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Topic: Religious themed threads
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Subject: Religious themed threads
Date Posted: January 08 2010 at 13:07
Can someone move them all to the Just For Fun section, or leave them where they are but make them to not show up in the "Recent posts" area? Please. At this moment all new posts are from one particular thread; since when has this forum become of anything else but music? 
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Posted By: Conor Fynes
Date Posted: January 08 2010 at 13:19
| Last time I checked, they were in the "General Discussion' section, where you can 'talk about anything.' Personally, i think they're in the perfect place, and the Just For Fun section is certainly not a place to be talking about anything with any weight =) |
Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: January 08 2010 at 13:26
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Yep the General Discussion area is for exactly subjects like those. Subjects not related to music. Itīs a sensitive subject but rest assured the threads are being watched by admins and if anyone should step over the acceptable line action will be taken. Itīs one of the beauties of PA IMO. We discuss and are allowed to do so as long as we show respect for each other. Not many other forums are as strictly controlled when it comes to bad language and other unpleasant things. If itīs a subject that bothers you, just look the other way and donīt participate. ------------- http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/" rel="nofollow - Metal Music Archives https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM |
Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: January 08 2010 at 13:28
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I guess the only thing would be to hide the General Discussions topics from the recent posts list just as the topics in "Just for Fun" are. ------------- You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all. |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: January 08 2010 at 13:30
I think the OP was complaining more about the fact that the thread title(s) dominate(s) the most recent posts - and that's something you can't ignore, really. But in fact the main "Atheist" thread is in the right place and an admin is participating (thus obviously monitoring). |
UMUR wrote:Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: January 08 2010 at 14:39
| Guys, no one wants to remove the threads altogether. As long as they remain civil, they can and should stay. The thing is, as both Alex and Pat pointed out, they show in the active threads, and there are times (like yesterday evening) in which you could hardly see anything else. After all, this is a MUSIC forum, and we don't want to run off any prospective new members. |
Posted By: The Doctor
Date Posted: January 08 2010 at 14:47
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Earlier this evening 8 of the 10 most recent posts were in the Atheist thread. Perhaps, it's not such a bad idea to eliminate sections of the forum not dealing with music from the active thread/recent posts list. While I believe it adds a lot to this site to have those threads and they should NOT be taken away, this is a music site and those who come here to glance at the topics being discussed probably shouldn't be deluged with "Do You Believe In God?", "Are You a Satanist?", "Naked Pics of The Doctor" threads. ------------- I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you? |
Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: January 08 2010 at 14:47
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No. You can't put in JFF a topic that doesn't belong there. Modify the "recent posts" function, limit it to the music sections, if possible. ------------- 
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: January 08 2010 at 14:52
No recent posts for that thread, I've noticed. Wonder why? ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: January 08 2010 at 14:55
I think that would be a good idea, I have seen the some of the general discussions fill up the recent posts list, depending on how active a thread is. I think it would be a good idea to exclude general discussions, since it is only one section and is relatively easy to keep track of threads within it. |
Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: January 08 2010 at 14:57
Where do I report that the search function isn't working right? ------------- You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all. |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: January 08 2010 at 15:00
I'd rather have only one thread, and have it be my "Philosophical discussion" thread, because that's that all this is with a better name.  ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: UndercoverBoy
Date Posted: January 08 2010 at 15:02
| I would like a Philosophy thread, because there's more to philosophy than just the existence of God. Although, I probably wouldn't be very helpful in it, because most of the time I'm just a 14-year-old who doesn't know what the hell he's talking about. |
Posted By: jampa17
Date Posted: January 08 2010 at 15:08
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Mike would disagree... he doesn't believe it is a philosophical discussion... he believe is rational explanation and logical preponderance of science... don't know why I end up in this thread... Oh yeah...!!! it was because of the "recent post" function... interesting... ------------- |
Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: January 08 2010 at 15:24
So...About that Naked Doctor thread ...------------- http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/" rel="nofollow - Metal Music Archives https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM |
Posted By: Mr ProgFreak
Date Posted: January 08 2010 at 15:59
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What function are you talking about? I can't find a "Recent Posts" page anywhere. I always go by the active topics lists, which is available in the top nav (it's labeled "New Posts", but used to be "Active Topics"): http://www.progarchives.com/forum/active_topics.asp - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/active_topics.asp There aren't really many threads on the subject (two polls plus the one about evolution and Teo's thread) ... so I didn't even notice any problem, the entire religious discussion today took place in one thread only. BTW: I would agree that the general discussions/topics should be left out of the list you're talking about. ------------- https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike" rel="nofollow - https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike |
Posted By: The Doctor
Date Posted: January 08 2010 at 16:04
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Mike. Go to the forum home page. Scroll all the way down to the bottom. It shows the last ten threads in which there were posts. ------------- I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you? |
Posted By: Mr ProgFreak
Date Posted: January 08 2010 at 16:08
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^ why would anyone use this list to find out what's been going on? The active topics page is not limited to ten threads and neatly grouped into categories in the correct sequence.
