Which over 20 minute song is your favourite?
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Topic: Which over 20 minute song is your favourite?
Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Subject: Which over 20 minute song is your favourite?
Date Posted: April 30 2010 at 13:56
These are just the first ones that came to mind. No complaining over missed ones please.
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Posted By: Bonnek
Date Posted: April 30 2010 at 14:00
Well I just wanted to start complaining about the absence of VDGG's Plague of Lighthousekeepers  So I'll have to go with Echoes
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Posted By: Shevrzl
Date Posted: April 30 2010 at 14:11
Have to go with CTTE, the first epic that i went through without looking how long it would take to end.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 30 2010 at 14:19
Though I'd kind of like to complain about the absence of Lindh's "Musik Fran en Storstad", I'll choose the "Atom Heart Mother" suite.
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Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: April 30 2010 at 14:20
Bonnek wrote:
Well I just wanted to start complaining about the absence of VDGG's Plague of Lighthousekeepers  So I'll have to go with Echoes
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If that means Van Der Graaf Generator, I've been thinking of checking them out for a while. Don't see why I haven't yet. These are all songs I've heard. I know I forgot at least some, but they just haven't come to mind.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 30 2010 at 14:24
DT-PT wrote:
Bonnek wrote:
Well I just wanted to start complaining about the absence of VDGG's Plague of Lighthousekeepers  So I'll have to go with Echoes
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If that means Van Der Graaf Generator, I've been thinking of checking them out for a while. Don't see why I haven't yet. These are all songs I've heard. I know I forgot at least some, but they just haven't come to mind. |
It really is essential listening, imo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlBuSZMnxo4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlBuSZMnxo4
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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: April 30 2010 at 14:25
Thick as a Brick, with Echoes and Gates not too far behind.
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Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: April 30 2010 at 14:32
Thanks for the link!  I'm listening right now and it's really something.
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Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: April 30 2010 at 14:33
Ritual from the available choices, followed by Revealing Science, Gates and finally CttE.
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Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: April 30 2010 at 14:37
2112, Shine On, Echoes, Supper's Ready, or Revealing Science. Probably Echoes.
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Posted By: petrica
Date Posted: April 30 2010 at 14:38
Lots of good songs here. I would say Yes - Gates Of Delirium but VdGG-Plague of Lighthouse keepers is one of my favorites.
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Posted By: bsms810
Date Posted: April 30 2010 at 15:05
Suppers ready followed by TaaB
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Posted By: Wolf Spider
Date Posted: April 30 2010 at 15:20
Crazy Diamond
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Posted By: UndercoverBoy
Date Posted: April 30 2010 at 15:21
"The Gates of Delirium." 22 minutes long and not a note out of place.
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Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: April 30 2010 at 15:26
Echoes.
It's just f*****g brilliant played loud in the dark.
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Posted By: kerry5
Date Posted: April 30 2010 at 15:33
Definitely Supper's Ready!
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Posted By: Sckxyss
Date Posted: April 30 2010 at 15:38
I'll go with Close to the Edge...
even thought it's not over 20 minutes .
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Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: April 30 2010 at 15:43
Sckxyss wrote:
I'll go with Close to the Edge...
even thought it's not over 20 minutes .
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Thats true, but I just felt it needed to be added. And it's pretty close. 
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Posted By: Tsevir Leirbag
Date Posted: April 30 2010 at 15:44
Gates of Delirium, just over Atom Heart Mother and Supper's Ready
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Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: April 30 2010 at 15:44
Sckxyss wrote:
I'll go with Close to the Edge...
even thought it's not over 20 minutes .
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 I wanted to be the first to point that out!
Gates of Delirium gets my vote from that list.
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: April 30 2010 at 15:51
"The Revealing Science of God."
Doesn't get any better than that.
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: April 30 2010 at 15:59
A lot of good ones.....I gave some love to Octavarium
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Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: April 30 2010 at 16:05
Catcher10 wrote:
A lot of good ones.....I gave some love to Octavarium |
I was wondering when someone would. Thats my third favourite on this list, next to A Change Of Seasons and Close to the Edge.
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: April 30 2010 at 16:09
Suppers Ready
But half of these arent 20 minute epics, they're either shorter or a collection of rlated but distinctly different seperate tracks.
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Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: April 30 2010 at 16:13
sleeper wrote:
Suppers Ready
But half of these arent 20 minute epics, they're either shorter or a collection of rlated but distinctly different seperate tracks. |
The shorter ones are ones that are close enough and I felt deserved a spot.
