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Topic: Do You Prefer Live or Recorded?
Posted By: sigod
Subject: Do You Prefer Live or Recorded?
Date Posted: April 18 2005 at 11:49
I had a strange conversation over the weekend with a fellow musician about music and how it is best enjoyed. His contention was that in truth, listening to a record/CD/MP3 was a much better experience as there is nothing to get in the way of you and the band/artist. In addition, they are always at the top of their form and available whenever you want to listen/feel in the mood.

I said that seeing a live band is half of the fun for me as the sights, sounds (and smells) of the gig all add to the musical experience. Granted you might see a band on an off night but I believe that when it comes to prog, a live show beats a CD every time.

Any thoughts?






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Posted By: Debra59
Date Posted: April 18 2005 at 12:02
I like to watch bands live. But when I listen to bands I usually prefer the studio releases much more than the live recordings.


Posted By: Metropolis
Date Posted: April 18 2005 at 12:07
Recorded music is great but nothing  can compare to a live show.

After seeing Dream Theater, Rush, Iron Maiden, Metallica, The Mars Volta, Porcupine Tree and others i expeienced an intense adrenaline high that no recording can ever recreate.

Live music rocks.


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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 18 2005 at 13:18
I prefer  beer and a CD

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Posted By: Metropolis
Date Posted: April 18 2005 at 13:27
Oh, and I don;t drink (well not more than a couple of beers) or do any drugs before or at gigs.  I always appreciate it much more in a state of sobriety

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Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: April 18 2005 at 13:33

Having seen Porcupine Tree recently in a very,very small venue,I realise that I have been missing out on real live performance.

Let me explain.Since about 1985 I have only attended a few concerts (mainly Rush) and these have all been in large stadia.Rush last year was an absolutely superlative show,but that is what it was a "show".I was sharing the band with 20,000 others and there was no real interaction between band and audience.However,as I said,I went to see Porcupine Tree and there couldnt have been more than a few hundred people there.My friend and I ambled up to the stage (almost in shock) and stood directly against the apron.Anathema came on as support and we enjoyed the intimacy of the performance.The same with Porcupine Tree,we got a real buzz from the band and visa-versa-you really felt a connection and an input into proceedings.For all I adore Rush,I feel I got that elusive "something extra" from the smaller scale concert.We came out of the venue absolutely elated and "happy",and excited like teenagers again.

So,in the right circumstances,nothing can beat the "buzz" of a live performance by a band you love.



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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: April 18 2005 at 13:42
Important for me to see what these guys are doing. If you amongst 20,000+, over a 100m from the stage and band is playing a note perfect rendition of their album(s), I wonder what the point of going is, now I'm old enough to prefer my home comforts. I caught both Krimson and Led Zeppelin on their respectively first UK tours, both in the scrum of  the Tolworth Toby Jug. However, I didn't see any of the KC men in action during their performance and the loss of the visuals made for a very disappointing night. And wrt LZ, all I could see was Plant hair when he was shaking it up and down - but compared with KC, they were loud enough to cut through and make for a better night of live music.


Posted By: arkitek
Date Posted: April 18 2005 at 13:48

i coulsn't really vote opn this as i havn't seen any prog bands live  but i have seen dvds and from that experience (with surround sound) ..........

Defiantly LIVE music!



Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 18 2005 at 15:18
I saw Rush on their 30th tour and I really gotta get out to more concerts. Nothing beats seeing an artist perform their music for you.


Posted By: HaroldLand
Date Posted: April 18 2005 at 17:16
i saw yes last year twice, in toronto and london ontario, and i've been to about 10 other concerts in the last 3 years, and they have all been amazing, and yes' performances were right on, sounded like cranking up the album. however, i still prefer the home stereo experience, as everything is that much clearer and there are no screaming, obnoxious people or ear damage to get in the way 


Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: April 18 2005 at 18:29

I think there's some kind of energie in a crowd enjoying the same parts of music in a similar way, like your feeding each other with emotion, small venues gives the bands more a chance to share in that unleashed energie, and I think that makes them better, at least for the moment, when released on CD these shows tend to sound bad, because it's all a moment thing and you have to have been there to really apreciate that moment.

