Is bar good for Prog?
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Topic: Is bar good for Prog?
Posted By: StyLaZyn
Subject: Is bar good for Prog?
Date Posted: April 21 2009 at 13:22
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I have often thought for sometime that a great place to introduce people to Prog is a bar (tavern) atmosphere. There have been many times I have checked the jukebox to see what song was playing. Not that new jukeboxes can access the Internet to download music, I myself, have taken the liberty of downloading some general public friendly Prog to the jukebox. Yes it cost a few extra credits, but it was worth it to see people going to the jukebox, like I did, to see what that song playing is during my Prog plays. It works much better for the newer stuff though. ------------- 
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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: April 21 2009 at 13:44
Ah..many a time I've been absolutely plastered and played prog on the jukebox, or requested some from a friendly DJ. Never did win me many dates at the end of the night, though
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: April 21 2009 at 13:53
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Yes, I've gone Wyatting many times, and I deliberately choose epic songs like "The Revealing Science of God" or "Supper's Ready." One friendly gent at a bowling alley noticed that I was responsible for "Close to the Edge," and around Wakeman's organ solo, approached me saying, "This is some gay ass sh*t. What the f**k is this?"  ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: April 21 2009 at 14:16
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I used to bring albums to bars when I used to go to bars where I knew the guy spinning the records. People would complain, whine, kick, pout and scream until the DJ put back on the usual crap of the day.
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Posted By: cronholm
Date Posted: April 21 2009 at 15:02
| Some prog can work pretty well; Jethro Tull (the more rockish stuff off Aqualung), 20th century schizoid man, the odd more mainstreamy song, never had it shouted down. Mind you, it only works in rock oriented bars though. Wouldn't try it in a your typical Brittney/Christina kind of place. Might not be well recieved. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 21 2009 at 15:15
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This reminds me of an old joke: a jazz musician, a prog musician, a country and western crooner, a disco queen, a pop artist, a heavy metal shredder, a classical musician, and a rapper walk into a bar (sequentially). Thud, thud, thud, thud, thud, thud, thud, thud. It depends on one's haunts. At most of the places (pubs/ bars) I frequent fairly frequently, prog generally would not go down well. At one it's more a soft jazz place, at another classical (no jukebox), at another it's jazz period, at another classic rock and country, and at another classic Prog in the vein of Yes and Pink Floyd would be fine, but probably not Art Zoyd, and of course there are many that are blues bars. Actually. I go more to live music places or places with music set by the establishment than places with jukeboxes. It depends on the place and also the kind of prog one chooses. The jazz bar would probably be more tolerant of Miles Davis than Dream Theater, for instance. I would be careful with my picks, and have brought along CDs for the staff to play that did not go down well. Inicidentally, when I was a bartender for a playhouse, The Lamb would get played a lot in its entirety (that's when I got interested in the album) and Frank Zappa was often on. No one complained.that I heard. But the usual favourite was the soundtrack for The Rocky Horror Picture Show. ------------- Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me. |
Posted By: StyLaZyn
Date Posted: April 21 2009 at 15:25
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Speaking of places to see live bands, last summer I was at a bar which had a band that pumped it's own pre-show music. I got really excited when they spun most of A Trick of the Tail. Unfortunately, the band played straight forward classic rock. Big let down.
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Posted By: Roland113
Date Posted: April 21 2009 at 15:29
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I've played Dance on a Volcano on one of the internet jukeboxes once. I can't say it really went over well but I enjoyed it.
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Posted By: gr8dane
Date Posted: April 21 2009 at 15:29
| In a Dutch 'coffee' bar,I might like a bit of prog. |
Posted By: MysticDreams2331
Date Posted: April 21 2009 at 16:28
I played A Change Of Seasons once followed by Glass Prison lol. My friend tried Octavarium on St. Paddy's Day. The Bar reset the machine before the continuum solo ended  |
Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: April 21 2009 at 21:29
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MysticDreams2331 wrote:Posted By: Plankowner
Date Posted: April 21 2009 at 22:31
Yeah, those boxes where you can search and play are fun... you could load it up with some prog that will take up the good side of an hour on 4 songs ($5) .. 
As far as a theme, you have understand that bars don't even realy like to host prog artists because most come just for the music and don't drink. The bar doesn't really make any money. I've heard this complaint alot.. So yeah I like the idea, but I really think it would have to me more of a place you can dine as well...
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Posted By: topofsm
Date Posted: April 21 2009 at 23:12
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Hah, not really bar-related, but in the school auditorium we have an ipod hookup to the sound system, and I was playing my regular prog stuff in the auditorium while doing things. Unfortunately, one of the choir kids got a hold of it and started playing all the show music he could find on my ipod, and I really don't care for hearing songs from the Lion King. Me and my friends asked to put on "Knots" and he never did. That jerkface...... ------------- 
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Posted By: Prog_Traveller
Date Posted: April 21 2009 at 23:43
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Well first of all I have to say that I seriously doubt many people who frequent bars even know what prog is so in that sense it doesn't really matter what you play on the jukebox. You might get funny stares from people but then again if it's late enough they will all be so plastered it won't really matter anyway. ;)
Several years ago there was a bar near me that had some prog stuff on the jukebox. No newer bands like Porcupine Tree or Mars Volta(this was before the latter appeared and before the former became very well known). I remember seeing "21st century schizoild man" listed as well as some Yes and Genesis(the wind and wuthering and trick of the tail albums if I remember correctly. I remember one time some guy playing "yours is no disgrace."
