Would you sell out?
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Topic: Would you sell out?
Posted By: Henry Plainview
Subject: Would you sell out?
Date Posted: December 18 2009 at 12:32
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You are listening to Lark's Tongues in Aspic at 2pm on a Wednesday, and the phone rings. You do not hear it, but after it's done you play the message, and you hear a bright voice say, "Heeeeeeeeey [Your Name]! This Miley Cyrus! I was talking to my, like, best friend Henry Plainview, and he says you're, like, the best [your instrument] player in, like, the whole freaking world! Since he's never wrong, I want to make you, like, an offer. I want you to play with me on a Christmas album! Then we can go on tour! It'll be, like, so aweeeeeeeeeesome! Of course, since I know you're going to, like, be making all kinds of artistic contributions, we'll split the profit from the album and tour 50/50. Call me back babe! My cell is, like, 555-555-5555" You are stunned and are surprised that Miley Cyrus got your number, since the only person you've called in the past six months is Pizza Hut. What do you do next?
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: December 18 2009 at 12:36
I accept. First because I'd make money. Second because I'd tour the US. Third, I'll wait till she's legal, and I'll deliver Henry Plainview a huge blow to his ego...   
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: December 18 2009 at 12:36
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Without question. And when a person makes fun of me for selling out, I'll buy another case of the good stuff, turn up Judge Judy, and bring in the virgins to wax my loins. ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: December 18 2009 at 12:46
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I wouldn't classify it as selling out though, just diversifying a little. And, oh yeah, there is the money thing. I could use some. ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: December 18 2009 at 12:52
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I can think of few greater honors that to be merely in the presence of, let alone collaborating with the genius mind that has given humanity the gift of Party in the USA.
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: December 18 2009 at 12:54
Definitely YES to this scenario. I'll be playing Lark's Tongues on Wednesday, she'd better call or I'm coming for you Henry Plainview! 
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Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: December 18 2009 at 13:04
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No...but I have a family. I actually like my day job and my family life, and my little gig where I play at most a gig a month and do my own thing for the most part. Music is pleasure for me, and I've seen what it's like when it's work. It is HARD work. But I would probably turn it down even if Mikael Akerfeldt called too.
I'm an old fuddy-duddy.
------------- You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all. |
Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: December 18 2009 at 13:05
How does one remain a virgin while waxing loins?
Also you owe me brain bleach for putting Judge Judy and that image in the same sentence. ------------- You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all. |
Epignosis wrote:Posted By: Trademark
Date Posted: December 18 2009 at 13:16
| Only if I get to have my hair like her achy breaky papa did. Business in the front.... |
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: December 18 2009 at 13:33
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I would not. I don't know anything about the music of this little girl and, since I have a 9 to 5 job with an average pay, I'm not in a hurry to win thousands and thousands of dollars. Plus, I'm considering a dilemma: joining a jazz-rock drummer, a prog-metal band, a thrash-metal guitarist or trying to release my own CD-R? |
Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: December 18 2009 at 13:39
Don't ask me! I'm just the super!  ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: December 18 2009 at 13:41
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No. Not a hope. Can you imaging having to put up with that inane prattle all the time on the tour bus and in rehearsals. She simply does not have enough money to pay me to listen. I'd rather gouge my ears off with a blunt spoon. ------------- What? |
Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: December 18 2009 at 13:43
Hell, Dean...I could either put up with that and make a fortune or stay home and put up with it for free. ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: December 18 2009 at 14:43
As for me...yeah, I'd do it. Gotta pay for college somehow. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Salty_Jon" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: December 18 2009 at 14:43
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I don't really see how it's selling out. Would I take an easy job that pays lots of money? Yes in half a second. ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: December 18 2009 at 14:46
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Close to not even being tempted. ------------- 
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Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: December 18 2009 at 14:46
| It would be incredibly hard to put up with, but also very much worth it. |
Posted By: Tarquin Underspoon
Date Posted: December 18 2009 at 17:40
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Well let's clarify something here.
Is this a permanent gig as Miley's guitarist? For a long time, anyway? No way. No way I'm doing that.
You need me in the studio for, say, 2 months, on the road for a few months more? Yeah, I'd do it, get paid, and go back to listening to Larks' Tongues when I get home (on considerably better speakers, at that). ------------- "WAAAAAAOOOOOUGH! WAAAAAAAUUUUGGHHHH!! WAAAAAOOOO!!!" -The Great Gig in the Sky |
Posted By: Trademark
Date Posted: December 18 2009 at 17:45
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"I don't really see how it's selling out. Would I take an easy job that pays lots of money? Yes in half a second. " Spoken like a true music major. Never turn down a gig or a free meal.
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Posted By: zappaholic
Date Posted: December 18 2009 at 20:32
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I'd figure it was a prank call, and I'd ignore it.
