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Topic: humour in progressive music
Posted By: sean
Subject: humour in progressive music
Date Posted: January 21 2008 at 01:55
personally, i'm a huge fan of artists that don't take themselves seriously, such as Frank Zappa, and I think it provides a nice contrast to more serious artists, but I was wondering what the people here thought about the place of humour in music, whether they like it or not, or only at certain times. I think it's an interesting topic because somehow most music turns out being serious in nature even though many people aspire to be funny. 



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Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: January 21 2008 at 02:41
I like that approach of not taking yourself seriously, but always take the music and the artistry seriously. i think humor has its place anywhere, including prog. It's a matter of appropiate time, how you execute it and whether or not the humor will be sustainable.

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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: January 21 2008 at 02:47

Zappa definitely took himself and his music seriously, but i know what you mean.

Mr. Bungle?
 
King Crimson 80's period? (Belew's connected to Zappa too)
 
Phish sometimes
 
hell, even Dream Theater throw in a humorous tid bit from time to time...
 
although, notice every band i mentioned lists Zappa as an influence or directly worked with the man.


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Posted By: Hat of Truth
Date Posted: January 21 2008 at 02:53
Homour is a large word. I would consider some artists to maby have humour, but most of them have wit. Like, mostly ways to come up with responses and some words that aren't that really serious.


Posted By: Avantgardehead
Date Posted: January 21 2008 at 03:28
Genesis and Frank Zappa are masters of the humor combined with excellent music.

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Posted By: fuxi
Date Posted: January 21 2008 at 03:36
The best combination to have is humorous music with an underlying seriousness. Take Mozart's collaborations with da Ponte, for example (LA NOZZE DI FIGARO, DON GIOVANNI, COSI FAN TUTTE). They're all comedies, but parts of them are immensely moving.

I'm a Zappa fan, too, and I greatly enjoy some of his most outrageous moments (e.g. "The Illinois Enema Bandit", "Flakes") but I sometimes feel there's a lack of human warmth in Zappa's music. If you believe ALL humans are ridiculous ALL the time (except, perhaps, some musicians in full flight), you may end up sounding a little shrill. There are a couple of genuinely tender songs in the Zappa canon, but they're definitely in the minority; as far as I know, Zappa's most emotional moments don't feature lyrics. As far as prog is concerned, I guess you'll find a better combination of whacky humour and tender emotions in some of the bands from the Canterbury Scene.


Posted By: Ahmadbarqawi
Date Posted: January 21 2008 at 03:58
The best combination of humour & excellent music i found in:
 
1- Liquid Tension Experiment
 
2- Steve Vai
 
3- Some tongue-in-cheek moments on Steven Wilson projects...
 
But as Hughes JB4 said; i much prefer a humorous musician with serious music, as in these topics Paul Gilbert (non-prog guitarist) always comes to mind, his humour seems to overshadows his composing abilities... (visit this guy's website; its hilarious hehehehe)
 


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Posted By: Ghandi 2
Date Posted: January 21 2008 at 04:02
How is LTE funny? I don't understand...
 
The problem I have with humorous artists is that the jokes are only funny a certain number of times, and then it just gets annoying.


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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: January 21 2008 at 04:05
Two words: Canterbury scene, especially the marvellous Caravan.Wink Quintessential English humour and plenty of double entendres (courtesy of Pye Hastings) - just check some of their song titles. Ah, and the music is not half bad either....Smile


Posted By: Ahmadbarqawi
Date Posted: January 21 2008 at 04:06
Originally posted by Ghandi 2 Ghandi 2 wrote:

How is LTE funny? I don't understand...
 
The problem I have with humorous artists is that the jokes are only funny a certain number of times, and then it just gets annoying.
 
they do inject their music with funny moments like imitating some cartoon music in their compositions or all these crazy portnoy moments in "The Stretch"


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Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: January 21 2008 at 04:26
What? Some of the unfunniest bands I can think of has been mentioned already. And except Zappa and Bungle, non of the ones that I think actually combines humour (altough sometimes not that funny) with excellent music:

Anyone here heard any Canterbury? Hatfield and The North, Soft Machine (two first), Caravan, Gong, Cos, Supersister, Picchio Dal Pozzo, Moving Gelatine Plates, Egg, Pazop

And lots of RIO/Avant actually: Samla Mammas Manna/Von Zamla/Zamla Mammaz Manna, Wha-Ha Ha, The Residents, Aksak Maboul, Debile Menthol, Komintern, Jono El Grande  

Some more: Second Hand, Jethro Tull, Cardiacs, Kraan, Brainstorm

Edit: Caravan/Canterbury were mentioned while I was writing.


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Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: January 21 2008 at 04:41
Originally posted by Ghandi 2 Ghandi 2 wrote:

 
The problem I have with humorous artists is that the jokes are only funny a certain number of times, and then it just gets annoying.


I kind of agree with you, but most of the bands I mentioned aren't about jokes. Humor incorporated in the music itself  works better.


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Posted By: fuxi
Date Posted: January 21 2008 at 06:47
Originally posted by Rocktopus Rocktopus wrote:


I kind of agree with you, but most of the bands I mentioned aren't about jokes. Humor incorporated in the music itself  works better.


All too true. "Let's Eat (Real Soon)" by Hatfield and the North has such a chirpy melody, I happily sing along every time!


Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: January 21 2008 at 07:12
When it comes to humour in music, Gong and Daevid Allen must not be forgotten. Their humour is in the music as well as in the lyrics.

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Posted By: dedokras
Date Posted: January 21 2008 at 07:48
Zappa, Cardiacs, Bungle, Primus, Genesis, some of the Jethro stuff, Queen, Beatles... I really enjoy good humour in music :)


Posted By: allan Duul II
Date Posted: January 21 2008 at 08:49
I love canterbury scene music too, its brilliant. Robert Wyatt incorporates alot of humour into his stuff too. I find Gentle Giant and Magma quite funny too.

Syd Barrett's Pink Floyd and some of their other stuff, like Seamus and free four. I think a fair bit of Krautrock has a bit of humour in it too.


Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: January 21 2008 at 09:10
Originally posted by allan Duul II allan Duul II wrote:

I love canterbury scene music too, its brilliant. Robert Wyatt incorporates alot of humour into his stuff too. I find Gentle Giant and Magma quite funny too.

