Your ultimate Seventies Italian Prog moment!
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Topic: Your ultimate Seventies Italian Prog moment!
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Subject: Your ultimate Seventies Italian Prog moment!
Date Posted: June 26 2007 at 17:48
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Hello fellow Italian progheads.
This evening I was listening to Le Orme their wonderful album Felona E Sorona, for the perhaps 101st time I was blown away by the closing section featuring the ominous Hammond organ runs, the propulsive rhythm-section and the sensational Minimoog flights, culminating in a bombastic and very compelling progrock experience. Then I wondered or this is my ultimate Seventies Italian Prog moment? Or perhaps the closing section of Museo Rosenbach during the closing section of Zarathustra delivering a cascade of bombastic, Mellotron drenched eruptions? Or perhaps the middle section of Banco their composition R.P.I. with the beautiful, very sensitive piano play and the moving, very dramatic vocals by Francesco Di Giacomo, also culminating in just another great Seventies Italian Prog moment with the perfect balance between emotion and skills
 ?OK, finally I choose for ..... Museo Rosenbach, the decisive factor became the mindblowing appearance of the unsurpassed Mellotron
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 Now I am curious to your ultimate Seventies Italian Prog moment
and don't hesitate to describe your opinions and emotions
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Posted By: Mandrakeroot
Date Posted: June 26 2007 at 18:40
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Probably, because are the first songs of the Italian Prog that I've listen: Le Orme : Collage (4:42) Era inverno (5:00) Cemento armato (8:08) Sguardo verso il cielo (4:12) Una dolcezza nuova (5:28) Gioco di bimba (2:54) Figure di cartone (3:48) Aspettando l'alba (4:43) PFM: Impressioni di Settembre (5:44) E' Festa (4:52) Dove... Quando... (Parte I) (4:08) Dove... Quando... (Parte II) (6:00) La Carrozza di Hans (6:46) Celebration (3:50) L'Isola di Niente (10:42) Dolcissima Maria (4:01) Banco del Mutuo Soccorso: 1. In Volo (2:13) 2. R.I.P. (Requiescant In Pace) (6:40) 3. Passaggio (1:19) 4. Metamorfosi (10:52) 5. Il Giardino Del Mago (18:26) - a. ... Passo Dopo Passo ... - b. ... Chi Ride E Chi Geme ... - c. ... Coi Capelli Sciolti Al Vento ... - d. Compenetrazione 6. Traccia (2:10) Rovescio Della Medaglia: 1. Il Nulla (4:56) 2. La Creazione (5:17) 3. L'Ammonimento (5:19) 4. Sodoma E Gomorra (4:51) 5. Il Giudizio (10:15) 6. Il Diluvio (2:14) 1. Absent for this consumend World (1:05) 2. Ora non ricordo piu (1:47) 3. Il suono del silenzio (5:16) 4. Mi sono svegliato e..ho chiuso gli occhi (4:19) 5. Lei sei tu: Lei (2:04) 6. La mia musica (4:10) 7. Johann (1:23) 8. Scotland Machine (3:06) 9. Cella 503 (3:18) 10. Contaminazione 1760 (1:04) 11. Alzo un muro elettrico (2:55) 12. Sweet Suite (2:17) 13. La grande fuga (3:42) Biglietto Per L'Inferno: 1. Ansia (4:16) 2. Confessione (6:32) 3. Una Strana Regina (6:12) 4. Il Nevare (4:37) 5. L'Amico Suicida (13:20) 6. Confessione (strumentale) (3:32) Franco Battiato: 1. Summer On A Solitary Beach 2. Bandiera Bianca 3. Gli Uccelli 4. Cuccurucucu 5. Segnali Di Vita 6. Centro Di Gravità Permanente 7. Sentimento Nuevo The Trip: 1. Rhapsodia (20:02) 2. Formula Nova (4:53) 3. De Sensibus (4:12) 4. Corale (5:28) 5. Ad Libitum (4:29) Formula 3: 1. Dies irae (7:39) 2. Non è Francesca (3:37) 3. Perché… Perché ti amo (6:07) 4. Questo folle sentimento (introduzione) (1:05) 5. Questo folle sentimento (seconda parte) (2:19) 6. Walk Away Renee (4:30) 7. Se non è amore cos’è (5:11) 8. Sole giallo, sole nero (7:10) Delirium: Favola o storia del Lago di Kriss (Libertà) (4:22) Jesahel (4:05) (Performed by Ivano Fosati & Alberto Radius and his TV orchestra in "Una Rotonda Sul Mare 2" Italian Commercial TV early 90's!!!) ------------- 
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: June 26 2007 at 18:49
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E tutto comincio con ...........Mandrakeroot
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Posted By: Moekk
Date Posted: June 26 2007 at 19:41
| PROVA prova pensare un peu diversi !! ^^ |
Posted By: shanocles
Date Posted: June 26 2007 at 23:28
YES, YES, YES!!