------------- "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard." -- H.L. Mencken |
Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: December 18 2009 at 20:54
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Like Pat, I don't see why it's selling out. I'm sure most people people don't work at fast food because they love doing that, surely, so if they are only doing it for the money, they must surely be selling out. And f**k it, if it's only about the money, hell yeah I'd do it, and to be honest, I think I would genuinely enjoy touring with Miley Cyrus, as much as I despise her music, more so than working a mundane fast food job. |
Posted By: jammun
Date Posted: December 18 2009 at 21:00
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So what's the pay? Union scale? More than likely there's not much money in this gig. On the other hand, I'd be asking myself, "Am I gonna make some connections that will pay off in the future?" Hell, I used to play Louie Louie at junior high proms and would do it again if the $ were right. I've already long ago sold my soul to Corporate America. It's just a lateral transfer to work for Corporate Music. ------------- Can you tell me where we're headin'? Lincoln County Road or Armageddon. |
Posted By: KoS
Date Posted: December 18 2009 at 21:04
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Money > no money. People who say they wouldn't are the same a****les who used to drive SUV's and now drive Priuses. |
Posted By: jammun
Date Posted: December 18 2009 at 21:27
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This is actually interesting enough that I should elaborate, since it will provide a lesson with regard to the life of a working musician.
First, you'll get union scale for the gig. What this means is that for the hour and a half you are actually performing you'll be paid fairly well; however there is no pay for non-stage time. You'll also probably get some sort of per diem allowance for lodging and meals. So while Miley stays at the five star hotel and eats filet mignon and salmon in a white wine sauce, you'll be staying at the Motel 6 and subsisting on Egg McMuffins.
Miley will be flying from venue to venue, while you'll be on the bus with the other unfortunates who signed up with the tour.
If you consider this an opportunity to get in good with Miley, say sexually, think again. More than likely the only time you'll ever see her is during the performances. She will not be hanging out with the rabble in the band. However, you may be able to land a pancake house waitress, provided she's not looking to move up in the world in terms of who she hangs out with.
If you're really lucky, some manufacturer may offer to give you an instrument, provided you play it every night. To see Miley's guitar player pickin' on a Fender is worth it to them.
When tour is over, well good luck you're on your own. Nice having you around. Maybe see you next go-round. Hence my previous comment as to "Will I make any useful contacts?"
No I am not making this up.
------------- Can you tell me where we're headin'? Lincoln County Road or Armageddon. |
Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: December 18 2009 at 21:54
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Yes. ------------- 
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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: December 18 2009 at 22:51
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With Miley Cyrus? Hell no!
With Selena Gomez? HELL YEAH!
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Posted By: UndercoverBoy
Date Posted: December 18 2009 at 22:55
QFT
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Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: December 18 2009 at 22:57
Fixed  -------------
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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: December 18 2009 at 22:59
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: December 18 2009 at 23:42
I shouldn't comment, but, uh, Mr. Pablo is correct here. |
Posted By: MovingPictures07
Date Posted: December 18 2009 at 23:55
This. ------------- 
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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: December 19 2009 at 04:39
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Selena Gomez. Yeah. Why not? Who is it? |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: December 19 2009 at 04:47
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...how many EggMcMuffins?
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Posted By: Trademark
Date Posted: December 19 2009 at 09:05
| Hey that's American food, you get kippers or bangers and mash on your leg of the tour. |
Posted By: TheCaptain
Date Posted: December 19 2009 at 11:53
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If I could actually play an instrument I would love to sell out. You can still make your own music on the side, but by selling out you'd actually make money. I have very little shame and there are few things I wouldn't do for the right amount of money.
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Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: December 19 2009 at 12:07
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I can't play an instrument. I haven't heard any of her 'music' but even so I get the feeling I could still pick it up pretty quick! So yep I wouldn't be at all bothered about playing the music.
I suspect 'listening to her prattle on' might be more of a challenge. Hopefully, that wouldn't be part of the deal and I wouldn't have to wear some daft mickey mouse outfit or the like?
There would probably be a few cute female dancers on the tour though!  ------------- Help me I'm falling! |
Posted By: jammun
Date Posted: December 19 2009 at 13:51
 ------------- Can you tell me where we're headin'? Lincoln County Road or Armageddon. |
Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: December 19 2009 at 14:06
I would make it part of the contract that we travelled in the same bus - only for their own 'protection' . And I would need them there so they can help with writing new material for the next album - (The Country Prog triple album a slight change in direction!).  ------------- Help me I'm falling! |
Posted By: Trademark
Date Posted: December 19 2009 at 18:23
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Let's add a new twist. Dream Theater called you with the same offer on the same day. Which do you choose? I'm sticking with Miley.
