Ambient/melodic/epic Jazz Fusion recommendations??
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Topic: Ambient/melodic/epic Jazz Fusion recommendations??
Posted By: Yragael
Subject: Ambient/melodic/epic Jazz Fusion recommendations??
Date Posted: November 15 2009 at 19:02
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Hello everyone, I'm looking for tracks or albums of ambient jazz fusion music, my parameters are specially the track TIMELESS by John Abercrombie and "Night meets light" by the Dixie Dregs. Also, the first Lyle Mays album, specially the final tracks (Northern Lights, Invocation, Closer to home) are a case in point. This whole album is very melodic and atmospheric in a special way. It's a pity Mays went for a very commercial route with the follow up and didn't achieve the same mastery he has with the beautiful compositions of this first instrumental and very lyrical album. Bits of Alan Holdsworth also capture the essence of what I am talking about, and even the most melodic Mahavishnu Orchestra tracks, like HOPE, are very, very interesting. I guess I'm speaking about beautiful, lyrical melodic music that make you feel epic and alive! Any recommendations are very welcomed! Thank you! |
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Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: November 15 2009 at 22:29
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Jan Garbarek (albums starting from 'Dis')
Rainer Brüninghaus, 'freigeweht' and 'continuum'
David Sancious - 'the bridge'
Eberhard Weber - 'fluid rustle'
Harold Budd - 'the pavilion of dreams'
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Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: November 15 2009 at 23:01
| Try some Bill Frisell. I was listening to his album "History Mystery" today while doing homework, so he's on my mind right now. |
Posted By: Kazuhiro
Date Posted: November 15 2009 at 23:05
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The musician whom you proposed always makes the remarkable piece of work. And, you can discover new music of course even by the item of Jazz-Rock/Fusion. It is likely to be able to research even by "ECM" as material if it researches overall. http://www.ecmrecords.com/Startseite/startseite.php - http://www.ecmrecords.com/Startseite/startseite.php
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Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: November 16 2009 at 00:55
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Pat Metheny's album "The Way Up"
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Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: November 16 2009 at 01:15
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Jaga Jazzist's ''What We Must" is pretty epic and ambient. I always suggest ''Outbound" by Bela Fleck, because it's just too good not to listen to. |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: November 16 2009 at 03:50
I hadn't seen Brüninghaus mentioned on this site before.  Not sure that the Pavillion is exactly jazz fusion. I think I remember reading a comment somewhere that said an excellent pick for fans of the original Star Trek theme.  If you want something jazz fusiony by Budd, I'd recommend his Harold Budd & Hector Zazou album Glyph. Also Mark Isham has done some stuff you might like. Check out Tibet, Vapor Drawings, and/or Castalia. Also his collaboration with Art Lande - We Begin.By the way, Night Meets Light is one of my favorite instrumentals of all time. I really like Timeless, too. You might want to check out David Earle Johnson's solo albums, as well...
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lucas wrote:
Posted By: Yragael
Date Posted: November 16 2009 at 04:04
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Thanks everyone for the awesome list! I will go after these records and post comments soon! Thank you very much, I'm impressed with your knowledge of Jazz/Fusion/Prog and the level of this forum is indeed very high. |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: November 16 2009 at 04:11
| thing is, Abercrombie, Holdsworth and the others you mention are among the most unique and accomplished, and you sound like you have immaculate taste.. McLaughlin's My Goals Beyond worth checking, maybe DiMeola's World Sinfonia records and Jonas Hellborg's trippier albums [Zenhouse, etc.] |
Posted By: Yragael
Date Posted: November 17 2009 at 05:28
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Atavachron, thanks for the tips regarding McLaughlin, I don't have each and every album he released and will go after My Goals Beyond. I have a couple of Jonas Hellborg albuns back home (I live in England but I am from Brazil) and that's a good tip for sure, thanks! Also p0mt3, I checked out Jaga Jazzist and got the album you recommended, very good! Thanks, epic, melodic, well done and extremely atmospheric. It does hit the right buttons. The Harold Budd album mentioned is also quite good and atmospheric, thanks! I will comment more as I get it. Cheers! |
Posted By: Yragael
Date Posted: December 09 2009 at 20:06
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Lucas, the Rainer Brüninghaus records do strike the correct notes! Very good stuff very much in the vein of what I was looking for. I just got the ISHAM album (we begin) and more comments will follow! |
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: December 10 2009 at 07:37
| And Jon Hassell. Don't mess with Hassell. |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: December 10 2009 at 07:54
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I'm trying to decode wrt the examples of musicians cited, Abercrombie (with Jan Hammer and Jack DeJohnette) Timeless never struck me as ambient, rather an album I have to sit up and pay attention when it is played??? Certainly the nu.fusion/nu.jazz movement have examples of ambient fusion - for instance some of Jon Hassell as mentioned, some of Bugge Wesseltoft's releases, as with some of EST's tunes. The epitomy of ambient jazz in my mind were the handful of recordings by John Themis in the 80's (oddly Gary Husband's first recordings too) for the UK ambient/New Age label, Coda. Then you could pull in the 4 albums recorded by Jerry Goodman for for the US ambient specialist label Private Music, and some of the Windham Hill catalogue. ------------- The best eclectic music on the Web,8-11pm BST/GMT THURS. CLICK ON: http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php - http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php Host by PA's Dick Heath. |
Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: December 10 2009 at 11:35
| oregon might be what you are seeking |
Posted By: Yragael
Date Posted: December 13 2009 at 13:14
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Dick thanks for the tips. Could you tell me the names of the Themis and Goodman albums you recommended? Tim Leary: I remembered Oregon thanks to you and got their first album, great stuff and it does strike a note! I am specially fond of the time these guys started using keyboards in the 80s, Holdsworth and the first Lyle Mays album are good examples. A pity Mays went on to make terrible solo albuns, in my view. Jon, I will get that Metheny album you mentioned. I got "Secret Story" but it's too happy sounding and "World Music" for me. Also, getting the Harold Budd album, thanks for the recommendation!