i was just listening to Le Orme on the ride home from work the other day and thought the exact same about this album. it is SOOOOOOO epic ... it's definitely up there for greatest italian prog album (or greatest end to a prog album anyway!)
zara thrusta on the other hand doesn't really do it for me. don't get me wrong it's great 'n all but it aint no Felona
 keep up the ital-prog appreciation people! ------------- if left is wrong i don't wanna be right... 
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erik neuteboom wrote:Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 27 2007 at 02:48
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my ultimate 70's prog moment....easy... the section of Balletto di Bronzo's Introduzione where the dramatic buildup of the organ and guitar climaxes into that majestic mellotron.... wow... still a hair raising musical moment after hundreds of listens. nice topic Erik. |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: June 27 2007 at 06:09
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What a pity that the album Ys is so complex, I have done my best to get into it, some parts are awesome (indeed, like Introduzione) but it fails to carry me away, it doesn't flow for me About Museo Rosenbach their album Zarathustra, it seems to evoke mixed opinions, not everybody get goose bumps like me while listening to those mindblowing Mellotron drenched eruptions |
Posted By: Andrea Cortese
Date Posted: June 27 2007 at 06:41
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My ultimate prog rock moment with...Le Orme was the last march during Le Orme live show!
Erik, believe me, when they played the closer part of Felona e Sorona (Ritornoo al Nulla) I was completely blown away...majestic and powerful! even better than the album version!
 My ultimate moment from a studio album:
probably in the first part of the second track of Sun Supreme by Ibis when the delicate acoustic atmosphere of the opener suddenly erupts in magnificient strong and dynamic drumming and fiery electric guitar mixed with exciting keyboards' run. Wonderful!
Then also: the opener of Celestion by Riccardo Zappa titled "Frammenti". When his wonderful acoustic ovation guitar seems to scream like the bagpipes!!! Impressive. Erik, you must try this one!
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 27 2007 at 08:00
I know Erik...Ys can be a bit overwhelming.. not just the complexity.. up through Epilogo and the very extended atmospheric section anchored by that 7 note bass pattern (didn't you love how Ars Nova NAILED that track on that Keyboard album you recommended to me) it is like being beat over the head continuously with a 2x4. Not only is it a dark..complex album.. it is unrelentling aggressive and harsh. I love it.... but it's not for everyone. I'm with you as well on Zarathrustra.... those Mellotron eruptions are just god sent. They do bring out the goose bumps indeed hahha. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 27 2007 at 08:05
I couldn't agree more...though I was in estacy when they ran through side 1 of Uomo di Pezza... I was completely blown away with Ritornoo al Nulla. |
Posted By: Mandrakeroot
Date Posted: June 27 2007 at 08:32
