Most shocking piece of music.
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Topic: Most shocking piece of music.
Posted By: St.Cleve Chronicle
Subject: Most shocking piece of music.
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 13:29
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To me, it has to be sh*tstorm by Strapping young lad. And you? (NOTE - Shocking does not mean bad. The list of ways in which a piece of music can be shocking would be endless) |
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Posted By: rdtprog
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 13:50
Yes, everything that Devin Townsend do is rather shocking! And i liked it... Maybe i have too many skeleton hidden in my cupboard... ------------- Music is the refuge of souls ulcerated by happiness. Emile M. Cioran |
St.Cleve Chronicle wrote:Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 14:00
Could you please explain to me what's so very shocking about it?  -------------  BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 14:19
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Since the example given by the OT is SYL, who are not a Prog band, I've moved this thread to General Music Discussions ------------- What? |
Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 14:21
Welcome to the hell of general music!  ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 14:22
Welcome to Prog Archives  ------------- What? |
Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 14:27
One of these days I will post a thread in the prog music lounge, and with God as my witness, it shall ne'er be moved! ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: Mr ProgFreak
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 14:27
Maybe "shocking" is not the right word. How about massive, dynamic, intense?  ------------- https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike" rel="nofollow - https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike |
Posted By: Mr ProgFreak
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 14:32
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 14:42
Dare I say that I found "The Goat and the Donkey" by the Bald Angels to be quite shocking when I heard it.  ------------- 
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Posted By: meptune
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 15:14
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Things lose their shock value over time, they get "one upped" again and again. I remember being shocked when I heard KCs Red and Lark's Tongues in Aspic (the tracks not the discs). I was shocked when I heard Zappa sing Broken Hearts are for A*******, especially because I heard it the first time at a live show. "Shocking" is definitely relative. ------------- 
"Arf, she said" |
Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 16:12
Not shocking but truly one of the most frightening music ever :
 ------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood) |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 17:16
| I would suggest listening to Diamanda Gallas for the first time as a quite shocking experience. |
Posted By: moe_blunts
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 17:22
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Koenjihyakkei has many a "wtf" moments.
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Posted By: mattmcl
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 17:25
| I saw GG Allin "perform" back in the eighties. Nothing will ever come close. |
Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 17:43
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Zombie Ritual - Death was pretty shocking in its time. But the most shocking album I ever heard (still quite shocking today) is Scum - Napalm Death.
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Posted By: moe_blunts
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 17:54
i don't know if i consider that lucky or not. what an experience. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/moe_blunts/?chartstyle=minimalDarkRecent">
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Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 17:59
I second Diamanda Galas' recommendation, espcially
------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood) |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 18:01
------------- Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me. |
Posted By: angelmk
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 18:12
i third this, i've heard whole album once and never dare to do that again . frightening , painful , not bad but extraordinary expierience for sure. Winds devouring men is much greater album
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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 18:42
| I can't explain it, but I found Halber Mensch by Einstürzende Neubauten very shocking the first time I heard it and I still do. Especially the title track. |
Posted By: meptune
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 20:16
Sometimes we describe shocking as bad, or even offensive. But there's another way to think of it. I would think of it as something that stunned me, hit me in such a way that I was dumbfounded, something that was so unexpected in it's power that I was left speachless. If I think of it in those terms I'd have to say that describes the first time I heard Birds Of Fire by Mahavishnu Orchestra. -------------
"Arf, she said" |
Posted By: Takeshi Kovacs
Date Posted: June 27 2009 at 04:13
 Review by hdfisch: Sick,completely sick!I can't tell more!--Noises from a surgery on someone still alive..... and some Slayer type of metal in between.If you like noise and sick music and you are fan of Slayer (and horror movies) well go for it,just have fun .....or just the most terrifying experience in music you've ever got!For sure "progressive" yes indeed! Even the most difficult FRANK ZAPPA albums are much easier to get into (maybe Mainstream compared to this), but once again....music????I would say rather NO!!!!Really only recommended for fans of very sick music (and of horror movies), humanoids,aliens and so on!!!! -------------  Open the gates of the city wide....