Syd Barrett's Pink Floyd and some of their other stuff, like Seamus and free four. I think a fair bit of Krautrock has a bit of humour in it too.

Krautrock definitely has its humorous side too. Amon Düül 2 and Guru Guru embed a lot of humour in their music. The same is true for Kraan.


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Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: January 21 2008 at 09:16
Genesis had a fair bit of humour in their work. See 'Supper's Ready' which has that Canterbury-style trait of having an epic with sections that have ridiculous titles (like 'Nine Feet Underground'). Sometimes it makes its way into the music- that's fine when you get 'The Battle Of Epping Forest', 'Harold The Barrel', 'Counting Out Time' or 'Robbery Assault And Battery' or even the later 'Jesus He Knows Me' (which I quite like, I have to admit) but less so when you end up with broad, crass horrors like 'Illegal Alien' and 'Who Dunnit?'.
 
The Canterbury acts were characterised by it- I think perhaps that's maybe why certain factions of the music press tend to treat it better. I liked the early Soft Machine albums a lot more than the rather cold (IMHO) feel of 'Fourth' and 'Fifth' which IMHO sacrificed a lot of the original charm for a rather sobering, 'muso' feel. Same with Gong- those jazz rock albums that they did after Daevid Allen and Steve Hillage left lack something. Caravan never really lost it but again, I think sometimes the more 'muso' they got the weaker the material was- some of the jammier moments on 'Waterloo Lily' springs to mind.
 
10cc have not been mentioned. I'd shy from calling their music pure prog but it does have an influence from that, IMHO- particularly the near masterpiece 'The Original Soundtrack'. 'Une Nuit In Paris' is almost a bit of mock-prog, but most of the album has some very witty, sometimes hilarious lyrics.
 
Some of Zappa's stuff has a mock-prog feel about it too, IMHO. 'Inca Roads' always smacks me as being a bit of a prog pastiche (one book I read suggested it got very close to Yes), but it's so fantastic musically that it appeals to a lot of prog fans anyway. Zappa's humour can be an acquired taste- I preferred it when it was vehemently anti-establishment (the earliest Mothers albums, for example) or satirical ('Dancin' Fool', 'Valley Girl', 'Flakes') than the excessive nudge nudge wink wink stuff that characterises too much of that Flo and Eddie period and his 80s albums.
 
I guess Pink Floyd are about the least humorous band in prog, but there's something about Roger Waters' solo album 'Amused To Death' which has a very dark, black comedy feel about it IMHO. There is a despair attached to the lyrics but a sort of slight ironic bemusement in songs like 'Perfect Sense', 'What God Wants', 'It's A Miracle', 'The Bravery Of Being Out Of Range' and the title track that I picked upon.
 
I don't get any humour from Dream Theater, or a lot of prog metal for that matter. Not knocking it but honestly, humour is about the last attribute I'd look for there unless you count those bits where they throw in the theme tune for The Simpsons or some such...


Posted By: allan Duul II
Date Posted: January 21 2008 at 09:27
Most pre DSoTM albums by Pink Floyd had humour in them I think, esspecially their earliest works. And there was quite a bit of sarcastic humour through their later works too.




Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: January 21 2008 at 10:06
doesn't anybody find Gentle Giant's quasi-round vocal breaks humourous? i certainly do! they are also genially brilliant!


Posted By: TerLJack
Date Posted: January 21 2008 at 10:18

I realize I'm probably in the minority here, but I love these bands:

Crack the Sky, City Boy, 10CC, Goodrats, Be-Bop Deluxe, Queen, Todd Rundgren, Split Enz and more.  Primarily for their sense of melody and harmony, but for their sense of humor as well.

Terry


Posted By: laplace
Date Posted: January 21 2008 at 10:38
In addition to Rocktopus's great list of humourous bands, let's not forget Stormy Six and their album "Macchina Maccheronica" which is sidesplitting from start to finish. I do love it when musicians manage to be funny through exuberance rather than irony.

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Posted By: iguana
Date Posted: January 21 2008 at 10:45
the bottom line will always be (to quote rick wakeman)
“always take the music seriously – but not yourself“

actually, prog(ressive music) can be one of the most humorous genres. i'm being dead serious.

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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: January 21 2008 at 10:52
Let's not forget Robert Calvert, who not only wrote very humorous lyrics, but at least one album of his ("Lucky Leif and the Longships") is musically very humorous too.

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Posted By: sean
Date Posted: January 21 2008 at 11:29
Originally posted by salmacis salmacis wrote:

 
I don't get any humour from Dream Theater, or a lot of prog metal for that matter. Not knocking it but honestly, humour is about the last attribute I'd look for there unless you count those bits where they throw in the theme tune for The Simpsons or some such...


The humour in Dream Theater I find is when they throw in random ragtime solos and the likes. Also, outside of their music their not very serious, but that really only shows up in the live shows. i think they should let their humour go into the recorded music though, i'd enjoy some funny lyrics over the latest offerings about pharoah zombies and dark masters. although i think the lyrics to the last album at times were so ridiculous that they were funny (dark eternal night) but i don't think they were intended that way.


Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: January 21 2008 at 11:50

Ghost Rider hit the nail on the thumb. Canterbury! NATIONAL HEALTH,CARAVAN and on and on.Even the song titles are hilarious.



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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: January 21 2008 at 12:08

Devin Townsend is an artist that I am not that familiar with, but I believe that his latest release Ziltoid was meant to be humorous.  I don't know if this is the norm for him or if this is a first. 



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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: January 21 2008 at 12:23
Marillion have moments of funny, but usually in the Hogarth era. Sometimes it's parody ("Cannibal Surf Babe") or scattered silliness, like bits and pieces of Anoraknophobia.

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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: January 21 2008 at 12:36
3 more from the French side:
http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=2909 - MA BANLIEUE FLASQUE  (inspired by Zappa) with one s/t album, funny vocals and a general happy and humorous feeling to the music.
http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1469 - MOVING GELATINE PLATES  - happy sometimes quirky but always fun jazz-rock.
http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=2813 - KOMINTERN  - released an album and another single and they were left wing political act with a funny lyrical content and funny music.
 
 


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Posted By: cmidkiff
Date Posted: January 21 2008 at 12:45
I think humor in music is fine, what I don't like is when the vocals are done in a stupid or non melodic way, like what Zappa does allot.

