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Topic: Prog 2.0 Album Covers
Posted By: sigod
Subject: Prog 2.0 Album Covers
Date Posted: March 12 2008 at 08:00
A few examples of the new generation of prog cover art. Any others you might suggest?














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Posted By: jalist
Date Posted: March 12 2008 at 08:54
http://bigbigtrain.blogspot.com/">


Posted By: sigod
Date Posted: March 12 2008 at 09:19
Originally posted by jalist jalist wrote:

http://bigbigtrain.blogspot.com/">

Ah yes, Big Big Train. I love this cover. Clap


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I must remind the right honourable gentleman that a monologue is not a decision.
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Posted By: sigod
Date Posted: March 12 2008 at 09:55
A few more for you.




A Silver Mt Zion


Muse (single cover)


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I must remind the right honourable gentleman that a monologue is not a decision.
- Clement Atlee, on Winston Churchill


Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: March 12 2008 at 10:21
I think  this stuff is trying waaaaaaaaaay too hard. I mean, that last one with the bird formation formed into the shape of a butterfly, c`mon it looks like some sort of cover you would find on the of some Windham Hill new age album from 1983. Then again, I`m from the mid 16th century when Roger Dean and Hipgnosis were the rage. Also these bands, save for Marillion aren`t even porgrock bands.

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Posted By: sigod
Date Posted: March 12 2008 at 10:33
Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

I think  this stuff is trying waaaaaaaaaay too hard. I mean, that last one with the bird formation formed into the shape of a butterfly, c`mon it looks like some sort of cover you would find on the of some Windham Hill new age album from 1983. Then again, I`m from the mid 16th century when Roger Dean and Hipgnosis were the rage. Also these bands, save for Marillion aren`t even porgrock bands.


Let me get this straight, are you saying that Porcupine Tree, Frost, Kino, etc are NOT Prog rock bands? Confused


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I must remind the right honourable gentleman that a monologue is not a decision.
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Posted By: Visitor13
Date Posted: March 12 2008 at 10:36
Originally posted by sigod sigod wrote:

Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

I think  this stuff is trying waaaaaaaaaay too hard. I mean, that last one with the bird formation formed into the shape of a butterfly, c`mon it looks like some sort of cover you would find on the of some Windham Hill new age album from 1983. Then again, I`m from the mid 16th century when Roger Dean and Hipgnosis were the rage. Also these bands, save for Marillion aren`t even porgrock bands.


Let me get this straight, are you saying that Porcupine Tree, Frost, Kino, etc are NOT Prog rock bands? Confused


Firstly, nice to see you back, Sigod Clap

Secondly, that etc. includes The Jelly Jam, and I'd like to know if VB believes they're not prog either.


Posted By: Man Erg
Date Posted: March 12 2008 at 10:41
Off topic,sorry

Hello,Simon

Pop into the Grey Room for a cuppa...

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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: March 12 2008 at 10:51
Originally posted by sigod sigod wrote:

Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

I think  this stuff is trying waaaaaaaaaay too hard. I mean, that last one with the bird formation formed into the shape of a butterfly, c`mon it looks like some sort of cover you would find on the of some Windham Hill new age album from 1983. Then again, I`m from the mid 16th century when Roger Dean and Hipgnosis were the rage. Also these bands, save for Marillion aren`t even porgrock bands.


Let me get this straight, are you saying that Porcupine Tree, Frost, Kino, etc are NOT Prog rock bands? Confused
Not for me. Prog for me ended around 1976. Hey don`t get me wrong some nice creativeness going on in those photos but I can`t see them as covers for prog albums. Also, I`ve tried and tried and tried to get into Porcupine Tree with the intention of maybe writing a review but either the review that I would write would be reported as inappropriate or deleted altogether. I might as well be listening to Hip Hop than listening to some of these newer bands.

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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: March 12 2008 at 11:33
Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

I think  this stuff is trying waaaaaaaaaay too hard. I mean, that last one with the bird formation formed into the shape of a butterfly, c`mon it looks like some sort of cover you would find on the of some Windham Hill new age album from 1983. Then again, I`m from the mid 16th century when Roger Dean and Hipgnosis were the rage. Also these bands, save for Marillion aren`t even porgrock bands.
That Muse cover was done by Storm Thorgerson at Hipgnosis. (as are the Mars Volta covers)


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Posted By: sigod
Date Posted: March 12 2008 at 11:39
Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

Originally posted by sigod sigod wrote:

Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

I think  this stuff is trying waaaaaaaaaay too hard. I mean, that last one with the bird formation formed into the shape of a butterfly, c`mon it looks like some sort of cover you would find on the of some Windham Hill new age album from 1983. Then again, I`m from the mid 16th century when Roger Dean and Hipgnosis were the rage. Also these bands, save for Marillion aren`t even porgrock bands.


Let me get this straight, are you saying that Porcupine Tree, Frost, Kino, etc are NOT Prog rock bands? Confused
Not for me. Prog for me ended around 1976. Hey don`t get me wrong some nice creativeness going on in those photos but I can`t see them as covers for prog albums. Also, I`ve tried and tried and tried to get into Porcupine Tree with the intention of maybe writing a review but either the review that I would write would be reported as inappropriate or deleted altogether. I might as well be listening to Hip Hop than listening to some of these newer bands.


Ah well if prog ended for you in 1976 then I guess this thread really won't be your cup of mead. Smile  At least you have given Porcupine Tree a spin so more power to you sir. As for not being prog album covers, well the world moves on and I for one would lay down lay down and die if I there was no attempt to develop the concept further.

That said, I admire your candour and honesty in this mater VB. Thumbs%20Up



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Posted By: sigod
Date Posted: March 12 2008 at 11:41
Originally posted by Visitor13 Visitor13 wrote:

Originally posted by sigod sigod wrote:

Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

I think  this stuff is trying waaaaaaaaaay too hard. I mean, that last one with the bird formation formed into the shape of a butterfly, c`mon it looks like some sort of cover you would find on the of some Windham Hill new age album from 1983. Then again, I`m from the mid 16th century when Roger Dean and Hipgnosis were the rage. Also these bands, save for Marillion aren`t even porgrock bands.


