American Prog?
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Topic: American Prog?
Posted By: GaryB
Subject: American Prog?
Date Posted: June 13 2009 at 10:31
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I'm an American (even though some people don't consider California to be part of the U.S.). During my album purchasing days I favored European music over American music and my collection reflects that.
But, I'm willing to admit that I may possibly have overlooked some good bands and I expect some of you to correct this oversight.
I'll start with bands I did not overlook and you can take it from there.
Electromagnets
Crack The Sky
Ethos
Pavlov's Dog
Fire Ballet
Starcastle
Frijid Pink
The Flock
Kansas
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Posted By: Captain Capricorn
Date Posted: June 13 2009 at 10:38
Don't miss Cathedral & Yezda Urfa!  |
Posted By: zachfive
Date Posted: June 13 2009 at 10:41
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trouble with forums... sry
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Posted By: fusionfreak
Date Posted: June 13 2009 at 10:41
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Shadowfax,Grits,Hands ------------- I was born in the land of Mahavishnu,not so far from Kobaia.I'm looking for the world of searchers with the help from crimson king |
Posted By: zachfive
Date Posted: June 13 2009 at 10:42
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Happy the Man. A great band formed in Harrisonburg, VA.
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Posted By: KingCrimson250
Date Posted: June 13 2009 at 10:43
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In only two posts, Happy the Man went from "very good" to "great." Now THAT'S progressive. |
Posted By: Captain Capricorn
Date Posted: June 13 2009 at 10:54
By Cathedral I mean of course the one that put out Stained Glass Stories in 1978 - not the neo-prog group from VA of the same name.  |
Captain Capricorn wrote:Posted By: MovingPictures07
Date Posted: June 13 2009 at 11:00
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Frank Zappa.
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: June 13 2009 at 11:06
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Echolyn Epignosis ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 13 2009 at 11:47
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Prot Kaw Glass Hammer ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: June 13 2009 at 12:00
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Dixie Dregs Maserati Explosions In The Sky good call on Electromagnets, not well known ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Posted By: enemyofthesundevils
Date Posted: June 13 2009 at 12:26
| Kayo Dot,Maudlin of the Well,and Time of Orchids are my faves.Theres loads of good post rock bands like Minsk,Cascades,Junius,and Constants and myriad others but way too many to mention. |
Posted By: meptune
Date Posted: June 13 2009 at 12:29
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Todd Rundgren's Utopia Captain Beefheart
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"Arf, she said" |
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: June 13 2009 at 12:30
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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: June 13 2009 at 12:58
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Chaos Code (for melodic symphonic nuts, get their first) Tea Club Deluge Grander ------------- ...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell" |
Posted By: mirco
Date Posted: June 13 2009 at 13:15
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Something theatrical is missing here. ------------- Please forgive me for my crappy english! |
Posted By: Captain Capricorn
Date Posted: June 13 2009 at 13:18
...keep dreaming  |
Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: June 13 2009 at 13:18
Now only if the economy and the stock market do that could we all afford to buy CD's and prog magazines. |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: June 13 2009 at 13:26
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IZZ Cheer-Accident |
Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: June 13 2009 at 13:41
Lots of good suggestions here. My addition: Tempest. They hail from the Bay Area. If you want to see a double-necked electric mandolin-mandola, this is the band to see. 
BTW: I too am from California, and consider those who don't consider us to be part of the US as just plain wrong. There are a lot of stereotypes and misconceptions about this state.  ------------- The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty" |
Posted By: KoS
Date Posted: June 13 2009 at 13:50
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Secret Chiefs 3 Sleepytime Gorilla museum Tool Adrian Belew Shadow Gallery Symphony X |
Posted By: Captain Capricorn
Date Posted: June 13 2009 at 13:58
I can't believe I over-looked Tool & SC3 - which also calls to mind Mr. Bungle, Naked City, & Praxis |
Posted By: njb0168
Date Posted: June 13 2009 at 14:04
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Little Atlas
Cryptic Vision
Salem Hill
and from California a little band Called Spocks Beard!
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Posted By: Kotro
Date Posted: June 13 2009 at 14:57
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Spirit
13th Floor Elevators
Phideaux
Discipline (& Matthew Parmenter)
Happy Rhodes ------------- Bigger on the inside. |
Posted By: anoah
Date Posted: June 13 2009 at 15:15
Yea! I love Crack the Sky. Great band! They don't get enough attention on this site. Not the proggiest band, by any means, but great hard rock/art rock. Their debut is great! 