And to think that in this it list I omitted: Formula 3: 1. Nessuno nessuno (11:01) 2. Tu sei bianca, sei rosa, mi perderò (4:16) 3. Vendo casa (2:55) 4. Eppur mi son scordato di te (3:38) 5. Un papavero (4:01) 6. Il vento (4:47) 7. Mi chiamo Antonio tal dei tali e lavoro ai mercati generali (5:51) Perigeo: 1. La Valle dei Templi (6:12) 2. Un Cerchio Giallo (4:28) 3. (In)vino Veritas (6:45) 4. Take Off (3:37) 5. Nadir (3:45) 6. 36° Parallelo (9:44) Biglietto per l'inferno (P.s.: in this list because recorded in 70's!!!): 1. Il Tempo Della Semina (10:13) 2. Mente Sola - Mente (2:55) 3. Viva Lotta Pensa (3:15) 4. L'arte Sublime Di Un Giusto Regnare (3:17) 5. Solo Ma Vivo (6:27) 6. La Canzone Del Padre (9:34) Osanna: 1. Introduzione (3:26) 2. L'uomo (3:34) 3. Mirror Train (4:56) 4. Non sei vissuto mai (6:00) 5. Vado verso una meta (3:15) 6. In un vecchio cieco (3:31) 7. L'amore vincerà di nuovo (6:13) 8. Everybody's Gonna See You Die (3:04) 9. Lady Power (3:56) I think that these are my absolute for always Seventies Italian Prog moments!!! -------------
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Posted By: paolo.beenees
Date Posted: June 27 2007 at 08:36
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...And still "La Fabbricante D'Angeli" by Le Orme can move me to tears... ------------- 
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Posted By: Mandrakeroot
Date Posted: June 27 2007 at 08:42
E tutto comincio con ........... Alberto Radius and Formula 3 in a show in a Italian commercial TV in early 90's (where with its TV orchestra and the Formula 3 played "Non è Francesca") and Ivano Fossati's solo version of "Jesahel"!!!  -------------
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Posted By: Apsalar
Date Posted: June 27 2007 at 08:52
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I cannot narrow this down to one. So here are three
Firstly: L'evikuzione, from Darwin! The first ever italian prog song I was to hear. I brought the album on my trip to Italy. The whole song still captivates me like it did the first time. Secondly: I will reiterate micky's post.
And Third: Picchio dal Pozzo - Seppia. Two section of this song really touch me personally. In the frist section which pinnacles drench in spacy atmospheres, compliment by high pitched vocals. Then in the concluding section, with the italian [child?] speaking a short monolog. |
Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: June 27 2007 at 08:54
| Yes, "Sepia" is really wonderful. |
Posted By: Mandrakeroot
Date Posted: June 27 2007 at 09:53
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Andrea Cortese wrote: " My ultimate prog rock moment with...Le Orme was the last march during Le Orme live show!" I answer: " Yes, it's true. Bu probably the next It will be july 25 to Pordenone... Summer garden Fair... Franco Battiato in concert!!!" -------------
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Posted By: Paulieg
Date Posted: June 27 2007 at 10:08
| I'd have to say the entire Darwin album by Banco. When I first heard this release I was forever to be hooked on Italian prog. Between Di Giacomo's operatic vocals and the Nocenzi brothers keyboards I was blown away. Nothing beats the Italians sense of melody. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 27 2007 at 11:25
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Mandy writes: " Yes, it's true. Bu probably the next It will be july 25 to Pordenone... Summer garden Fair... Franco Battiato in concert!!!" micky writes:  I know, that's my birthday too.... and three days later he's in Rome..... good thing I have a damn good reason for missing those shows hahhhaha.