Check out my music taste: http://www.last.fm/user/TakeshiKovacs/ |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: June 27 2009 at 07:37
Agreed!  Another examples are my first auditions of SBB's "Follow My Dream" and Magma's "K.A." (both were my first encounters with said bands).Oh and I forget listening to GYBE's "Moya" on the PA streaming, my first encounter with post-rock. Wow! |
Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: June 27 2009 at 07:45
The first time I heard Psychic Jugglers by UneXpect on this very site  ------------- 
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Posted By: ghost_of_morphy
Date Posted: June 27 2009 at 17:52
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Posted By: angelmk
Date Posted: June 27 2009 at 19:53
man this is sick . that album i barely listened to the end .. it is horrible .. i hold myself not to throw the cd out of the window .. i thought i might use it as a frisbee or something ,but not dare listening that crap again. just bunch of noise nothing more.. and some says it is Prog .. i wont call that Prog or anything else ..
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Posted By: Evolver
Date Posted: June 27 2009 at 20:05
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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: June 27 2009 at 20:51
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfBVYhyXU8o&fmt=18 - Nobody's mentioned Threnody yet. ------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
Posted By: Synchestra
Date Posted: June 27 2009 at 21:38
SYL is pretty intense, and very loud. Meshuggah used to shock me  Mr. Bungle was almost frightening ('goodbye sober day' sure is a great track) but now i love them. but really aside from intense metal, or the insanity of something like Mr. Bungle, music has never really shocked me------------- 'Yeah, thats.. Whatever you're talking about for ya' - Zapp brannigan |
Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: June 27 2009 at 22:16
------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
Posted By: Synchestra
Date Posted: June 28 2009 at 05:31
I discoverd them when the weirdest music id heard was Radiohead  Fantomas also scared me, and i only discovered them like a month ago ------------- 'Yeah, thats.. Whatever you're talking about for ya' - Zapp brannigan |
Posted By: St.Cleve Chronicle
Date Posted: June 28 2009 at 07:17
Well, maybe it's that I wasn't very used to that kind of music when I heard it. And I'm still not, actually. We all feel differntly about different things. This is about everyone's personal shocking experience. |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: June 28 2009 at 08:52
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for me it is "Dem Guten, Schönen, Wahren" by Amon Düül 2. lyrically one of the most shocking songs ever, and definitely mega-shocking at the time it came out. you have to understand German though to be shocked. nowadays a lot more shocking songs have been written, but this one still grabs you. the lyrics of "Henriette Krötenschwanz" from the same album are supposedly just as shocking, but the way Renate Knaup sings them they are very difficult to understand; they only line I fully get is "dein helles Blut versickert im Sand", "your bright blood trickles away in the sand" -------------  A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: Valdez
Date Posted: June 28 2009 at 09:39
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The lyrics to Ptolemy by this guy are pretty shocking...
http://www.archive.org/details/NickTosches-Ptolomy - http://www.archive.org/details/NickTosches-Ptolomy
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Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: June 28 2009 at 11:05
Yes, Penderecki is quite difficult.
But in contemporary classical music, you have plenty of those "shocking" pieces :
Xenakis : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZazYFchLRI - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZazYFchLRI
Stockhausen : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4Nx-unHOOM&feature=related - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4Nx-unHOOM&feature=related
Ligeti : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aI0P1NnUFxc&feature=related - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aI0P1NnUFxc&feature=related
Radulescu : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PS9JKEnmhKo&feature=related - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PS9JKEnmhKo&feature=related particularly difficult
Ferrari : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Pgh-pl2F0M&feature=related - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Pgh-pl2F0M&feature=related
Messiaen : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SH70dvckyxM&feature=related - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SH70dvckyxM&feature=related ------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood) |
Posted By: himtroy
Date Posted: June 28 2009 at 23:24
| Arthur Brown's Kingdom Come in general. And no, I didn't say that because it's considered "shock rock", though I do enjoy a pun from time to time |
Posted By: Visitor13
Date Posted: June 29 2009 at 11:46
| There's supposed to be a recording circulating around the net of a Lebanese trumpeter playing to the accompaniament of Israeli bombs/shells falling around him. Haven't heard it personally, but I'd say it takes the cake. |
Posted By: Awesome McBadass
Date Posted: June 29 2009 at 11:55
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I usually don't listen to Sunn O))), but my friend told me to listen to "Bathory Erzsebet" and it's with out a doubt the scariest, piece of music I've ever heard. Apparently, they locked their extremely claustrophobic singer in a casket and recorded his screaming for the vocals. When my friend told me that, I was a bit skeptical at first, me being completely enthusiastic when it comes to anything and everything horrific/scary/creepy and never being freaked out by anything, so I figured "How scary could some screaming possibly be?" Needless to say, it was actually pretty jarring the first time I heard it and I actually had to turn it off. ------------- Lyrics: Wasted Time Between Solos. |
