yet another Nick Cave appreciation thread
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Topic: yet another Nick Cave appreciation thread
Posted By: Toaster Mantis
Subject: yet another Nick Cave appreciation thread
Date Posted: April 04 2009 at 14:35
This dude has recently become my favourite singer-songwriter by far, meaning as much to me as Bob Dylan does to my parents, for several reasons:
I'm familiar with stuff from all over his career with the Bad Seeds, but working my way chronologically through it, a couple of Birthday Party songs (need to buy their albums at some point) and his film scores, but not Grinderman. I did talk to a friend who had seen them live and said it was pretty ordinary "dick rock" (as he calls it) like the stuff he listened to growing up  ... given that the Saints, an old Australian punk band, is one of Nick Cave's favourite bands of all time maybe Grinderman's a tribute to them?I also need to get around to watching both of the movies he's scored, I'm a sucker for weird and artsy westerns. ------------- "The past is not some static being, it is not a previous present, nor a present that has passed away; the past has its own dynamic being which is constantly renewed and renewing." - Claire Colebrook |
Seriously, a lot of his music has this kind of bizarro-Western atmosphere like Django or Alexandro Jodorowksy's El Topo. Actually, with all the weirdly used religious symbolism in the lyrics it's probably more like El Topo but on heroin instead of acid! Replies:
Posted By: Gorgo Ourgon
Date Posted: April 04 2009 at 14:38
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Murder Ballads is my personal favorite...a true macabre masterpiece! |
Posted By: Toaster Mantis
Date Posted: April 04 2009 at 14:42
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It's also the first one I heard. That one, and Let Love In, are probably his most user-friendly albums. ------------- "The past is not some static being, it is not a previous present, nor a present that has passed away; the past has its own dynamic being which is constantly renewed and renewing." - Claire Colebrook |
Posted By: angelmk
Date Posted: April 04 2009 at 19:28
| Nick Cave and the bad seeds is one of my fav rock groups . The Good Son is such a great album, Henry's Dream is very good, he has two missed albums for me :The Boatman's Call, No More Shall We Part ,besides that all the other are awesome |
Posted By: June
Date Posted: April 04 2009 at 21:54
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The Boatman's Call was a miss? What???
I love that album, it's a beautiful, minimalist piece of work (some lovely basslines on there too) that sure, sorta moved away from what he's been doing so far, but gosh, desperate love songs? Love that!
And, well, I don't hate Nocturama as a lot of people do, but I'm sure both No More Shall We Part and The Boatman's Call are better than that one.
I'd highly recommend the double album The Lyre Of Orpheus/Abattoir Blues, which is just spectacular, if you don't mind a bit of gospel choir here and there.
As for his last one, Dig Lazarus Dig, well it was sort of odd for me at first, because I thought he had started Grinderman to vent his rock side, and thought it really sounded like Grinderman, but it eventually grew on me, and I saw them live in September and OH MY GOD I did not think it could be that good live.
Seriously, it was the first time I saw them (after listening for them for like 10 years) and I was really blown away, despite my very high expectations.
Mick is leaving at the end of this tour though...
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Posted By: moe_blunts
Date Posted: April 04 2009 at 21:54
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One mo' mayyyyne gone One mo' mayyyyne gone... i love me some nick cave. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/moe_blunts/?chartstyle=minimalDarkRecent"> 
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Posted By: Toaster Mantis
Date Posted: April 05 2009 at 03:00
How are desperate love songs unusual for Nick Cave up until then? There's lots of them all through his discography before The Boatman's Call.
I have listened to that one, but not enough to really form an opinion on it. You don't listen to concept albums casually for the same reason you don't read a Dostoevsky novel casually. 
What? Hasn't he been like the longest lasting member other than Captain Caveman himself? ------------- "The past is not some static being, it is not a previous present, nor a present that has passed away; the past has its own dynamic being which is constantly renewed and renewing." - Claire Colebrook |
June wrote:Posted By: Man Named Joe
Date Posted: April 05 2009 at 03:11
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I love Nick Cave. My favorite album of his is probably Dig Lazarus Dig from last year, just a great album all around. Wonderful mix of post-punk, noise rock, and spoken word (and it's a concept album, too!!). Lyre of Orpheus/Abattoir Blues (which I tend to consider as two separate albums packaged together due to their different moods) and Tender Prey are very good as well. I highly recommend both. I have to second those who say that The Boatman's Call is a miss. Just never really moved me like his other albums that I've heard. |
Posted By: June
Date Posted: April 05 2009 at 08:03
Yes, there are other love songs.
Maybe it's a girl thing, liking that album
 As for Mick, well, the news has been on his personal website since January, saying more information is coming shortly, but that has been it. Yup, 25 years with the Bad Seeds. I'm sure it doesn't mean he'll stop collaborating with Nick altogether, though. And maybe he feels writing soudtracks is quieter than tour life or something.
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Posted By: Toaster Mantis
Date Posted: April 05 2009 at 11:46
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Hmmm. By the way, I listened to Grinderman on YouTube today and, yeah, it does sounds a lot like the Saints.  ------------- "The past is not some static being, it is not a previous present, nor a present that has passed away; the past has its own dynamic being which is constantly renewed and renewing." - Claire Colebrook |
Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: April 05 2009 at 12:43
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Nick's a genius, and here's the proof (or about half of it, actually): |
Posted By: Toaster Mantis
Date Posted: April 05 2009 at 13:17
God damn. That's one of the funniest music videos ever. 
------------- "The past is not some static being, it is not a previous present, nor a present that has passed away; the past has its own dynamic being which is constantly renewed and renewing." - Claire Colebrook |
Posted By: June
Date Posted: April 05 2009 at 13:39
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Oh gosh, I hadn't watched that vid in years.
Still love it, thanks for posting it.
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Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: September 01 2009 at 16:03
I just bought Murder Ballads recently and I'm lovin' it! I knew The Boatman's Call before and loved it too. Now, I definitely need to get more! ------------- "Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent." Charles Bukowski |