PA's Battle to Stardom B2: ELP v. Tangerine Dream
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Topic: PA's Battle to Stardom B2: ELP v. Tangerine Dream
Posted By: MovingPictures07
Subject: PA's Battle to Stardom B2: ELP v. Tangerine Dream
Date Posted: October 20 2008 at 10:06
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This is quite a different collection of the prog spectrum! One of the most popular and also notorious progressive rock bands of the 1970s and one of the biggest pioneers of electronic prog pitted against each other. Give your vote to choose who advances! Please: If you are not familiar with one or both of the band's material, I urge that you use the links provided and at least listen to the samples on their respective pages (or Youtube if the particular band has no online streaming). ELP's PA page: http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=94 - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=94 TD's PA page: http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1295 - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1295 As always, discussions are encouraged. Recap: Round 2 B1: B1: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52648&PN=1 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52648&PN=1 Round 1 A1: A2: A3: Emerson, Lake and Palmer v. A4: A5: Can v. A6: A7: Van der Graaf Generator v. A8: Samla Mammas Manna v. A9: Rush v. A10: A11: Henry Cow v. A12: A13: A14: A15: A16: Gentle Giant v. A1: forum_posts.asp?TID=51423&PN=2 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51423&PN=2 A2: forum_posts.asp?TID=51492&PN=1 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51492&PN=1 A3: forum_posts.asp?TID=51567&PN=1 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51567&PN=1 A4: forum_posts.asp?TID=51630&PN=1 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51630&PN=1 A5: forum_posts.asp?TID=51711&PN=1 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51711&PN=1 A6: forum_posts.asp?TID=51778 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51778 A7: forum_posts.asp?TID=51855 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51855 A8: forum_posts.asp?TID=51928&PN=1 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51928&PN=1 A9: forum_posts.asp?TID=52011 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52011 A10: forum_posts.asp?TID=52091 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52091 A11: forum_posts.asp?TID=52158&PN=1 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52158&PN=1 A12: forum_posts.asp?TID=52246 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52246 A13: forum_posts.asp?TID=52336 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52336 A14: forum_posts.asp?TID=52411&PN=1 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52411&PN=1 A15: forum_posts.asp?TID=52487&PN=1 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52487&PN=1 A16: forum_posts.asp?TID=52571 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52571 ------------- 
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Posted By: MovingPictures07
Date Posted: October 20 2008 at 10:07
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It's probably obvious where my vote went.
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Posted By: febus
Date Posted: October 20 2008 at 10:09
Sorry, no vote for me...............like them equally
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Posted By: MovingPictures07
Date Posted: October 20 2008 at 10:11
Do you really like them equally or are you still protesting against Soft Machine's death?  -------------
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febus wrote:Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: October 20 2008 at 10:12
| Still haven't heard any Tangerine Dream, so I'll have to abstain from this one. |
Posted By: MovingPictures07
Date Posted: October 20 2008 at 10:14
Listen to the first two samples on their page!   -------------
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: October 20 2008 at 10:14
| I vote for ELP to draw the scores equal in this equal battle. |
Posted By: TGM: Orb
Date Posted: October 20 2008 at 10:28
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Ouch. Real, real problem. Two of my top ten albums (ELP and Rubycon). Two superb bands. Maybe ELP this time, because of the drumming on BSS. |
Posted By: LinusW
Date Posted: October 20 2008 at 10:30
I can't believe Area won over Marillion. Refreshing! 
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Posted By: febus
Date Posted: October 20 2008 at 10:37
Whoahhhhh!! You know all those obscure Zheul bands, Pat and never heard any TD!...You are an amazing man!