And some are seperate tracks, but one song. Some are arguable, but if I felt it existed more as a single song, then I put it down as one.
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Posted By: Morningrise
Date Posted: April 30 2010 at 16:13
Posted By: tarkus1980
Date Posted: April 30 2010 at 16:41
Gates of Delirium is the greatest piece ever written in rock music, art-rock or not, and therefore it's the winner.
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: April 30 2010 at 16:48
sleeper wrote:
Suppers Ready
But half of these arent 20 minute epics, they're either shorter or a collection of rlated but distinctly different seperate tracks. |
Exactly.....That's why I did not pick SDOIT.....since it is a group of songs strung together.
But I'll play along....... 
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Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: April 30 2010 at 16:50
Catcher10 wrote:
sleeper wrote:
Suppers Ready
But half of these arent 20 minute epics, they're either shorter or a collection of rlated but distinctly different seperate tracks. |
Exactly.....That's why I did not pick SDOIT.....since it is a group of songs strung together.
But I'll play along.......  |
SDoIT is one song, it's just different movements.
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Posted By: WalterDigsTunes
Date Posted: April 30 2010 at 17:01
Gates of Delirium: All hail Moraz!!
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Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: April 30 2010 at 17:34
Suppers Ready.
Then Echoes/Shine on. Coin flip between those two.
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Posted By: The Wrinkler
Date Posted: April 30 2010 at 17:54
Suppers Ready. What is for supper anyways? They never told us
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Posted By: splyu
Date Posted: April 30 2010 at 18:25
Mike Oldfield - Ommadawn (either part)
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Posted By: Johnnytuba
Date Posted: April 30 2010 at 19:00
Gates of Delirium, all day, every day.
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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: April 30 2010 at 19:08
Tough call. Since a Passion Play is not listed, I'll vote for 2112, but it pains me to vote against Echoes and some of the tracks from Topographic Oceans.
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Posted By: otto pankrock
Date Posted: April 30 2010 at 19:24
Echoes. Then Gates. Close to the Edge
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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: April 30 2010 at 23:38
I don't think I would call any of those my favourite, but I picked Atom Heart Mother because it's so damn unbelievably non-Floydianly amazing. Not to say PF aren't good, but this track doesn't even sound like anything else they've touched
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: April 30 2010 at 23:46
Supper's Ready
Also Illusions on a Double Dimple not mentioned in the list.
Iván
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Posted By: Synchestra
Date Posted: May 01 2010 at 00:03
Suppers ready. I was guna suggest some others that were left out like 'Harvest of Souls' by IQ, or 'Stardust We Are' by The Flower Kings... But what would be the point when Suppers Ready beats them anyway?
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: May 01 2010 at 00:18
HTCF wrote:
I don't think I would call any of those my favourite, but I picked Atom Heart Mother because it's so damn unbelievably non-Floydianly amazing. Not to say PF aren't good, but this track doesn't even sound like anything else they've touched |
That's largely thanks to Ron Geesin, of course (John Aldiss, who Geesin brought in to work on it, did great work for it too). I've read that Pink Floyd members weren't too happy with what Geesin had done with it or their performance on it. I think of it as more of a Geesin work than a Pink Floyd work. Great arrangements and production.
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Posted By: ten years after
Date Posted: May 01 2010 at 02:51
DT-PT wrote:
sleeper wrote:
Suppers Ready
But half of these arent 20 minute epics, they're either shorter or a collection of rlated but distinctly different seperate tracks. |
The shorter ones are ones that are close enough and I felt deserved a spot.
And some are seperate tracks, but one song. Some are arguable, but if I felt it existed more as a single song, then I put it down as one. |
I think this is perfectly acceptable, I would add Pictures at an Exhibition to the list on this basis.
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: May 01 2010 at 03:36
The absence of "A Plague Of Lighthouse Keepers"by VdGG has already been mentioned. And many people seem to forget VdGG have another 20 minute epic, "Meurglys III - The Songwriters Guild". I also miss Clearlight's "Clearlight Symphony" and Mother Gong's "Wassilissa". And how about Magma's"Mekanik Destruktiw Kommandöh" or "Köhntark"? Or Caravan's "Nine Feet Underground"? Just to throw in a few other good candidates. If these had been included it would have been a tough choice for me; as it is I'll go with "Relayer"
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: May 01 2010 at 03:47
DT-PT wrote:
Catcher10 wrote:
sleeper wrote:
Suppers Ready
But half of these arent 20 minute epics, they're either shorter or a collection of rlated but distinctly different seperate tracks. |
Exactly.....That's why I did not pick SDOIT.....since it is a group of songs strung together.
