Band without album under average quality!
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Topic: Band without album under average quality!
Posted By: poslednijat_colobar
Subject: Band without album under average quality!
Date Posted: February 26 2009 at 03:48
I've recently found a French band called Nemo and I think all their albums are above the average quality. What bands do you know not to make weak albums? I consider Pink Floyd like that, too!
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Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: February 26 2009 at 03:58
Meshuggah Isis Pelican The Mars Volta Godspeed You! Black Emperor Death Agalloch The Fall Of Troy Gojira Russian Circles SikTh The Red Chord Cynic Cult of Luna Mogwai The Postman Syndrome (only released one album though, lol) Kayo Dot maudlin of the Well Protest The Hero (Under prog related) Coheed and Cambria
I know, not a long list, but I'm very distracted and honestly cannot think of anymore off the top of my head.
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Posted By: poslednijat_colobar
Date Posted: February 26 2009 at 04:32
Wow, you're happy music man then! 
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: February 26 2009 at 05:01
King Crimson perhaps, possibly Floyd too. Of all their material I've heard, I've not heard anything I would rate below 3 stars. If thats any measure....
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Posted By: ghost_of_morphy
Date Posted: February 26 2009 at 05:09
I congratulate you on your discovery of Nemo. I haven't heard everything from them, but if their latest album is as good as the rest, I need to explore their back catalogue.
As I look through my massive prog collection and consider bands that have released more than one disc and which I have heard all of their discography, only two bands come to mind.
U.K.
Seven Reizh
Only two releases from each of them, but they are both of a very high quality. Grab them when you can.
Oh and I used a much more stringent standard than the person above me. Nothing below four stars (and verging on five.)
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Posted By: poslednijat_colobar
Date Posted: February 26 2009 at 05:31
ghost_of_morphy wrote:
I congratulate you on your discovery of Nemo. I haven't heard everything from them, but if their latest album is as good as the rest, I need to explore their back catalogue.
As I look through my massive prog collection and consider bands that have released more than one disc and which I have heard all of their discography, only two bands come to mind.
U.K.
Seven Reizh
Only two releases from each of them, but they are both of a very high quality. Grab them when you can.
Oh and I used a much more stringent standard than the person above me. Nothing below four stars (and verging on five.) |
Thank you for the detailed answer. I think your standard for average is quite high. - "Nothing below four stars (and verging on five.)". I have to listen to U.K. and Seven Reizh. It's strange, but I've never listened to UK. As for Nemo, I think every next album is better than the previous, but probably all of them will please you, when you like the last. The genre is the same, the music is similar, so try...
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Posted By: pianoman
Date Posted: February 26 2009 at 05:53
I'll make a list off the top of my head
Sigur Ros
Spock's Beard
Oceansize
Riverside
Sleepytime Gorilla Museum
Echolyn
Enchant
GY!BE
Kayo Dot
Mars Volta
Thats all I can think of at the moment.
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Posted By: poslednijat_colobar
Date Posted: February 26 2009 at 06:39
pianoman wrote:
I'll make a list off the top of my head
Sigur Ros
Spock's Beard
Oceansize
Riverside
Sleepytime Gorilla Museum
Echolyn
Enchant
GY!BE
Kayo Dot
Mars Volta
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Oh, you're lucky man, too!
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: February 26 2009 at 06:44
King Crimson, definitely.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: February 26 2009 at 06:51
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3.85 | 173 ratings
../album.asp?id=1144 - Gentle Giant
1970
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../album.asp?id=1145">

4.19 | 202 ratings
../album.asp?id=1145 - Acquiring The Taste
1971
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../album.asp?id=1146">

4.00 | 185 ratings
../album.asp?id=1146 - Three Friends
1972
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../album.asp?id=616">

4.23 | 309 ratings
../album.asp?id=616 - Octopus
1972
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../album.asp?id=1147">

4.39 | 224 ratings
../album.asp?id=1147 - In a Glass House
1973
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../album.asp?id=1148">

4.23 | 185 ratings
../album.asp?id=1148 - The Power And The Glory
1974
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../album.asp?id=1149">