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Posted By: Luke. J
Date Posted: October 20 2008 at 10:40
| ELP without any question. Tangerine Dream is maybe sometimes nice to listen to, but nothing more. ELP for me has at least three albums I consider classics of progressive rock. The whole electronic direction of progressive rock is something I hardly can get into, and Tangerine Dream is no exception on this. So, it's ELP (who, by the way, will win this!). |
Posted By: MovingPictures07
Date Posted: October 20 2008 at 10:46
I agree; he needs to hear Phaedra, Rubycon, Stratosfear, Force Majeure, and Tangram at the very least. -------------
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Posted By: febus
Date Posted: October 20 2008 at 10:48
Let see
 ...there are quite a lot of ELP haters around here, believe me! |
Posted By: MovingPictures07
Date Posted: October 20 2008 at 10:50
I love them both, but... GO TANGERINE DREAM!!! -------------
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Posted By: febus
Date Posted: October 20 2008 at 10:50
Yes, at the very least, indeed
....there are so many other good ones, starting with my fave ''Underwater Sunlight'' |
Posted By: MovingPictures07
Date Posted: October 20 2008 at 10:51
Of course! That one should be in there too. Oh, and Ricochet... and White Eagle is pretty good too.... No clue what my favorite is, but Underwater Sunlight often gets too overlooked because it wasn't from the 70s. -------------
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Posted By: Roj
Date Posted: October 20 2008 at 10:59
| Much as I like Tangs (seen them live 3 times), it simply has to be ELP. |
Posted By: Thandrus
Date Posted: October 20 2008 at 11:03
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Tangerine Dream! I could listen all their pre-Exit albums without stoppage... for forever, I guess. Love also ELP, though. |
Posted By: darksideof
Date Posted: October 20 2008 at 11:04
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hum Hard choice! why? because to my both bands were pioneer int he development of the Prog scene. elp However My vote goes for Tangerine Dream Why? because TD made more tasteful and better albums than ELP. Don't get wrong I love ELP albums from their 1 to Works however after works ELP didn't (my personal Opinion) manage to make good albums after that. their Studios albums were EXTREMELY BORING! with extremely lack of creativity that their early albums had. However Tangerine Dream made some fantastics albums ( tamgram, Exit, until the 80's and recently their creativity had come back. ! ------------- http://darksideofcollages.blogspot.com/ http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/ https://www.facebook.com/pages/Darksideof-Collages/ |
Posted By: Alberto Muņoz
Date Posted: October 20 2008 at 11:04
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Vote for ELP sorry Tangram -------------  |
Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: October 20 2008 at 11:36
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ELP by far, i don't like at all Tangerine, so my vote goes to.... |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: October 20 2008 at 11:49
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Tangerine Dream!!!
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: October 20 2008 at 11:56
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This is an easy one for me -- Tangerine Dream.
------------- Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me. |
Posted By: darksideof
Date Posted: October 20 2008 at 12:29
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: October 20 2008 at 13:24
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Dont like ELP, dont like Electronic music in general, so I wont vote. I've just noticed that Kayo Dot are going to be paired up with Rush, that is so not fair!  ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005 
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Posted By: Norbert
Date Posted: October 20 2008 at 13:48
| ELP is my relatively least favourite classic symponic prog band,(some great music, but quite inconsistent as a whole) but considering who is their opponent I vote for them without hesitation. |
Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: October 20 2008 at 14:04
| ELP for me. My first band into progdome. |
Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: October 20 2008 at 15:21
 ------------- Over land and under ashes In the sunlight, see - it flashes Find a fly and eat his eye But don't believe in me Don't believe in me Don't believe in me |
Posted By: horsewithteeth11
Date Posted: October 20 2008 at 16:08
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TD for me.
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: October 20 2008 at 16:18
| it's gotta be ELP, one of the things that got me into prog. made me understand it. |
Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: October 20 2008 at 16:25
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A vote for TD.
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Posted By: jimidom
Date Posted: October 20 2008 at 16:25
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I cast my vote for the band with the flying piano.
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Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: October 20 2008 at 16:57
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ELP.
I just love'em more. TD are excellent as well though!
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Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: October 20 2008 at 18:00
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It's got to be the Tangs. ELP had their moments, but the Dream were consistently excellent up until Poland, barring the odd slip up like Cyclone. The Franke/Froese/Baumann line up was also brilliant on stage. ------------- 'Like so many of you I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |
Posted By: Sckxyss
Date Posted: October 20 2008 at 18:38
| It's too hard to judge TD on a couple sample tracks, so no vote here. (I do intend to get some soon, though!) |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: October 20 2008 at 18:50
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^myspace is your friend http://searchservice.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=sitesearch.results&type=Music&qry=Tangerine+Dream&submit=+Search+ - CLICK , listen, then vote TD.
------------- Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me. |
Posted By: Cactus Choir
Date Posted: October 20 2008 at 19:00
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Good grief, ELP winning a poll!? I'm shocked but pleased. I often get the impression they'd struggle to beat Little Jimmy Osmond on here. ------------- "And now...on the drums...Mick Underwooooooooood!!!" "He's up the pub" |
Posted By: topofsm
Date Posted: October 20 2008 at 20:56
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Hmm, I've heard a little Tangerine Dream here and there, and from what I've heard of them they've been more than a bit interesting. I've heard plenty of ELP, so I know what they sound like, and yes, they do occasionally get annoying.