 

Maybe a strange piece of text, but it's the closest I get to my experiences.

 



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Posted By: Ben2112
Date Posted: April 18 2005 at 18:31
I love watching live VIDEOS but I'm not much for live ALBUMS. I'd usually much rather slap on Close To The Edge or Fragile than Yessongs, for instance.


Posted By: frinspar
Date Posted: April 18 2005 at 19:16
They're so different - live and Memorex - that I'd prefer not to choose. They both have their plusses and can't really be in competition.
When I lived in Austin I got to see so many live established bands - as well as countless local bands. Seeing Dream Theater in the Backroom on a stage that was about 3 feet high with no barriers between you and the band was absolutely amazing. Listening to 'Awake' on a killer system at the right volume can be pretty amazing, too.
Some of the shows at Frank Erwin Center were outstanding, but arena shows have always felt like watching an IMAX movie. It's fun but you still miss part of the experience. The smaller the venue the better the show.
 
When I wanted to be a guitar god I wasted my time at shows pretending I cared how players played and watched them rather than experienced them. Then I gave up the dream and found out that I could enjoy their technical expertise a little better on a recording. So I went to shows more to be in crowds, be with friends and share an experience. My musician friends still fought to the front to watch players play and I moved through the room listening and drinking Shiner Bock.
 
But there are some bands that excel at the live show and their energy is dampened when only ever experienced on a recording. And those are the bands that are truly consisting of kindred souls pushing for one goal.
Boingo and Fishbone are prime examples. They put on the absolutely greatest live shows. The energy is infectious. The music feeds the crowd and the bands get off on it and play to their peak.
Some bands put too many layers in their music which can sound spectacular on CD, but because members play multiple instruments in the studio their live output is stumped and the sound suffers.


Posted By: Arsillus
Date Posted: April 18 2005 at 20:08

My first inclination is to say CDs, but I also love seeing live shows. Both bring you some of the best. Obviously, CDs shows musicians at their (hopefully) best and most concentrated. But live shows, the whole experience, along with all the energy and improv jams (awesome) provides something CDs cannot; even live CDs. So both provide something the other doesn't. It's a toss-up with me.

 



Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: April 18 2005 at 20:25

Live shows are good (I've been to many over the years), and i liked them alot. There is just that atmosphere of seeing a performance. But there is something (I'm not really sure what the correct word would be) about sitting back in your lounge chair, drinkin' a cold one (a soda of course, being I'm 17) and fully enveloping yourself into a CD. It really allows you to focus on the music and "feel" what the artists are doing.

Also, if it comes to a CD, a studio version is much better that a live album. The sound quality is much, much better, even if it's with "primitive" CDs. And thats not saying there are no good live albums, it's just that it is rare (case in point- Playing The Fool by GG. Fantastic work, and a great sound )



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Posted By: valravennz
Date Posted: April 18 2005 at 20:57

I prefer CD listening experience over live shows. As mentioned in previous comments, the recordings are near to perfect and there is nothing better than sitting back and chilling out to your favourite recording with out outside interference, if possible .

I have enjoyed live shows in the past - the more intimate 2 - 5,000 audience numbers as opposed to stadiums, where you are so far back from the action that even a pair of binoculars does not always help.

I also enjoy viewing live concerts on video or dvd - if they are produced well enough not only do you get to hear superb music but you get close up shots that you would not normally see if you were part of the audience. The only thing missing is atmosphere and I agree with previous comments that "being there" can produce an incredible buzz and memories that stay with you forever. CD's can't quite produce that state of being - cheers



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Posted By: James Lee
Date Posted: April 19 2005 at 05:05

my stupid answer: recording artists are best on album, and performing artists are best live.  It makes sense, in a way, because not every band that puts on a good show is worth listening to when you're at home, and not every great work of music can or should be performed live.

Socially, even a so-so live show is better than good background music...and if it's really bad, it's even more fun. I've been to a few 'favorite band' shows where the band's performance didn't blow me away (as a live band, or compared to their albums), but it was cool enough just to finally get to see them.



