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Topic: Indexi
Posted By: Seyo
Subject: Indexi
Date Posted: April 16 2008 at 08:04
Topic open to discussion about pioneers of prog in ex Yugoslavia...



Replies:
Posted By: Norbert
Date Posted: April 16 2008 at 13:32
I'm quite impresed by the PA sample of Modra Rijeka, Indexi is a band to check out.


Posted By: Seyo
Date Posted: April 16 2008 at 16:53
Modra rijeka must be one of the best non-English language prog albums out there...Thumbs%20Up


Posted By: Norbert
Date Posted: April 17 2008 at 13:33
  This band deserves more attention!
  Where are you Andrea?Wink
   (A. Cortese of course)
 


Posted By: Seyo
Date Posted: April 18 2008 at 08:44
^^ I guess he's still busy with Leb i sol?! LOL


Posted By: Andrea Cortese
Date Posted: April 18 2008 at 09:04
I'm here, obviously. Been out of the site recently.
 
 
I cannot but repeat the same words I wrote for this wonderful band and album:
 
 
 
 
 
5%20stars This is one of the most exciting discoveries of the last years. Being 1978, this album is far from being experimental but... well, it's fantastic, pure, rough (rough as a rough diamond), aggressive, sad, poetic, dramatic, anguishing, melodic, sensual, hard, intelligent, intense, deep, obscure, sweet, relaxing, pastoral sometimes... in few words:

perfect!

Of the ingredients above, sadness is the most important, musically, Sadness and poetry.

“Modra Rijeka”, english for “Blue River”, is based upon the self titled real cicle of poems and partially is based upon recitative parts, as in the opening move and in “Zapis o Zemlij”.

Sound is a real joy, featuring, above all, impressive work on bass guitar, acoustic guitar, classic piano, hammond organ and moog soloing (sometimes duets and “battles”) as you hear in the song “Blago” and in the extended track “More” (11,20 mns) and even in “More II” (4,19).

All instruments are definitely masterfully balanced. Attention! This is not a keyboard based album, it's more a mix between heavy and symphonic prog with that “GRANDEUR” that only comes from the masterworks. Great, great work on acoustic guitar. Passion, passion, friends. This is music I want to listen to.

And you, listen to me: “More”, please. What a big, big, huge impression caused to me this song! Wonderful and aggressive bass guitar solo and duet within a superb acoustic guitar!!

I repeat: listen to “More”, please. What a big, big, huge impression caused to me this one!

The album is a real gem, a must have for any good prog lover, especially for those who like symphonic and heavy prog. A very inspired yugoslavian band with attention to their own original mood.

The album is at the same level of other big opus: it has also its own “Lucky Man”: the beautiful, melodic, sad and joyful “Slovo o Covjeku”.

I see that my english cannot really give you the idea of what I've found in Modra Rijeka. Please, pay attention to internet where you can find this wonderful album. The best from Yugoslavia. On the top 5 of my entire discography.

http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28343 - Report this review (#156105) | Posted Thursday, December 20, 2007 | http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=156105 - Review Permalink

 
 
P.S. and what a wonderful cover art!!!Tongue
 
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/4387/2862/1600/album.43.jpg">


Posted By: Norbert
Date Posted: April 18 2008 at 09:56
Good Enthuastic review, Andrea, deserved to be posted here, too.


Posted By: Seyo
Date Posted: April 18 2008 at 12:59
Originally posted by Andrea Cortese Andrea Cortese wrote:

 
P.S. and what a wonderful cover art!!!Tongue
 
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/4387/2862/1600/album.43.jpg">


The author was a well-known graphic artist from Sarajevo , Mersad Berber. He now lives in Zagreb.
His favorite motives were horses and female faces. Even during my elementary school years in mid 70s, his pictures used to decorate the school textbooks...Big%20smile


Posted By: Mandrakeroot
Date Posted: April 18 2008 at 17:56
I've only  a great compilation with a Yugo version of The Beatles "A Hard Days Night" ("Ucini Jednom Bar") and a Rolling Stone's version cover of a song that in this moment I do not remember but with this title "Vrijeme je na mojoj strani".
 
As soon as I can do the review!


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Posted By: Seyo
Date Posted: April 20 2008 at 04:20
Mandrakeroot, this is excellent compilation you got, because it contains many rare tracks from the 60s plus several key prog songs. The Rolling Stones song was Time is on my Side, which is covered here!