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Posted By: Flucktrot
Date Posted: January 21 2008 at 12:49
I find plenty of humor in prog, but most of it is of the unintentional variety (except of course for Zappan, who is often legitimately funny). 

For example, I can't take the antics of Fish or early Gabriel seriously (laughter is the only reaction I've ever had to his thurst-dance for the Musical Box finale). 

Other songs are hilarious for their pretentiousness (ELP's The Only Way), or disgusting connotation's (Queen's Misfire). 

Jon Anderson and Roger Watters may be the funniest men in prog without even knowing it Wink


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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: January 21 2008 at 12:49
The whole math rock genre can be considered humorous. Even though the music's mostly instrumental, one can't deny the tongue-in-cheek in their music with song titles such as:
  • Sleeping While Driving Prevents Old Age
  • Delivering the Groceries at 138 Beats per Minute
  • When The Catholic Girls Go Camping, The Nicotine Vampires Rule Supreme.
  • Fripp For Girls
  • That's Some Sick Mouth and Knee Coordination
  • Sausage Full of Secrets
  • Philthy Collins
By the way, It's all 100% real. Big%20smile



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Posted By: magnus
Date Posted: January 21 2008 at 13:12
Originally posted by sean sean wrote:

Originally posted by salmacis salmacis wrote:

 
I don't get any humour from Dream Theater, or a lot of prog metal for that matter. Not knocking it but honestly, humour is about the last attribute I'd look for there unless you count those bits where they throw in the theme tune for The Simpsons or some such...


The humour in Dream Theater I find is when they throw in random ragtime solos and the likes. Also, outside of their music their not very serious, but that really only shows up in the live shows. i think they should let their humour go into the recorded music though, i'd enjoy some funny lyrics over the latest offerings about pharoah zombies and dark masters. although i think the lyrics to the last album at times were so ridiculous that they were funny (dark eternal night) but i don't think they were intended that way.


Also, Mike Portnoy played something on "In the Name of God", if my memory serves me right, that could be interpreted as morse code for "EAT MY ASS AND BALLS EAT MY ASS AND BALLS"


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Posted By: allan Duul II
Date Posted: January 21 2008 at 13:17
Originally posted by chamberry chamberry wrote:

The whole math rock genre can be considered humorous. Even though the music's mostly instrumental, one can't deny the tongue-in-cheek in their music with song titles such as:
  • Sleeping While Driving Prevents Old Age
  • Delivering the Groceries at 138 Beats per Minute
  • When The Catholic Girls Go Camping, The Nicotine Vampires Rule Supreme.
  • Fripp For Girls
  • That's Some Sick Mouth and Knee Coordination
  • Sausage Full of Secrets
  • Philthy Collins
By the way, It's all 100% real. Big%20smile



Don't forget the Samuel Jackson Five ;)


Posted By: profanatio
Date Posted: January 21 2008 at 13:31
Well, everybody seems to agree that humor is ok in prog rock.... unless its done by Emerson, Lake and Palmer, in which case its them being "inconsistent." How does that work?

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Posted By: fuxi
Date Posted: January 21 2008 at 13:44
Don't forget Mike Oldfield! I still think finishing TUBULAR BELLS with the Sailor's Hornpipe was a stroke of genius (especially the BOXED version, featuring Vivian Stanshall), while AMAROK features twists and turns that bring a smile to my face.


Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: January 21 2008 at 13:56
Originally posted by profanatio profanatio wrote:

Well, everybody seems to agree that humor is ok in prog rock.... unless its done by Emerson, Lake and Palmer, in which case its them being "inconsistent." How does that work?


ELP are just not very good at 'doing' humour. They're much funnier when they are dead serious.



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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: January 21 2008 at 13:57
Originally posted by sean sean wrote:

Originally posted by salmacis salmacis wrote:

 
I don't get any humour from Dream Theater, or a lot of prog metal for that matter. Not knocking it but honestly, humour is about the last attribute I'd look for there unless you count those bits where they throw in the theme tune for The Simpsons or some such...


The humour in Dream Theater I find is when they throw in random ragtime solos and the likes. Also, outside of their music their not very serious, but that really only shows up in the live shows. i think they should let their humour go into the recorded music though, i'd enjoy some funny lyrics over the latest offerings about pharoah zombies and dark masters. although i think the lyrics to the last album at times were so ridiculous that they were funny (dark eternal night) but i don't think they were intended that way.


In the "Chaos in Progress" video, even Petrucci for himself couldn't be serious enough while speaking about The Dark Eternal Night lyrics... LOL


Posted By: everyone
Date Posted: January 21 2008 at 15:14
Humor does belong in music as in all aspects of life.  Life is not all that serious all the time.


Posted By: cynthiasmallet
Date Posted: January 21 2008 at 15:18
humour and prog rock go hand in hand in my opinion. Thing is, sometimes it's hard to tell if what the band is doing really is a joke and not some bold yet lacking creative attempt. The prime example of this is Van Leer's yodeling on Hocus Pocus.

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Posted By: Avantgardehead
Date Posted: January 21 2008 at 16:18
Originally posted by salmacis salmacis wrote:

I preferred it when it was vehemently anti-establishment (the earliest Mothers albums, for example) or satirical ('Dancin' Fool', 'Valley Girl', 'Flakes') than the excessive nudge nudge wink wink stuff that characterises too much of that Flo and Eddie period and his 80s albums.


Definitely agree with this. He didn't need profanity or non-stop innuendo to be funny at all, but it seems like his solo albums deteriorate into middle-school attempts at being offensive or shocking (which is why I only listen to his jazz-rock albums and stuff by The Mothers).


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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: January 21 2008 at 16:38
I have nothing against the humour in ELP. I always considered "Benny the Bouncer" or "Jeremy Bender" to be funny.

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Posted By: sean
Date Posted: January 21 2008 at 17:33
Originally posted by magnus magnus wrote:

Originally posted by sean sean wrote:

Originally posted by salmacis salmacis wrote:

 
I don't get any humour from Dream Theater, or a lot of prog metal for that matter. Not knocking it but honestly, humour is about the last attribute I'd look for there unless you count those bits where they throw in the theme tune for The Simpsons or some such...


The humour in Dream Theater I find is when they throw in random ragtime solos and the likes. Also, outside of their music their not very serious, but that really only shows up in the live shows. i think they should let their humour go into the recorded music though, i'd enjoy some funny lyrics over the latest offerings about pharoah zombies and dark masters. although i think the lyrics to the last album at times were so ridiculous that they were funny (dark eternal night) but i don't think they were intended that way.


