Prog Urban Legends
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Topic: Prog Urban Legends
Posted By: Bern
Subject: Prog Urban Legends
Date Posted: December 06 2008 at 14:27
Like in every domain, prog has its share of urban legends. Do you guys know about some you could share with the community?
Here are some examples :
- At the time Didier Malherbe joined Gong, he actually lived in a cave somewhere in France.
- Mike Ratledge once explained that his organ was dropped a few feet high during transportation before a gig and that, ever since, it had that unique tone and distorted metallic sound.
I'm interested in stories like this. Are they true or false? Who knows? The myth lives on though.
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Posted By: Bern
Date Posted: December 06 2008 at 14:50
I thought of another funny one :
- The song Son of Mr. Green-Genes made a lot of people believe that Frank Zappa was somehow related to the guy playing Mr. Green Jeans in the children TV show Captain Kangaroo.
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Posted By: zappaholic
Date Posted: December 07 2008 at 19:11
Bern wrote:
I thought of another funny one :
- The song Son of Mr. Green-Genes made a lot of people believe that Frank Zappa was somehow related to the guy playing Mr. Green Jeans in the children TV show Captain Kangaroo.
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.... not to mention the legend that Zappa either took or ate a dump on stage.
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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: December 07 2008 at 19:14
Robert Fripp hasn't stood up from his stool since the 70's.
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Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: December 07 2008 at 23:51
zappaholic wrote:
Bern wrote:
I thought of another funny one :
- The song Son of Mr. Green-Genes made a lot of people believe that Frank Zappa was somehow related to the guy playing Mr. Green Jeans in the children TV show Captain Kangaroo.
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.... not to mention the legend that Zappa either took or ate a dump on stage.
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I have heard that he was dumped off the stage.
"1971 however turned out to be a bad year for Zappa. In December a fan
let off a pyrotechnic at a performance in Switzerland, which resulted
in all of the band’s equipment being lost when the venue went up in
flames. This event was immortalized in the song “Smoke on the Water” by
the rock band Deep Purple who witnessed the event. One week later,
while performing in London, a deranged fan pushed Zappa into an
orchestra pit which left him with serious injuries including a larynx
injury and broken legs."
http://www.jazz.com/encyclopedia/zappa-frank-vincent - Source
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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: December 08 2008 at 12:49
That is NOT a legend: it happened for real and was the cause for the change of voice of Uncle Zapp'.
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Posted By: Toaster Mantis
Date Posted: December 08 2008 at 13:14
zappaholic wrote:
Bern wrote:
I thought of another funny one :
- The song Son of Mr. Green-Genes made a lot of people believe that Frank Zappa was somehow related to the guy playing Mr. Green Jeans in the children TV show Captain Kangaroo.
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.... not to mention the legend that Zappa either took or ate a dump on stage. |
I think that one's been said about Alice Cooper as well. Zappa http://www.snopes.com/music/artists/grossout.asp - himself has confirmed it's just a rumour, though.
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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: December 08 2008 at 13:29
By the way, several years ago, a friend of mine told that Ian Gillan once had sex with a groupie ON STAGE and on the keyboards of Jon Lord, for he was pissed off by Blackmore. I guess this story is totally false, right?
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Posted By: Toaster Mantis
Date Posted: December 09 2008 at 14:08
CPicard wrote:
By the way, several years ago, a friend of mine told that Ian Gillan once had sex with a groupie ON STAGE and on the keyboards of Jon Lord, for he was pissed off by Blackmore. I guess this story is totally false, right? |
I've never heard it, but it sounds very improbable. The mental imagery is hilarious, though.
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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: December 09 2008 at 14:16
Ulver recorded Natten's Madrigal in a forest to get such a buzzy lo-fi feeling.
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Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: December 09 2008 at 14:33
Probably false. James LaBrie actually has no testicles.
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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: December 09 2008 at 14:40
^lol!
Not Prog, but it's related. That Paul Mccartney isn't Paul Mccartney, he died a long time ago in the 60's and in Revolver I think a man replaced him saying he was Paul, in the cover arts of then onwards shows some hints of this(even if it isn't true)
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: December 09 2008 at 14:55
Toaster Mantis wrote:
CPicard wrote:
By the way, several years ago, a friend of mine told that Ian Gillan once had sex with a groupie ON STAGE and on the keyboards of Jon Lord, for he was pissed off by Blackmore. I guess this story is totally false, right? |
I've never heard it, but it sounds very improbable. The mental imagery is hilarious, though.