4.37 | 186 ratings
../album.asp?id=1149 - Free Hand
1975
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../album.asp?id=1151">

3.82 | 101 ratings
../album.asp?id=1151 - Interview
1976 |
enough said
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: February 26 2009 at 06:52
oh wait.. the thread was 'under average' I thought it said ...average..
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: February 26 2009 at 09:16
I can think of plenty, but I suppose it would be cheating to name bands that only released a handful of albums.
That said, micky is right in that for a band with many releases, Gentle Giant has unbelievable consistency of quality.
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Posted By: Trial and Error
Date Posted: February 26 2009 at 10:13
micky wrote:
../album.asp?id=1144">

3.85 | 173 ratings
../album.asp?id=1144 - Gentle Giant
1970
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../album.asp?id=1145">

4.19 | 202 ratings
../album.asp?id=1145 - Acquiring The Taste
1971
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../album.asp?id=1146">

4.00 | 185 ratings
../album.asp?id=1146 - Three Friends
1972
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../album.asp?id=616">

4.23 | 309 ratings
../album.asp?id=616 - Octopus
1972
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../album.asp?id=1147">

4.39 | 224 ratings
../album.asp?id=1147 - In a Glass House
1973
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../album.asp?id=1148">

4.23 | 185 ratings
../album.asp?id=1148 - The Power And The Glory
1974
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../album.asp?id=1149">

4.37 | 186 ratings
../album.asp?id=1149 - Free Hand
1975
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../album.asp?id=1151">