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Posted By: Evan
Date Posted: June 13 2009 at 16:18
Also, The Mars Volta Dream Theater |
Posted By: rdtprog
Date Posted: June 13 2009 at 16:29
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My favorites are : Glass Hammer K2 Birds & Buildings Echolyn IZZ Neal Morse ------------- Music is the refuge of souls ulcerated by happiness. Emile M. Cioran |
Posted By: King Crimson776
Date Posted: June 13 2009 at 17:22
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Spock's Beard Neal Morse Dream Theater Tool Rocket Scientists
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 13 2009 at 17:31
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Aren't people just repeating bands already mentioned now? Yes they are! STOP IT!!! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: King Crimson776
Date Posted: June 13 2009 at 20:51
Hey it reinforces.
I only repeated a couple so there. |
Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: June 13 2009 at 20:53
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Shadow Circus !
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Posted By: Failcore
Date Posted: June 13 2009 at 20:55
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Primus Cynic Frogg Cafe TCP Mr. Bungle Savatage/JOP |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: June 13 2009 at 21:04
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P e n t w a t e r Zombi Don Caballero Spastic Ink |
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: June 13 2009 at 23:04
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The United States is very strong in Prog Metal with there being too many bands to mention although i have to say FATES WARNING is a fav of mine.I include Experimental/Tech and Post Metal when i mention Prog Metal. They are also huge when it come to jazz with Miles Davis,WEATHER REPORT,Pat Metheny,Herbie Hancock,Tony Williams and on and on.
Other bands i like are FROGG CAFE, DJAM KARET, CHROMA KEY,THE MUFFINS and Post Rock bands like RUSSIAN CIRCLES and RED SPAROWES. So many more though. ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: mirco
Date Posted: June 14 2009 at 01:07
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nightmare cinema. ------------- Please forgive me for my crappy english! |
Posted By: Weston
Date Posted: June 14 2009 at 07:11
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Birdsongs of the Mesozoic is interesting if you don't mind music that sounds like a cross between Schoenberg and train wreck. A group from the 80's Art in America sounds a little dated today maybe, but I enjoyed them a lot when they first came out -- and they were produced or engineered by Eddie Offord. And my current favorite US band The Ozone Quartet is fantastic, but I think they are no more. Also -- you know Canada is part of North America last time I looked. Did anyone mention Rush? Well then how about Miriodor, a greatly weird sort of RIO surreal experience? |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 14 2009 at 07:24
Thets OK!  ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: June 14 2009 at 10:04
A cross of UK and ABBA : Games
It seems that their sole album 'stargazer' is very difficult to find. Probably the most overlooked album ever.
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: June 14 2009 at 15:25
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California's best prog band is probably Djam Karet, but most often Spock's Beard seems to get those honors.
This new retro-prog band that's getting some attention is Astra. Based in SoCal (San Diego) where Tarantula Hawk (now defunct) were from...
Atavism Of Twilight...also defunct, also from SoCal. The bassist is now in Djam Karet.
K2's Ken Jaquess was originally in Atlantis, a symph-prog trio with a couple albums. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: SergiUriah
Date Posted: June 14 2009 at 16:00
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Psiglo ------------- http://img229.imageshack.us/i/bonfirma.jpg/"> 
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Posted By: SergiUriah
Date Posted: June 14 2009 at 16:02
I have a big list of interesting bands from America that I could show here. But I would like to make you a question before: When you talk about "American Prog?", are you considering the whole American Continent (ya know: Central America & South America too), or just only North American bands???
I tell you this because here in Europe we often see how (in the films, magazines, news...), people in U.S.A. call their country just like "America" (what isn´t correct), and perhaps if I put on here a list of bands from Uruguay, Argentina, etc etc...(there were excellent bands) maybe it won´t be what you were looking for. I´m confused about your requests...
Just for clearing up my doubts.
Thanx.
Cheers,
Sergio.
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: June 14 2009 at 16:04
| Unfortunately, here in the US there is this tendency to refer to the country as 'America' , forgetting that we're talking about a much bigger continent. So, I am sure the original intention was to refer to US prog. |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 14 2009 at 17:03
The country is America......it shares its name with the continent. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 14 2009 at 17:18
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funny... I thought I lived in the United States OF America.