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I'm afraid it's true, and Ian Gillan has confirmed it, though I didn't read anything about him being pissed off by Blackmore in that particular occasion. In the story I read, told by Gillan himself, the singer and the girl were looking for a private place but couldn't find any, so they sneaked UNDER Lord's grand piano and did the deed there.
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: December 09 2008 at 15:00
cacho wrote:
That Paul Mccartney isn't Paul Mccartney, he died a long time ago in the 60's and in Revolver I think a man replaced him saying he was Paul, in the cover arts of then onwards shows some hints of this(even if it isn't true)
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I heard that story on the radio. And even though that must be at least twenty-five years ago, I can remember some details of it: he should have been involved in car accident on Nov. 9, 1966. The other Beatles should have looked for another left-handed bass player to replace him and they have found a guy named William Campbell. Paul's engagement to Jane Asher was broken and Linda Eastman popped up soon after.
I did not believe a word of it, but I loved listening to this story back then...
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Posted By: Toaster Mantis
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 05:08
Raff wrote:
In the story I read, told by Gillan himself, the singer and the girl were looking for a private place but couldn't find any, so they sneaked UNDER Lord's grand piano and did the deed there.
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That's slightly less hilarious... but only slighty.
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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 06:55
Raff wrote:
Toaster Mantis wrote:
CPicard wrote:
By the way, several years ago, a friend of mine told that Ian Gillan once had sex with a groupie ON STAGE and on the keyboards of Jon Lord, for he was pissed off by Blackmore. I guess this story is totally false, right? |
I've never heard it, but it sounds very improbable. The mental imagery is hilarious, though.
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I'm afraid it's true, and Ian Gillan has confirmed it, though I didn't read anything about him being pissed off by Blackmore in that particular occasion. In the story I read, told by Gillan himself, the singer and the girl were looking for a private place but couldn't find any, so they sneaked UNDER Lord's grand piano and did the deed there.
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WOW! I'm shocked! I would have thought that the Deep's were a bit more controlled at stage, well at least Ian....
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Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: December 11 2008 at 10:48
It's also a myth that Mikael Akefeldt decided to leave ALL his genetalia in a glass jar whilst writing and recording the album Damnation. Just a myth though...
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Posted By: A B Negative
Date Posted: December 11 2008 at 15:21
Rick Wakeman went out for a curry while the rest of Yes played Tales From Topographic Oceans at a concert.
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Posted By: Bitterblogger
Date Posted: December 11 2008 at 15:54
The Wakeman story is partly true--he didn't go out, he had it delivered. Might've missed some notes whilst stuffing his face. . .
Another I heard is that the E.L.O.'s "Fire On High" vocal, is, when played forward, "Turn back, turn back, turn back! The music is reversible, but time is not!"
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Posted By: Intruder
Date Posted: December 15 2008 at 04:10
I heard that Phil Collins left his soul at Heathrow customs in an undeclared BAC travel bag that contained, among other things, a quarter ounce of Peruvian blow and a half ounce of Tibetan finger hash....when he saw the dogs converge on his bag he vowed to leave behind his headonistic ways, which included his jazzy drum style and rock 'n roll heart.
In a related story, there isn't really a family of gypsies living in Michael Rutherford's nose, it's just a retired Canadian couple.
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Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: December 15 2008 at 12:04
Vompatti wrote:
Robert Fripp hasn't stood up from his stool since the 70's.
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I would actually believe that one.
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Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: December 15 2008 at 16:52
crimhead wrote:
Vompatti wrote:
Robert Fripp hasn't stood up from his stool since the 70's.
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I would actually believe that one.
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He must've gone through an awful lot of buckets in his time 
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Posted By: Bitterblogger
Date Posted: December 16 2008 at 00:30
Posted By: Guzzman
Date Posted: December 16 2008 at 11:33
cacho wrote:
Not Prog, but it's related. That Paul Mccartney isn't Paul Mccartney, he died a long time ago in the 60's and in Revolver I think a man replaced him saying he was Paul, in the cover arts of then onwards shows some hints of this(even if it isn't true)
| At the time it was rumoured that you could find proof for Pauls death on the album cover of Abbey Road. Paul is the only one who isn't in lockstep with the others; he's barefoot, which is said to be a sign of mourning in Sicily; the number plate of the VW Beetle in the background reads "28 IF" to comment on the fact that he hadn't reached that age.