Another time at another bar I remember overhearing a conversation by two guys and a young woman. Someone asked the guy what kind of music he likes and the guy responded by saying something like "I like progressive music." The other guy said "I don't know what you mean. I know progressive dance music." To which the guy responded "No, I mean bands like Rush. "
 Yes, that is a true story although sometimes I wonder if I dreamt that. Unfortunately it was one of the rare times I didn't say something. Usually I would have said something like "oh yeah? Do you like Yes too?"  |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: April 22 2009 at 10:14
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Hi,
Not fo rme ... too many people screaming for something or other or burying their sorrows for posterity's sakes. Believe it or not it interferes with my enjoyment and visual "tripping" that I do with all music.
That's not to say I can not enjoy some Mouton-Cadet .... and catch a band here or there ...
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Posted By: victor77
Date Posted: April 23 2009 at 13:53
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In my city there was a bar called Ever, which was intended for prog music, and it only lasted a couple of years. On the other hand, I know some bars in which you can listen some prog from time to time, mainly the most rock oriented artists (Zappa, Jethro Tull, Pink Floyd, and so on), and people seem to enjoy, despite not really knowing what prog rock is. It seems to work, because they are often full of people |
Posted By: Toaster Mantis
Date Posted: April 23 2009 at 15:24
Last weekend the campus bar at the philosophy department of the University of Copenhagen (where I study) had a psychedelic rock theme, we decorated it in retro-1960s/1970s decor and played lots of obscure psychedelia like 13th Floor Elevators.  ------------- "The past is not some static being, it is not a previous present, nor a present that has passed away; the past has its own dynamic being which is constantly renewed and renewing." - Claire Colebrook |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: April 23 2009 at 15:38
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Bar, no. Karakoe, yes. Back when I was in college this jukebox at a Pizza Inn had Another Brick In The Wall with One Of My Turns on the B-Side of the single. Of course I picked it. It didn't come on until I was leaving though. I hope all the other customers enjoyed that.  "Would you like something to eat?"------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Posted By: Toaster Mantis
Date Posted: April 23 2009 at 15:47
I'm surprised it didnt' scare the hell out of everyone.  ------------- "The past is not some static being, it is not a previous present, nor a present that has passed away; the past has its own dynamic being which is constantly renewed and renewing." - Claire Colebrook |
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: April 23 2009 at 15:52
"One of My Turns"? OMG ! I can picture people running out of the place, leaving their pizzas half-eaten on the plate...
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: April 23 2009 at 16:24
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Yeah, it was kind of funny because I was such a total prog head at the time that actually finding anything of interest on a jukebox at the time was a practical impossibility. And having heard Another Brick In The Wall so many times I could do without ever hearing it again, when I saw One Of My Turns as a B side, I was like, "hey cool". Now I kind of regret not hanging around for the reactions.
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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: April 23 2009 at 16:27
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God I love that song....."one of my turns"
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: April 23 2009 at 16:34
I remember when I saw it performed live at London's Earls Court in the summer of 1980... It was a real goosebumps moment !
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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: April 23 2009 at 16:37
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You SAW the freakin' Wall show?? Oh jeezus I just died of jealousy.....God I'd kill to see a Wall show and a '66 show with Syd......my two Floyd fantasies!!!!
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: April 23 2009 at 16:41
I did ...
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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: April 23 2009 at 16:45
Cool....if you write a Wall review you'll have to include some personal recollection. What the hell are they waiting for on the DVD release? They have it on film. Put it OUT!! Before we're all DEAD!! ------------- https://www.youtube.com/shorts/sQD8uhpWXCw" rel="nofollow - It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood...Road Rage Edition |
Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: April 24 2009 at 23:45
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I've never played prog on a jukebox, but I have found playing Facelift by the Soft Machine to introduce people to prog doesn't go over to well. It would be cool to see The Wall concert but I have been avoiding The Wall like a plague for the past year. I grew so tired of it, especially ABitW part 2. I used tobe able to listen through the whole thing, and then play the first song again so I could hear the full "Is this where we come in" or w/e the quote is. |
Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: April 25 2009 at 03:41
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I find The Wall very musically boring, but I still would like to see the taping of the show, I think the studio doesn't do Waters' crazy idea justice.
I would like to go Wyatting. I have heard part of Dondestan, though, and I don't see why it would cause people to freak out. I would understand if it were Brotzmann or Zorn or something. People have such low tolerances for anything slightly different from regular rock. :( ------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: April 25 2009 at 04:30
Bowie always sounded good on a pub jukebox or some Frankie Goes To Hollywood ------------- ...As I venture through the slipstream, between the viaducts in your dreams...[/COLOR] |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: April 25 2009 at 12:49
| I feel prog requires silence and concentration, so I prefer introducing people to prog while at home, after achieving a relaxed state of mind. When I go to bars, I can never concentrate to music or to watching the match on TV, it's always the talk which gets most of my attention. In stead of bars, I would rather recommend concerts in small venues like clubs. |