3.82 | 101 ratings
../album.asp?id=1151 - Interview
1976 |
enough said
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Giant for a Day - 2.33. I rest my case.
It is indeed true that many classic Prog bands did have all of their classic albums over average, Genesis would be another clear contester for that claim, with all albums from Trespass to Wuthering being above average, but the longer a band plays, the easier it becomes for them to be lost in fame, and bring out some crappy CD a la We Can't Dance or Love Beach, or Too Old To Rock 'n' Roll, or so many more for that matter.
There's quite a few bands that still would stay at least above average, like Opeth did until 08, with Änglagard and Anekdoten coming to mind easily, or Sigh, whose third album is my avatar for that matter
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Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: February 26 2009 at 12:51
Trial and Error wrote:
micky wrote:
../album.asp?id=1144">  3.85 | 173 ratings ../album.asp?id=1144 - Gentle Giant 1970 |
../album.asp?id=1145">  4.19 | 202 ratings ../album.asp?id=1145 - Acquiring The Taste 1971 |
../album.asp?id=1146">  4.00 | 185 ratings ../album.asp?id=1146 - Three Friends 1972 |
../album.asp?id=616">  4.23 | 309 ratings ../album.asp?id=616 - Octopus 1972 |
../album.asp?id=1147">  4.39 | 224 ratings ../album.asp?id=1147 - In a Glass House 1973 |
../album.asp?id=1148">  4.23 | 185 ratings ../album.asp?id=1148 - The Power And The Glory 1974 |
../album.asp?id=1149">  4.37 | 186 ratings ../album.asp?id=1149 - Free Hand 1975 |
../album.asp?id=1151">  3.82 | 101 ratings ../album.asp?id=1151 - Interview 1976 | enough said
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Giant for a Day - 2.33. I rest my case.
It is indeed true that many classic Prog bands did have all of their classic albums over average, Genesis would be another clear contester for that claim, with all albums from Trespass to Wuthering being above average, but the longer a band plays, the easier it becomes for them to be lost in fame, and bring out some crappy CD a la We Can't Dance or Love Beach, or Too Old To Rock 'n' Roll, or so many more for that matter.
There's quite a few bands that still would stay at least above average, like Opeth did until 08, with Änglagard and Anekdoten coming to mind easily, or Sigh, whose third album is my avatar for that matter
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I agree, Gentle Giant doesn't quite qualify. They were brilliant for the majority of their run but those last 3 albums weren't very good.
1 album wonders excluded:
- The Doors - while I still have trouble with them as a Prog Archives artist their discography with Jim Morrison (I think it is a valid argument to say that a band should not continue under the same name after losing its signature member) is without blemish
- Anglagard
- Egg
- Hatfield And The North
- Kingston Wall
- Quella Vecchia Locanda
- Sweet Smoke (I think Darkness To Light is just fine)
- Trace
- UK
A couple notable near misses:
- Pink Floyd (blasted Final Cut)
- Ian Anderson solo (Walk Into Light)
- David Gilmour (About Face)
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Posted By: TGM: Orb
Date Posted: February 26 2009 at 13:02
I'm afraid I don't have many full collections, even by bands I love, but
I haven't yet got a Van Der Graaf Generator or Peter Hammill CD I dislike.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: February 26 2009 at 13:15
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: February 26 2009 at 13:55
I haven't heard all The Flower Kings albums, but as far as I'm concerned, I'm sure there are none under-average.
The Tangent and Transatlantic are totally brilliant, and don't feature any under-average album. Deep Purple from Proto-Prog barely does....
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Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: February 26 2009 at 14:06
I think a fairer questions is how many above average albums in a row. As many have noted, I don't know if it's fair to compare Anglagard who put out two and a live album (none below average) to Genesis who has both a Seven Disc run of brilliance flanked by weaker material or Gentle Giant who put out 9 great albums before succumbing to the sack of prog by punk.
Opeth has a great run going of which Watershed is at the top and spans at least 9 years. Don't let anyone fool ya.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: February 26 2009 at 14:18
Opeth is another good one to toss out..
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Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: February 26 2009 at 14:22
Well, there's always going to be a weak album or two within a band's catelogue, if they have any catelogue to speak of. If you're considering bands that have only release a couple of albums, then fissed out, that isn't a fair comparison up against a band that lasted for decades.
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: February 26 2009 at 14:25
Arena IQ Taal
just for fun:
Red House Painters
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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: February 26 2009 at 14:27
Pain of Salvation, dredg, The Dear Hunter, Chroma Key, Mr. Bungle, Guapo, Between the Buried and Me, A Silver Mt. Zion, Envy, Ulver, Tool
Only have two albums but also,
OSI, Wolves in the Throne Room, Grayceon, Gregor Samsa, Pax Cecilia,
Also everything Hughes said plus King Crimson. VdGG comes close but I'd say theyre one album shy of making it.
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: February 26 2009 at 14:28
stonebeard wrote:
Arena IQ Taal
just for fun:
Red House Painters
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Taal is cheating.
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Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: February 26 2009 at 14:38
Yes Nemo is a great band full of talented musicians, I've reviewed two albums by them and I was impressed by how easy they manage to handle the instruments. Are many more for sure, Jethro Tull, everything between Stand up to Broad sword are good, at least for me, Renaissance all from the '70's albums are strong, and many more, Iron Maiden all of the '80's albums are unmatched , etc
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Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: February 26 2009 at 15:03
Bungle
PoS  (they're pretty uneven)
Ulver  (I love this band but they've got several weak albums)
Tool  (Opening Pandora's box with that choice)
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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: February 26 2009 at 15:11