------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: June 14 2009 at 17:32
The country is called the UNITED STATES of America, not America... Trust me, I live here . It would be like calling Italy or France Europe. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 14 2009 at 17:43
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speaking of that... don't you think Italy could have could up with something better better than.... Italy ....after the Risorgimento. Something like the United States of Papal Dominated hahhaha. would put a new spin on trying to find on an.. hmm... USPD resturant to satisfy an urge for Gnocchi. hahaha ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: June 14 2009 at 17:56
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I didn't see that Iluvatar was mentioned. Also, Discipline and Cryptic Vision should mentioned, too. E ------------- 
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Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: June 14 2009 at 17:58
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Oh, and Amaran's Plight. E -------------
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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: June 14 2009 at 21:18
In Canada we all refer to people in the U.S. as Americans,maybe it's unique to our country. We're called Canadians so we have to call you guys Americans 'cause United Statesians just doesn't sound right.  ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: Clepsydra
Date Posted: June 14 2009 at 21:22
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Yes Iluvatar! I love them!
Does anyone know if they are disbanded???
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Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: June 14 2009 at 22:47
In France as well, if you say "l'Amérique" (America) everyone knows you are talking about the USA. And "les Américains" (Americans) is the most common term to qualify US inhabitants.
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Posted By: Dominic
Date Posted: June 14 2009 at 23:23
Yup, i believe that you're pretty much going to have to look towards the avant and post-rock genre's to find the best US prog. .....btw, sweet sig. Micky  ------------- 
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: June 15 2009 at 01:56
Hey, I've always thought it a tad bit arrogant that most of us US Americans go around calling ourselves America. Just think of it as a nickname. After all, no other country in this hemisphere has America as part of their country name. And I'll take no offense if you just refer to us as gringos. Gringo Norte Americanos anyone? What's really also kind of funny this hemisphere takes it's name from an Italian, Amerigo Vespucci. Although according to Wiki, there's some dispute about whether or not that's valid. But that's what I was taught at some point in history class. ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 15 2009 at 02:18
Well no it wouldn't. France is not called "United States Of Europe" America as called "United States Of America". The clue is in the title. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: GaryB
Date Posted: June 16 2009 at 10:33
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Take it from a United Statesian, over the years we have been called just about every name in the book. |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: June 16 2009 at 11:02
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Hi,
The sad thing about any prog in America is that it's success is limited ... with top ten ruling the air waves and things like Sirius being just another AM station and glorifying hits to ensure that ASCAP/BMI get paid, the chance of a lot of these other bands making it is very tough ...
And this is the reason why some of these bands do so well in other countries, like The Rocket Scientists do great in Japan and Europe ... but in 1999 in SF when they played their hearts out at the Music Festival, people were not interested because they came to see Brand X and Porcupine Tree that night ... and they were prepared, good, and in my book put on a fabulous show ... talk about professionalism ... it's really hard to beat that ... it really is ... there is not much more that you can ask of a band.
America is too much top ten oriented ... and it's really sad when really good people like this, and many others, are ignored ...
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Posted By: GaryB
Date Posted: June 16 2009 at 11:20
| I agree that America is and has long been top ten oriented. Fortunately, I have enough "non commercial" music to listen to. Although I am out of touch with the music of today, I saw a lot of bands "make it" in the sixties and seventies and that was a tough market. I honestly don't know what it would take for a new band to "break into" todays music scene. |
Posted By: Captain Capricorn
Date Posted: June 16 2009 at 11:37
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The two bands I mentioned in my previous post, Cathedral & Yezda Urfa, were virtually ignored in the US also... |
Posted By: Garion81
Date Posted: June 16 2009 at 17:00
The official name is "The United States of America" so that means calling us Americans is proper for both the country and the continent. Our founding Fathers were already spinning copyrights and trademarks.
 BTW to refer to an earlier post there are two continents called America North and South not one.
