New Forum Look - Signatures
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Topic: New Forum Look - Signatures
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Subject: New Forum Look - Signatures
Date Posted: January 02 2008 at 13:35
I noticed that M@x limited the height of signature images to 160px ... that's very, very bad for all people who use last.fm/ratingfreak.com signatures or any other signature image which contains text. The text is distorted and barely readable once the image height exceeds 160px.
I would suggest that the maximum signature image height is limited to 200px, if it must be limited at all. Personally I think it makes much more sense to limit the signature area height though and simply cut off images which don't fit ... please don't scale them!
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Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: January 02 2008 at 13:52
Increasing the maximum number of characters in a sig would be useful. Sometimes the available 200 characters weren't enough for me (I had to, for example, combine two pictures into one 'cos their addresses contained too many characters, usually just 2 or 3 over 200!).
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Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: January 02 2008 at 13:57
I'll refer the comments to mailto:M@x - M@x to have a look at.
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: January 02 2008 at 13:58
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
I noticed that M@x limited the height of signature images to 160px ... that's very, very bad for all people who use last.fm/ratingfreak.com signatures or any other signature image which contains text. The text is distorted and barely readable once the image height exceeds 160px.
I would suggest that the maximum signature image height is limited to 200px, if it must be limited at all. Personally I think it makes much more sense to limit the signature area height though and simply cut off images which don't fit ... please don't scale them!
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Or fix the sig cell height and have it scrollable.
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: January 02 2008 at 14:00
Actually I'm all for limiting signature height ... but the standard 10 line last.fm signatures should be allowed IMO, and the standard height generated on my server is 170px (with the smallest font size). 200px would be perfect IMO.
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: January 02 2008 at 14:02
That's what I meant by limiting the signature area height ... and it's actually already in the stylesheet, only the images are scaled to fit the maximum height as well (css attribute "max-height").
IMO it would be perfect if M@x removed the image scaling and set max-height of the signature div to 200px.
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: January 02 2008 at 14:03
^ hmm, the re-scalling of your sig looks dreadful . I don't have a problem with 250 or 300px even, it's only the really big ones (400+) that need fixing.
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: January 02 2008 at 14:05
^ then it's a good test for M@x ... this is how it should look:

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Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: January 02 2008 at 14:47
I repeat: INCREASE THE NUMBER OF CHARACTERS!!! 200 is too little...
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: January 02 2008 at 14:54
The change affects worse other signatures, my seems just a bit harmed.
It should be, indeed, fixed.
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Posted By: R o V e R
Date Posted: January 02 2008 at 14:59
I feel very Shy to post anything, In this New look of the Forum, but will get to use to it, I hope
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: January 02 2008 at 16:12
Oops, I actually see now that my Peter Hammill cover has been shrunk radically. It actually doesn't even fits my signature space, but falls below!
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: January 02 2008 at 19:33
Now I've browsed a few threads and pages in the forum I have3 to admit that I really really like (okay, love) the new shrinky-dink signatures - makes scrolling a pleasure. thanks mailto:M@Xs - M@Xs - nice one. 
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Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: January 02 2008 at 19:37
I think 250-300 pixels would be a good height to both limit the ridiculously large ones and allow people to still put nice-looking and eye-catching pictures in their sigs.
But then again, I usually adblock the ones that annoy me, so I don't have a problem with people having huge images in their signatures.
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Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: January 02 2008 at 21:11
Put em back the way they were. Signatures were a great insight in to the personality of the poster. It's a great method of expression and shouldn't be so drastically limited. The limit should be larger, if there need be one at all.
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Posted By: Ghandi 2
Date Posted: January 03 2008 at 04:01
Haha, did mailto:M@x - M@x read my complaints, I wonder? In any case, thank you, it makes reading so much easier! I hate these emoticons, but I'm so happy I'm going to use them anyway! 
I agree with Mike, the images should be cut off if they're too big, because right now the huge file is still there, so the poor suckers on 56k will still have to load it, even if now they can get past it without breaking their scroll buttons.
If there is truly no way to get a last.fm/whatever sig smaller than 200px, then I support an increase to that. It's not fair to penalize them with an unreadable sig because they want to show that easily.
The character limit also should be higher, as long as the 200px limit is maintained. 200px high is way more than 200 characters, and if someone wants to fill his sig with words, why not? It loads a hell of a lot faster than image sigs. Forcing people to make an image with the words they want to say is not a good solution, which is what I had to do once.
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: January 03 2008 at 05:05
^ I would be glad to offer a signature service which uses text instead of images ... unfortunately the forum software doesn't allow that.
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: January 03 2008 at 05:17
Well, I took down my picture, it has become completely useless.
Perhaps the Last.Fm charts' problem can still be solved.
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: January 03 2008 at 05:32
I'm leaving my "big" signature in place until the problem is solved ... all Ratingfreak.com sig users can adjust the "Max Lines" setting to 5 as a workaround.
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: January 03 2008 at 05:48
looks like they are back 
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: January 03 2008 at 06:19
It seems like the signature area height is now limited to 200px, but the image height is still limited to 150px.
Suggestion: Limit the image to 200px, and the signature area to 220px. This will allow people to use a signature image and one line of text.
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: January 03 2008 at 06:27
My mistake ... I'm not at my own PC and hadn't spotted that this one is using IE6, so the css isn't shrinking the images.
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: January 03 2008 at 06:29
^ That's correct, older browsers ignore max-height for images. Another reason not to use them ...
