Well, it's been fun, but I guess I'm done here
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Topic: Well, it's been fun, but I guess I'm done here
Posted By: whydontyoueatcarrots
Subject: Well, it's been fun, but I guess I'm done here
Date Posted: January 25 2010 at 18:49
It's been a long run, obviously. It's not like I really got to know anybody or really contributed anything meaningful, so who cares? I don't, you don't, that's fine.
I know "screw you guys, I'm goin' home" threads are juvenile, but this is absurd, in the short period of time I've been here I've been censored twice:
- I started a thread discussing mental ill musicians. Not in any degrading sort of way, in fact to the contrary, all the musicians I listed I had a tremendous amount of respect for. Nor was I implying mental illness creates fantastic musicians. It was just a discussion. It was shut down, aparently some people flagged it because, "It might be considered insensitive." 
- Recently, in the "Black Musicians" thread, which I frankly though was absurd. I posted an image which I will link to, feel free to look at it if you are feeling BRAVE and have a strong stomach:
http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/6007/sw50sw8sw578.gif - http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/6007/sw50sw8sw578.gif
If you don't feel like clicking, it's a animated gif from Wonder Showzen. It's a black child yelling, "THAT'S RACIST!" It was mostly a joke, even though I think the thread could have been considered by some to be racist, which I find ironic. Why this image was "pending approval" from mods is beyond me.
So, my question: Who mods this place? Tipper Gore? I know this thread will be deleted before anyone can see it, but LIGHTEN UP PEOPLE!!!!! I'm not saying let "teh intarwebz" take over: Porn, profanity, etc. But I don't want to participate in a forum where G rated might be considered offensive. How progressive of you.
I'll definitely continue to use this site, as it is awesome, but the forums... I'm done. Thank you all for making me feel less insane knowing there are more people out there who like prog, but...
Don't annoy us further! We have our work to do Just think about the average What use have they for you? Another toy will help destroy The elder race of man Forget about your silly whim It doesn't fit the Plan!
OK OK, I'm leaving. Peace.
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Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: January 25 2010 at 18:53
I bet you reply to this thread
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Posted By: whydontyoueatcarrots
Date Posted: January 25 2010 at 18:55
I bet I don't!

I'm actually surprised I got a chance.
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Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: January 25 2010 at 18:58
Come on bro- just give the mods another chance- I'm sure there was a or lack of communication or something.
If not, hate to say it, but your loss.
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Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: January 25 2010 at 19:00
I don't think it is a good reason to quit the forums for. You win some,
you lose some, if the mods close/delete something, it is just in the
best interest of the entire forum, but they aren't infallible. I guess
what I'm saying is, There is no use in crying over spilt milk. 
Personally, I don't want you to leave.
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Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: January 25 2010 at 19:01
It'd be sad to see you go, but if you feel like you have to then it's your decision, of course.
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Posted By: whydontyoueatcarrots
Date Posted: January 25 2010 at 19:04
I appreciate the comments, you guys seem like an awesome group of folks (obviously with awesome taste in music). But I don't think I could have a lot of fun here if I have to constantly think "Would this offend anybody?" Especially when I am being what would be widely regarded as non-offensive. So though I am continuing to contribute to this thread, that's pretty much it for me in the forum realm of things.
But once again, I will continue to enjoy the rest of the site, which is beyond superb!
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Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: January 25 2010 at 19:06
Just start some Dream Theater threads- those are always well received.
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Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: January 25 2010 at 19:07
I don't want you to leave either
Just come to http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=64366&PID=3528754#3528754 - the SR for a while...
Just remember, even though 99% of the site might find something to not be offensive at all, we shouldn't risk offending the 1% who will. I'm not saying you're in the wrong, but keep that in mind.
And don't leave. 
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Posted By: Alberto Muņoz
Date Posted: January 25 2010 at 19:08
Don't worry whydont... this happens when forums are heavily moderate, but i think that this is not to stop you, so i think that you continues and take a sense of irony.
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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: January 25 2010 at 19:57
Oh God, this is the worst type of post on the internet. Yes, I think it was excessive to lock the mentally ill musicians thread since nobody had actually said anything terrible yet (even if it was a bit insensitive for you imply that mental illness is linked with creative music), but if you can't stand the occasional run-in with a mod over something you say, just leave. Being dramatic and telling everyone that you're leaving so you can garner sympathy from people doesn't help anybody. Also, just posting an ironic .gif is a pretty terrible post that doesn't contribute to the discussion in any way. Of course, lots of other people make worthless posts and they're not deleted for the sake of readability, but that's not the point! ;-)
And nice job on preemptively accusing the mods of censoring this thread because you're speaking truth to power, man. It's quite endearing.