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Posted By: Yragael
Date Posted: December 14 2009 at 01:20
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Jon the Metheny album you mentioned is indeed very good! For me a striking difference from his other album I had, "Secret Story", which, for my taste has got too much of a happy-cheesy world music sound. Very good album! Any other of his collaborations sound more like the Lyle Mays first solo album? The first Mays album has got something somber, ambient and severe about it which pleases me immensely. It's an album of textures and a kind of dense, thick feeling which pleases me very much. Basically it's what I get from the Abercrombie track, Timeless. |
Posted By: superprog
Date Posted: December 14 2009 at 02:39
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Supersilent - 6 (beautiful glacial improv jazz electronics)
Terje Rypdal - Odyssey / Waves / Descendre (if they ain't ambient jazz i dunno what is)
Barre Philips - Three Day Moon
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Posted By: javajeff
Date Posted: December 14 2009 at 04:56
| Pat Metheny - Offramp. The track "Are You Going With Me?" is amazing. |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: December 14 2009 at 08:28
http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.vinylrecords.ch/J/JO/John/John_Themis/Ulysses/john_themis_01.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.vinylrecords.ch/J/JO/John/John_Themis/Ulysses/john_themis_ulysses.htm&usg=__r1lQEyz0qExqQY__xBFezvWOAHM=&h=480&w=580&sz=40&hl=en&start=2&um=1&tbnid=ddc9mMbdLZuiCM:&tbnh=111&tbnw=134&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dj0hn%2Bthemis%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1 - http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.vinylrecords.ch/J/JO/John/John_Themis/Ulysses/john_themis_01.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.vinylrecords.ch/J/JO/John/John_Themis/Ulysses/john_themis_ulysses.htm&usg=__r1lQEyz0qExqQY__xBFezvWOAHM=&h=480&w=580&sz=40&hl=en&start=2&um=1&tbnid=ddc9mMbdLZuiCM:&tbnh=111&tbnw=134&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dj0hn%2Bthemis%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1
I see Amazon.uk are offering another album by Themis from about the same year for less than five pounds - but have no idea what this is musically:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/English-Renaissance-John-Themis/dp/B000KKWHAG/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1260800385&sr=1-2 - http://www.amazon.co.uk/English-Renaissance-John-Themis/dp/B000KKWHAG/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1260800385&sr=1-2
Also have Sirens on vinyl - but 2nd hand copy on offer at Amazon for 14 pound s( and not worth the risk).
Three CDs by Goodman recorded for Private Music, seem to be available:
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Posted By: Bitterblogger
Date Posted: December 14 2009 at 12:51
| The Metheny/Mays collaboration As Falls Wichita, So Falls Wichita Falls. |
Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: December 14 2009 at 14:17
| You might also be interested in Embryo, a german band with world music tendencies, very under rated and one of my favorites |
Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: December 14 2009 at 14:21
| oops, i just noticed from earlier post ambient and not world music so that might negate embryo, still a wonderful band |
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: December 14 2009 at 14:29
Damn, you beat me to it
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: December 15 2009 at 12:53
Ah, I just saw a mention of Jon Hassell. Not consistently in the vein you are looking for. The mental cuisinart kicked in and you might want to try this: Appears to be plenty of cheap used ones out there, you can try one on the cheap. Also a DVD video version available out there. Correction, there was. Appears to be out of print also. ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted By: Yragael
Date Posted: May 31 2010 at 06:40
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Bringin back this old topic, found this Billy Cobham track that totally fits in with what I was looking for! |