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: January 03 2008 at 11:38
can't say I like the look with reduced sigs... but it isnt like it is a big deal... I do have to strain ..with my bad eyes to read some of these signatures with their charts... hahhaha
so M@X.. what is more important.... some people having to wait a few extra moments for a page to load.. or the physical well being of your older posters here hahhaha It's enough that this site dents the wallet.. now it will accelerate the decline of our older members eyesight 
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: January 03 2008 at 11:59
^ there you are ...
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: January 03 2008 at 12:05
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
^ there you are ...
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hahhaha... you prog metal fans don't have to worry about that for years At least wait until the frequent outbreaks of acne subsides 
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Posted By: martinn
Date Posted: January 03 2008 at 12:22
I like it, good work M@x!
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: January 03 2008 at 14:34
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: January 03 2008 at 15:12
hahahhahha... that's the spirit.... leave those albums to your relatives 
the gift that keeps on giving...
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Posted By: StyLaZyn
Date Posted: January 03 2008 at 15:42
I'm reminded of "Get Them Out by Friday"...adapted to
"This is an announcement from ProgArchives Control.
It is my sad duty to inform you of a 160px restriction on signature height...."
Must be to fit twice as many posts on the forum page site.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: January 03 2008 at 16:49
StyLaZyn wrote:
I'm reminded of "Get Them Out by Friday"...adapted to
"This is an announcement from ProgArchives Control.
It is my sad duty to inform you of a 160px restriction on signature height...."
Must be to fit twice as many posts on the forum page site.
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hahhah.. or more ads 
no... nothing as insidious as that I suppose.... only a ploy by M@X to cause early onset blindness and run all the old coots off hahhahaha thereby ensured the primacy of the mighty... PROG METAL hahhahah
bring back the large sigs.... do it for the old folks... or at least some sort of online Braille 
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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: January 03 2008 at 23:45
I hate the new sigs, everyone's looks cut off and quite frankly f**ked up
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Posted By: King Crimson776
Date Posted: January 04 2008 at 00:56
yeah, I liked the old unrestricted look, it was very progressive. This is all uniform and republican.
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: January 04 2008 at 05:15
One slightly annoying effect is that signature images are setting the minimum width of the page, which is a real pain on my laptop whenever James posts because his super-wide Ratingfreak chart means I have to horizontal-scroll to read posts, which is like really irritating, you know.
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: January 04 2008 at 07:31
I did shrink it to 800px, but I've put it back to 1000px now, sorry Dean!
I cannot adjust the colours or the height of my ratingfreak signature, due to some weird error on Mike's site.
I can change the width and font style though. Poor old Bobby Wyatt now gets pushed off the edge and cut in half when my ratingfreak sig increases in size (due to the flip over to the Top Albums list).
I might have to shrink it back to 800px again.
Edit: it's now back at 800px width.
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: January 04 2008 at 07:36
^ the height of the sig can be adjusted by changing font size and max lines ... currently you cannot specify a maximum height in pixels. In your case I see no problem with reducing the width, I mean do you really need 5 columns of top artists?
BTW: I'll change the color editor this weekend ... unfortunately it works fine for me in IE7 and Firefox, I still don't know why other people are experiencing problems.
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Posted By: M@X
Date Posted: January 04 2008 at 07:38
I will limit the HEIGHT of the SIGNATURE to 250px and the IMG, EMBED to 200px as request by MIKE. Thanks.
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Posted By: M@X
Date Posted: January 04 2008 at 07:41
Is it better now ?
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: January 04 2008 at 07:44
No horizontal scroll on my Laptop - Thanks Max, Mike & James 
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: January 04 2008 at 07:59
No problem. I have reduced the width, Mike and nothing suffers. I did have issues with changing the fonts and font sizes the other day, but that was due to the pixel height for signatures here on P.A., so I may attempt a font change again later.
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: January 04 2008 at 08:26
M@X wrote:
I will limit the HEIGHT of the SIGNATURE to 250px and the IMG, EMBED to 200px as request by MIKE. Thanks.
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Thanks! It's perfect now IMO.
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Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: January 04 2008 at 12:20
Everything is good again it seems
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: January 04 2008 at 15:39
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
M@X wrote:
I will limit the HEIGHT of the SIGNATURE to 250px and the IMG, EMBED to 200px as request by MIKE. Thanks.
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Thanks! It's perfect now IMO.
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man.... can I touch you ... whatya have.. frickin M@X's cellphone number...
can you whip up a request to M@X for me.. say... a cut of that ad revenue I need a boat to ski behind as well hahahhaha or one of those beach vacations 
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: January 04 2008 at 16:16
^ I think you're going to have more luck looking for a lake with a steep gradient. 
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: January 04 2008 at 16:20
darqdean wrote:
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hahhahah.. yeah ain't that the truth 
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: January 05 2008 at 05:29
micky wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
M@X wrote:
I will limit the HEIGHT of the SIGNATURE to 250px and the IMG, EMBED to 200px as request by MIKE. Thanks.
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Thanks! It's perfect now IMO.
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man.... can I touch you ... whatya have.. frickin M@X's cellphone number...
can you whip up a request to M@X for me.. say... a cut of that ad revenue I need a boat to ski behind as well hahahhaha or one of those beach vacations 
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I still can't believe what just happened ... 
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Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: January 05 2008 at 06:29
Hint 
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: January 05 2008 at 07:02
Yes Bob, but there's still no Recent Posts!
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: January 05 2008 at 08:21
Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: January 05 2008 at 11:05
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See the other more general thread. 
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=44871 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=44871
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Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: January 05 2008 at 11:43
What's happening? When I edit my sig it cuts everything after 102 characters.
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: January 05 2008 at 14:56
I like the way my music collection now looks much more manageable.
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