Also, Mike Portnoy played something on "In the Name of God", if my memory serves me right, that could be interpreted as morse code for "EAT MY ASS AND BALLS EAT MY ASS AND BALLS"


Yes, that's in there. It's somewhat of a catchphrase for the band. When I saw them on the train of thought tour they opened up with As I Am and in one of the chorus's changed the lyrics to "to the doubtful I demand, eat my ass and balls."


Posted By: sean
Date Posted: January 21 2008 at 17:38
Originally posted by Aeternus Aeternus wrote:

Originally posted by sean sean wrote:

Originally posted by salmacis salmacis wrote:

 
I don't get any humour from Dream Theater, or a lot of prog metal for that matter. Not knocking it but honestly, humour is about the last attribute I'd look for there unless you count those bits where they throw in the theme tune for The Simpsons or some such...


The humour in Dream Theater I find is when they throw in random ragtime solos and the likes. Also, outside of their music their not very serious, but that really only shows up in the live shows. i think they should let their humour go into the recorded music though, i'd enjoy some funny lyrics over the latest offerings about pharoah zombies and dark masters. although i think the lyrics to the last album at times were so ridiculous that they were funny (dark eternal night) but i don't think they were intended that way.


In the "Chaos in Progress" video, even Petrucci for himself couldn't be serious enough while speaking about The Dark Eternal Night lyrics... LOL


I noticed that as well. I'm glad he doesn't take that seriously, because it really would be a shame if he did.


Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: January 21 2008 at 20:36
Yup the Canterbury bands > everyone els.

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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: January 21 2008 at 21:21
Originally posted by Zargus Zargus wrote:

Yup the Canterbury bands > everyone els.


amen to that brother.....


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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: January 21 2008 at 21:56
Originally posted by Zargus Zargus wrote:

Yup the Canterbury bands > everyone els.

don't underestimate Guru Guru. they are just as funny as the Canterbury bands


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Posted By: asimplemistake
Date Posted: January 22 2008 at 01:01
I just remembered how funny some of ELECTROCUTION 250's music can be.  Just thought I'd throw that in there...


Also, Mikael Akerfeldt of Opeth has a great sense of humor, just not in the songs


Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: January 22 2008 at 03:03
Originally posted by asimplemistake asimplemistake wrote:



Also, Mikael Akerfeldt of Opeth has a great sense of humor, just not in the songs


Well said!Clap I was quite impressed by his between-songs banter on Opeth's The Roundhouse Tapes. He's got the kind of dry, deadpan humour that I really enjoy, which contrasts nicely with the 'doom'n'gloom' of the band's song titles and lyrics.


Posted By: honganji
Date Posted: January 22 2008 at 03:35
Wha-ha-ha ---> This band name already means laughing voice. Smile
Senba Kiyohiko & Haniwa All Stars ---> 1st album is more comical.
Kitchen Drinkers ---> Their CD is very rare. Maybe you haven't seen it outside of Japan.
Companyia Electrica Dharma ---> Spanish jazz rock band with ding-dong party flavour.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Kichen Drinkers / –Ï‘zƒtƒ‹ƒNƒTƒX ---> 150 copies ? I own this art box.
 
 
 
‚͂ɂí <---- Senba Kiyohiko & Haniwa All Stars / Haniwa
                                        Recent reissued CD seemes to be deleted....
 
 <--- Companyia Electrica Dharma / L'Angel De La Dansa


Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: January 22 2008 at 04:37

ELP's attempts at humour are a very mixed bag. I loved 'The Sheriff' which was good fun lyrically but kept the music generally straight (save the honky-tonk climax) but I'm not fussed on stuff like 'Are You Ready Eddy?'.

The lyrics on 'Systematic Chaos' were the only thing I didn't think so much of. That was the best DT album I've heard but yes, those lyrics got seriously close to Manowar territory, IMHO.



Posted By: Jeremy Bender
Date Posted: January 22 2008 at 05:56

Frank Zappa and Mr.Bungle are great examples. Maybe not that well known but Supersister is a band with a great sense of humor. The track 'WOW' anyone?

As for ELP, maybe not all are examples of humor in the sense of the word(more a feeling of expressing much enjoyment in playing the music).
But I find ELP far more down to earth than Yes, Pink Floyd and maybe even KC.
Examples like the guitar middle in pebble, jeremy bender, that silly song for eddy offord, nutrocker, the sheriff, benny the bouncer, piano improvisations(with numerous cool/funny quotes), the medley of bender/sheriff especially the bit at the end, even the 'pretentious' karn evil 9 has some funny moments imo, la nights, new orleans, tiger in the spotlight, barrelhouse shakedown, honky tonk train blues, show me the way to go home.
Oh and Love Bitch & Toilet Seat are also funny but not in a good way... 


Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: January 22 2008 at 05:58
Originally posted by salmacis salmacis wrote:

ELP's attempts at humour are a very mixed bag. I loved 'The Sheriff' which was good fun lyrically but kept the music generally straight (save the honky-tonk climax) but I'm not fussed on stuff like 'Are You Ready Eddy?'.

The lyrics on 'Systematic Chaos' were the only thing I didn't think so much of. That was the best DT album I've heard but yes, those lyrics got seriously close to Manowar territory, IMHO.


But that's part of the humour. You can't separate the music from the lyrics in the case of "Are you ready, Eddy?" or "Jeremy Bender" from the music; it would definitely be only half as comical then.


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Posted By: Evandro Martini
Date Posted: January 22 2008 at 06:05
This site shows all the humour hidden in Gentle giant:
http://www.blazemonger.com/GG/humor/index.html

For example, an interpretation of the lyrics to Convenience:

 "Convenience" is a euphemism for a public toilet.
I'm sure you understood that this is what Derek is singing about in the GG
song.

"Plastic, plastic, take the modern way"
refers to the trend away from the traditional porcelain.

"Everything is clean and easy"
means that he has found a readily accessible public lavatory with good
standards of hygiene.

"It's for you, for me too"
is clearly a refence to men's urinals which are commonly able to
accommodate a number of users simultaneously.

"Just believe me, it runs like a big machine. It's just for me,
can't you see"
Of course, this is a prophetic allusion to the modern "Superloo" style
toilet, where each user enters a sealed automated cubicle to conduct their
solitary business.

