Jazz Fusion
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Topic: Jazz Fusion
Posted By: King Crimson776
Subject: Jazz Fusion
Date Posted: November 16 2007 at 16:35
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There are tons of polls about symphonic and prog metal. I was just wondering what the general consensus on jazz fusion is on Prog Archives. Some of the artists are just members of some of the bands on the list, but sometimes people like the solo output better than the band. If there are any great lesser-known jazz fusion bands that you know about, I'd love to hear some suggestions as this is one of my favorite genres.
My vote goes for Miles, can't argue with Bitches Brew and Jack Johnson. |
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Posted By: glass house
Date Posted: November 16 2007 at 16:42
Now playing Elegant Gypsy by mr.Meola - excellent!! I've got Believe it by Tony Williams, Holdsworth playing, another great album. Brand X are very good. Gonna choose Return To Forever though. They released at least 4 beautiful albums  .
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Not on the list but worth a mention; Fromuz, Kenso and Hectic Watermelon.
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: November 16 2007 at 16:44
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Good list there. Had to go with the local (to me) guys, Dixie Dregs. I've seen them live so many times I lost count. ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Posted By: King Crimson776
Date Posted: November 16 2007 at 16:45
RTF, yeah, one of the greatest musician bands ever. Where Have I Known You Before is an incredible album. 
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Posted By: King Crimson776
Date Posted: November 16 2007 at 16:59
| Would you guys consider Soft Machine jazz fusion? |
Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: November 16 2007 at 17:01
| Good topic pal, anyway i choose Brand X, super, the first 2 albums are essential, but i like many of your list including Dixie Dregs, Return to Forever, Weather Report, etc. You forget to put on your list some fine jazz bands like Passport one of my favourite bands ever, Iceberg from Spain also very good Lotus from Sweden is another fine jazz band. So, i vote for Brand X and their jazz with canterbury flavour specially on the first Unorthodox beaviour from 1976. |
Posted By: glass house
Date Posted: November 16 2007 at 17:10
Fusion yes, they put ( fuse ) loads of styles together. Jazz fusion in the sense of the list you made, no.
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King Crimson776 wrote:Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: November 16 2007 at 17:19
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after all is said and done...
.. Miles ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm 
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Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: November 16 2007 at 17:24
The Mahavishnu Orchestra
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Posted By: fungusucantkill
Date Posted: November 16 2007 at 17:29
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god damn. so freakin many. Miles, Mahavishnu, yellowjackets, Brand X, and weather report. jaco, mclaighlin, zawinul pretty much make up these bands. and also props to wayne shorter but i like him under his jazz name rather than fusion. -------------  
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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: November 16 2007 at 17:37
Of course, one of the pioneering groups ------------- The best eclectic music on the Web,8-11pm BST/GMT THURS. CLICK ON: http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php - http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php Host by PA's Dick Heath. |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: November 16 2007 at 17:44
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Somewhat retro-looking list, especially with 2007 turning out to be a vintage year for new jazz fusion albums: Machacek etal: Improvision Hellborg: Art Metal T Latvitz: School Of The Arts Eivind Aarset: Sonic Codex Soft Machine Legacy newie Ahmad Mansour: Free Speech Uncle Moes Space Ranch: Moe's Town Theo Travis: Double Talk Asaf Sirkis & Inner Noise: The Song Within ------------- The best eclectic music on the Web,8-11pm BST/GMT THURS. CLICK ON: http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php - http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php Host by PA's Dick Heath. |
Posted By: King Crimson776
Date Posted: November 16 2007 at 17:50
| Yeah, I don't know much new jazz fusion, there is some stuff like planet x and even Cynic is on some lists but I didn't want to have any iffy ones. If there is another band that you want to pick just go other and say who it is. |
Posted By: King Crimson776
Date Posted: November 16 2007 at 18:06
Do you think any of these guys stand a chance against the classics though? Remember, this is a "favorite all-time" list, not a "who are you into right now" one. |
Posted By: markosherrera
Date Posted: November 16 2007 at 18:12
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Jean Luc Ponty
Azymuth
Oregon
Yellow Jackets
Spyrogyra
Acoustic Alchemy
Opa
I love Brazilian jazz fusion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWBzEx-PyQo - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWBzEx-PyQo
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Posted By: markosherrera
Date Posted: November 16 2007 at 18:18
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjXN3OLgoqs - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjXN3OLgoqs listen!!!