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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: April 19 2005 at 05:18

Having sat  6 feet away from Gary Husband's bass drum during an Allan Holdsworth Group gig in Nottingham 8 or 9 years ago; I have to say this is how it should be. However, it is not without dangers: deafness for at least 3 days, and the risk of being hit it by a flying  drumstick or two - Husband hits those skins with some power and I still have one battered stick of Husband's which passed through my hair.

Talking live. Who's bought Husband's Force Majeure live at London's South Bank DVD yet - incredible  line up (including Jerry Goodman, Jim Beard, Randy Brecker, Matthew Garrison) playing jazz in a discernable prog rock fashion?



Posted By: TBWART
Date Posted: April 19 2005 at 05:33

When having a soundset that costs almost twice as much as your carWink, recorded music is just HEAVEN!!LOL BUT live is irreplacable!!! The best concert I have attended was YES at the 35 anniversary tour in Antwerp. I've also seen Caravan, Fripp, YES two more times, Rick WakemanClap, Terry Bozzio and lots more that I am not going to mention right now! And EVERY time I have been BLOWN AWAY!!!! Live is FANTASTIC!! To see the artist perform his own soul product is something that I cannot describe in words....I can only say look for concerts near you and visit ALL of them!!!LOL



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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: April 19 2005 at 05:44

I probably could've never appreciate Guapo had I not seen them live some 3 weeks ago.

Seeing a band live is really essential to understand it.



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Posted By: Jools
Date Posted: April 19 2005 at 06:07
This is one crazy Poll.  I enjoy both equally but whatever is immediate to the situation, I mean next time I'm in my car or in the bath Its hardly practical to prefer the live experience is it?

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Posted By: TBWART
Date Posted: April 19 2005 at 06:19

Originally posted by Jools Jools wrote:

This is one crazy Poll.  I enjoy both equally but whatever is immediate to the situation, I mean next time I'm in my car or in the bath Its hardly practical to prefer the live experience is it?

the poll is good, every time I eat a normal sandwich at lunch I prefer some caviar with expensive wine...as someoner earlier said; to understand the music correctely you have to witness a live performance!



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Posted By: frosty
Date Posted: April 19 2005 at 07:12

A live performance is the best way to enjoy music. Any band worth their salt will perform better live than in the rather sterile surroundings of a studio. As most prog bands have exemplary musicians the problem of an 'off night' is rare.

The only problem I have with some venues is the fact that they are seated. I saw Rush last year on their anniversary tour and the venue was seated. This I thought detracted from the overall live experience with audience interaction at a minimum. Almost 20 years previously I saw the same band at the same venue without seats and it made for an amazing night even though the set list for the anniversary tour was far better.

GET RID OF THE SEATS!!!

 



Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: April 19 2005 at 07:14
Originally posted by frosty frosty wrote:

The only problem I have with some venues is the fact that they are seated. I saw Rush last year on their anniversary tour and the venue was seated. This I thought detracted from the overall live experience with audience interaction at a minimum. Almost 20 years previously I saw the same band at the same venue without seats and it made for an amazing night even though the set list for the anniversary tour was far better.

LET'S GET KILLED AT CONCERTS!!!

Shocked



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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 19 2005 at 07:22
I'm to old for concerts now. I just cant be bothered anymore. Last one I saw was Dream Theater supprted by Spocks Beard in Nottingham!! It was on the Metropolis 2000 tour. That was a long drive!!....Hang on...did I see Yes in Cardiff after that?   *shrugs*

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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 19 2005 at 07:33

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

I'm to old for concerts now. I just cant be bothered anymore. Last one I saw was Dream Theater supprted by Spocks Beard in Nottingham!! It was on the Metropolis 2000 tour. That was a long drive!!....Hang on...did I see Yes in Cardiff after that?   *shrugs*

No...I went to see Steve Hackett last year........I think I'm losing it



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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: April 19 2005 at 08:07

I love going to concerts. You cant beat the excitement and anticipation you get a concert. Its been many years since I've been to a small gig.