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Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: January 25 2010 at 20:08

Get over yourself man. Some things the admins like, some things they don't. They can't be right on absolutely everything, but then again they do try their damned hardest and we all appreciate it. I'd like to see you run a forum?
As for the Black Musicians thread I created: the picture that is pending approval would have offended me, because it's just not necessary. No, really, it isn't. And it would have span the thread into a big ol' racism discussion, and NOBODY wants that. So just think about your post a second.
And yeah. See ya. Your loss entirely.
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Arnold Schoenberg
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Posted By: zappaholic
Date Posted: January 25 2010 at 20:10
"Well.... bye."
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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: January 25 2010 at 20:12
The Pessimist wrote:
I'd like to see you run a forum?
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Eh, being a moderator really isn't that hard. You just have to care about the forum. ;-)
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: January 25 2010 at 20:15
whydontyoueatcarrots wrote:
But I don't think I could have a lot of fun here if I have to constantly think "Would this offend anybody?"
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hell I have to think that almost every day around here
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Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: January 25 2010 at 20:21
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: January 25 2010 at 20:33
Threatening to leave?
Hey now you're a real member of the site! 
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: January 25 2010 at 20:34
Who the hell were you in the first place??? 
 (really...)
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Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: January 25 2010 at 20:53
Ummm, ok, later man.
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Posted By: whydontyoueatcarrots
Date Posted: January 25 2010 at 22:08
zappaholic wrote:
"Well.... bye."
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Awesome.
I have to see, I'm glad this thread finally took a turn for the worse and everyone started getting offended. All I'm saying is, lighten up folks, you'll have more fun.
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Posted By: King Crimson776
Date Posted: January 25 2010 at 23:09
Dude, I used to get censored all the time... I just posted afterwards going... "wow, they actually censored me saying, (rephrased version of what I said at first)... now that's just silly." :P
Yeah I wish we could say graphic, offensive things to describe how much The Mars Volta sucks too, but this site is simply too "constructive" for that. This ain't some metal forum. We're here to discuss the music and all that...
Anyway man, see you around. After you of course tell us that your post wasn't serious in the first place and you just wanted a reaction so now you'll continue to post some more.
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: January 25 2010 at 23:39
whydontyoueatcarrots wrote:
I'm glad this thread finally took a turn for the worse and everyone started getting offended. All I'm saying is, lighten up folks, you'll have more fun.
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see, you had me up till this-- methinks doth protest too much 
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Posted By: weetabix
Date Posted: January 26 2010 at 00:24
Politically correct notions of racism are mentally childish and simplistic.
Tell you the truth.... I feel right bored here myself w/ the Whose the best guitarist, and who is the best drummer, 13yr old fluff ... wait up I coming too....
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Posted By: mystic fred
Date Posted: January 26 2010 at 01:10
When posting or creating threads on an International website it is obvious one should use their common sense, you never know who is checking the site and could take legal action against improper posts - picking subjects such as mental illness, especially naming certain people, or racism, is asking for trouble....if i was a mod i would have sent warnings
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Posted By: Marty McFly
Date Posted: January 26 2010 at 03:35
What's not racism, but common reality for me may not be appropriate for let's say more multi-racial countries like UK, or USA. I got censored for this once, but I learned what I did wrong.
In fact nothing in criteria of my country. And it's not barbaric country you know, we're pretty civilized ;-) But this is not some Czech pub, where I'm with friends, feel to offend hip-hop music as much as I want, because I know my pals won't complain. Otherwise, they'll support me. But we're INTER-NATIONAL here. Therefore, I completely understand mods. There are simply some topics that are HOT. And what's hot may overgrow to form FLAME. For example WAR. And so we should agree them. How long I'm here, almost a year ? And I've been censored once. And even then I somehow knew that the mod understood me a little bit, but we both knew that it's dangerous to let these things on forums.
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Posted By: mystic fred
Date Posted: January 26 2010 at 04:51
weetabix wrote:
Politically correct notions of racism are mentally childish and simplistic.
Tell you the truth.... I feel right bored here myself w/ the Whose the best guitarist, and who is the best drummer, 13yr old fluff ... wait up I coming too.... |
can you try and think of some new threads, then..? 
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Posted By: weetabix
Date Posted: January 26 2010 at 05:31
OK..... How about if you ruled the bloody world how would you do it? What laws that sort of thing.
And also what are everyones fav lines from songs?For instance "Clowns to the left of me Jokers to the Right here I am stuck in the middle w/ you" Steelers Wheel.... Or The Winter Time is Coming the windows are filled w/ frost,, I tried to tell everybody but I could not get across...... Dylan,,.... But Ta Ta I have a plane to catch.
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Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: January 26 2010 at 10:08
The Drama Queens are out in force, it seems. I liked the purple eye shadow better.
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: January 26 2010 at 10:16
OK OK, make of it what you will, but time for this thread to close I think.
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