Let me get this straight, are you saying that Porcupine Tree, Frost, Kino, etc are NOT Prog rock bands? Confused


Firstly, nice to see you back, Sigod Clap

Secondly, that etc. includes The Jelly Jam, and I'd like to know if VB believes they're not prog either.


Thanks for the warm welcome Visitor. It's nice to be back. Big%20smile


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I must remind the right honourable gentleman that a monologue is not a decision.
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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: March 12 2008 at 11:45
Originally posted by darqDean darqDean wrote:

Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

I think  this stuff is trying waaaaaaaaaay too hard. I mean, that last one with the bird formation formed into the shape of a butterfly, c`mon it looks like some sort of cover you would find on the of some Windham Hill new age album from 1983. Then again, I`m from the mid 16th century when Roger Dean and Hipgnosis were the rage. Also these bands, save for Marillion aren`t even porgrock bands.
That Muse cover was done by Storm Thorgerson at Hipgnosis. (as are the Mars Volta covers)
I was obviously refering to the Hipgnosis artwork from the seventies. Why Storm would sellout like that escapes me. I have his new book on order and please God, I hope it`s not going to be full of all this new crap.

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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: March 12 2008 at 11:56
Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

Originally posted by darqDean darqDean wrote:

Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

I think  this stuff is trying waaaaaaaaaay too hard. I mean, that last one with the bird formation formed into the shape of a butterfly, c`mon it looks like some sort of cover you would find on the of some Windham Hill new age album from 1983. Then again, I`m from the mid 16th century when Roger Dean and Hipgnosis were the rage. Also these bands, save for Marillion aren`t even porgrock bands.
That Muse cover was done by Storm Thorgerson at Hipgnosis. (as are the Mars Volta covers)
I was obviously refering to the Hipgnosis artwork from the seventies. Why Storm would sellout like that escapes me. I have his new book on order and please God, I hope it`s not going to be full of all this new crap.
If you are refering to "Eye Of The Storm" then you won't be too disapointed, but not everything he did in the 70s & 80s was a masterpiece Wink (Tormato anyone?)


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Posted By: sigod
Date Posted: March 12 2008 at 12:20
Originally posted by Man Erg Man Erg wrote:

Off topic,sorry

Hello,Simon

Pop into the Grey Room for a cuppa...


Ooh, yes please...milk and two sugars!


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I must remind the right honourable gentleman that a monologue is not a decision.
- Clement Atlee, on Winston Churchill


Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: March 12 2008 at 13:20
Originally posted by darqDean darqDean wrote:

Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

Originally posted by darqDean darqDean wrote:

Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

I think  this stuff is trying waaaaaaaaaay too hard. I mean, that last one with the bird formation formed into the shape of a butterfly, c`mon it looks like some sort of cover you would find on the of some Windham Hill new age album from 1983. Then again, I`m from the mid 16th century when Roger Dean and Hipgnosis were the rage. Also these bands, save for Marillion aren`t even porgrock bands.
That Muse cover was done by Storm Thorgerson at Hipgnosis. (as are the Mars Volta covers)
I was obviously refering to the Hipgnosis artwork from the seventies. Why Storm would sellout like that escapes me. I have his new book on order and please God, I hope it`s not going to be full of all this new crap.
If you are refering to "Eye Of The Storm" then you won't be too disapointed, but not everything he did in the 70s & 80s was a masterpiece Wink (Tormato anyone?)
Well if I remember correctly it was Rick Wakeman who put the final touch on the Tormato cover if you remember as correctly as I do. Rick no liked nice picture so Rick throw Tomato at nice picture. I printed off that butterfly picture and brought it to a lunch rendezvous I just had with a few friends. I didn`t tell them where it was from, who created it etc. and one of the ladies said it was cute and looked like something her 7 year old daughter would come up with, so there ya go. And yup it is Eye Of The Storm and man, I dunno I`m going to have to take a goood look through it before I either take it or ask for my deposit back. Maybe Storm is going senile in his advancing years.

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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: March 12 2008 at 14:15
Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

I think  this stuff is trying waaaaaaaaaay too hard. I mean, that last one with the bird formation formed into the shape of a butterfly, c`mon it looks like some sort of cover you would find on the of some Windham Hill new age album from 1983. Then again, I`m from the mid 16th century when Roger Dean and Hipgnosis were the rage. Also these bands, save for Marillion aren`t even porgrock bands.


actually many of the covers posted are much like the sort of designs Hipgnosis was coming up with at the time, though these may not be quite as edgy




Posted By: mellors
Date Posted: March 12 2008 at 14:51


is the best 21st Century prog cover for me


Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: March 12 2008 at 14:54
Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

I think  this stuff is trying waaaaaaaaaay too hard. I mean, that last one with the bird formation formed into the shape of a butterfly, c`mon it looks like some sort of cover you would find on the of some Windham Hill new age album from 1983. Then again, I`m from the mid 16th century when Roger Dean and Hipgnosis were the rage. Also these bands, save for Marillion aren`t even porgrock bands.

I don't agree. that butterfly made of birds is just as surreal as the landscapes of Roger Dean, so there definitely is a similarity


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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: March 12 2008 at 15:05
Then why, as I mentioned a little up the page did a friend of mine say today at lunch that it looks like something her 7 year -old daughter would create ?????Confused I don`t think a 7 year old kid is going to come up with anything anywhere near any of Dean`s sureal landscapes. Seriously I don`t.

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Posted By: sigod
Date Posted: March 12 2008 at 15:49
Originally posted by mellors mellors wrote:



is the best 21st Century prog cover for me


I agree Mellors, that is a great cover. Storm still has it IMO. Clap

On a wider point, I too see the influence left by Hipgnosis and particularly Storm Thorgerson in some of the cover art of today. It's good that so many contemporary artists acknowledge the great depth of vision the proceeding generation of designers had. As Robert Fripp once said "We advance by coming from."