Only POS album I'd put under 3.5 is Scarsick and that would definitely be an Average album. POS are the most consistent metal band in my opinion.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: February 26 2009 at 15:20
I could think of many with, say, four albums or less, but for more Present, Univers Zero, and Miriodor spring to mind.
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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: February 26 2009 at 15:21
Transatlantic Dream Theater
I can't think of anyone else off the top of my head.
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Posted By: pianoman
Date Posted: February 26 2009 at 15:37
I love A Silver Mt Zion, but they have released one or two albums that make me cringe (13 blues for thirteen moons and This is our Punk Rock)
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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: February 26 2009 at 15:51
What is this the criticize my picks thread?
13 Blues for Thirteen Moons is actually my favorite album by them. Vocals are ungodly on it.
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Posted By: keiser willhelm
Date Posted: February 26 2009 at 16:02
Animal Collective. first band that came to mind
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Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: February 26 2009 at 16:35
Sorry, just saw a few in there that I really like but consider really uneven. I'm that silly fool who gave TPE five stars and Remedy Lane two. Tool is another one, I really like them, but I honestly don't think I've listen to any of their early albums through in their entirety (including Aenima). Great songs on them, but.....
And I felt ashamed not to have remembered Mr. Bungle as a fanboy, 3 awesome albums, significantly different sound. All 4+ stars.
Sorry I didn't mean to target you, just bands that I feel strongly about.
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Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: February 26 2009 at 17:10
^Yes, Tool are my favorite band, but their early work was anything but above-average. Pretty generic stuff, if you ask me. They only began to blossom with AEnima, so in my view, they aren't a band that has been all that consistant throughout their career.
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Posted By: JROCHA
Date Posted: February 26 2009 at 17:18
Isis Mogwai Tool, Im a big fan of Untertow and Opiate The Mars Volta Porcupine Tree Pelican
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Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: February 26 2009 at 17:42
The Decemberists The Mars Volta Oceansize Sleepytime Gorilla Museum
I haven't heard PG 2 or some of his soundtracks, but it seems like he could easily belong on this list.
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Posted By: pianoman
Date Posted: February 26 2009 at 18:25
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
What is this the criticize my picks thread?13 Blues for Thirteen Moons is actually my favorite album by them. Vocals are ungodly on it.
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Sorry, didnt mean to upset you.
I will admit that I've only listened too it twice. Maybe I should go back and give it another chance since I love them so much. My favorite is "Born Into Trouble as Sparks Fly Upwards."
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: February 26 2009 at 18:30
moreitsythanyou wrote:
The Mars Volta
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JROCHA wrote:
The Mars Volta
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Oh well, 50% of studio albums being tolerable is pretty good, isn't it? 
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Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: February 26 2009 at 19:04
stonebeard wrote:
moreitsythanyou wrote:
The Mars Volta
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JROCHA wrote:
The Mars Volta
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Oh well, 50% of studio albums being tolerable is pretty good, isn't it? 
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They are GREAT albums, I don't care what anyone says.
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Arnold Schoenberg
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Posted By: crimson87
Date Posted: February 26 2009 at 19:07
Besides the big three from Eclectic I would add Tribal Tech , Vital Information , The Tangent , Porcupine Tree and Rush.
The Soft Machine is another valid choice , their weaker albums are 3.5 stars to me
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Posted By: TheCaptain
Date Posted: February 26 2009 at 19:23
The Tangent and Transatlantic are the only ones I can think of although they both have made few albums.
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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: February 26 2009 at 19:53
I was just joking peoples. No need to apologize.
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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: February 26 2009 at 20:06
The Fall Of Troy Katatonia Nine Inch Nails Alice In Chains Agalloch Rage Against the machine Dredg
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Posted By: MovingPictures07
Date Posted: February 26 2009 at 20:08
Rush Henry Cow Frank Zappa (none are under average, there are just some that I don't like as much) The Mars Volta Ozric Tentacles King Crimson Echolyn Gryphon Univers Zero (probably)
Close, but no cigar: Porcupine Tree (except the debut) Magma (except MercI)
There may be some others I'm not thinking of.
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Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: February 26 2009 at 21:11
i don't know if Anekdoten has been mentioned, but that is the first band i though about...
sadly, some of the Italian monsters i love did release some lower albums...
another ones: Picchio dal Pozzo
Cabezas de Cera
King Crimson
Pink Floyd
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Posted By: ColonelClaypool
Date Posted: February 27 2009 at 10:32
Devin Townsend has, in my opinion, not made a single weak solo album. Porcupine Tree would also fit, if not for In Absentia and Deadwing ruining their track record.
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Posted By: Captain Capricorn
Date Posted: February 27 2009 at 10:45
Talking Heads! Every album was phenomenal!
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Posted By: keiser willhelm
Date Posted: February 27 2009 at 13:26
Magma is also a band with one of the most consistant streak of incredible albums... and they're STILL puting out music.
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