Posted By: The Rock
Date Posted: April 20 2008 at 08:24
Hi guys,
 
Nice threads,all those Yugo bands.I must admit,I don't have much knowledge about these bands.I only have 4 CDs from Yugo;
 
Both Tako albums:Outstanding!Clap
The Drugi Nacin/Nepocin two on One CD:Amazing!Thumbs%20Up
And Indexi's Modra Rijeka:Great!Tongue
 
Now I  see that they have only 3 studio albums and a ton of compilations.I'd like to get one or more of these compilations.They must contain songs that are not on Modra Rijeka and of course most of the music must be progressive in some ways.No 60's beat/pop or syrupy ballads if possible.A few tracks on an album is Ok BUT NOT THE BULK OF IT.
 
Anyone can suggest something?
 
Thanks!
 
Alain


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What's gonna come out of my mouth is gonna come out of my soul."Skip Prokop"


Posted By: Mandrakeroot
Date Posted: April 20 2008 at 09:36
Originally posted by Seyo Seyo wrote:

Mandrakeroot, this is excellent compilation you got, because it contains many rare tracks from the 60s plus several key prog songs. The Rolling Stones song was Time is on my Side, which is covered here!
 
Yesterday, I heard very good, although I was in the car. Then, unfortunately, I have heard other and... I lost the opportunity to make a review!
 
In any case, it is really fantastic. Certainly recommend!


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Posted By: Seyo
Date Posted: April 21 2008 at 12:43
Originally posted by The Rock The Rock wrote:

Hi guys,
 
Nice threads,all those Yugo bands.I must admit,I don't have much knowledge about these bands.I only have 4 CDs from Yugo;
 
Both Tako albums:Outstanding!Clap
The Drugi Nacin/Nepocin two on One CD:Amazing!Thumbs%20Up
And Indexi's Modra Rijeka:Great!Tongue
 
Now I  see that they have only 3 studio albums and a ton of compilations.I'd like to get one or more of these compilations.They must contain songs that are not on Modra Rijeka and of course most of the music must be progressive in some ways.No 60's beat/pop or syrupy ballads if possible.A few tracks on an album is Ok BUT NOT THE BULK OF IT.
 
Anyone can suggest something?
 
Thanks!
 
Alain


Alain, try download this one: http://rapidshare.com/files/12570184/Indexi_-_Indexi__1972__YUG.rar

It is a very rare cassette tape issued in 1972. Many of the songs were never released on any other format.
No beat pop, no syrupy ballads, only prog!

Unfortunately, this is the only format (mp3) which is available to find now.


Posted By: Seyo
Date Posted: April 21 2008 at 12:46
If you prefer original CD quality, then go for "U inat godinama", 2CD posted above by Mandrakeroot. It is very good collection with few 60 beat and ballads and many key prog songs.


Posted By: DarioIndjic
Date Posted: May 12 2008 at 21:10
Originally posted by Seyo Seyo wrote:

Originally posted by The Rock The Rock wrote:

Hi guys,
 
Nice threads,all those Yugo bands.I must admit,I don't have much knowledge about these bands.I only have 4 CDs from Yugo;
 
Both Tako albums:Outstanding!Clap
The Drugi Nacin/Nepocin two on One CD:Amazing!Thumbs%20Up
And Indexi's Modra Rijeka:Great!Tongue
 
Now I  see that they have only 3 studio albums and a ton of compilations.I'd like to get one or more of these compilations.They must contain songs that are not on Modra Rijeka and of course most of the music must be progressive in some ways.No 60's beat/pop or syrupy ballads if possible.A few tracks on an album is Ok BUT NOT THE BULK OF IT.
 
Anyone can suggest something?
 
Thanks!
 
Alain


Alain, try download this one: http://rapidshare.com/files/12570184/Indexi_-_Indexi__1972__YUG.rar

It is a very rare cassette tape issued in 1972. Many of the songs were never released on any other format.
No beat pop, no syrupy ballads, only prog!

Unfortunately, this is the only format (mp3) which is available to find now.
 
As Sejo wrote, thats only prog and indeed my favorite Indexi release, everyone should listen to 'Negdje u kraju u zatisju' its possibly the best ex-yu prog song, the first ex-yu prog epic anthem.
Everyone should check it out!
 
 
 
 
 


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Posted By: T.Rox
Date Posted: May 17 2008 at 20:28
Modra Rijeka is the latest addition to my collection, and my first exposure to Indexi and Yugoslavian prog in general.
 