 


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Posted By: sigod
Date Posted: March 12 2008 at 15:57
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

I think  this stuff is trying waaaaaaaaaay too hard. I mean, that last one with the bird formation formed into the shape of a butterfly, c`mon it looks like some sort of cover you would find on the of some Windham Hill new age album from 1983. Then again, I`m from the mid 16th century when Roger Dean and Hipgnosis were the rage. Also these bands, save for Marillion aren`t even porgrock bands.


actually many of the covers posted are much like the sort of designs Hipgnosis was coming up with at the time, though these may not be quite as edgy


That's certainly a thought Atavachron. Would you be happy to post some contemporary examples of cover art you think might better fit the bill?



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I must remind the right honourable gentleman that a monologue is not a decision.
- Clement Atlee, on Winston Churchill


Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: March 12 2008 at 17:02
Originally posted by Visitor13 Visitor13 wrote:

Originally posted by sigod sigod wrote:

Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

I think  this stuff is trying waaaaaaaaaay too hard. I mean, that last one with the bird formation formed into the shape of a butterfly, c`mon it looks like some sort of cover you would find on the of some Windham Hill new age album from 1983. Then again, I`m from the mid 16th century when Roger Dean and Hipgnosis were the rage. Also these bands, save for Marillion aren`t even porgrock bands.


Let me get this straight, are you saying that Porcupine Tree, Frost, Kino, etc are NOT Prog rock bands? Confused


Firstly, nice to see you back, Sigod Clap

Secondly, that etc. includes The Jelly Jam, and I'd like to know if VB believes they're not prog either.


I think it would be best to just agree with VB that these groups are not "porg" Wink


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Posted By: BroSpence
Date Posted: March 12 2008 at 19:07
Looks like ECM covers meets Fantasia.


Posted By: KoS
Date Posted: March 12 2008 at 21:33
Tool/Alex Grey covers




Posted By: sigod
Date Posted: March 13 2008 at 05:59
Of course, Tool! How could I have over looked them? Thanks KoS.

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I must remind the right honourable gentleman that a monologue is not a decision.
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: March 13 2008 at 06:12


Technically not prog, but a really nice concept: The album comes with a little "filter lense" which reveals images hidden in the grey lines.


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Posted By: sigod
Date Posted: March 13 2008 at 06:26
That's cool Mike, shame we can see the image here. I think Lou Reed did something similar with one of his post 'New York' albums.




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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: March 13 2008 at 06:51
^ well that's one more incentive to buy the album, just like Tool and their 3D stereoscopic lenses on 10,000 days. Smile


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Posted By: sigod
Date Posted: March 13 2008 at 09:39
Heh, yes indeed Mike. Smile

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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: March 13 2008 at 10:14
I'll post some of my favourites.
















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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: March 13 2008 at 10:49
I have just have one more thing to add and then I`m bailing out of this disscussion on "porg" album art. As I mentioned on page one of the thread on my lunch hour yesterday I showed that Butterfly graphic by Storm T to a friend and she remarked that it was cute and looked like something her 7 year old daughter would create in art class at school. Now, I hooked up with one of my old flying buddies last night and couldn`t resist. I had the butterfly picture folded up in my pocket and took it out and showed it to him  Here`s an abridged version of our conversation:
I said " Dave, what do you make of this?" Immediately he replied " looks like something some ( fill in the blank ) would paint. I said, " C`mon ****head  it was done by a 7 year old girl on her computer in her art class, I think it`s quite nice." He the took another look at it and said ," Isn`t it incredible what the kids can do on computers today. This kid is going places. " Blah blah blah
You get the gist. My point is that you guys are reading too much into this stuff. We`re not talking  Vincent van Gogh, Edvard Munch, Pablo Pcasso or even Francis Bacon here. It`s rock album art. ROCK FREAKING ALBUM ART Don`t read too much into it or take it too seriously for freak sake! there! Have fun with the rest of your deepest of deep musings.

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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: March 13 2008 at 12:10
^That sounds like you were fishing for a specific answer and so deliberatly lied to the guy to get it.



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Posted By: popeyethecat
Date Posted: March 13 2008 at 13:16
Actually, I wrote about the butterfly cover in my school Art project. I think you're missing the point - it is for the song "Butterflies and Hurricanes", which is referring to the chaos theory. This image also refers to it. If you're not familiar, the idea is that a small thing can elevate into something huge, like the flapping of a butterfly's wing making a small change in the atmosphere and that change elevating and causing, or preventing, a hurricane on the other side of the world. Here, many butterflies (small), form together to make a huge one.

It's a simple idea, it's true, but I somehow doubt a 7-year-old would be able to come up with the idea AND carry it out. It is, after all, perfect for the song, and that is surely what covers are about?


Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: March 13 2008 at 13:17
Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

^That sounds like you were fishing for a specific answer and so deliberatly lied to the guy to get it.

I simply pulled the picture out of my pocket and simply said " Dave, what do you make of this?" I wasn`t fishing for any specific answer. If he would have said "that`s genius", I would have have come back here and said that. But I am going to just remain a spectator here.


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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: March 13 2008 at 16:12
Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

^That sounds like you were fishing for a specific answer and so deliberatly lied to the guy to get it.

I simply pulled the picture out of my pocket and simply said " Dave, what do you make of this?" I wasn`t fishing for any specific answer. If he would have said "that`s genius", I would have have come back here and said that. But I am going to just remain a spectator here.

Yes, and you also said " I said, " C`mon ****head  it was done by a 7 year old girl on her computer in her art class". His following answer that you posted was basd entirely on this information, which we know is a lie because its a Storm Thorgerson (sp?) cover. His impression of the artist is wrong because you gave him fals information. Besides, I don't know any under 12 that could manipulate a photoshop type programe so well.


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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: March 13 2008 at 20:13

I've been mulling this over for the past day or so and have to agree (in part) with Ian. There is something "wrong" with the butterfly image. But it's not Storm Thorgerson - it is actually a good piece and as someone who has used Photoshop for the past 8 or 9 years I can say that it has been executed with a lot more subtlety of scale and perspective than most people could manage, regardless of age. (the only defense I can offer is if you don't believe me have a go yourself - it isn't that easy to achieve that effect)

The problem is Photoshop. Photoshop is responsible for two damaging effects: 1) It has made artists lazy and 2) it has made the viewer complacent.

if you compare it with an earlier Thorgerson work using the same techniques:

Tree%20Of%20Half%20Life
 
You can see that from there, he didn't have to stretch himself too far to come up with the Muse image and I don't think the butterfly shape is a particularly good or realistic one (but then neither is the tree Wink). Photoshop just makes it too easy for both the artist and the viewer. No longer do we sit an puzzle-out how he did it, or be amazed at the scale of the task involved, we just look at it and go "Oh, Photoshop" and move on.
 
