syd barret or david gilmour
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Topic: syd barret or david gilmour
Posted By: alchemist
Subject: syd barret or david gilmour
Date Posted: March 31 2005 at 12:30
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i'll go with gilmour
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Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: March 31 2005 at 12:34
Gilmour . Piper at the gates of dawn was a good album but (IMHO) Syd Barret wasn't that "special".
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: March 31 2005 at 12:49
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Barrett. He was a lot more creative as a guitarist, plus he was a more intrinsically involved musician than Gilmour. He was also a brilliant songwriter whereas Gilmour couldn't write song lyrics to save his life... (and don't quote 'Sorrow' to me, he wrote that as a poem first, before setting it to that crappy melody he refers to as a song) In a competition between skill and talent, talent always wins. |
Posted By: bluetailfly
Date Posted: March 31 2005 at 13:06
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No need for comparison here; it's "apples and oranges" <---early Floyd pun intended. But really, they played two entirely different roles in the band. I think a more relevant poll would be "Barrett or Waters." |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: March 31 2005 at 13:07
*agrees completely* |
bluetailfly wrote:Posted By: Ben2112
Date Posted: March 31 2005 at 13:08
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Arrrrrgh! Can't I like both?!?! |
Posted By: frenchie
Date Posted: March 31 2005 at 13:09
 They are both legends but syd dont stand a chance. he was only on 1 and 1/7th of a studio album. Gilmour was on about 13 or something. ------------- The Worthless Recluse 
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: March 31 2005 at 13:36
Even though we got to hear alot more about gilmour, I still think you can compare them. Syd did great stuff while he was there, and even though it doesn't hold a torch to Gilmour, in terms of greatness in the progessive vein, it is still comparable. And i'm sure many. if not all, of you wondered what would Pink Floyd be like if Syd never left. Just bringing that up for no reason whatsoever.  ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: walrus
Date Posted: March 31 2005 at 14:02
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obviusly gilmour, hes a real guitar player, barret was a good songwriter, but not essential. sorry, i prefer dark side of the moon that piper...... ------------- you and whose army? |
Posted By: gdub411
Date Posted: March 31 2005 at 14:09
I couldn't disagree more with you guys. Gilmour replaced Barrett so it is a more legitimate question to ask Barrett or Gilmour. Also they both were the guitarists. |
Posted By: frenchie
Date Posted: March 31 2005 at 14:23
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If Syd hadnt gone coocoo or if he could have done what gilmour did, or something of equal extraordinaryness, then he would he would be untouchable. Though things didn't work out that way. ------------- The Worthless Recluse
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Posted By: Cygnus X-2
Date Posted: March 31 2005 at 14:27
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Gilmour and Barrett each brought different elements to the group. If Syd didn't fly off the cuckoo's nest, then we'd be talking about Pink Floyd the Psychedelic group. I do prefer Gilmour, though. He brings a sort of classiness to the music, adding tasteful guitar to sweeten tracks like "Shine On" and "Echoes". And if Syd had remained, then we would have not gotten such great Waters tracks. ------------- 
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Posted By: bluetailfly
Date Posted: March 31 2005 at 14:32
Barrett's primary role was as songwriter for the band, and thus he set the theme and image of the band. The fact that he played guitar is secondary to his singing and songwriting role. He never attempted to be an accomplished all-around guitarist in the vein of Gilmour or Hendrix. Waters assumed the role Barrett left, not Gilmour. Or perhaps Waters and Gilmour took his role together, but the majority of the burden fell to Waters. |
Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: March 31 2005 at 14:33
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Drat. Someone's already done the "Apples and Oranges" joke. I can't choose between what was and what might have been. |
Posted By: Hangedman
Date Posted: March 31 2005 at 16:28
gilmor, syd is a fun guy but had he stuck around floyd would have went in the piper direction ( )and would have never made any of the masterpeices. gilmor by a mile.
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Posted By: Forgotten Son
Date Posted: March 31 2005 at 16:34
Gilmour, he's the greatest  . Though Sid did write some excellent songs. |
Posted By: bluetailfly
Date Posted: March 31 2005 at 16:36
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If you're going to insist on this Barrett / Gilmour comparison (which I believe is misguided as you already know), but if you insist on it, the question should be: What would you rather listen to: "Piper at the Gates of Dawn" OR any of Gilmour's solo albums. Me, I would rather listen to "Piper." |
Posted By: Hangedman
Date Posted: March 31 2005 at 16:51
In this vein how about barrets solo vs. gilmours? (gilmour for me on both counts i think.) |
Posted By: bluetailfly
Date Posted: March 31 2005 at 16:59
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Well, Barrett started to seriouly lose his mind before his solo albums, so I don't think they represent Barrett at his best. But "Piper" does as do the singles he wrote at that time (e.g., "See Emily Play). "Piper" is essential; Gilmour solo albums, well, worth a spin or two (or three); I'd rather hear him in conjunction with the tunes Water composed. Gilmour can flesh out a tune like no guitarist I've ever heard. |
Posted By: kingofbizzare
Date Posted: March 31 2005 at 23:52
| Barrett often gets overlooked because of his lack of material compared to Gilmour, but look at songs like Astronomy Domine or Jugband Blues. If it weren't for Barrett, there never would have been a Pink Floyd for Gilmour to enter. Plus, how many good Gilmour paintings have you seen? |
Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: March 31 2005 at 23:55
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silly silly comparison ------------- ...As I venture through the slipstream, between the viaducts in your dreams...[/COLOR] |
Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: April 01 2005 at 00:41
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.. well I'll always go with Gilmour. He's my hero. I appreciate the experimental Floyd more than I do the psychadelic Floyd... ------------- THIS IS ELP 
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Posted By: Cluster One
Date Posted: April 01 2005 at 05:42
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Should never compare the two methinks... And according to Gilmour (I read somewhere) Syd did participate somewhat more than just 'Jugband Blues' on the album "A Saucerful of Secrets". "Let There be More Light" and I believe another song or two has some Syd contribution(s) on it... ------------- Marmalade...I like marmalade. |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: April 01 2005 at 06:39
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Without a single hesitation Gilmour. Barret would've faded doon or later but sooner was it. In the long run , even without his ill-fated destiny, he would not last. Too hip and fad-prone. ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: bluetailfly
Date Posted: April 01 2005 at 12:58
David Bowie is rather hip and fad-prone, but he's still around. ------------- "The red polygon's only desire / is to get to the blue triangle." |
Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: April 01 2005 at 13:02
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But Bowie changed himself with every fashion... he had a much more aggressive personality than Syd ever did. ------------- THIS IS ELP
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Posted By: bluetailfly
Date Posted: April 01 2005 at 13:06
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I agree, that's the reason he survived. Syd didn't flame-out because he was fad-prone but because of different reasons all together. I think it was really just genetic; he was schizophrenic, and of course the drugs didn't help that condition. ------------- "The red polygon's only desire / is to get to the blue triangle." |