------------- https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike" rel="nofollow - https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike |
Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: January 08 2010 at 16:10
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As long as it doesn't get abusive, I don't think its a problem. ------------- 
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: January 08 2010 at 16:11
There are plenty of people who don't use it. I'm a 100% "active topics" guy myself, nevertheless: let's treat the "recent topics" like it matters. And if it's not about "using it to see what's going on", it's then about what's showing up on the front page of a forum. -------------
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Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: January 08 2010 at 16:18
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I use the recent topics. I've never used this other function you speak of. I'm not even sure I believe it exists. ------------- You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all. |
Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: January 08 2010 at 16:19
Look in the top right corner, it should say New Posts. Click it. |
Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: January 08 2010 at 16:25
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Your pointless diversions will not deter me. My recent posts are right here in front of my eyes where I like them. ------------- You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all. |
Posted By: The Doctor
Date Posted: January 08 2010 at 16:31
Me too. I have never seen it. Therefore, it does not exist.  ------------- I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you? |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: January 08 2010 at 17:51
This is not directed against religious topics, but against threads taking over the "Recent posts" feature. My thanks go to those who understood this  I do use the Active Topics feature, but after I use it once and read everything that has been posted for the last day, I don't need to use it again in order to see what are the last two or three posts since the last five minutes. Some good suggestions have been made, thank you! |
Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: January 12 2010 at 23:16
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I don't see it taking over Recent Posts as a problem. If that's what people want to talk about, the Recent Posts will reflect that, and there are plenty of other ways to see what new things have been posted. I don't even use Active Topics, I refresh and scroll, old school style. ------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: January 13 2010 at 14:24
I'd prefer "Naked Pics of The Doctor's Girlfriend" thread.  ------------- "Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent." Charles Bukowski |
Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: January 13 2010 at 14:29
Imaginary women turn you on? ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: MovingPictures07
Date Posted: January 13 2010 at 14:45
Owned, haha. ------------- 
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Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: January 13 2010 at 14:59
I do too.  However I do understand that people do want to see music discussions on a music site. |
Posted By: clarke2001
Date Posted: January 14 2010 at 02:36
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My impression is - this forum engine should be more customizable. That is, go to your control panel and (un)check anything you want - displaying of avatars, signatures, special characters, YouTube videos, showing of last posts, showing only some sections etc. etc. etc. I don't know if it's easy to implement it or not - ProgArchives have WebWizForums 9.53 under the hood, and there are some interesting options, such are importing members' profiles from another forum, advanced search options, skin confuguration etc. ------------- |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: January 14 2010 at 12:01
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Music discussions are interesting only to a point.... Once you have seen most of them, only real-life issues can really hold my interest in the forum. Once in a while I enter a music discussion but that happens less and less every week..... Besides, talking about real things tends to be more interesting to me these days.. or reading about them (like in the atheist thread).
This is a music forum but as forums go, it would die without something other than music... ------------- 
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Posted By: Marty McFly
Date Posted: January 16 2010 at 14:13
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The problem is that we have now about how, 5, or even more religion-themed threads. But we can't move them in one, because the structure (reply-reply-reply) would broke apart. And when I try to search something with search function, I always end up with no results. What a pity. ------------- There's a point where "avant-garde" and "experimental" becomes "terrible" and "pointless," -Andyman1125 on Lulu  Even my |
Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: January 16 2010 at 16:03
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Would it help if there were two "recent posts" lists. One for music topics and one for non-music?
I cannot do this myself (of course!), but if there is a strong demand for it, I'm sure mailto:M@x - M@x would be listening.