Yet I don't believe Thorgerson has got worse, or his work is suffering in quality. The Mars Volta Francis cover is highly referential and derivative, but it was meant to be (it's a direct reference to Magritte and an oblique reference to Pink Floyd) - it's still a striking image, as is his cover for De-Loused (though quite a few people don't like that one as much). Even using photoshop he can still "do it":
Rapt%20EP
or just with actors and a camera:
(whether the above album is Prog or not is immaterial, Storm & Hipgnosis did covers for dozens of bands from the 60s to the present day who weren't Prog, but they are still regarded as "Prog" cover artists - if that had been used for a Zeppelin cover in the late 70s no one would complain)
 
Now compare:
Momentary%20Lapse%20Of%20Reason
 
with
Muse,Absolution,UK,Deleted,DOUBLE%20LP,257766
 
The first makes you go, "Wow, hundreds of hospital beds on a Dorset beach, that must have taken hours", while the second makes you shrug and go "Oh, Photoshop" ... and that's where the modern viewer has become complacent, it isn't Photoshop - it's a real un-doctored photograph - Thorgerson made dozens of plywood man-shapes and mounted them on poles so he could photograph their shadows. Yet it could have easily been Photoshop'd and conversely, it could just as easily have been a Floyd image from A Momentary Lapse and (again) no one would mind.


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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: March 14 2008 at 04:46
Not to mention in my opinion, one of his most stunning (photographic) images:



Things were so much more worthy when there was a large format camera involved, rather than a PC...

Away from Storm though -

Similarities / Homages, anyone?




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Posted By: sigod
Date Posted: March 14 2008 at 06:57
Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

I'll post some of my favourites.









This is a magnificent cover Sleeper.Clap


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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: March 14 2008 at 08:23
you obviously have no kids, else you would know with what surreal ideas they can come up with. Roger Dean is a blunderer compared to them.
or are you speaking of the actual execution of the picture, not the idea? of course a 7 year old kid can not be expected to the the drawing skills of Roger Dean. but I don't consider that picture to be badly executed at all. it reminds me of some of the impressionists (in execution, not in idea). the picture looks a bit as if a surreal painter decided to execute one of his ideas in an impressionistic style


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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: March 14 2008 at 10:45
Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

^That sounds like you were fishing for a specific answer and so deliberatly lied to the guy to get it.

I simply pulled the picture out of my pocket and simply said " Dave, what do you make of this?" I wasn`t fishing for any specific answer. If he would have said "that`s genius", I would have have come back here and said that. But I am going to just remain a spectator here.

Yes, and you also said " I said, " C`mon ****head  it was done by a 7 year old girl on her computer in her art class". His following answer that you posted was basd entirely on this information, which we know is a lie because its a Storm Thorgerson (sp?) cover. His impression of the artist is wrong because you gave him fals information. Besides, I don't know any under 12 that could manipulate a photoshop type programe so well.
Let me clear something up. Initially I took the image out of my pocket and handed it to him and said to him Dave what do you make of this ? And he replied looks like a painting some homosexual did ( although he used a different word ) I only said to him that it was done by a 7 year old girl to see if he would believe it, and he did. I didn`t bother explaining to him who Storm Thorgenson is, or the real reason why I was showing him the image. This guy is an airline pilot who knows zilch about music or art. The whole exercise was to see what a layman ( as far as art goes ) would say or think about the butterfly cover. So now you might say, then his opinion is not valid. But do artists perform or practise their art for other artists? John McLaughlin has said many times that his music is intended for non-musicians. .
Now this weekend I`m going to get it analysed by a woman who teaches art at the university level, a friend of my wife. And I`ll tell her exactly what it is and get her take. Fair enough?


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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: March 14 2008 at 11:36
Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

^That sounds like you were fishing for a specific answer and so deliberatly lied to the guy to get it.

I simply pulled the picture out of my pocket and simply said " Dave, what do you make of this?" I wasn`t fishing for any specific answer. If he would have said "that`s genius", I would have have come back here and said that. But I am going to just remain a spectator here.

Yes, and you also said " I said, " C`mon ****head  it was done by a 7 year old girl on her computer in her art class". His following answer that you posted was basd entirely on this information, which we know is a lie because its a Storm Thorgerson (sp?) cover. His impression of the artist is wrong because you gave him fals information. Besides, I don't know any under 12 that could manipulate a photoshop type programe so well.
Let me clear something up. Initially I took the image out of my pocket and handed it to him and said to him Dave what do you make of this ? And he replied looks like a painting some homosexual did ( although he used a different word ) I only said to him that it was done by a 7 year old girl to see if he would believe it, and he did. I didn`t bother explaining to him who Storm Thorgenson is, or the real reason why I was showing him the image. This guy is an airline pilot who knows zilch about music or art. The whole exercise was to see what a layman ( as far as art goes ) would say or think about the butterfly cover. So now you might say, then his opinion is not valid. But do artists perform or practise their art for other artists? John McLaughlin has said many times that his music is intended for non-musicians. .
Now this weekend I`m going to get it analysed by a woman who teaches art at the university level, a friend of my wife. And I`ll tell her exactly what it is and get her take. Fair enough?

Fair enough. This does clear some things up, as your earlier post sounded a bit like you were fishing for a specific answer. I think Deans previous post explains the problems of photoshop well so I can see how this kind of image trickery that many bands use can be disregarded quite easily. Its not a favourite style of  mine either.


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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: March 14 2008 at 11:58
Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

Well if I remember correctly it was Rick Wakeman who put the final touch on the Tormato cover if you remember as correctly as I do. Rick no liked nice picture so Rick throw Tomato at nice picture.


Rick didn't like it? I thought it was just part of the gag.


