the translation of the song Jean posted. I will post a German verse followed by the translation, then continue the same way, instead of posting the whole translation after the poem; that way one can see which verse the translation belongs to more clearly. |
Thank you.
Now, I'll do my part. The only thing is, I'm not sure if this is the best translation possible, but it's close enough.
"Pájaros de Arcilla" (Birds of clay)
La vestimenta ósea de la calle
se vestirá de pájaros de arcilla
quien corre y hacia dónde esta mañana
quien cambiará el brocal del cielo inmenso
The osseus surface of the street
will dress with birds of clay
who's running and were this morning?
who will change the border of the vast sky?
Metálicas palabras, versos muertos
levantan los andamios, limpian cauces
quien corre y hacia donde esta mañana
quien cambiará el brocaldel cielo inmenso
Metalic words, dead verses
rise the scaffoldings, clean the channels
who's running and were this morning?
who will change the border of the vast sky?
Y allá en las altas copas florecidas
vuelvo a escuchar tu canto hermano mio
And there, in the high bloomed tops
I hear your song again, my brother
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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: February 16 2007 at 14:06
Dick Heath wrote:
erik neuteboom wrote:
Is that a lost tapes bootleg recording Dick, Waterloo 6.02 by UK ? |
Sorry Erik I'm missing the point????? No the Danger Money version. Actually the lyrics really clicked home driving down London's Park Lane one Sunday afternoon c1980, with a cassette copy (take from my LP) in the car player |
Silly me: Rendezvous 6.02 - in which Waterloo was no more............... (comes from my habit singing certain tunes to myself and coming up with lyrics I more prefer; who did the original version of Fish Like Tuna?? - nothing to do with Man)
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Posted By: Flyingsod
Date Posted: February 16 2007 at 23:28
BaldFriede wrote:
"Gimme an F!" "F!" "Gimme a U!" "U!" "Gimme a C!" "C!" "Gimme a K!" "K!" "What's that spelled?" "&%$§!" "What's that spelled?" "&%$§!" "What's that spelled?" "&%$§".
"Well, come on you guys and big strong men,
Uncle Sam needs your help again.
He's got himself in a terrible jam
Way down yonder in Vietnam
So put down your books and pick up a gun,
We're gonna have a whole lotta fun.......
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That's "The Fixin to Die Rag" by Country Joe Mcdonald I was talking about in case anyone was interested in the title. "Be the first ones on your block to have your boy come home in a box" man is that poignant sarcasm or what!
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Posted By: Flyingsod
Date Posted: February 16 2007 at 23:35
BaldFriede wrote:
Ok, here the translation of the song Jean posted. I will post a German verse followed by the translation, |
Thanks for work on that. What a sarcastic allegory for what govts do to thier populace for the sake of war. Very deep and intelligent.
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Posted By: JayDee
Date Posted: February 18 2007 at 04:27
Iron Maiden's The Trooper is a very memorable song telling of the futility of war. Most of Iron Maiden's albums have "war songs" included on them.
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