I am listening to it right now. It is an awesome ( I know this is an overused word today ... but it fits ) piece of prog that I am really getting into Cool Thumbs%20Up
 
It is just a shame I have no idea what they are singing about! LOL 
 


Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 17 2008 at 21:27
this and that Polish group Tuz recommended some time back are tops on my hit list...Andrea C and I have such similar tastes I know I'll love it.  Seeing Coops thoughts on it doesn't hurt either hahahha 

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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip


Posted By: Seyo
Date Posted: May 21 2008 at 10:54
Originally posted by T.Rox T.Rox wrote:

Modra Rijeka is the latest addition to my collection, and my first exposure to Indexi and Yugoslavian prog in general.
 
I am listening to it right now. It is an awesome ( I know this is an overused word today ... but it fits ) piece of prog that I am really getting into Cool Thumbs%20Up
 
It is just a shame I have no idea what they are singing about! LOL 
 
 
In this thread http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7440&PN=6 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7440&PN=6
you have two songs from "Modra rijeka" translated in English... Wink


Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 21 2008 at 19:41
have not found Modira Rijeka anywhere for sale.... not even the usual suspects ...

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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip


Posted By: ClassicRocker
Date Posted: May 21 2008 at 20:52
I've been listening to that cassette for a while now - it's an excellent release. Definitely "rocks"!

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Posted By: Seyo
Date Posted: May 22 2008 at 09:37
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

have not found Modira Rijeka anywhere for sale.... not even the usual suspects ...
 
Forget about usual suspects, Amazon etc..
 
You have LP vinyl on GEMM, eBay, Musicstack...
 
For LP collectors here are some exYU prog gems:
http://www.groovecollector.com/search1-0-1/2/label/jugoton.html - http://www.groovecollector.com/search1-0-1/2/label/jugoton.html
 
For cd go to:
http://www.balkanmedia.com/en/pop_music_by_alphabet-14.html - http://www.balkanmedia.com/en/pop_music_by_alphabet-14.html
or
http://www.kalemegdan-disk.de/yugoslavian_new_cds_%28g-k%29.htm - http://www.kalemegdan-disk.de/yugoslavian_new_cds_(g-k).htm
 
Big%20smile


Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 22 2008 at 22:13
thanks Seyo. Thumbs%20Up

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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip


Posted By: Damjan
Date Posted: May 22 2008 at 23:15
ima jedna modra rijeka, duboka je, sikora je, sto godina sikora je

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http://www.last.fm/user/kingofhebrews/?chartstyle=MDK">


Posted By: Seyo
Date Posted: May 27 2008 at 08:37
Music pruduction of BH Public Broadcast TV is preparing a monumental 17CDs+1DVD (!) box set dedicated to INDEXI. As a successor of former Radio TV Sarajevo they are in possession of many rare, archival and un-released Indexi songs. I can hardly wait because I suspect many of these songs were too avant-garde or non-commercial to be published at the time (late 1960s/early 1970s). The collection should appear in stores during 2008...


Posted By: ClassicRocker
Date Posted: June 07 2008 at 22:09
^^^Shocked Ooh, sounds exciting!

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Posted By: Seyo
Date Posted: July 18 2008 at 10:24
I just hope the final product will be worth waiting.


Posted By: Seyo
Date Posted: November 11 2008 at 07:28
My latest review of the excellent 2CD compilation:

http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=188733 - http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=188733

enjoy....


Posted By: Mandrakeroot
Date Posted: November 11 2008 at 09:15
Originally posted by Seyo Seyo wrote:

My latest review of the excellent 2CD compilation:

http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=188733 - http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=188733

enjoy....
 
And this is my review: http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=171079 - http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=171079
 
 
Excellent review, Seyo!
 
Excellent compilation, Indexi (and Croatia Records!).


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Posted By: Seyo
Date Posted: November 11 2008 at 09:56
Yes, I saw yours one too. :)


Posted By: zicIy
Date Posted: November 17 2008 at 00:22
Originally posted by Damjan Damjan wrote:

ima jedna modra rijeka, duboka je, sikora je, sto godina sikora je
... tisuć ljeta duboka je, o daljini i ne sanjaj, tma i tmuša neprebolna..."


Posted By: Seyo
Date Posted: November 17 2008 at 15:20
Another review: http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=189460 - http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=189460

http://www.progarchives.com/progressive_rock_discography_covers/1470/cover_252315482007.jpg -


Posted By: AlexUC
Date Posted: January 13 2009 at 21:15
^ Very good review. Tx Seyo

Bumping this one - I'm very glad 'Modra Rijeka' is appearing on the home page top 100. This album really deserves more exposure, I can't stop being impressed by the musical quality in there. You can hardly find a song like 'Brod' for example, so dramatic and energetic at the same time. I only own this one... which other would you guys recommend?