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: January 16 2010 at 16:17
| ^ Great idea! |
Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: January 16 2010 at 17:55
I second that. |
Posted By: KoS
Date Posted: January 16 2010 at 18:09
Or make a Politics and Religion section that doesn't show on "recent posts" like the JFF. |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: January 16 2010 at 18:48
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"New Posts" should show exactly what it does say: "New Posts". if only topics not relating to music appear there then it simply means no post on topics related to music have been posted lately. where is your problem with that? I think it should remain exactly the way it is; you can always go to a certain sub-forum and see the new topics there
-------------  A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: January 16 2010 at 18:59
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^ The New Posts feature is available only on the Forum Home. My problem with is that sometimes the post rate in the religious threads is so high that I can't follow the music-related posts in New Posts. It's the same reason for which the Just For Fun section is prohibited in the New Posts feature. By your logic, we should put Just For Fun in the New Posts, because those posts are new posts too. |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: January 16 2010 at 20:56
I wouldn't mind at all. as already said, if I want the latest posts on music related topics I can always go to the sub-forum. so where is the problerm? ------------- A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: January 16 2010 at 20:58
| ^ I just responded, read again please. |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: January 16 2010 at 21:14
I still don't see where your problem is. the "New Posts" button lists new posts by sub-forum, and music related sub-forums come first. and you can set for how many hours back you want to see the new posts. I never have any problems with posts from other sub-forums; they ALWAYS appear behind the music-related topics. so where is your problem? ------------- A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: January 16 2010 at 21:19
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The problem is that the New Posts feature isn't useful for short periods, like every few minutes. For keeping up with the replies posted in REAL TIME, the Recent Posts feature is much more useful - unless it's flooded by irrelevant posts. I too use the New Posts when I come back on the forum after a longer period (a few hours), but after checking out the posts that have been made during this longer period, I can't use it any more; it simply isn't made for real time "action". |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: January 16 2010 at 21:37
sorry, but I don't see why not. I use it for real time action all the time, without having any problems. as already said, you can set the temporal "bandwidth" for new posts. nothing will escape you if you use that feature; there is absolutely no need to change anything ------------- A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: January 17 2010 at 04:13
It's 10:00 GMT at the moment - only 1 of the 10 posts on Active Topics appears under the "Last 15 Minutes" New Post - I have to go back to "Last 2 Hours" to see the other 9 posts. When the forum is list dead (158 active users but only 20 members online) neither really show what the latest "hot topic" is/was. ------------- What? |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: January 17 2010 at 08:42
No, you can't set anything more flexible than "last fifteen minutes", "last thirty minutes", etc. That's not useful in the evening, for example, when many people are in and posts flow with a rate of 2 to 5 posts per minute (let's say). |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: January 17 2010 at 08:45
I'm not sure if I understand. Do you mean that at some moments the post rate is very low and what I ask for is not necessary? If so, that's true, but my issue is with the "rush hour" moments. |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: January 17 2010 at 09:58
but where is the problem with that`? even if many posts in a certain thread you are interested happened, youj can pick up from the last post you jhave read easily. and the suggested changes won't help that "problem" a bit ------------- A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: January 17 2010 at 10:23
That would be simple, but I like to keep up with all the active threads while I'm online, not only the ones that are of particular interest for me. |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: January 17 2010 at 11:04
even then there is no problem at all. it is quite easy to keep up with any active threads the way it is now. and non-musical topics definitely do not get on top of musical ones. musical topics are always being listed first. it isi absolutely no problem to follow ALL active threads if you really want to. I don't understand where your problem is ------------- A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: January 17 2010 at 11:17
| The problem is that you simply don't want to believe me. IT IS difficult to follow the interesting discussions in real time at the rush hour moments. This is why the just for fun threads were excluded from the Recent Posts feature, and this is also why some thread with similar development should, too. I wouldn't be insisting for no reason. And how can you say that non-musical topics "definitely do not get on top of musical ones", when I said explicitly in my opening post that at the moment I was posting, ALL Recent Topics came from one particular religion thread? That's absurd. |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: January 17 2010 at 11:59
if all recent topics came from relligious threads it just means there have been no posts to other topics, quite simple. if there had been the musical topics would again be on top; it is the way this is organised. but I don't understand why you don't simply use the "New Posts" feature; it is absolutely sufficient for me. you don't miss any new posts then. it is a much better way to follow all activities. I always use "New Posts" and nothing else to keep informed about anything which has been going on ------------- A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: January 17 2010 at 12:08
See, I've highlighted the problem. You're a completely different forum user than I am. No matter what arguments I might make, they won't make any sense for you because they don't fit with your experience of the forum. For the record, my experience of the forum is different than that of yours. Let's leave it like that. |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: January 17 2010 at 12:13
sorry, but I don't understand what you believe you are missing if you look for new posts my way. you don't miss ANYTHING my way. ------------- A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: January 17 2010 at 13:18
But why would the changes that he wants affect you in any way whatsoever? Why can't he get what he wants and you continue with "new posts"? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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