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Posted By: St.Cleve Chronicle
Date Posted: December 16 2008 at 13:20
The church organ parts in Yes's "Going for the one" were recorded via telephone lines.
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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: December 16 2008 at 13:26
Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: December 16 2008 at 19:17
Maybe they sat on the same stool? We both know they have the power of invisibility, so they could easily work around gigging issues.
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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: December 17 2008 at 06:30
The Pessimist wrote:
Maybe they sat on the same stool? We both know they have the power of invisibility, so they could easily work around gigging issues.
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At first I read "giggling issues" and wondered how the invisibility would help. Anyway, they couldn't have sat on the same stool even if one of them had been invisible unless he had also been immaterial (in which case it would have been questionable if he had really sat on the stool or merely situated above it).
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: December 17 2008 at 06:44
Guzzman wrote:
cacho wrote:
Not Prog, but it's related. That Paul Mccartney isn't Paul Mccartney, he died a long time ago in the 60's and in Revolver I think a man replaced him saying he was Paul, in the cover arts of then onwards shows some hints of this(even if it isn't true)
| At the time it was rumoured that you could find proof for Pauls death on the album cover of Abbey Road. Paul is the only one who isn't in lockstep with the others; he's barefoot, which is said to be a sign of mourning in Sicily; the number plate of the VW Beetle in the background reads "28 IF" to comment on the fact that he hadn't reached that age.
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Paul McCartney was 27 at the time when Abbey Road was released: according to allmusic.com, the album was released on Sept. 26, 1969.
It is said that the cigarette in Paul's hand should be a sign of his death, and that John Lennon said 'I buried Paul' at the end of 'Strawberry Fields Forever'. John Lennon stated in reply that he had said 'Cranberry Sauce'.
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Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: December 17 2008 at 14:41
Vompatti wrote:
At first I read "giggling issues" and wondered how the invisibility would help. Anyway, they couldn't have sat on the same stool even if one of them had been invisible unless he had also been immaterial (in which case it would have been questionable if he had really sat on the stool or merely situated above it). |
Fripp never giggles. And Zappa chuckles himself to sleep every night. They would never dream of laughing in front of mere mortals like us.
There must be some way they could share the stool permanantly. I'm determined to get to the bottom of this.
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Posted By: Bitterblogger
Date Posted: December 17 2008 at 19:55
The Pessimist wrote:
Vompatti wrote:
At first I read "giggling issues" and wondered how the invisibility would help. Anyway, they couldn't have sat on the same stool even if one of them had been invisible unless he had also been immaterial (in which case it would have been questionable if he had really sat on the stool or merely situated above it). |
Fripp never giggles. And Zappa chuckles himself to sleep every night. They would never dream of laughing in front of mere mortals like us.
There must be some way they could share the stool permanantly. I'm determined to get to the bottom of this.
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"Sharing stool?" Now I know you're referring to that Zappa Urban Legend. . . 
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Posted By: Alberto Muñoz
Date Posted: December 17 2008 at 20:32
CPicard wrote:
That is NOT a legend: it happened for real and was the cause for the change of voice of Uncle Zapp'. |
I second that.
William Grey note that in the Mother biography
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Posted By: Alberto Muñoz
Date Posted: December 17 2008 at 20:35
Is interesting about that Paul is dead thing.
Check this link: http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/3674/pid.html - http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/3674/pid.html
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: December 18 2008 at 03:50
Alberto Muñoz wrote:
Is interesting about that Paul is dead thing.
Check this link: http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/3674/pid.html - http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/3674/pid.html |
Interesting indeed! The final evidence that it's a big hoax: four of the albums mentioned (of which two were probably obscure bootlegs) were released before Wednesday, Nov. 9, 1966 when the accident should have happened. Or even worse: his death might have been planned one year before. Food for psychologists...
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Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: December 19 2008 at 18:35
Bitterblogger wrote:
"Sharing stool?" Now I know you're referring to that Zappa Urban Legend. . .  |
Fripp is the only one worthy of sharing Zappa's stool.
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