Also on the same album, "Underground" is a further reference to the habit
of placing public conveniences beneath the sidewalks of our towns. And of
course there's "Number One". I don't think I want to discuss "Inside Out".

I hope that's now clear to you all.



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Posted By: Jeremy Bender
Date Posted: January 22 2008 at 07:19
To me Roger Waters as a person is someone with a great sense of(sarcastic) humour.
Mostly after his PF period.
 
Keith Emerson, Rick Wakeman, Nick Mason, Adrian Belew, Bill Bruford, Carl Palmer, Jordan Rudess, Robert Jan Stips and even professor Fripp often take things with a grain of salt.
And don't take themselves too seriously.


Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: January 22 2008 at 07:21
Originally posted by Jeremy Bender Jeremy Bender wrote:

To me Roger Waters as a person is someone with a great sense of(sarcastic) humour.
Mostly after his PF period.
 
Keith Emerson, Rick Wakeman, Nick Mason, Adrian Belew, Bill Bruford, Carl Palmer, Jordan Rudess, Robert Jan Stips and even professor Fripp often take things with a grain of salt.
And don't take themselves too seriously.

This may not be so obvious, but many of the lyrics of Van der Graaf Generator or Peter Hammill have to be taken with a grain of salt. There is a lot of tongue-in-cheek going on there.


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Posted By: Jeremy Bender
Date Posted: January 22 2008 at 08:02

I really really have to check out some VDGG/Hammill. I never did that.



Posted By: coleio
Date Posted: January 22 2008 at 08:30
I find I enjoy serious artists more. I'm not sure why, but I think if I wanted comedy I'd watch a film or read a book. It just doesn't sit well with me in music.


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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: January 22 2008 at 10:29
Originally posted by coleio coleio wrote:

I find I enjoy serious artists more. I'm not sure why, but I think if I wanted comedy I'd watch a film or read a book. It just doesn't sit well with me in music.

"Humour" is by far not the same as "comedy". You can handle serious topics with a good dose of humour. It becomes comedy when all you are out for is a laugh. Take for examples, the movies of the "film noir" era, with stars like Humphrey Bogart or Edward G. Robinson. Those movies aren't comedies at all, yet there is a good dose of humour in them.


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Posted By: clarke2001
Date Posted: January 22 2008 at 11:06
Let us not forget the sicker side of avant-prog: both Captain Beefheart and The Residents are actually  quite funny! Otherwise, the music would be too sick.Smile

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Posted By: sean
Date Posted: January 22 2008 at 12:29
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Originally posted by Jeremy Bender Jeremy Bender wrote:

To me Roger Waters as a person is someone with a great sense of(sarcastic) humour.
Mostly after his PF period.
 
Keith Emerson, Rick Wakeman, Nick Mason, Adrian Belew, Bill Bruford, Carl Palmer, Jordan Rudess, Robert Jan Stips and even professor Fripp often take things with a grain of salt.
And don't take themselves too seriously.

This may not be so obvious, but many of the lyrics of Van der Graaf Generator or Peter Hammill have to be taken with a grain of salt. There is a lot of tongue-in-cheek going on there.


What would you say are some examples of humour in VdGG? I only have Pawn Hearts and Still Life but lately I've come to be rather obsessed with them, I just can't afford to buy more albums at the moment. Anyway, I'd like to hear of when Hammill wrote humourous lyrics because I would imagine his sense of humour would very very unique.

Also, I haven't heard much humour in the King Crimson I've heard, and Robert Fripp seems to be a rather serious person. What songs have they injected humour into, I think that'd be interesting.


Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: January 22 2008 at 12:40
"Cat Food" (on "In the Wake of Poseidon") and "Happy Family" (on "Lizard") are definitely examples of humour in King Crimson.
As for Hammill: You have one example of his humour in your signature line. "Fishes can't fly"? Now really!


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Posted By: sean
Date Posted: January 22 2008 at 12:43
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

"Cat Food" (on "In the Wake of Poseidon") and "Happy Family" (on "Lizard") are definitely examples of humour in King Crimson.
As for Hammill: You have one example of his humour in your signature line. "Fishes can't fly"? Now really!


Taken on its own, that line from Killer is pretty funny, but the song as a whole seems pretty serious.


Posted By: laplace
Date Posted: January 22 2008 at 12:49
Robert Fripp is depicted as a rather sour person - mostly because of his opinions and coolness towards the audience - but to hear him speak is a revelation; there aren't many more charming men in music. However, I think it's Belew that adds most of the humour to King Crimson.

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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: January 22 2008 at 12:51
Originally posted by sean sean wrote:

Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

"Cat Food" (on "In the Wake of Poseidon") and "Happy Family" (on "Lizard") are definitely examples of humour in King Crimson.
As for Hammill: You have one example of his humour in your signature line. "Fishes can't fly"? Now really!


Taken on its own, that line from Killer is pretty funny, but the song as a whole seems pretty serious.

Yes, but I remember having read or heard an interview with Peter Hammill in which he explained that many of his lyrics should be taken with a grain of salt, and he especially pointed out this line. So while of course he deals with dark themes he often exaggerates them. This is even true for the lyrics on "Over", for example "Crying Wolf". Yes, he himself feels everything of what he writes about in this song, and yet he also takes the position of objective observer and makes fun of himself. "Crying wolf from the depths of your sheep's heart". This is a funny line, if you look at it closely.


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Posted By: sean
Date Posted: January 22 2008 at 12:52
Originally posted by laplace laplace wrote:

Robert Fripp is depicted as a rather sour person - mostly because of his opinions and coolness towards the audience - but to hear him speak is a revelation; there aren't many more charming men in music. However, I think it's Belew that adds most of the humour to King Crimson.


Now that you mention it, I remember downloading a guitar craft class from DGM live for free, even though I'm not a guitarist,  and listening to Fripp explain things was rather interesting. Sometimes it seemed that even if he wasn't trying to be funny he was funny just because of his manner of explanation.

As to Belew, I think at times his voice is just funny, such as in "Elephant Talk"


Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: January 22 2008 at 13:12
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Originally posted by sean sean wrote:

Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

"Cat Food" (on "In the Wake of Poseidon") and "Happy Family" (on "Lizard") are definitely examples of humour in King Crimson.
As for Hammill: You have one example of his humour in your signature line. "Fishes can't fly"? Now really!