Maybe I'll give TD a few more listens before I give a vote. ------------- 
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Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: October 20 2008 at 21:15
I've always liked that picture of them...envious of the setup and that lineup was the best IMHO.
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Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: October 20 2008 at 21:16
It's still early in the voting. Germany precincts tend to be slow with tabulating their results.
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Posted By: MovingPictures07
Date Posted: October 20 2008 at 21:17
Agreed. -------------
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Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: October 20 2008 at 21:22
Imagine all the fun you could have in a den or rec room with all that synth.
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Posted By: MovingPictures07
Date Posted: October 20 2008 at 21:36
That would be amazing. -------------
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Posted By: BroSpence
Date Posted: October 20 2008 at 22:34
| Not too big a fan of either, but I usually have a pretty good time when listening to the first few ELP albums. |
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: October 21 2008 at 02:34
Hear, hear!  As for the matter at hand, my vote goes to ELP. As uneven as their output may be, they are among the founding fathers of prog as we know it, and in my opinion this should never be forgotten. TD are a very interesting band indeed, but what I have heard (my other half is a big fan of theirs) didn't really rock my world. Electronic music is something I can take in small doses only, I'm afraid. |
Posted By: zicIy
Date Posted: October 21 2008 at 03:00
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Tangerine Dream |
Posted By: Urs Blank
Date Posted: October 21 2008 at 06:21
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ELP with no doubt for me! I don't want to irritate the many TD fans, but in deed I could not imagine they would be so many!  Tangerine Dream is way too atmospheric for me. ------------- Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it. Salvador Dali. |
Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: October 21 2008 at 06:31
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=155720909 - This might be the best of those ------------- Over land and under ashes In the sunlight, see - it flashes Find a fly and eat his eye But don't believe in me Don't believe in me Don't believe in me |
Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: October 21 2008 at 06:42
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I like both but TD have a much bigger body of great albums, so they get the vote. ------------- 
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Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: October 21 2008 at 06:59
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Come on all you ELP haters! I know you're out there (and TD fans too).
------------- Over land and under ashes In the sunlight, see - it flashes Find a fly and eat his eye But don't believe in me Don't believe in me Don't believe in me |
Posted By: MovingPictures07
Date Posted: October 21 2008 at 09:50
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Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: October 21 2008 at 17:34
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Poor Micky must torn up inside hahahaha . I went with T dReam mainly because when you have 35 albums or so , ya gotta go wiff da flow ! ELP is great but I only really get off on Love Beach (in terms of prog terrorism) . Nice avater BTW MP07 , very cool , almost as sexy as mine LOL ------------- I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth. |
Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: October 21 2008 at 21:28
Sometimes I'm in the mood for atmospheric. Eno would fit into that as well. I don't hate TD. It's good background music for reading.
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Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: October 21 2008 at 21:32
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Because ELP made Love Beach, they automatically lose the vote from me
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Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: October 21 2008 at 22:30
Oh come on, you know you love the sight of Lake's rippled chest |
Posted By: crimson87
Date Posted: October 22 2008 at 15:09
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ELP winning 2 straight polls , Metallica added... guess the crisis hit PA very hard |
Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: October 22 2008 at 15:50
| Tangerine Dream by a light year. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: October 22 2008 at 15:56
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wow... ELP winning... what the hell is going here at Prog Archives.... I want a rematch against f**king Camel..... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: febus
Date Posted: October 22 2008 at 16:33
Yes, Camel don't stand a chance now
I guess that since we had all those discussions about LOVE BEACH lately , people came back to their senses and finally recognised the value and merits of this great album, Tszirmay and I tried to promote very hard with the help of Crimson 87......We were on a crusade, we were , a lot of sweat but now ELP reap the rewards now.
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Posted By: trackstoni
Date Posted: October 24 2008 at 04:15
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Not a tough choice at all , i can't deny that I love both equaly , but for many reasons i'm gonna vote for Tangerine Dream . ( i had the chance to see both in action , in the Warfield of San Francisco , TD in 1992 , ELP in 1996 . they're both Great on stage .) ------------- Tracking Tracks of Rock |
Posted By: crimson87
Date Posted: October 24 2008 at 14:37
Leave them , they do not understand what "Love Beach" is about.Behind Lake's tanned chest there is a record which is 50 years beyond it's time and will be praised with greats like : Varese , Ginastera , Piazzolla , Copland and many more.
Probably since this is their most popular time in 30 years they may reconsider and go for a "Works III"
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Posted By: Hawkwise
Date Posted: October 24 2008 at 14:50
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T Dream For Me ------------- 
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