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Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: March 14 2008 at 12:19
Oh my! Nothing for my tastes here. The Opeth's cover is quite nice,  but the rest  ranges from truly awful (like Tool, Kamelot...) to boring, clean or just safe.  Even the newer bands I like, most often has pretty lousy coverart:

Here's two bands that are quite good with the visuals, I think:


Acid Mothers Temple


Faun Fables











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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: March 14 2008 at 12:41
Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

I have just have one more thing to add and then I`m bailing out of this disscussion on "porg" album art. As I mentioned on page one of the thread on my lunch hour yesterday I showed that Butterfly graphic by Storm T to a friend and she remarked that it was cute and looked like something her 7 year old daughter would create in art class at school.
 
Can't help feeling this one would suit you more, Vibe...Wink
 


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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: March 14 2008 at 12:43
Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

^That sounds like you were fishing for a specific answer and so deliberatly lied to the guy to get it.

I simply pulled the picture out of my pocket and simply said " Dave, what do you make of this?" I wasn`t fishing for any specific answer. If he would have said "that`s genius", I would have have come back here and said that. But I am going to just remain a spectator here.

Yes, and you also said " I said, " C`mon ****head  it was done by a 7 year old girl on her computer in her art class". His following answer that you posted was basd entirely on this information, which we know is a lie because its a Storm Thorgerson (sp?) cover. His impression of the artist is wrong because you gave him fals information. Besides, I don't know any under 12 that could manipulate a photoshop type programe so well.
Let me clear something up. Initially I took the image out of my pocket and handed it to him and said to him Dave what do you make of this ? And he replied looks like a painting some homosexual did ( although he used a different word ) I only said to him that it was done by a 7 year old girl to see if he would believe it, and he did. I didn`t bother explaining to him who Storm Thorgenson is, or the real reason why I was showing him the image. This guy is an airline pilot who knows zilch about music or art. The whole exercise was to see what a layman ( as far as art goes ) would say or think about the butterfly cover. So now you might say, then his opinion is not valid. But do artists perform or practise their art for other artists? John McLaughlin has said many times that his music is intended for non-musicians. .
Now this weekend I`m going to get it analysed by a woman who teaches art at the university level, a friend of my wife. And I`ll tell her exactly what it is and get her take. Fair enough?

you don't seem to be aware that 7 year old kids are geniuses, and I fully mean it. their powers of comprehension are far beyond the powers of comprehension of a grown-up person (ever tried to beat a kid at playing Memory? no chance). and as to imagination: no fantastic writer comes up with stories that are as fantastic as theirs.
you also don't seem to be familiar with impressionism, else you would notice the resemblance of the rest of the painting to impressionists painting. were the impressionists all 7 year old kids in your opinion?


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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: March 14 2008 at 12:47
^ to be honest, I also don't know any 7 year old kids who would make such a type of drawing. They would either paint birds or butterflies, but not get the idea of combining them in this way.

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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: March 14 2008 at 12:49
Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

you don't seem to be aware that 7 year old kids are geniuses, and I fully mean it. their powers of comprehension are far beyond the powers of comprehension of a grown-up person (ever tried to beat a kid at playing Memory? no chance).
 
absolutely...when I was about 7, my parents repeatedly tried to leave me in shopping centres, parks and playgrounds, but through memory, I always managed to find my way home....Ouch
 
 
incidentally, I always liked this album cover (and album, actually...Embarrassed)
 


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Posted By: keiser willhelm
Date Posted: March 14 2008 at 13:25
some fav's of mine...






I also really enjoy tool album art.

To BaldJean, i do not quite see the connection you drew between impressionists and the muse cover. the sureal, yes. impressionist? could you explain



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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: March 14 2008 at 14:02
Originally posted by fandango fandango wrote:

Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

I have just have one more thing to add and then I`m bailing out of this disscussion on "porg" album art. As I mentioned on page one of the thread on my lunch hour yesterday I showed that Butterfly graphic by Storm T to a friend and she remarked that it was cute and looked like something her 7 year old daughter would create in art class at school.
 
Can't help feeling this one would suit you more, Vibe...Wink
 
Now that`s what I call a butterfly ! LOL Wonder what my buddy would think of that one. Not my favourite Barclay James Harvest album thoughWink

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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: March 14 2008 at 14:08
Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

^That sounds like you were fishing for a specific answer and so deliberatly lied to the guy to get it.

I simply pulled the picture out of my pocket and simply said " Dave, what do you make of this?" I wasn`t fishing for any specific answer. If he would have said "that`s genius", I would have have come back here and said that. But I am going to just remain a spectator here.

Yes, and you also said " I said, " C`mon ****head  it was done by a 7 year old girl on her computer in her art class". His following answer that you posted was basd entirely on this information, which we know is a lie because its a Storm Thorgerson (sp?) cover. His impression of the artist is wrong because you gave him fals information. Besides, I don't know any under 12 that could manipulate a photoshop type programe so well.
Let me clear something up. Initially I took the image out of my pocket and handed it to him and said to him Dave what do you make of this ? And he replied looks like a painting some homosexual did ( although he used a different word ) I only said to him that it was done by a 7 year old girl to see if he would believe it, and he did. I didn`t bother explaining to him who Storm Thorgenson is, or the real reason why I was showing him the image. This guy is an airline pilot who knows zilch about music or art. The whole exercise was to see what a layman ( as far as art goes ) would say or think about the butterfly cover. So now you might say, then his opinion is not valid. But do artists perform or practise their art for other artists? John McLaughlin has said many times that his music is intended for non-musicians. .
Now this weekend I`m going to get it analysed by a woman who teaches art at the university level, a friend of my wife. And I`ll tell her exactly what it is and get her take. Fair enough?

you don't seem to be aware that 7 year old kids are geniuses, and I fully mean it. their powers of comprehension are far beyond the powers of comprehension of a grown-up person (ever tried to beat a kid at playing Memory? no chance). and as to imagination: no fantastic writer comes up with stories that are as fantastic as theirs.
you also don't seem to be familiar with impressionism, else you would notice the resemblance of the rest of the painting to impressionists painting. were the impressionists all 7 year old kids in your opinion?
Don`t get me wrong not for one second do I underestimate kids I`ve got 5 nieces and nephews. But comparing it to any of the impressionists is, I am sorry reading a wee bit too much into it. Anyway we`ll see on Monday after I have it analysed by a university art professor.