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Posted By: Seyo
Date Posted: January 14 2009 at 03:51
This "Nase doba" is a collection of old 60s beat and early psyche songs. Indeed I am also very surprised in positive sense that Modra rijeka hit the PA home page list of top 100, although it has comparatively small number of reviews.
Apart from Modra rijeka, I would recommend their first tape-only release "Indeksi" (1972), you can find many excellent prog moments there. The problem is - it is almost impossible to find unless you are content with the mp3 version of it. It is available to download here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/12570184/Indexi_-_Indexi__1972__YUG.rar
http://yurock.blogspot.com/search?q=indexi

Enjoy!



Posted By: AlexUC
Date Posted: January 14 2009 at 09:13
Tx, Downloading right now, I'll be commenting in there Wink


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This is not my beautiful house...


Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: January 14 2009 at 11:19
Originally posted by Seyo Seyo wrote:

Modra rijeka must be one of the best non-English language prog albums out there...Thumbs%20Up
 
best Yugoslavian, yes
very good, yes
but I still have some other non-English albums ahead of it, mostly from Italian bands and Romania's always underappreciated Phoenix


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Time always wins.


Posted By: Seyo
Date Posted: January 14 2009 at 12:21
You are right. There are many non-English bands that are excellent but unknown. I must confess that I don't know well even Italian scene, and not to mention other "eastern" countries. I heard about Phoenix and will definitely check them out....


Posted By: The Rock
Date Posted: January 14 2009 at 12:31
Bets non-English albums?
 
Harmonium and Morse Code!


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What's gonna come out of my mouth is gonna come out of my soul."Skip Prokop"


Posted By: clarke2001
Date Posted: January 14 2009 at 12:36
I would really like to find 'Modra rijeka' lyrics somewhere (perhaps the best lyrics I ever experienced in music) and translate them to English, at least in a rudimentary form. I had that idea since I joined this site, but I had never find the lyricsCry


Posted By: AlexUC
Date Posted: January 14 2009 at 14:20
^ I've been reading the translation of three of the songs in there forum_posts.asp?TID=7440&PN=6 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7440&PN=6 (I think you posted some of them) and I'm really impressed. Very beautiful lyrics in fact. Is 'Modra Rijeka' a concept album right? Please let us know if you can find something else


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This is not my beautiful house...


Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: January 14 2009 at 14:35
Originally posted by Seyo Seyo wrote:

Music pruduction of BH Public Broadcast TV is preparing a monumental 17CDs+1DVD (!) box set dedicated to INDEXI. As a successor of former Radio TV Sarajevo they are in possession of many rare, archival and un-released Indexi songs. I can hardly wait because I suspect many of these songs were too avant-garde or non-commercial to be published at the time (late 1960s/early 1970s). The collection should appear in stores during 2008...


any news regarding this? ^


Posted By: Seyo
Date Posted: January 15 2009 at 10:34
Originally posted by AlexUC AlexUC wrote:

^ I've been reading the translation of three of the songs in there forum_posts.asp?TID=7440&PN=6 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7440&PN=6 (I think you posted some of them) and I'm really impressed. Very beautiful lyrics in fact. Is 'Modra Rijeka' a concept album right? Please let us know if you can find something else

Yes, I posted these 3 (actually 2) songs in English. There are two translations of "Blue River" and a "Word about the Man". These 2 bear Mak Dizdar Foundation mark so I guess there are more available...


Posted By: Seyo
Date Posted: January 15 2009 at 10:36

Originally posted by Swan Song Swan Song wrote:

Originally posted by Seyo Seyo wrote:

Music pruduction of BH Public Broadcast TV is preparing a monumental 17CDs+1DVD (!) box set dedicated to INDEXI. As a successor of former Radio TV Sarajevo they are in possession of many rare, archival and un-released Indexi songs. I can hardly wait because I suspect many of these songs were too avant-garde or non-commercial to be published at the time (late 1960s/early 1970s). The collection should appear in stores during 2008...


any news regarding this? ^

Not yet I am afraid. Cry
I might well write again to the Music Production and ask them...