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Posted By: infandous
Date Posted: June 27 2007 at 11:34
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For me it's very easy: Banco live at Nearfest in 2001. Most incredible prog concert I've ever seen in my life. Incredible emotion, skill, and material. Of course, it was also the first time I ever heard any Italian prog. But Banco is still my favorite. Their first 3 albums are fantastic. Another is PFM, with the first few albums being great, and they also had a wonderful like show at the Progressive Rock Showcase (Friday night before Nearfest) in 2005. But I also like just about everything else that others have commented on here (Ys is a fantastic, wonderful album.......very much the darker side of Italian prog). On a more recent note, La Maschera Di Cera put on an inspiring performance at Nearfest on Sunday (they performed the entire LuxAde album). It was nice to see so many people coming up to them the rest of the day and praising their performance. Really nice bunch of guys also. (I know, not 70's, but since we're talking Italian prog and the performance is still fresh in my mind, I had to bring it up) |
Posted By: Mandrakeroot
Date Posted: June 27 2007 at 12:20
What it is excellent it is that from the train station of Pordenone to the fair of Pordenone in 5 minute on foot us arrivals very well!!! -------------
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Posted By: arcer
Date Posted: June 27 2007 at 13:27
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4:24 into Maxophone's superb C'e Una Paese Al Mondo when the organ arrives hearlding the wonderful coda to the song - great guitar soloing, great vocals, great chord. 2:13 into PFM's awesome L'Isola Di Niente. The choirs stop and those huge chords kick in setting out the intent in the most emphatic fashion: this is going to be big! 5:02 into PFM's brilliant La Conquista from the brilliant Stati Di Immagionazione when the incendairy violin solo gives way to that monosynth solo which just ... takes off. A jaw-dropping return to form. Just a few, there are so many more.... |
Posted By: aprusso
Date Posted: June 27 2007 at 13:38
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Osanna.... "oro caldo"
the "falso giusto giusto falso" section followed by a mellotron solo
gives me the shivers the 1956th time I listen to it
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 27 2007 at 13:44
there were so many on Palepoli I can't choose... that's why it's my number 1 favorite prog album hahha. I know the exact part you are talking about.... I love that part as well. Probably my number two behind Introduzioine... the opening to Biglietto per L'inferno's L'amico suicida. Have hit repeat so many times just to hear that intro.... fits the song perfectly |
Posted By: aprusso
Date Posted: June 27 2007 at 13:50
Erik, you gave me the idea. After reading your post, I went to the living room and put on Felona & Sorona at a DISGUSTING volume. I'm having an orgasm. My neighbouring are looking out of their windows wondering what's happening. The police will probably come in a few minutes.
Thanks for saving my evening,
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 27 2007 at 14:50
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Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: June 27 2007 at 15:41
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Introduction due to Gianni´s scary vocals, and Epilogo due to the piano, i am talking about Ys, you know. The final soft mellotron sound on Principe di un Giorno or the las 3 minutes of Forse le Lucciole non si Amano piu, there are several moments in several songs that excites me.
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: June 27 2007 at 15:42
Aprusso  please don't tell my wife I am causing orgasms on Prog Archives, she's a bit jealous type or shall we talk about eargasms  ?!
By the way, I am glad with the posts this evening, when I woke up this morning only 5 posts
 but in the end the Italian progheads woke up too My planned Italian Seventies Prog 'eargasm' for this evening after my late shift:
Rustichelli & Bordini - Opera Prima
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 27 2007 at 15:47
Andrea C. got me hooked on that.. on the way to see Le Orme. Love that album |
Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: June 27 2007 at 15:50
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The vocals on 750,000 Anni Fa... L'amore? without a doubt. -------------  <font color=white>butts, lol[/COLOR] |
Posted By: Mandrakeroot
Date Posted: June 27 2007 at 15:52
My ultimate seventies Italian Prog Moment... Uhm... Even if it includes a longer arc of time is surely this:
  
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Posted By: glass house
Date Posted: June 27 2007 at 17:29
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Just as Erik I just love R.I.P. by Banco. Wonderful song all the way through.
Not just songs but whole albums: Felona e Sorona, Darwin!, Per Un Amigo and Dedicato a Frazz.
I.ve got an issue with one song though; the titetrack L'Isola Di Niente. For me it is totally demolished by the choir bits. They ruin a perfect song!! Anyone else has the same feeling?
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Posted By: Marcos
Date Posted: June 27 2007 at 17:32
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I'm listening to PFM - Per un amico... I'm from Argentina, but my family is from Italy. I'm glad because of Italian Symphonic rock. ------------- www.postmortemweb.com.ar |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: June 27 2007 at 18:04
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Glass House, you have problems with the choir bits in L'Isola Di Niente? I don't have, I love those bombastic eruptions, in fact for me it's never too bombastic !