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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: March 14 2008 at 14:11
Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

Originally posted by fandango fandango wrote:

Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

I have just have one more thing to add and then I`m bailing out of this disscussion on "porg" album art. As I mentioned on page one of the thread on my lunch hour yesterday I showed that Butterfly graphic by Storm T to a friend and she remarked that it was cute and looked like something her 7 year old daughter would create in art class at school.
 
Can't help feeling this one would suit you more, Vibe...Wink
 
Now that`s what I call a butterfly ! LOL Wonder what my buddy would think of that one. Not my favourite Barclay James Harvest album thoughWink

I believe the other butterfly to be much more original, to be honest. This one looks like one of the pictures I used to collect as a kid. Kitsch.


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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: March 14 2008 at 14:19
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

Originally posted by fandango fandango wrote:

Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

I have just have one more thing to add and then I`m bailing out of this disscussion on "porg" album art. As I mentioned on page one of the thread on my lunch hour yesterday I showed that Butterfly graphic by Storm T to a friend and she remarked that it was cute and looked like something her 7 year old daughter would create in art class at school.
 
Can't help feeling this one would suit you more, Vibe...Wink
 
Now that`s what I call a butterfly ! LOL Wonder what my buddy would think of that one. Not my favourite Barclay James Harvest album thoughWink

I believe the other butterfly to be much more original, to be honest. This one looks like one of the pictures I used to collect as a kid. Kitsch.
But it`s realistic because didn`t you know butterflies have actually been spotted by the Gemini and Apollo astronauts as well as space shuttle crews fluttering around in space.

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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: March 14 2008 at 14:30
Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

^That sounds like you were fishing for a specific answer and so deliberatly lied to the guy to get it.

I simply pulled the picture out of my pocket and simply said " Dave, what do you make of this?" I wasn`t fishing for any specific answer. If he would have said "that`s genius", I would have have come back here and said that. But I am going to just remain a spectator here.

Yes, and you also said " I said, " C`mon ****head  it was done by a 7 year old girl on her computer in her art class". His following answer that you posted was basd entirely on this information, which we know is a lie because its a Storm Thorgerson (sp?) cover. His impression of the artist is wrong because you gave him fals information. Besides, I don't know any under 12 that could manipulate a photoshop type programe so well.
Let me clear something up. Initially I took the image out of my pocket and handed it to him and said to him Dave what do you make of this ? And he replied looks like a painting some homosexual did ( although he used a different word ) I only said to him that it was done by a 7 year old girl to see if he would believe it, and he did. I didn`t bother explaining to him who Storm Thorgenson is, or the real reason why I was showing him the image. This guy is an airline pilot who knows zilch about music or art. The whole exercise was to see what a layman ( as far as art goes ) would say or think about the butterfly cover. So now you might say, then his opinion is not valid. But do artists perform or practise their art for other artists? John McLaughlin has said many times that his music is intended for non-musicians. .
Now this weekend I`m going to get it analysed by a woman who teaches art at the university level, a friend of my wife. And I`ll tell her exactly what it is and get her take. Fair enough?

you don't seem to be aware that 7 year old kids are geniuses, and I fully mean it. their powers of comprehension are far beyond the powers of comprehension of a grown-up person (ever tried to beat a kid at playing Memory? no chance). and as to imagination: no fantastic writer comes up with stories that are as fantastic as theirs.
you also don't seem to be familiar with impressionism, else you would notice the resemblance of the rest of the painting to impressionists painting. were the impressionists all 7 year old kids in your opinion?
Don`t get me wrong not for one second do I underestimate kids I`ve got 5 nieces and nephews. But comparing it to any of the impressionists is, I am sorry reading a wee bit too much into it. Anyway we`ll see on Monday after I have it analysed by a university art professor.

what I refer to is the simplification of the people in the landscape. that was typical of the impressionists as well. human figures were not much more than a few blots in their landscape pictures.
art is often the art of simplification. Picasso could draw Don Quixote and Sancho Pansa with only a few lines:



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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: March 14 2008 at 14:54
wow I just noticed the band member's faces in the butterfly's wings LOL

anyway, concerning "modern prog" or just album art in general, I like the work of Travis Smith who did the Blackwater Park and Terria covers



and Aaron Turner, in addition to being an awesome songwriter, makes some cool album art too, particularly his own band's and Pelican's









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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: March 14 2008 at 14:57
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

I believe the other butterfly to be much more original, to be honest. This one looks like one of the pictures I used to collect as a kid. Kitsch.
 
yes, but it was 1978....LOL


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Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: March 14 2008 at 16:41
http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B000BCHJRE.03.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

http://www.artistsandbands.eu/immagini/Osada%20Vida_front.jpg


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Posted By: Abstrakt
Date Posted: March 14 2008 at 16:53
I second the Tool, Anathema, Kamelot & Pelican. A few unmentioned ones:
 
 


Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: March 15 2008 at 11:03
^Those covers really are disasterously horrible. 

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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: March 15 2008 at 11:30
Originally posted by Rocktopus Rocktopus wrote:

^Those covers really are disasterously horrible. 


I'm afraid you are very right hereCry...


Posted By: asimplemistake
Date Posted: March 15 2008 at 19:27

My personal favorite album art:
Bass Communion II - Bass Communion



And one by Lasse Hoile:
In Absentia -  Porcupine Tree






Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: March 16 2008 at 10:40


Whilst this image leaves me cold, I wonder as to who would possibly imagine it was created by a 7 yr old. A pompous twit maybe?
As for the person who described it as something created by a homosexual (presumably actually used some childish epithet), why would anyone value their opinion? Ian, your friend has the mind of a 7 yr old, try surrounding yourself with adults.





Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: March 16 2008 at 16:13


I think this is one of my favorite album covers ever.


