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Topic: New album from which fossil band?Posted By: RoyFairbank
Subject: New album from which fossil band?
Date Posted: June 14 2009 at 10:37
I excluded any of the big guys who have released an album this millennium, hence, Yes, KC, the Who, etc.
By the way the Who's new album is but I'll stop with my opinion
I'll just say that I would perhaps rather see a new Genesis album with PG and SH then a PF album, just because what I know about PF's history, them being my favorite band. I would like to very much see a new Waters album, though. I didn't like Gilmour's that much. Emerson Lake Palmer I like a lot but I haven't heard In the Hot Seat, which has a bad rep.
Replies: Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: June 14 2009 at 11:26
Magma... which of course not at all fossilised, but alive and kicking, even after 40 years since their formation!
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 14 2009 at 11:31
Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: June 14 2009 at 11:46
The Decermberists.
Joking, joking!
I personally wouldn't care about an album from any of these bands. I honestly do not have any hope that if Peter Gabriel got back with his old bandmates, the magic of the 70s (or any magic at all) would happen. It would be a pop record, plain and simple. A good one, maybe, but pop nonetheless.
ELP? They tend to just get worse.
I would love to hear a new Gentle Giant album. That could prove interesting (or a Wreck, no pun intended).
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: June 14 2009 at 11:53
^ Oh yeah, that too. It seems that the GG semi-reunion was excellent!
Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: June 14 2009 at 12:02
harmonium.ro wrote:
Magma... which of course not at all fossilised, but alive and kicking, even after 40 years since their formation!
I would have said that, but the original post said they can't have released anything this decade or millennium or whatever. That being the case, I agree with Gentle Giant.
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: June 14 2009 at 12:06
^ True, I didn't understand that request. GG for me too, then.
Posted By: St.Cleve Chronicle
Date Posted: June 14 2009 at 13:38
harmonium.ro wrote:
^ Oh yeah, that too. It seems that the GG semi-reunion was excellent!
...And it isn't over. Kerry Minnear is actually writing some new stuff for the band. We may not get a new GG album, but Three Friends' debut might just be coming some time in the future...
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: June 14 2009 at 13:47
The obvious answer of Genesis classic lineup, in the hope that Hackett, especially, would continue the fine progressive work he has been doing in a band setup.
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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: June 14 2009 at 14:48
The classic Genesis would be nice. Gabriel and Hackett would make it something a bit non - commercial, I think.
Some guest playing of Ant Phillips would be nice as well.
Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: June 14 2009 at 14:57
I voted for Alan Parsons Project. I think the possibility of turning out another good one is still there. Of course, at this date, any output from any of these bands will be a bit of a risk - we don't know what it would really sound like. ELP seems to have run their course, and I don't see how a Gilmour/Waters reunion would lead to anything really interesting. Although we've had Pink Floyd albums without Wright, a new one wouldn't be the same. Like Epignosis, I don't think a Genesis reunion would amount to much, but for a different reason: there is such a gap in the output of all the members since those old glory days, that I don't think there is much common ground left. Would that I would be wrong on these, and all got their acts together and produced truly classic albums.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 14 2009 at 15:05
I'd like a new studio album from Henry Cow.
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Posted By: MovingPictures07
Date Posted: June 14 2009 at 15:10
Logan wrote:
I'd like a new studio album from Henry Cow.
Hell yes.
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: June 14 2009 at 15:17
I've pretty much moved on from fossil bands. I'm kind of skeptical that any of them have anything new to say progwise that would ever surpass what they did in the past. More than enough good stuff by new artists happening these days.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 14 2009 at 15:18
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Logan wrote:
I'd like a new studio album from Henry Cow.
Hell yes.
Featuring Britney Speares on "Sock me baby one more time"?... Hell no.
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Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: June 14 2009 at 15:24
Slartibartfast wrote:
I've pretty much moved on from fossil bands. I'm kind of skeptical that any of them have anything new to say progwise that would ever surpass what they did in the past. More than enough good stuff by new artists happening these days.
This^
Well said Mr Bartfast
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 14 2009 at 15:27
Slartibartfast wrote:
I've pretty much moved on from fossil bands. I'm kind of skeptical that any of them have anything new to say progwise that would ever surpass what they did in the past. More than enough good stuff by new artists happening these days.