Taken on its own, that line from Killer is pretty funny, but the song as a whole seems pretty serious.

Yes, but I remember having read or heard an interview with Peter Hammill in which he explained that many of his lyrics should be taken with a grain of salt, and he especially pointed out this line. So while of course he deals with dark themes he often exaggerates them. This is even true for the lyrics on "Over", for example "Crying Wolf". Yes, he himself feels everything of what he writes about in this song, and yet he also takes the position of objective observer and makes fun of himself. "Crying wolf from the depths of your sheep's heart". This is a funny line, if you look at it closely.

Oh, and how about this:
He'd like you to call him lucky,
the original self-made man;
no sense of wide-screen vision,
no gender strangeness he can understand.

Roll on the old, old story,
you can call it original sin;
yeh, stamp that one in his passport,
paste it and colour it in.

Colour in a history of pride and prejudice;
what he wants is mystery, but what he gets is this:
a kick to kill the kiss.

He thinks it fair competition,
somehow having and eating the cake,
when the women are in their bodies

and the men are all over the place.
This is definitely very much tongue in cheek.


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Posted By: sean
Date Posted: January 22 2008 at 13:15
I see what you mean. Do you have more examples of humour in Hammill's writings? You know, something for me to look more into in my growing VdGG obsesssion.


Also, with regard to ELP, I think their humourous songs are necessary just to counterbalance the super-serious ones, and I think they are great fun if you just ignore the fact that they're not 20 minute epic suites.


Posted By: sean
Date Posted: January 22 2008 at 13:16
Also, I don't recall Rush being mentioned but they're pretty funny guys, mostly outside of the music though. 


Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: January 22 2008 at 13:21

Peter Sinfield was the primary lyrics writer for King Crimson's early albums as well as on some of the Emerson Lake and Palmer albums.  Off hand, I don't know what he wrote for ELP, but I believe that Benny the Bouncer may have been his, same as the earlier mentioned King Crimson songs.  I would also add Ladies on the Road to songs with humor in them from King Crimson.



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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: January 22 2008 at 17:01
I don't understand those who say humor does not belong into prog. in classical music there is a lot of humor. Mozart wrote a choral for the words "Leck mich am Arsch" ("Kiss my Ass"), Bach wrote his famous "Kaffeekantate" ("Coffee Cantata"), which is full of humor, Haydn has been called "the biggest musical joker of all times" by Leonard Bernstein, even Brahms, who is usually viewed as being without humor, showed some for his "Akademische Festovertüre", and this list could be continued endlessly. and yes, even Wagner can be funny (albeit sometimes unintentionally); in his "Meistersinger von Nürnberg", for example. and we proggers have to stay a humorless bunch? come on!

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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: January 22 2008 at 19:57
this isn't me trying to defend the band, but I kind of took the lyrics of Systematic Chaos (at least choice songs like The Dark Eternal Night, the others may vary) as a route of not taking themselves too seriously. The animation they played for The Dark Eternal Night in concert was hilarious

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Posted By: sean
Date Posted: January 22 2008 at 19:59
Originally posted by heyitsthatguy heyitsthatguy wrote:

this isn't me trying to defend the band, but I kind of took the lyrics of Systematic Chaos (at least choice songs like The Dark Eternal Night, the others may vary) as a route of not taking themselves too seriously. The animation they played for The Dark Eternal Night in concert was hilarious


Don't worry,  I have the same view. I don't know if it's possible to think of anything but non-seriousness when seeing lyrics like The Dark Eternal Night. The footage was hilarious for that song. I don't know if you saw them on the Octavarium tour, but they had some pretty funny animations for Octavarium.


Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: January 22 2008 at 20:00
also Devin Townsend uses his fair share of humor throughout his music, with songs like Bad Devil (and a lot of Infinity actually) and albums like Ziltoid the Omniscient....what's even better is that oftentimes there's a relevant connection to the humor and the point he's trying to get across

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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: January 22 2008 at 20:02
Originally posted by sean sean wrote:

Originally posted by heyitsthatguy heyitsthatguy wrote:

this isn't me trying to defend the band, but I kind of took the lyrics of Systematic Chaos (at least choice songs like The Dark Eternal Night, the others may vary) as a route of not taking themselves too seriously. The animation they played for The Dark Eternal Night in concert was hilarious


Don't worry,  I have the same view. I don't know if it's possible to think of anything but non-seriousness when seeing lyrics like The Dark Eternal Night. The footage was hilarious for that song. I don't know if you saw them on the Octavarium tour, but they had some pretty funny animations for Octavarium.


I was there the night of the Score DVD Embarrassed that was a great animation as well...also the whole free word association part of that song could be viewed as humorous (sailing on the seven seize the day tripper)


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Posted By: Electrick Gypsy
Date Posted: January 22 2008 at 22:16
Originally posted by Zargus Zargus wrote:

Yup the Canterbury bands > everyone els.


Uh hu Before all those Canterbury bands started to evolve, usually into fusion groups, a silly feeling was completely necessary. Look at early, early Gong and Kevin Ayre's work, was there even anything serious in there?


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Posted By: sean
Date Posted: January 22 2008 at 22:31
Originally posted by heyitsthatguy heyitsthatguy wrote:

Originally posted by sean sean wrote:

Originally posted by heyitsthatguy heyitsthatguy wrote:

this isn't me trying to defend the band, but I kind of took the lyrics of Systematic Chaos (at least choice songs like The Dark Eternal Night, the others may vary) as a route of not taking themselves too seriously. The animation they played for The Dark Eternal Night in concert was hilarious


Don't worry,  I have the same view. I don't know if it's possible to think of anything but non-seriousness when seeing lyrics like The Dark Eternal Night. The footage was hilarious for that song. I don't know if you saw them on the Octavarium tour, but they had some pretty funny animations for Octavarium.


I was there the night of the Score DVD Embarrassed that was a great animation as well...also the whole free word association part of that song could be viewed as humorous (sailing on the seven seize the day tripper)


diems ready, jack the ripper owens wilson, phillips and my supper's ready...

score is probably my favourite DVD of theirs. I know this is a completely irrelevant but that was a great show. I went to the one in CT a couple days before. I wish I had been there though.


Posted By: cacha71
Date Posted: January 23 2008 at 06:05
Jethro Tull and Roger Waters are amusing but Frank Zappa tops them all.  I listened to "Father O'Blivion" from "Apostrophe" for the first time when I was sitting in the airport and I just burst out laughing.  I got some really funny looks, I can tell you - it was embarrassing!