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Posted By: darkmatter
Date Posted: March 16 2008 at 16:31
I really like these relatively recent album covers:










Posted By: Kim?
Date Posted: March 16 2008 at 17:15
Here are some of my favourites:
 


Posted By: popeyethecat
Date Posted: March 16 2008 at 17:55
Originally posted by Kim? Kim? wrote:

 




Oh, that is CUTE. I like that one, too


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Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: March 16 2008 at 19:46
Here's to hoping some of you have gone over the 18 ridiculous prog art covers. I'm with VB. Some of us strain to convince the rest that this is actually high art. Would we debate the artistic merit of book covers ? How about graphic novels / comic books ? Van & automobile hood dressings (valkeries in bikinis anyone) ? Our national public broadcaster, the CBC, has gotten mucho good press over the years for their original exploding logo. But it is seen as graphic art, in the sense of something that is "drawn". And not as high art that belongs in a gallery next to Van Gogh or J Pollock (Pollack Palloc Pullock, whatever...)

Oh, by the way, for those who feel these topics are intellectually or artistically worth bursting a blood vessel debating its' impotence, I mean importance; check out  http://www.avclub.com/content/feature/the_scandal_of_olivia_newton. Read number 5 about the world shaking debate as to what is & is not, or should not be included in one of Wikipedia's hallowed pages. Then substitute Prog along with our favourite phrases we use in supporting the weightiness of our preferred music.

P.S. tee hee hee hee hee ad infinitum ....

P.P.S. mind you a lot of covers make for interesting viewing under certain "altered" states of mind ... ahah, aha, aha ...... nudge nudge wink wink munch munch ....

P.P.P.S - btw, my 3 fave covers are a  4 way tie between AC/DC's Back in Black, Spinal Tap, and Metallica's Black Album. Oh, the fourth one is Venom's Black Metal. But I don't own that one, so I can't remember for sure that it actually is as good.


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Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: March 16 2008 at 20:07
 
 
 
And of course, one of the best...


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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: March 16 2008 at 20:51
Originally posted by debrewguy debrewguy wrote:

Here's to hoping some of you have gone over the 18 ridiculous prog art covers. I'm with VB. Some of us strain to convince the rest that this is actually high art. Would we debate the artistic merit of book covers ? How about graphic novels / comic books ? Van & automobile hood dressings (valkeries in bikinis anyone) ? Our national public broadcaster, the CBC, has gotten mucho good press over the years for their original exploding logo. But it is seen as graphic art, in the sense of something that is "drawn". And not as high art that belongs in a gallery next to Van Gogh or J Pollock (Pollack Palloc Pullock, whatever...)

Oh, by the way, for those who feel these topics are intellectually or artistically worth bursting a blood vessel debating its' impotence, I mean importance; check out  http://www.avclub.com/content/feature/the_scandal_of_olivia_newton. Read number 5 about the world shaking debate as to what is & is not, or should not be included in one of Wikipedia's hallowed pages. Then substitute Prog along with our favourite phrases we use in supporting the weightiness of our preferred music.

P.S. tee hee hee hee hee ad infinitum ....

P.P.S. mind you a lot of covers make for interesting viewing under certain "altered" states of mind ... ahah, aha, aha ...... nudge nudge wink wink munch munch ....

P.P.P.S - btw, my 3 fave covers are a  4 way tie between AC/DC's Back in Black, Spinal Tap, and Metallica's Black Album. Oh, the fourth one is Venom's Black Metal. But I don't own that one, so I can't remember for sure that it actually is as good.
Covers are just packaging, like a Snickers wrapper or the label on a Coke bottle - but that does not mean they are not art, (even Graphic Artists go to Art School and it is not just "drawing"). No one is intellectualising here, or heading for an aneurysm, or claiming high-art (though Andy Warhol made packaging into art and even Rembrandt's art has been turned into packaging), it's just appreciation for what has been done in the name of selling music. Whether it belongs in a gallery next to Jackson Pollock is a little irrelevant, (especially since millions of people would never consider Pollock as high-art), however some album covers have been elevated to that status already (HR Giger, Andy Warhol and Peter Blake). VB's contention was that these new covers are not as good as the old ones and had nothing to do with whether they were high-art or not.
 
and re: your P.P.P.S - the Beatles got there first, everything else is a pastiche.Wink


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Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: March 16 2008 at 22:43
Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:




I think this is one of my favorite album covers ever.


Ulver's latest'a a great one!

Miasma & The Carousel Of Headless Horses two covers aren't the worst ones either.





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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: March 16 2008 at 22:46
Originally posted by Rocktopus Rocktopus wrote:

Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:




I think this is one of my favorite album covers ever.


Ulver's latest'a a great one!


We agree on music for once!


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Posted By: keiser willhelm
Date Posted: March 17 2008 at 01:16
That Miasma & The Carousel Of Headless Horses  cover is really really cool. i dig. 

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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: March 17 2008 at 05:30
that Kayo Dot cover of the run-over bird or whatever it is supposed to be is one of the worst I have ever seen. even those admittedly a bit outdated "Sword and Sorcery" covers of the 70s are better than that one. but "de gustibus non est disputandum".
on the whole I think the current fashion of making album covers is just as good or bad as it was in the 70s. today artists follow another fad: be laconic or abstract. in the 70s it was: be fantastic. it is just another passing fad. and one thing is for sure: in 30-40 years people will laugh at the album covers of today as today we laugh at the album covers of the 70s.
an album cover of today which I like:




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Posted By: JayDee
Date Posted: March 17 2008 at 06:05
These are some of my favorites:







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Posted By: sigod
Date Posted: March 17 2008 at 11:36
Originally posted by keiser willhelm keiser willhelm wrote:

some fav's of mine...






I like this cover very much keiser.


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Posted By: sigod
Date Posted: March 17 2008 at 11:40
Originally posted by Majestic_Mayhem Majestic_Mayhem wrote:

These are some of my favorites:




Thanks Majestic
Battles are an interesting band to behold on stage I'm told. Although their music doesn't hasn't set my world alight yet, I think their cover art and videos are stunning. It's almost like installation art.