Yeah.... I think that Magma continues to do wonderful stuff, but it is derivative of the music they used to make. Nothing really new to say, it seems. Still, and I know Magma is excluded, I think the next Magma studio album will be lovely as I really like what they're doing. "Felicite Thosz" is one of my faves even if not that original. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maAFEQWeVFA - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maAFEQWeVFA and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTRlgUjsZh0&feature=related - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTRlgUjsZh0&feature=related
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Posted By: MovingPictures07
Date Posted: June 14 2009 at 15:28
Logan wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Logan wrote:
I'd like a new studio album from Henry Cow.
Hell yes.
Featuring Britney Speares on "Sock me baby one more time"?... Hell no.
That would be horrible.
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Posted By: paulwalker71
Date Posted: June 14 2009 at 15:30
Gentle Giant for me.... not that I expect it
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 14 2009 at 15:32
I expect that a new GG album would be better than their final three studio albums. It could be a chance for the group to redeem themselves. ;)
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Posted By: Evan
Date Posted: June 14 2009 at 15:35
Slartibartfast wrote:
I've pretty much moved on from fossil bands. I'm kind of skeptical that any of them have anything new to say progwise that would ever surpass what they did in the past. More than enough good stuff by new artists happening these days.
Very true - though I'd argue there are a few exceptions (PFM, Camel, Kayak, Magma) . But most of the big names - Genesis, Yes, Van der Graaf - have been underwhelming.
The only "dinosaur" that would have me rushing out to buy the album is Camel, and from the looks of things Latimer might be heading back to the studio once he recuperates for a little bit longer.
Posted By: King Crimson776
Date Posted: June 14 2009 at 16:24
Genesis with PG and SH just because I have no idea what they would come out with, it might not be good, but I'd still like to see it.
Posted By: RoyFairbank
Date Posted: June 14 2009 at 19:16
King Crimson776 wrote:
Genesis with PG and SH just because I have no idea what they would come out with, it might not be good, but I'd still like to see it.
It would be fascinating to see which member it sounded most like. You've got a lot of completely independent decades-long musical practice in there- Collins pop solo, Gabriel's neurotic-rock/pop, Hackett's prog and Banks and Rutherfords... well look at their last adventure, Calling All Stations .
I think Banks and Hackett would seriously push aside some of the pure pop that might be expected. If Gabriel had agreed to the scheme he would enter with some willingness to cooperate, while Collins, as he has said, is perfectly willing to "just be the drummer" in a reunion.
Plus, this wouldn't be a money-oriented album, elsewise they'd have already done it
Pink Floyd is split into two bands, Pros and Cons and About Face, as I like to think. About Face is so derelict its not funny, with Wright gone it has no credibility and only two members. Pros and Cons is a brilliant but lazy band with one member who is getting very, very old. The fusion would be more About Cons than About Pros.
Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: June 14 2009 at 19:25
It is agreat question.....but surely based on genesis's sheer dedication to studio material ( regardless of taste) they win hands down......I would give my left ..... to see another studio release from genesis, even without gabriel
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Posted By: mr.cub
Date Posted: June 14 2009 at 19:41
Give me one of the classic hard rock bands from the late 60's/early 70's. Cactus already did it so maybe something from James Gang or Thin Lizzy
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Posted By: Tsevir Leirbag
Date Posted: June 14 2009 at 20:20
Well, Wright's dead (R.I.P.).
Then my vote goes Genesis
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Posted By: AmbassadorOFunk
Date Posted: June 14 2009 at 22:52
Gentle Giant would be nice.
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: June 15 2009 at 02:02
Evan wrote:
Slartibartfast wrote:
I've pretty much moved on from fossil bands. I'm kind of skeptical that any of them have anything new to say progwise that would ever surpass what they did in the past. More than enough good stuff by new artists happening these days.
Very true - though I'd argue there are a few exceptions (PFM, Camel, Kayak, Magma) . But most of the big names - Genesis, Yes, Van der Graaf - have been underwhelming.
The only "dinosaur" that would have me rushing out to buy the album is Camel, and from the looks of things Latimer might be heading back to the studio once he recuperates for a little bit longer.
Now that you mention it, Stati Di Immaginazione was quite good.
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Posted By: ten years after
Date Posted: June 15 2009 at 06:24
Ten Years After with Alvin Lee
Cream.
Rolling Stones with Mick Taylor and Bill Wyman.
Peter Green, Danny Kirwan, John McVie, Mick Fleetwood
Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: June 15 2009 at 06:33
Gryphon. I heard rumours that they reunited; is that true?
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 15 2009 at 06:36
BaldFriede wrote:
Gryphon. I heard rumours that they reunited; is that true?
Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: June 15 2009 at 06:56
Evan wrote:
Slartibartfast wrote:
I've pretty much moved on from fossil bands. I'm kind of skeptical that any of them have anything new to say progwise that would ever surpass what they did in the past. More than enough good stuff by new artists happening these days.
Very true - though I'd argue there are a few exceptions (PFM, Camel, Kayak, Magma) . But most of the big names - Genesis, Yes, Van der Graaf - have been underwhelming.
The only "dinosaur" that would have me rushing out to buy the album is Camel, and from the looks of things Latimer might be heading back to the studio once he recuperates for a little bit longer.
I don't agree about VdGG; their two albums after the reunion were excellent; I especially love the improvisational disk of "Present" (though I am aware I am pretty alone there), but also the composed songs. At first only "Every Bloody Emperor" and "Nutter Alert" stay in the ear, but now I think that "Abandon Ship!" is the best of them; a fantastic song and an amazing self-ironical statement. The staggering rhythm as the "heptagenarians" get behind their desks really makes me laugh. I don't agree about Camel either, but they never have been overwhelming for me in the first place. They lack the necessary bite for me.
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: June 15 2009 at 07:31
A new Genesis album from the classic lineup would be a deception, I foretell: it will feel like getting Liebfraumilch when you expect Château d'Yquem. Exit Genesis.
On a new Pink Floyd album Richard Wright will be sorely missed. Exit Pink Floyd.
I would be surprised if ELP would sound as inspired as they did in the first half of the 70's, or if a new Alan Parsons Project album would be worth a listen.
Camel has the ability to produce reliable symphonic prog throughout the years, but they released a studio album in 2002. Maybe Comus, Gryphon or Led Zeppelin would give us some surprise, but I tend to expect more from more recent bands, so I don't give a vote...
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 15 2009 at 09:42
BaldFriede wrote:
Gryphon. I heard rumours that they reunited; is that true?
They reunited for a reunion gig: http://www.gaudela.net/gryphon/ - http://www.gaudela.net/gryphon/ and there was talk of a new album.
In September 2007 it was announced on Gryphon's website that, after
a silence of 31 years, the band had finally decided to produce a new
album. Whether the new Gryphon album will be a modern progressive and
commercial sounding offering like their later albums, or a return to
the predominantly medieval-based themes of their earlier works, has yet
to be announced. Whilst there was no timescale planned, it was
envisaged that it would be released in the Summer of 2008 with a
one-off London concert date also suggested, although not confirmed. On
15 September 2008, Gryphon announced via their website that the album
was still in production "albeit slowly".
On Saturday 6th June 2009 Gryphon performed a reuniun concert at The
Queen Elizabeth Hall, London. The four original members - Richard
Harvey, Brian Gulland, Graeme Taylor and Dave Oberlé - opened the
evening with a selection of songs and instrumentals from the first
album Gryphon. They were then joined by Jon Davie (the final bass player who appeared on Treason) and a new member, the multi-instrumentalist and film/production music composer Graham Preskett for the rest of the evening.
I would've loved to go to the concert. I wonder what happened with the album?
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 15 2009 at 09:50
Slartibartfast wrote:
Evan wrote:
Slartibartfast wrote:
I've pretty much moved on from fossil bands. I'm kind of skeptical that any of them have anything new to say progwise that would ever surpass what they did in the past. More than enough good stuff by new artists happening these days.
Very true - though I'd argue there are a few exceptions (PFM, Camel, Kayak, Magma) . But most of the big names - Genesis, Yes, Van der Graaf - have been underwhelming.
The only "dinosaur" that would have me rushing out to buy the album is Camel, and from the looks of things Latimer might be heading back to the studio once he recuperates for a little bit longer.
Now that you mention it, Stati Di Immaginazione was quite good.
I don't know why Stati di Immaginazione did so little for me -- too ambient for me perhaps? I preferred Dracula Opera Rock.
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Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: June 15 2009 at 10:46
Gentle giant would definitely be kool...
I keep hearing about a possible new album from Gryphon
I would love to see that as well.
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: June 15 2009 at 11:02
Let me see
Genesis: No way they would rescue the magic of the 70's, Tony Banks and Phil Collins are on another thing and don't see them able to keep the track of Peter and Steve.
Pink Floyd: Seems as the logic alternative because both Gilmour and Waters are active, but.....Would they be able to work without Rick as Pink Floyd
ELP: No way, they gone from bad to worst, their last release Brain Sald Perjury with 9 versions of Fanfare for the Common Man with 9 DJs is probably the worst thing I heard, don't expect nothing from them, since Works II
APP: Even worst, after Pyramids they only released good POP albums but nothing trascendental, and never were in he level of the three previous bands.