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: June 29 2009 at 14:48
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Cage's 4' 33" or Earle Brown's December 1952 should probably be in contention. ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: mattmcl
Date Posted: June 29 2009 at 15:17
Yeah, it was pretty sick. He was naked, defecated on stage and threw it into the audience, beat himself bloody with the mic, did some sick stuff with a dead cat, etc. |
Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: June 30 2009 at 03:50
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I have to agree with Jean about Amon Düül 2's "Dem Guten, Schönen, Wahren". Not only is it a song about a child molester, which switches between him boasting proudly about his deeds and an angry crowd which wants to first flog and then hang him, it is also hinted (though not explicitly stated) that the child molester is Jesus. I'd call this quite shocking, especially for 1969. ------------- BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: Green Shield Stamp
Date Posted: June 30 2009 at 05:46
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Ligeti's Requiem still has the power to shock - the polytonality and atonality of the choir is quite unnerving. It was used to good effect in parts of Stanley Kubrick's '2001: A Space Odyssey'. Ornette Coleman's 'Free Jazz' is quite shocking - two separate jazz quartets improvising different things but recorded together, producing (to my ears) a formless cacophony. ------------- Haiku Writing a poem With seventeen syllables Is very diffic.... |
Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: June 30 2009 at 06:05
Well, that requiem is one of my favorite pieces of music; it certainly does not shock me. ------------- BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: Visitor13
Date Posted: June 30 2009 at 10:40
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Nothing shocking about the Ligeti, nothing shocking about Coleman either. In both cases the alleged inaccessibility of the music is highly exaggerated. Nothing shocking about G. G. Allin's music, just your regular punk rock early on, and later some kind of noise with foul language on top a la Whitehouse, as I'm given to understand. Nothing really new or interesting, and I don't think anyone really attended Allin's concerts for the music, even if some of it might have appealed to punk or noise fans. There's a recording somewhere of Charlie Parker playing during a mental breakdown, that might be shocking, but mostly because of the context, I guess. Wouldn't be surprised if this was an urban myth. Throbbing Gristle has some pieces with really sick lyrics, but that would open up the way to all kinds of death metal/noise/power electronics ensembles, and none of these come across as shocking musically, or even lyrically nowadays. Henry Plainview mentioned Penderecki's Threnody, and it's an obvious choice. Peter Maxwell Davies has two pieces dealing with madness - "Miss Donnithorne's Maggot" and "Eight Songs for a Mad King". They're fairly shocking I guess, though there's likely more than a touch of black humour there. Iannis Xenakis had a piece the title of which I don't remember (Pleiades?), which I found really beautiful, only to learn that to Xenakis it reminded of people scattering under machine gun fire, something he must have had more than his fair share of during WWII. Beethoven's NInth made a few people go WTF?!! after its premiere, I wouldn't be surprised if his other late pieces did that as well. Carlo Gesualdo's works might have made a few people stare in horror in his time. |
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: June 30 2009 at 21:39
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Forgot to mention Stravinsky's The Rite of Spring. Najinski's choreography no doubt added to the shock value, but I think a good deal of the credit still belongs to the piece. ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: OzzProg
Date Posted: June 30 2009 at 21:54
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lol GG Allin....
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Posted By: mrcozdude
Date Posted: June 30 2009 at 22:05
sweet ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/cozfunkel/" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: meptune
Date Posted: July 02 2009 at 04:12
Brilliant. Is that what you'd call Prog. -------------
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: July 02 2009 at 04:27
Well, you might. John L., singer of Ash Ra Tempel, appeared naked on stage with a painted penis and had himself whipped. ------------- BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: Visitor13
Date Posted: July 02 2009 at 04:31
He did that pretty much every night, so this is probably why towards the end nobody cared. |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 02 2009 at 04:32
Thats the power of Krautrock. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Synchestra
Date Posted: July 02 2009 at 06:12
------------- 'Yeah, thats.. Whatever you're talking about for ya' - Zapp brannigan |
Posted By: Visitor13
Date Posted: July 02 2009 at 07:14
And with that kind of lifestyle you get old very fast. |
Posted By: clarke2001
Date Posted: July 02 2009 at 07:16
There was a guy even more insane than G.G. Allin, called Satan Panonski. If there ever was an enfant terrible of ex-Yugoslavian scene, he's the one. You may check his live performances on YouTube. But warning - that's not for the faint-hearted. |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: July 02 2009 at 07:20
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^ Then I'd rather stay faint-hearted. Let's stick on shocking pieces of music instead, not on some perverse acts to cheer it up. ------------- 
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