I saw Rush twice on their last tour, and they were great, but as Reed rightly says, when you're stuck in a crowd of thousands there is no intimacy in the experience.

The smallest prog gig I went to was It Bites on their first tour. I saw them at a small club in Reading. Went right up to the front and even shared my pint with Francis Dunnery. Apart from the fact that their performance was superb, and the sound was brilliant, you cant beat that feeling of being right there in the thick of it.

Thats said, hearing an album for the first time can be very exciting too, and generally I'm not a big fan of live albums. Give me the real thing otherwise I'll settle for the studio album in the comfort of my own home.



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Posted By: sigod
Date Posted: April 19 2005 at 08:11
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

I'm to old for concerts now. I just cant be bothered anymore. Last one I saw was Dream Theater supprted by Spocks Beard in Nottingham!! It was on the Metropolis 2000 tour. That was a long drive!!....Hang on...did I see Yes in Cardiff after that?   *shrugs*

No...I went to see Steve Hackett last year........I think I'm losing it





I know the feeling.

It seems to be a fifty fity split which surprises me I always thought seeing a band live beats a CD into a cocked hat but there you go; I stand corrected.

I guess the older I get too, the less inclined I am to go out of an eveing and suffer the London transport system. That said, I'm off to see a mate of mine playing at the Marquee on Thursday and then I'm out again on Friday to see Kino at either the Astoria or the Mean fiddler (I forget which).

As for the size of venue, I always plump for smaller spaces although I'd almost never pass up a chance to see Rush either Reed.




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Posted By: James Lee
Date Posted: April 19 2005 at 08:23

Playing Devil's Advocate here...don't you think that by categorically stating 'music can truly only be appreciated or understood live', you're in effect insulting the artists who try to create a work of art via the recording?

I understand that live music has benefits that recordings can't deliver, but on the other hand a good piece of music is meant to be heard in depth- something that the live experience frequently fails to fulfil. When The Beatles created Sgt. Pepper and later decided to stop touring, they started a precedent for viewing the recording as something separate from the band's performance- something which does not translate fully to live music.



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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 19 2005 at 08:30
I reckon that if I lived in London I might go outto see bands more, theres so much going on there. When I was young I was at a Punk or New Wave concert all the time, it was cheaper then too.i wish I lived close to Mean Fiddler

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Posted By: PROGMAN
Date Posted: April 20 2005 at 04:07
I've Never Been to a Proper Rock Concert only a Pink Floyd Tribute Group (OFF THE WALL) they were Great

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Posted By: empty-spaces
Date Posted: April 20 2005 at 08:42

think it depends on the band as to whether to listen to a live release or a studio album, some bands are fantastic in either, (floyd, Led Zep,) but some bands are weaker in  one or the other, for example i prefer to listen to Dire Straits' live albums as they are far better than the studio albums,

Another good floyd tribute band are Australian Pink Floyd, i have seen them twice and they were really great both time, they did dark side note for note, it was pretty much spot on.



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Posted By: sigod
Date Posted: April 20 2005 at 10:13
Originally posted by Jools Jools wrote:

This is one crazy Poll.  I enjoy both equally but whatever is immediate to the situation, I mean next time I'm in my car or in the bath Its hardly practical to prefer the live experience is it?


That's a fair statement Jools. I think one environment does feeds the other to an extent but I believe to gain a real understanding of both a band/artist and it's music, a live gig gives you so much more.

If I may use Crimson (surprise, surprise) as an example, Fripp has always maintained that they are primarily a live creature with their recorded output coming a poor second. I'm not sure I agree that most KC releases are a 'poor' anything but I can understand his point of view.

To see a live gig is to see the music created right there in front of you, mistakes and all. I remember seeing Marillion preview Misplaced Childhood before the record had been recorded and the feeling of excitement from both the band and audience was palpable. Rush have been know to work out their new material in front of a live (as opposed to dead??) audience and they claim it gives them a chance to get feedback as a form of direction. Like a crowd at a sports event you become part of the process.

I just prefer the inclusion a gig offers. It's an active thing rather than a passive one, even if it does mean paying a minor fortune for tickets.



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