Posted By: Seyo
Date Posted: January 15 2009 at 10:46
I think some of the songs from "Modra rijeka" are taken from Dizdar's poetry book "Stone Sleeper" which has been translated into English.

http://www.tower.com/stone-sleeper-mak-dizdar-paperback/wapi/112131441 - http://www.tower.com/stone-sleeper-mak-dizdar-paperback/wapi/112131441


Posted By: clarke2001
Date Posted: January 15 2009 at 11:25
Seyo, would you believe it,  I was not able to find any  Dizdar's books (which I was searching since mid 90s)  in any Croatian bookshop!! (including the online shops).Angry

There might be a chance at second-hand bookstores, but it's a lottery.Cry




Posted By: Seyo
Date Posted: January 24 2009 at 06:48
Ha, amazing! But I believe you of course, since the "world we are living in" is occupied by consumerist junk all over around - I regularly attend book fair at Sarajevo, 2 times a year and it is unbelievable what type of trash literature has been put in front rows of the book stands (with few exceptions)...

But I ma sure Dizdar can be found at libraries (where you can borrow and make copies) or at second hand shops. Keep trying... Thumbs Up


Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: July 09 2009 at 11:13
Originally posted by Seyo Seyo wrote:



Alain, try download this one: http://rapidshare.com/files/12570184/Indexi_-_Indexi__1972__YUG.rar

It is a very rare cassette tape issued in 1972. Many of the songs were never released on any other format.
No beat pop, no syrupy ballads, only prog!

Unfortunately, this is the only format (mp3) which is available to find now.


Sead, I have downloaded this but it asks me for password when trying to unpack! Do you have the password by chance? Thanks.


Posted By: Todd
Date Posted: July 09 2009 at 11:32
Modra Rijeka is one of the most amazing albums I've ever heard!  It has quickly moved into my top ten of all time.


Posted By: Seyo
Date Posted: July 09 2009 at 13:53
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Originally posted by Seyo Seyo wrote:



Alain, try download this one: http://rapidshare.com/files/12570184/Indexi_-_Indexi__1972__YUG.rar

It is a very rare cassette tape issued in 1972. Many of the songs were never released on any other format.
No beat pop, no syrupy ballads, only prog!

Unfortunately, this is the only format (mp3) which is available to find now.


Sead, I have downloaded this but it asks me for password when trying to unpack! Do you have the password by chance? Thanks.

Sorry for this. I was not the one who uploaded it so I forget about the password.

Try this one:  najpogodnijemesto


Posted By: Seyo
Date Posted: July 09 2009 at 13:55
Originally posted by Todd Todd wrote:

Modra Rijeka is one of the most amazing albums I've ever heard!  It has quickly moved into my top ten of all time.

I am glad to hear you like it despite the language problems. This LP is surely something unique, even for the Yugoslav context back than... Cheers! Smile


Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: July 09 2009 at 14:01
Originally posted by Seyo Seyo wrote:

Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Originally posted by Seyo Seyo wrote:



Alain, try download this one: http://rapidshare.com/files/12570184/Indexi_-_Indexi__1972__YUG.rar

It is a very rare cassette tape issued in 1972. Many of the songs were never released on any other format.
No beat pop, no syrupy ballads, only prog!

Unfortunately, this is the only format (mp3) which is available to find now.


Sead, I have downloaded this but it asks me for password when trying to unpack! Do you have the password by chance? Thanks.

Sorry for this. I was not the one who uploaded it so I forget about the password.

Try this one:  najpogodnijemesto


It worked, thanks a lot!


Posted By: Seyo
Date Posted: July 09 2009 at 14:09
Several INDEXI titles are available here for download.




Posted By: Todd
Date Posted: July 09 2009 at 14:35
I've never viewed language as a barrier to my enjoyment of the music.  I do know that for this album in particular understanding the language would only enhance my appreciation.  Maybe I'll check out more of those translations mentioned earlier in the post.
 
I'm excited to try some of these downloads too.  These compilations are hard to come by in the US.  I also have the 1999 studio album.
 
Thanks!


Posted By: Seyo
Date Posted: July 10 2009 at 10:43
Exactly what I feel about language "barrier" - it never bothered me, but some people do find difficulties if they do not understand the lyrics. For me, the lyrics of songs are more interesting as sounds than as actual meaning, but I guess it is all personal feeling.
The second studio album "Kameni cvjetovi" (Stone Flowers) from 1999 is good, more pop rock, but far from Modra rijeka.
The recent 2CD compilation "U inat godinama" issued by Croatia Rec. is recommended for prog fans, no pop hits are included. Cheers.


Posted By: Seyo
Date Posted: August 02 2009 at 04:34
Cover images of Indexi releases have been slightly refreshed, for better looking... Tongue

http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1470 - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1470



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