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Posted By: jammun
Date Posted: December 19 2009 at 22:07
------------- Can you tell me where we're headin'? Lincoln County Road or Armageddon. |
Posted By: Noak
Date Posted: December 20 2009 at 17:14
| Yes. Firstly because of the money and secondly because I've never really cared what I play. I have just as much fun playing Prog as Pop or some other generally easy-to-play genre. |
Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: December 20 2009 at 18:41
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Nope. 100% sure 90% of it because I would never sell out! The clincher is because its Miley Cyrus. Someone I respect calls.......maaaaaaaaaaybe Maybe |
Posted By: weetabix
Date Posted: December 20 2009 at 18:51
$= So yes, why not?
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Posted By: topofsm
Date Posted: December 21 2009 at 14:00
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I was going to give a slightly embarrassed yes. But then I saw the results of this poll and all the responses. And then I realize why the hell not? 1. Awesome pay (Which I do need for next year once I get into college)
2. Touring the country (is the rest of the world included? If so then a definite yes)
3. Chick in front of me the whole time.
4. Easy job
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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: December 21 2009 at 16:03
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I'm glad most people are saying yes, because I think I would too. But I assumed that might be because I'm not really a musician and don't take much pride in being one.
But now here's the question: why are we so mad at Phil Collins for doing the same thing? :P ------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
Posted By: MovingPictures07
Date Posted: December 21 2009 at 16:20
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I would say no.
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Posted By: jammun
Date Posted: December 21 2009 at 16:42
------------- Can you tell me where we're headin'? Lincoln County Road or Armageddon. |
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: December 21 2009 at 16:54
All the people who swear they never enjoyed Genesis in the 80's (but won't attend the concerts of Steve Hackett). |
Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: December 21 2009 at 17:20
| Yes. But only if I can sit in a dark corner next to my amp during the performances. |
Posted By: jammun
Date Posted: December 21 2009 at 18:53
------------- Can you tell me where we're headin'? Lincoln County Road or Armageddon. |
Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: December 21 2009 at 19:11
Since I play bass that's about where they'd put me anyway. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Salty_Jon" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Roland113
Date Posted: December 22 2009 at 06:57
Don't forget the profit split from the Christmas Album sales. Despite the issues in the music industry, that would still be a significant pay out. I personally answered yes without hesitation or remorse. In addition, I love eighties and nineties Genesis. ------------- -------someone please tell him to delete this line, he looks like a noob------- I don't have an unnatural obsession with Disney Princesses, I have a fourteen year old daughter and coping mechanisms. |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: December 22 2009 at 07:05
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Not at all. I don't like to be phoned while I'm listening to music, and if I'm in a polite mood I'll say that I have played hardly any guitar since 1991 (which is true), but it is more likely that I would make some insulting remarks as I use to do against any telemarketeer who penetrates my privacy by making a phone call. ------------- 
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: December 22 2009 at 07:55
| Not for Miley, but if it were Kate Bush that phoned... |
Posted By: clarke2001
Date Posted: December 22 2009 at 15:14
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It depends. It depends on a lot of parameters. I might join as a session musician for some crap - be it Miley or Aqua/Barbie Girl or anything else, but it depends on the working conditions. If an artist is doing an absolutely trashy pop and it's actually aware of it, and having fun, then I guess I'd say yes. Not sure I'd be enjoying it though. Performing and nodding your head in the tempo of the music you absolutely despise is tedious, and it leaves a bitter taste in mouth. The key factor is amount of money - would you agree to work on a cemetery, as an undertaker, for a month or two for let's say US$***** (entire your own figure that you consider high) ? Would you do touring with pop artist for a month or two for the same amount? Bite your own teeth, swallow it and make it through. Personaly, I would rather be working on a cemetary...but that's another story. Would you play for a good rock artist with high degree of artistry? Assuming my technical skills are competent enough to cope with the music, I guess I would, in 99% of the cases, but...for example - with all the respect for the late artist - James Brown - is out of the question. I saw him live, and he was great, and his band was great, but I've heard he used to terrorize his musicians. I guess there are a lot of other artists that we like but are obnoxious on rehearsals and tours. I hate tense relations in band, or in any working environment for that matter. The other thing is personal pride. Let's say some eccentric Rockefeller came in out of the blue, pointing a finger at you, offering you to do a solo album, under your own name, but it has to be a crappy reggaeton? For one million dollars? Well I guess I would accept it...and do the best possible album after that. ------------- |
Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: December 26 2009 at 17:38
Maybe? If (insert your favorite singer) calls you and offers you a job in his/her tour and you´d have to think about it... that´d make you a bag full of douches. I´d probably say yes right now, cause I´m pretty much in zero in the music buisness. If that helps me get started I can later always claim that I has just high 24/7 back in the days and didn´t know what I was doing... ------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?" 
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Posted By: FusionKing
Date Posted: December 28 2009 at 13:41
No way in hell would I sell out! My personal concept of evil is the stuff off the charts and talent shows...
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