this perhaps is not jazz fusion I dont know but is awesome..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJG-OeCB-L8&feature=related - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJG-OeCB-L8&feature=related
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: November 16 2007 at 18:22
Didn't know T had a new one out hadn't been keeping up with him lately. It that Soft Machine actually new material? Don't have much Hellborg. Love Octave of the Holy Innocents. He really shines on that Mahavisnu Orchestra DVD. ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: November 16 2007 at 18:43
Strictly Soft Machine Legacy - Marshall, Etheridge, Hopper and Theo Travis more than adequately standing in the shoes of the late Elton Dean - new for sure and it is dynamic record, I guess with a something to prove. Picked up on the Latvitz record School Of The Arts with the amount of praise heaped on it at Fusenet - now I have it I too can say it is a goodie. Largely unplugged (apart from three tunes guesting Jerry Goodman and John Patitucci plugging in a couple of times) it is an upbeat record with musicians clearly enjoying themselves and getting the message across. The new Hellborg Art Metal, has the bass maestro exploring more new fusions; jazz rock, Indian and heavy metal - and to most it work very well - Jazzwise has the only negative comments with a 1* star rating - I would would say it is at the other end of ratings spectrum. ------------- The best eclectic music on the Web,8-11pm BST/GMT THURS. CLICK ON: http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php - http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php Host by PA's Dick Heath. |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: November 16 2007 at 19:03
Absolutely, jazz (rock) fusion is one of the few old prog sub genres that has truly progressed. While classic recordings are further apart than the early 70's they most certainly come around. Jon Newey (editor of Jazzwise magazine and compiler of the long discography at the rear of Stuart Nicholson's essential book on the subject Jazz Rock A History), compiled an essential 10 albums for Mojo Collectibles magazine. He came up with some obvious and undeniable classics from the 60's and 70's : Emergency, Bitches Brew, Third, Inner Mounting Flame, Hymn Of The Seventh Galaxy, Mysterious Traveler, Spectrum. He thought it essential to include a couple of later classics. He asked a number of people including myself, although in the end went for Scott Henderson and Tribal Tech. I suggested and vry much stick to: Hellborg/Shrieve/Buckethead's Octave of The Holy Innocents (but avoid the remixed version issued a couple of years ago) and Conrad Schrenk & Extravaganza's Save The Robots - which have remained favourites for over a decade. The latter is regularly nominated the best album of the 90's by those who have heard it - which reflects the problem of spotting "classic" albums over the last 20 years with their relatively obscurity and release through small labels and only in a few countries. As to personal classics more than 20 years old: Bruford's Feels Good To Me ((in my top 3 since the late 70's) Tony Williams Lifetime: Turn It over (perhaps the first album I owned to which the term jazz rock was attached) The New Tony Williams Lifetime: Believe It - great to see Holdsworth and Pasqua play a few of those tunes in London in May. Allan Holdsworth's early solos: Road Games and IOU (perhaps because of the vocals, and this was the peak of Holdsworth's composing period IMHO) Pat Metheny Group: American Garage ------------- The best eclectic music on the Web,8-11pm BST/GMT THURS. CLICK ON: http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php - http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php Host by PA's Dick Heath. |
Posted By: ProgBagel
Date Posted: November 16 2007 at 19:33
| Mahavishnu easily! I quite like Brand X a lot. |
Posted By: Walker
Date Posted: November 16 2007 at 19:54
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MILES!
Bitches Brew... the original fusion album!
The only one in my personal top 20.
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Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: November 16 2007 at 21:44
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Metheny! E ------------- 
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Posted By: JROCHA
Date Posted: November 16 2007 at 22:20
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I'm hooked on Return to Forever right now, they are such amazing musicians
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: November 16 2007 at 22:24
frankly no one on this list comes close to Holdsworth   |
Posted By: santiagomo87
Date Posted: November 16 2007 at 22:47
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I chose Billy Cobham because of his album live in europe with George Duke it is really amazing ------------- Santiago |
Posted By: fuxi
Date Posted: November 17 2007 at 04:34
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My gut instinct immediately tells me my favorite is PAT METHENY. Although his music can be woolly at times, he has recorded more albums I love than any other artist you mention.
This isn't meant to diminish the importance of Weather Report, Herbie Hancock etc. And if you've ever bumped into any of my reviews, you'll know that I particularly enjoy Bill Bruford's Earthworks... But Pat has given me so much pleasure... Moreover, he's the greatest INSTRUMENTAL PROG composer / soloist of the last twenty years or so! 
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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: November 17 2007 at 06:55
Where did you pick up on that false idea, jazz fusion (and labelled jazz fusion) had been around since at least before 1965 e.g. Joe Harriott & John Mayers Double Quintet's Indo-jazz fusion and one of Larry Coryell's early band Free Spirits  http://www.amazon.co.uk/Out-Sight-Sound-Free-Spirits/dp/B000FVGLI4/ref=cm_cr-mr-titlePlenty more information about the chronology and development of jazz fusion: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Jazz-Rock-History-Stuart-Nicholson/dp/0825671884/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1195300551&sr=1-13 ------------- The best eclectic music on the Web,8-11pm BST/GMT THURS. CLICK ON: http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php - http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php Host by PA's Dick Heath. |
Posted By: peterduarte
Date Posted: November 17 2007 at 07:32
| Allan Holdsworth. |
Posted By: paloz
Date Posted: November 17 2007 at 08:38
| Other: Area!! |
Posted By: sircosick
Date Posted: November 17 2007 at 17:03
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All musicians listed are simply gods....... and the stuff is superb. I'd also add Niacin; but overall is a good and essential list. I know Miles Davies is THE jazz-man and Return to Forever made some remarkable stuff; I also love Weather Report and a couple of Holdsworth's solo efforts. Yeah, I really like jazz fusion! But I definately stay, all the time, with the marvelous Mahavishnu Orchestra, leading the superb John McLaughlin and the impressive Billy Cobham. Even lovin' a lot of other fusion-oriented stuff, I didn't think twice before voting for Mahavishnu. My favourite jazz-fusion band. ------------- The best you can is good enough... |
Posted By: King Crimson776
Date Posted: December 06 2007 at 18:32
| Mahavishnu wins! That is, unless we get some more votes... |
Posted By: JayDee
Date Posted: December 06 2007 at 18:34
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I'm torn between Return To Forever and Allan Holdsworth. ------------- 
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Posted By: obiter
Date Posted: December 06 2007 at 20:15
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It's gotta be Jaco (Bassist's vote) but where's Dominique Dipiazza? Keep an eye on hadrien feraud (awesome) ------------- An té nach mbíonn láidir ní folláir dó bheith glic |