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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: March 17 2008 at 17:03
I think the Kayo Dot album cover is actually hand drawn by Toby, so no worries of it being a picture of an actual run-over birdLOL

I seem to like albums with sprawling nature-scapes on them


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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: March 17 2008 at 19:58
Originally posted by heyitsthatguy heyitsthatguy wrote:

I think the Kayo Dot album cover is actually hand drawn by Toby, so no worries of it being a picture of an actual run-over birdLOL

I was not worried that it might have been a real overrun bird. it is just what the picture looks like for me, which is why I can't see anything great about it


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Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: March 17 2008 at 20:13








to name a few


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Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: March 18 2008 at 07:50
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Ulver's latest'a a great one!
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We agree on music for once!
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Almost. I meant the just the cover. I haven't actually heard the album. But who knows. I might like that, too. Got nothing against Ulver.


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In the sunlight, see - it flashes
Find a fly and eat his eye
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Don't believe in me


Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: March 18 2008 at 09:15
Darq Dean, good response. I do find a lot of covers are good, even great graphic art. It's just that going back & forth between this thread and the 18 ridiculous prog covers posts kinda motivated me to put my two cents in there about the artistic validity of most of what's out there (past & present).
I would upload some of my faves, but I'm technically adept only at things I get to or need to do on a regular basis.
I do think, IMHO, that RPI has a lot of interesting ones. But prog, like all genres, does have certain set of stereotypical imagery. But then, even the masters (Van Gogh, Rembrandt et al) shared a commonality of styles, as seen by the many schools or styles that developed over the centuries. So while the only cubist painter that most of us Hoi Polloiers know might be Picasso, that doesn't mean that we might not find something to admire in other painters who participated in that "movement", without necessarily worrying about it being derivative. And O.K., I'm surprised that at an intellectually superior site like PA, no one has quoted Monty Python's famous line about art - " I may not know about Art, but I know what I like".



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Posted By: Erpland316
Date Posted: March 18 2008 at 14:04
Am I the only one who thinks the last two Porcupine Tree album covers are horrible and seem a little childish?  Good music:bad covers!

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Posted By: Erpland316
Date Posted: March 18 2008 at 14:05
Tool's albums all have great artwork, as does TMV and Radiohead!

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Posted By: asimplemistake
Date Posted: March 18 2008 at 17:23
Originally posted by Erpland316 Erpland316 wrote:

Am I the only one who thinks the last two Porcupine Tree album covers are [...] a little childish?



Well, I love the work of Lasse Hoile and the music of PT, so I am obviously biased, but I really enjoy the colors and texture of the Deadwing cover, and FoaBP just took time to get used to.


Posted By: Prince_Rupert
Date Posted: March 18 2008 at 18:33
Originally posted by Rocktopus Rocktopus wrote:

Oh my! Nothing for my tastes here. The Opeth's cover is quite nice,  but the rest  ranges from truly awful (like Tool, Kamelot...) to boring, clean or just safe.  Even the newer bands I like, most often has pretty lousy coverart:

Here's two bands that are quite good with the visuals, I think:


Acid Mothers Temple


Faun Fables









 
 
Groooooovy.  I like that Faun Fables cover!


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Posted By: Prince_Rupert
Date Posted: March 18 2008 at 18:36
Originally posted by schizoid_man77 schizoid_man77 wrote:

 
 
 
And of course, one of the best...
 
 
Dig that Dirge album
 
What's that top album? don't think I've seen it


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Posted By: Prince_Rupert
Date Posted: March 18 2008 at 18:45
No one said this yet!!!!  I think that this is quite spectacular, especially the vinyl cover
 
This Time of Orchids cover is pretty good too, I think.
 
 
Planet Rubble by Lebanon
Great album.  Great cover.
 
 
I think this one's great too.
 
 
This Godspeed cover is great too!!! definitely!
 
 
I like all the adrian belew covers.  I think that he paints them, too


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Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: March 18 2008 at 18:48
Originally posted by Prince_Rupert Prince_Rupert wrote:

Originally posted by schizoid_man77 schizoid_man77 wrote:

 
 
 
 
Dig that Dirge album
 
What's that top album? don't think I've seen it
 
Jakobs solace, the music is as good as the cover, trust me!


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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: March 18 2008 at 21:17
7 year-olds?  Are we talking about Tortoise's TNT  album art?



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Posted By: Anonymous
Date Posted: March 18 2008 at 21:37
Prince_Rupert, you're right about Belew painting his cover artwork.
And Yanqui U.X.O. does have an amazing cover (all GY!BE does though, now that I think of it)
And I've never heard Marillion before (heard of them though), but that artwork is amazing...


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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: March 19 2008 at 08:54
Originally posted by Prince_Rupert Prince_Rupert wrote:

I like all the adrian belew covers.  I think that he paints them, too




Great painting!





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Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: March 19 2008 at 12:09
Reading my fave net news site CBC.ca, I came across this article re : the graphic arts, specifically Digital art. Interesting approach when one considers that the most modern of arts goes back to the basics of the old masters. http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/tech/hightech/digital-art.html

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Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: March 20 2008 at 04:30
Originally posted by Prince_Rupert Prince_Rupert wrote:


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No one said this yet!!!!  I think that this is quite spectacular, especially the vinyl cover



You must be joking??


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Posted By: Prince_Rupert
Date Posted: March 21 2008 at 14:17
Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

Originally posted by Prince_Rupert Prince_Rupert wrote:

I like all the adrian belew covers.  I think that he paints them, too




Great painting!



 
I think that he painted those that are paintings.  As in side 1, 2, 3


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Posted By: Prince_Rupert
Date Posted: March 21 2008 at 14:20
No, I wasn't joking at all about the Mono cover.
 
I think it's one of the most striking covers I've ever seen.


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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: March 22 2008 at 00:56
Originally posted by schizoid_man77 schizoid_man77 wrote:


  


Love it. Smile


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Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: March 22 2008 at 20:15
YES! I've been quoted twice!

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Posted By: sigod
Date Posted: March 25 2008 at 07:55
Originally posted by schizoid_man77 schizoid_man77 wrote:

YES! I've been quoted twice!


Three times LOL


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Posted By: mrcozdude
Date Posted: April 27 2008 at 10:28
i really like this one,its my top 10



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Date Posted: April 28 2008 at 19:42
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