Most of the the US bands have been listed but I didn't see Helmet of Gnats a great fusion band out of Conneticutt. Also Enchant from the bay area with a little prog metal. ------------- 
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: June 16 2009 at 17:35
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oh yeah one of me favorites; Eccentric Orbit out of Massachusetts |
Posted By: American Khatru
Date Posted: June 16 2009 at 19:05
| About Happy The Man, someone in here knowledgeable of them ought to improve their paltry Wikipedia entry. An the only album with its own page is their second one. (It ain't me though, I don't know them well enough.) |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: June 17 2009 at 02:44
Great CD! I hope they do another... ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: June 17 2009 at 02:49
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^ there's been rumors.. another band: terrific avant-garders Cartoon from S.F. via Arizona, comp CD Sortie is hugely recommended |
Posted By: mobby
Date Posted: June 17 2009 at 03:25
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surpised no one mentioned three of the best prog bands from us (or anyhwere else for that matter) in recent years
YOKESHIRE
SINGULARITY
LANDS END
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Posted By: American Khatru
Date Posted: June 17 2009 at 08:53
Call me crazy (an invitation, I know) but I think, if just for Mister Heartbreak, I'd name Laurie Anderson! Plenty prog musicians on it, and written with all the extension and intensity that goes into a good prog record. I wish she would have continued with albums like this one.
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Posted By: American Khatru
Date Posted: June 20 2009 at 06:15
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Umphrey's McGee. (Yeah, scraping I know. Guess there's nothing else to name...? Great thread though, thank you.) Edit: from a guy calling himself American Khatru, I'll tell you the term "American" is not solely ours. I have friendships with Mexicans, living in Mexico, and they are Americans too. Many of them, to avoid confusion in company, use the funny term "United Staters" (and not always contemptuously). I used "American" in my forum name only because "New Yorkian Khatru" sounded horrible . |
Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: June 20 2009 at 07:06
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Just added GAMES to the ProgFreak charts.
Hope the crossover prog team will accept its inclusion in PA. Here is the bio I wrote for them ;
"Games was a one-shot album band that were highly talented but never got the recognition they deserved. They played ear-candy progressive pop at a time when punk was making a breakthrough in the musical world. Information about them is almost inexisting. Their unique album ‘stargazer’ is available on vinyl format on a label specializing in ultrarare psychedelic rock albums “hippedelic records” at a price with 3 figures. If comparisons are needed, one could cite Supertramp for the proggy side, ABBA & Earth Wind & Fire for their disco side, Larry Fast and Eddie Jobson (at the time of
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Posted By: ghost_of_morphy
Date Posted: June 20 2009 at 17:12
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Nobody mentioned Farpoint? ------------- 
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Posted By: himtroy
Date Posted: June 20 2009 at 22:10
| Who doesn't consider California part of hte Unites States? |
Posted By: Tristan
Date Posted: June 21 2009 at 07:01
| Agalloch |
Posted By: American Khatru
Date Posted: June 21 2009 at 08:24
Kayo Dot (thanks Anderson III, you mentioned them in another thread, the one on the terror of silence ), and Gregor Samsa (I don't think they're so proggy m'self, but they're here).
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Posted By: American Khatru
Date Posted: June 21 2009 at 08:27
I can't find this. Could you post link(s)? Thanks. |
Posted By: proghog
Date Posted: June 22 2009 at 10:21
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Another recent addition to the list of great American Prog bands is a band out of California called "The Source." They are a group of young guys in their 20s playing some very enjoyable progressive rock. They have 2 albums to their credit: All Along This Land (2006) Prickly Pear (2009) Rumor has it that in August they will be on a short California Tour with another California prog band called Fractal. Peace.  |
Posted By: Captain Capricorn
Date Posted: June 22 2009 at 10:27
I just discovered Father Yod's American guru-rock group Ya Ho Wha 13 ...fan's of Amon Duul & ADII beware! 
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 11:23
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For me..
Zappa Kansas Happy the Man Spocks Beard Echolyn Dixie Dregs |
Posted By: markosherrera
Date Posted: June 30 2009 at 15:03
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Zappa Kansas Dream Theater Boston prog related Journey prog related Santana jazzrock sometimes prog Saga,Rush are canadians ,but Canada is American too ------------- Hi progmaniacs of all the world |
Posted By: Takeshi Kovacs
Date Posted: June 30 2009 at 15:30
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You could do worse than to check out Days Between Stations, a Californian band, so you'd be supporting one of your own! Also: Phideaux Discipline Timothy Pure Zombi Chronicles of Israfel Dredg Birds And Buildings -------------  Open the gates of the city wide....
Check out my music taste: http://www.last.fm/user/TakeshiKovacs/ |
Posted By: Takeshi Kovacs
Date Posted: June 30 2009 at 15:31
Edit - think Chronicles of Israfel might be Canadian! ------------- Open the gates of the city wide....
Check out my music taste: http://www.last.fm/user/TakeshiKovacs/ |