Utopia vs. Todd Rundgren solo???
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Topic: Utopia vs. Todd Rundgren solo???
Posted By: ghost_of_morphy
Subject: Utopia vs. Todd Rundgren solo???
Date Posted: July 08 2007 at 15:28
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Utopia had one prog album, one mostly prog album and one album that you could classify as prog if you were being exceptionally generous. Todd Rundgren solo had one prog album, one mostly prog album and one album that you could classify as prog if you were being exceptionally generous.
Anybody want to take a stab at explaining how Todd Rundgren's Utopia gets listed on PA while Todd Rundgren doesn't get listed as a solo artist?
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Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: July 08 2007 at 16:48
| Todd's addition as Prog Related would probably be a formality if someone was to step forward and offer to do the work. |
Posted By: kingdhansak
Date Posted: September 08 2007 at 04:47
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Very interesting point as I've always loved Todd's solo 70's work. I think you may have to weigh up his albums and ask yourself, which are prog, which are not?
His first 3 solo records are excellent, but to me are singer-songwriter. However Todd, A Wizard and Initiation are clearly experimental enough for inclusion here. (Wizard and Todd incidently I cant describe in word how good they are!)
I think the problem being here is that maybe he is just TOO diverse, and that's not a bad thing!
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Posted By: Chicapah
Date Posted: September 08 2007 at 10:11
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I would enjoy seeing the Toddster added to PA. He definitely has a prog spirit. ------------- "Literature is well enough, as a time-passer, and for the improvement and general elevation and purification of mankind, but it has no practical value" - Mark Twain |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: September 10 2007 at 19:59
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Rundgren is one that might fit in crossover as it gets fleshed out in the weeks/months ahead.
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Posted By: Phideaux
Date Posted: September 10 2007 at 20:08
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Healer, for these ears is "experimental/progressive" art rock Wizard is pure prog rock suites with exceptional production Initiation has that weird instrumental side... But then, so does Bowie "Heroes" and that even has Fripp! I wonder what is the other Todd "prog" album? Utopia, on the other hand, has the fantastic totally fusion/prog 1st album Utopia then Another live has some moogy bits Ra is quite filled with excessive time signature changes and the crazy "epic" Singrin (or whatever it is called)... Aside from that, any other proggy Todd anyone can recall? (Aside from Steve Hillage "L" that is, which is basically all of Utopia without Todd) |
Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: September 11 2007 at 03:46
| For me, "A wizard, a true star" is his most prog solo album. The tracks fit together in a "Supper's ready" sort of way to make the whole. And of course we get "An LP's worth of tunes" in one song! |
Posted By: unclemeat69
Date Posted: November 01 2007 at 05:37
of course "Lp's worth of tunes" is from "Todd" not from Wizard, and "todd" is even more deranged as "Wizard" ------------- Follow your bliss |
Easy Livin wrote:Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: November 01 2007 at 06:22
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I haven't checked elsewhere on the site , but reading here Rundgren is not long already here is frankly a big surprise. WRT to mainstream prog, I've always seen/heard Todd Rundgren's Utopia (suggested elsewhere as 'Yes with guts') as probably the second US recording to dint the British hold on the genre (of course Touch being the first, and Kansas weren't spotted until 1976). Then the run of albums with and without Utopia through the 70's which certain conform to prog definitions - although I have to build up courage to listen to side two of Initiation........
Back in the early 70's when Rundgren was being broken into the UK market, a lot of time was given to Something/Anything (while for instance Wizard A True Star was ignored) - not for being a prog album, indeed nobody then ever equate the album with prog. It consisted of a series of pop rock tunes (soul, blues, rock, ballads, etc.) well crafted and said to be completely Rundgren's own work, e.g. wrt playing the instruments. Therefore the comparisons were with the likes of Emitt Rhodes, who also recorded as a one man band - and also Paul McCartney who did do a nearly truly solo album prior to forming Wings. ------------- The best eclectic music on the Web,8-11pm BST/GMT THURS. CLICK ON: http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php - http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php Host by PA's Dick Heath. |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: November 01 2007 at 06:51
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^ Todd has been discussed within the Crossover team but I haven't heard any of his solo stuff to form an opinion. ------------- What? |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: November 03 2007 at 23:12
we need to take care of that 
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Posted By: ghost_of_morphy
Date Posted: November 04 2007 at 01:20
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The albums that I had in mind (in order of progginess) were Initiation, A Wizard, A True Star, Todd, and A Capella. |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: November 04 2007 at 03:18
I've got the first two solo albums you mentioned and the two prog Utopias. Of the four Utopia is the best, followed by Ra, Initiation and then Wizard. Isn't it cool that with all the prog artists that attempted to go commercial in late '70's/early '80's that a pop artist went prog in the early '70's?  ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Posted By: ghost_of_morphy
Date Posted: November 06 2007 at 12:06
| Yep, that's a cool way of looking at it. |
Posted By: unclemeat69
Date Posted: December 19 2007 at 16:14
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wizard was probably his first full prog album (eventhough there are
some soultunes on there), but prog was already hinted on earlier
albums, like I'm in the clique whish is on Runt, there are freaky
moments on something/anything as well
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