Tony R (Mr. Maniac Moderator) has also Italian family roots, I expect a contribution in this thread very soon, otherwise I will get his attention in another way
 !I am just back from my late shift and, inspired by this thread, I took a look at my Italian prog section, after a few minutes I decided to enjoy Uomo Di Pezza by Le Orme, to me they sounds like "ELP with emotion" in those days, great vintage keyboards sound, especially in the short but very compelling track Breve Immagine featuring goose bumps heavy violin-Mellotron eruptions
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Posted By: Paulieg
Date Posted: June 27 2007 at 18:41
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Posted By: IVNORD
Date Posted: June 27 2007 at 22:01
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Area - Maledetti
Banco - Io Sono Nato Libero
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 28 2007 at 01:06
nope hahhah It is what really sucked me in so to speak. |
Posted By: Mandrakeroot
Date Posted: June 28 2007 at 05:55
Yesterday I had a best surprise. I listened to these gods CD to do the reviews:
I should say that it was much time that I didn't listen to them so well. But the surprise of their discovery satisfied me... I would say... It distorted me. In positive!!! -------------
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: June 29 2007 at 13:39
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This evening I will have a listening with Cherry Five their eponymous debut album, one of the overlooked Seventies Italian Progrock bands featuring lots of great moments, often with the unsurpassed Mellotron
By the way, I just made a review for the homepage because my previous effort is disappeared while I had added Cherry Five to this site
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 29 2007 at 15:14
I saw your review.... good job Great mellotrons for sure!------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Marcos
Date Posted: June 29 2007 at 16:30
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Hi Erik, what does "eponymous" mean?
I looked for that word but I couldn't find it.... ------------- www.postmortemweb.com.ar |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: June 29 2007 at 16:36
Well Marcos, in my opinion it means self-titled, once upon a time I read this word in a progrock mail-order service and I still like it Espero he dado un explicacion claro para ti 
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Posted By: Marcos
Date Posted: June 29 2007 at 16:40
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Yes, thanks! I understood it... Wow! you can speak in spanish,... well done! ------------- www.postmortemweb.com.ar |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: June 29 2007 at 16:48
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Marcos, I have learned some Spanish on school, I love flamenco and my wife is from Aruba where they speak Papiamentu, very similar to Spanish. Once I hope to have time to learn more Spanish.
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Posted By: progbaby
Date Posted: July 03 2007 at 10:23
Hi:
You think exactly like me. ALL of what you mentioned above hits it for me...
I'd like to throw a few more in...
Locanda Delle Fate
Alusa Fallax
Quella Vecchia Locanda.
RDM's Contaminizione
All 3 above have sections in their music that brings me to a "musical high".
Also, an obscure album with hard rock overtones and very emotional vocals is the Io Uomo by Ricordi Di Infanzia from 1973. It sounds like it was recorded in a garage and has grunge guitar but the music has a sad/melancholic overtone to it and the vocals are sad but emotional.
Another EXTREMELY emotional italian album for me is "Planatarium" by Infinity from 1971. It's instrumental with wordless vocals thruout but the melodies are almost tragic and moving. A beautiful album.
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Posted By: Mikerinos
Date Posted: July 03 2007 at 10:55
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Either Per un Amico, Locanda Delle Fate's debut, or Celeste's debut. I like the bombastic Italian stuff a lot, but these pastoral albums are three of my favorites. Per un Amico was my introduction to RPI (although I might have heard an Osanna track on The Sopranos...  ), and after it finally hit me after 2-3 listens, it really sparked an interest in Italian prog scene. Locanda Delle Fate was my favorite for a while, but now I'm not sure since there are many that come close. The length is a plus, it's one of the few RPI albums thats longer than 40 minutes (50+ i believe), and not a second is filler. Very complex but never bombastic, always something new to discover musically, and the vocalist is awesome. Each of the 7 musicians is utalized fully and there are so many layers to digest.Anyway, I'll stop rambling. Some of my other favorites: Museo Rosenbach - Zarathustra Banco - s/t Banco - Darwin! Banco - Io Sono Nato Libero PFM - Storia di un Minuto Osanna - Palepoli Semiramis - Dedicato a Frazz I think that's all, those are the ones I'd give 4.5-5 stars, there are tons more that I'd give 4 stars. ------------- 
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