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Posted By: RaphaelT
Date Posted: January 23 2008 at 10:53
Nobody mentions The "saint" Flower Kings and I recently have found a great line in The Sume Of No Reason:
 
Dropped down in frying pan - together we will fry.
 
I find it quite humorous, even black humour (play on words with 'together we will fly")
 
Coming back to Peter Hammill - let's take for instance the classic 'Man Erg' - see the contrast between gentle piano introduction and angelic, sweet voice singing "A killer lives inside me"


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Posted By: Mousoleum
Date Posted: January 23 2008 at 16:37
Originally posted by heyitsthatguy heyitsthatguy wrote:

this isn't me trying to defend the band, but I kind of took the lyrics of Systematic Chaos (at least choice songs like The Dark Eternal Night, the others may vary) as a route of not taking themselves too seriously. The animation they played for The Dark Eternal Night in concert was hilarious


I don't have anything to follow on your post.
Just wanted to say how much I hate "PATIENCE!!!"

Back to humor.

I think Spock's Beard can be musically/lyrically amusing.

Pain of Salvation's Scarsick was darkly funny.




Posted By: Sckxyss
Date Posted: January 23 2008 at 16:45
I like playful/humourous songwriting, but I don't care for humourous lyrics. In the rare case that they're actually funny, they get less and less funny the more you hear them anyway.


Posted By: sean
Date Posted: January 23 2008 at 19:14
Originally posted by Sckxyss Sckxyss wrote:

I like playful/humourous songwriting, but I don't care for humourous lyrics. In the rare case that they're actually funny, they get less and less funny the more you hear them anyway.


I don't know, for me, I still find humourous lyrics funny even after repeated listens. I don't think I'll ever get sick of Zappa.


Posted By: Starette
Date Posted: January 23 2008 at 20:59
If the music is good- THATs what matters but I have to admit that from time to time subtle humour or little quirks in the lyrics/action is quite cool to hear.
 
"Now chance of finding a woman who would love you all the day and all the night time too (ooh!)"- Jethro Tull
 
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Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: January 23 2008 at 23:26
Smile See also this old thread (one of the first I ever started here) for some earlier thoughts on this subject:
 
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=186&KW=humour - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=186&KW=humour


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Posted By: sean
Date Posted: January 23 2008 at 23:43
Originally posted by Peter Peter wrote:

Smile See also this old thread (one of the first I ever started here) for some earlier thoughts on this subject:
 
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=186&KW=humour - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=186&KW=humour


Thanks for the link. When I started this topic I ran a search but nothing came up.

Anyway, some interesting discussion in that one as well.


Posted By: sean
Date Posted: January 24 2008 at 00:36
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

"Cat Food" (on "In the Wake of Poseidon") and "Happy Family" (on "Lizard") are definitely examples of humour in King Crimson.
As for Hammill: You have one example of his humour in your signature line. "Fishes can't fly"? Now really!


By the way, I noticed in another thread you mentioned interviews with Hammill where he talks about his lyrics. Any chance you have a link to one of those? I'd love to read it.


Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: January 24 2008 at 00:51
Originally posted by sean sean wrote:

Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

"Cat Food" (on "In the Wake of Poseidon") and "Happy Family" (on "Lizard") are definitely examples of humour in King Crimson.
As for Hammill: You have one example of his humour in your signature line. "Fishes can't fly"? Now really!


By the way, I noticed in another thread you mentioned interviews with Hammill where he talks about his lyrics. Any chance you have a link to one of those? I'd love to read it.

these are links to a lengthy interview with Hammill, where he talks about a lot of things. it is divided into several segments, but it is one long interview. I think you will enjoy it:


http://www.faceculture.nl/peterhammill/index.htm# - Peter Hammill about his urge to make music, finding different ways, his heart attack, the experience and being mortal!! (6.09)

http://www.faceculture.nl/peterhammill/index.htm# - Peter Hammill about Singularity and personal changes!! (5.51)

http://www.faceculture.nl/peterhammill/index.htm# - Peter Hammill about the death of his mother and mortality in general!! (4.01)

http://www.faceculture.nl/peterhammill/index.htm# - Peter Hammill about the process of songwriting, asking questions in his music and the Peter Hammill from the past!! (4.31)

http://www.faceculture.nl/peterhammill/index.htm# - Peter Hammill about what keeps him going, his most intense period, being self obsessed and the danger of going nuts!! (5.02)

http://www.faceculture.nl/peterhammill/index.htm# - Peter Hammill about the reunion of Van Der Graaf Generator, meeting his bandmates at funerals, the problems with David Jackson and going on as a trio!! (5.08)

http://www.faceculture.nl/peterhammill/index.htm# - Peter Hammill about creative ambitions, David Bowie and Peter Gabriel and not wanting big success!! (3.05)

http://www.faceculture.nl/peterhammill/index.htm# - Peter Hammill about his independence and the myth of breaking up Van Der Graaf Generator just when they became successful!! (3.02)




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Posted By: kiwi
Date Posted: January 25 2008 at 01:40
Originally posted by salmacis salmacis wrote:

 
10cc have not been mentioned. I'd shy from calling their music pure prog but it does have an influence from that, IMHO- particularly the near masterpiece 'The Original Soundtrack'. 'Une Nuit In Paris' is almost a bit of mock-prog, but most of the album has some very witty, sometimes hilarious lyrics.
 


Godley and Crene? of 10cc had an album with Peter Cook doing some vocals (it would be a stretch to call it singing) with some witty lyrics. It included an innovative song using the sound of water drops. Does anyone recall this.

Eno's "Back in Judy's Jungle" is an excellent parody of war-time song. It even has old style drumming. "We hit the jungle just as it starts to monsoon. Our maps showed no rainfall - all the boys were depressed by the circumstance..." and "I got the job because I was so mean while somehow appearing so kind".



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Posted By: fuxi
Date Posted: January 27 2008 at 16:31
All of the best artists have a great sense of humour. In music, as BaldJean said, this goes for many of the best classical composers. In prog - do you think Rick Wakeman had KING ARTHUR performed on ice for SERIOUS reasons? Believe me, friends, it was all tongue-in-cheek! But with many jokes the problem is they only work once or twice. Take Zappa's YOU CAN'T DO THAT ON STAGE ANYMORE VOL. II (The Helsinki Concert). The musicianship is superb (Chester Thompson on drums alone makes the album worth buying!) but there are too many silly jokes about room service (or the lack thereof) in European (particularly German) hotels. When you play STAGE II for the first time, such jokes may sound amusing, but after that they start to grate...


Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: January 27 2008 at 16:59
Originally posted by Mousoleum Mousoleum wrote:

Originally posted by heyitsthatguy heyitsthatguy wrote:

this isn't me trying to defend the band, but I kind of took the lyrics of Systematic Chaos (at least choice songs like The Dark Eternal Night, the others may vary) as a route of not taking themselves too seriously. The animation they played for The Dark Eternal Night in concert was hilarious


I don't have anything to follow on your post.
Just wanted to say how much I hate "PATIENCE!!!"

Back to humor.

I think Spock's Beard can be musically/lyrically amusing.

Pain of Salvation's Scarsick was darkly funny.




patience
payshun
patience
payshun
x 30000


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Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: January 27 2008 at 18:21
Originally posted by heyitsthatguy heyitsthatguy wrote:

Originally posted by Mousoleum Mousoleum wrote:

Originally posted by heyitsthatguy heyitsthatguy wrote:

this isn't me trying to defend the band, but I kind of took the lyrics of Systematic Chaos (at least choice songs like The Dark Eternal Night, the others may vary) as a route of not taking themselves too seriously. The animation they played for The Dark Eternal Night in concert was hilarious


I don't have anything to follow on your post.
Just wanted to say how much I hate "PATIENCE!!!"

Back to humor.

I think Spock's Beard can be musically/lyrically amusing.

Pain of Salvation's Scarsick was darkly funny.




patience
payshun
patience
payshun
x 30000

We don't take kindly to hating Showzen in these parts


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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: January 28 2008 at 02:05
the best humor in music are those funny sounding melodies that appear in many artists' music. the best example of this would probably be Zappa's "The Adventures of Greggory Peccary". not to mention it's also one mammoth of a song!! those horns man!!

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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: January 28 2008 at 07:42
Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

the best humor in music are those funny sounding melodies that appear in many artists' music. the best example of this would probably be Zappa's "The Adventures of Greggory Peccary". not to mention it's also one mammoth of a song!! those horns man!!

I agree. just take for example the track "Tröller Tanz" from Magma's "Üdü Wüdü" album. It is supposed to be some kind of ghost dance, but the melody definitely is funny. or think of the infamous cha-cha part in VdGG's "Sleepwalkers", which Sean Trane does not like, but which I think is definitely humorous


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Posted By: T.Rox
Date Posted: January 28 2008 at 08:28
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

I have nothing against the humour in ELP. I always considered "Benny the Bouncer" or "Jeremy Bender" to be funny.
 
 
 
I'm with you, Friede. I think these songs are great and in the same mould as The Beatles "Rocky Racoon".
 
 
 
Originally posted by kiwi kiwi wrote:

Eno's "Back in Judy's Jungle" is an excellent parody of war-time song. It even has old style drumming. "We hit the jungle just as it starts to monsoon. Our maps showed no rainfall - all the boys were depressed by the circumstance..." and "I got the job because I was so mean while somehow appearing so kind".
 
 
 
"Back In Judy's Jungle" is a great track full of humour, as is much of the Taking Tiger Mountain (By Strategy) album. 
 
 
 
I do like Zappa's humour, though much of it dates because of the references to events in time. I particularly like "Billy The Mountain", as dated as it is (and I know it to the point where I am just about word perfect). What does that say about me? ...there was a lot of wasted time in the library audio booths at high school when I should have been studying LOL
 
Gnidrolog's "My Mother" from Live 1972 has some humorous lyrics that tickle me each time I hear it.
 
And The Cheerful Insanity Of Giles, Giles & Fripp album comes to mind, too. 
 
Yes, humour does belong in progressive music! Thumbs%20Up
 


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Posted By: sean
Date Posted: January 28 2008 at 11:06
Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

the best humor in music are those funny sounding melodies that appear in many artists' music. the best example of this would probably be Zappa's "The Adventures of Greggory Peccary". not to mention it's also one mammoth of a song!! those horns man!!

I agree. just take for example the track "Tr�ller Tanz" from Magma's "�d� W�d�" album. It is supposed to be some kind of ghost dance, but the melody definitely is funny. or think of the infamous cha-cha part in VdGG's "Sleepwalkers", which Sean Trane does not like, but which I think is definitely humorous


"Sleepwalkers" threw me off the first time I heard it. For the most part it seemed a rather solemn song, and then that section came on and it does sound quite funny.


Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: January 28 2008 at 11:38
Prelude to the Afternoon of a Sexually Aroused Gas Mask by Frank Zappa. Never fails to leave me in stitches

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Posted By: sean
Date Posted: January 28 2008 at 16:25
Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:

Prelude to the Afternoon of a Sexually Aroused Gas Mask by Frank Zappa. Never fails to leave my in stitches


Just  the title alone can do that. I've never even heard the song but I'm laughing.


Posted By: Losendos
Date Posted: January 28 2008 at 21:32
I find the whole genre funny bombastic, pretentious overblown , references to the ancient gods , words used as soundscapes. It's good music wrapped in absurdity .
 
Roger Waters is so unintentionally funny ( as the self appointed savior of the world ) as is Jon Anderson ( as he lifts himslef into the spiritual stratosphere ).The Lamb is really funny as it starts as social commentary and while you try to get the point it slips into esoterica and then when you try to find the point it changes to the story ofsome punk trying to retrieve his severed phallus..ELP( as the rewriter of the classics) what to speak of Jethro Tull (bounding out of the woods as some sort of modern day jack in the green) . Hey who isn't funny out there ?


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Posted By: penguindf12
Date Posted: January 29 2008 at 23:17
When it comes to humor, Bob Drake simply must be mentioned; he was in Thinking Plague, but his solo material is much funnier - think more 5uu's-style lyrics meets HP Lovecraft meets, I dunno, some really funny stuff. He just got added to the archives, check it out: http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=3476 - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=3476


Posted By: electricsilence
Date Posted: January 31 2008 at 13:05
Grobschnitt has some very funny stuff; IMO opinion Rockpommel's Land is a very big, and very good, mock on english symphony prog.



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