Gentle Giant: Never cared for them in their days of glory, much less would I care for reunion.
I'd rather save the good memories of them.
Iván
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Posted By: mr.cub
Date Posted: June 15 2009 at 11:08
ten years after wrote:
Ten Years After with Alvin Lee
Cream.
Rolling Stones with Mick Taylor and Bill Wyman.
Peter Green, Danny Kirwan, John McVie, Mick Fleetwood
Great choices! Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac would be something from heaven
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 15 2009 at 11:30
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
Let me see
Genesis: No way they would rescue the magic of the 70's, Tony Banks and Phil Collins are on another thing and don't see them able to keep the track of Peter and Steve.
Pink Floyd: Seems as the logic alternative because both Gilmour and Waters are active, but.....Would they be able to work without Rick as Pink Floyd
ELP: No way, they gone from bad to worst, their last release Brain Sald Perjury with 9 versions of Fanfare for the Common Man with 9 DJs is probably the worst thing I heard, don't expect nothing from them, since Works II
APP: Even worst, after Pyramids they only released good POP albums but nothing trascendental, and never were in he level of the three previous bands.
Gentle Giant: Never cared for them in their days of glory, much less would I care for reunion.
I'd rather save the good memories of them.
Iván
Matter of taste, of course, and I shouldn't expect it, but is there no Gentle Giant that you like? I would have thought that there would be some appeal, particularly with Three Friends.
Does this have no good effect?
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: June 15 2009 at 11:44
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
Let me see
ELP: No way, they gone from bad to worst, their last release Brain Sald Perjury with 9 versions of Fanfare for the Common Man with 9 DJs is probably the worst thing I heard, don't expect nothing from them, since Works II
Gentle Giant: Never cared for them in their days of glory, much less would I care for reunion.
Iván
I applaud you for listening to that ELP so I can be spared. Gentle Giant? Gentle Giant?, you don't like GG? What'sthehellamattawitchyou?
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 15 2009 at 11:47
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: June 15 2009 at 12:09
Logan wrote:
Matter of taste, of course, and I shouldn't expect it, but is there no Gentle Giant that you like? I would have thought that there would be some appeal, particularly with Three Friends.
Does this have no good effect?
Logan and Starti: I want to be honest, I own and heard:
Gentle Giant
Acquiring the Taste
Octopus
In a Glass House
Tried to like them, made a good effort, but hated all, even later bought the expensive box set Giant on the Box, but no it's futile, no matter how hard I try, can't stand their excessive vocal dissonances, I see them as a sort of hybrid between Symphonic and Medieval Troubadouresque Folk, but IMHO they got the worst of both worlds.
I have Three Friends somewhere in the boxes (I'm moving very soon) but is cataliogued, I only heard this album but didn't listened it carefully, will give another chance, because that Baroque organ has surprised me.
Iván
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 15 2009 at 12:42
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
Logan wrote:
Matter of taste, of course, and I shouldn't expect it, but is there no Gentle Giant that you like? I would have thought that there would be some appeal, particularly with Three Friends.
Does this have no good effect?
Logan and Starti: I want to be honest, I own and heard:
Gentle Giant
Acquiring the Taste
Octopus
In a Glass House
Tried to like them, made a good effort, but hated all, even later bought the expensive box set Giant on the Box, but no it's futile, no matter how hard I try, can't stand their excessive vocal dissonances, I see them as a sort of hybrid between Symphonic and Medieval Troubadouresque Folk, but IMHO they got the worst of both worlds.
I have Three Friends somewhere in the boxes (I'm moving very soon) but is cataliogued, I only heard this album but didn't listened it carefully, will give another chance, because that Baroque organ has surprised me.
Iván
Ah, well I'm glad you liked that track from "Three Friends". They have a considerable amount of material that is not in that troubadour style.
I think that it would have been good if Three Friends had been
your first foray into GG. I actually find quite a lot of variety in
the music (ergo Eclectic), some is more hard rock etc..... I might have thought that there'd be tracks
that you'd like off various albums at least: say "Nothing at All",
"Funny Ways" and the instrumental "Alucard" off the début. Off Acquiring the Taste which I think more avant than other releases, I still might have thought you'd quite like "Plain Truth". Off Octopus a lesser track, but the quite delightful "Dog's Life" and "In a Glass House" off In a Glass House I might have thought would have some appeal.
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Posted By: RaphaelT
Date Posted: June 15 2009 at 14:02
My vote goes to Gentle Giant
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 15 2009 at 14:05