But I'll play along.......  |
SDoIT is one song, it's just different movements. |
More of a concept album than a single track, each song is distinctly different.
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: May 01 2010 at 03:58
sleeper wrote:
DT-PT wrote:
Catcher10 wrote:
sleeper wrote:
Suppers Ready
But half of these arent 20 minute epics, they're either shorter or a collection of rlated but distinctly different seperate tracks. |
Exactly.....That's why I did not pick SDOIT.....since it is a group of songs strung together.
But I'll play along.......  |
SDoIT is one song, it's just different movements. |
More of a concept album than a single track, each song is distinctly different. |
Oh, come on, that is the case with many epics. The famous "Supper's Ready", for example. And if you read the Genesis book by Armando Gallo you will find out that indeed it was a collection of different songs at first, which were just thrown together.
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: May 01 2010 at 04:39
Supper's Ready. followed closely by five or six others. I don't count Close to the Edge here because its 18 minutes.
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Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: May 01 2010 at 05:30
My favorites are Plague of lighthouse keepers and Nine feet underground, but since ither is here i go with the epic The Revealing Science Of God.
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Posted By: friso
Date Posted: May 01 2010 at 05:51
Posted By: OT Räihälä
Date Posted: May 01 2010 at 06:47
As Close To The Edge is listed, despite it being just over 18 minutes, I'd like to pick up Harmonium's Historie sans paroles, which is a very fine work (albeit only 17 minutes).
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Posted By: RoeDent
Date Posted: May 01 2010 at 07:03
Tough choice. Mulling over some of the modern masterpieces in the list. In the end, I went for A Change of Seasons, as that's my favourite epic at the moment. If you'd asked me 2 years ago, I probably would've voted for Shine On.
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Posted By: idiotPrayer
Date Posted: May 01 2010 at 10:49
meshuggah - i ptree - voyage and the sky moves sideways pink floyd - echoes bass communion - chiaroscuro
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Posted By: idiotPrayer
Date Posted: May 01 2010 at 10:50
how could i forget: meshuggah - catch 33. what a masterpiece
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Posted By: Nipsey88
Date Posted: May 01 2010 at 15:38
A slew of fine candidates to be sure...
But if its included, its always Echoes for me.
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Posted By: Ronnie Pilgrim
Date Posted: May 02 2010 at 21:43
Isn't this just the same poll as http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=67027 - Best side-long epic ?
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Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: May 02 2010 at 21:47
Ronnie Pilgrim wrote:
Isn't this just the same poll as http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=67027 - Best side-long epic ? |
This one was made before that. Also, that is 1969-1975 only as modern discs don't have "sides." This has modern era too. 
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Posted By: antonyus
Date Posted: May 03 2010 at 08:15
my vote goes to...close to the edge :)
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Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: May 03 2010 at 08:36
many awesome tracks here....but ... as always....
Really don't mind if you sit this one out
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Posted By: Alberto Muñoz
Date Posted: May 03 2010 at 09:22
TAAB
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Posted By: jampa17
Date Posted: May 03 2010 at 09:26
Eh... A Mind Besides itself lasts 19 minutes... not 20...
and my vote is for A Change of Seasons... a wonderful perfect song...
Though I would hope that Dogs could last more than 20 minutes to vote for it...
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: May 03 2010 at 11:16
1. Suppers Ready
2. Karn Evil 9
3. Gates Of Delirium
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Posted By: Rabid
Date Posted: May 03 2010 at 16:04
The Wrinkler wrote:
Suppers Ready. What is for supper anyways? They never told us  |
Lamb chops.
Oh.....Steppenwolfs 'the Pusher' surely deserves a mention.
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Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: May 03 2010 at 19:01
jampa17 wrote:
Eh... A Mind Besides itself lasts 19 minutes... not 20... |
Nope. A Mind Beside Itself lasts 20:24.
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Posted By: Bitterblogger
Date Posted: May 03 2010 at 23:17
Close To The Edge just beats out Echoes--barely. Honorable mention to Revealing and Thick.
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Posted By: uduwudu
Date Posted: May 04 2010 at 04:24
Shame Hemispheres is not here (with it's 10 min prelude.) 2112doesn't quite strertch to 20 minutes but I take the point. Shame Awaken is sucjh a short song. Throw in some more carefully artiulated prog-chestration and it'd qualify (on physical terms.) It's already exceeded in content...
So it's Gates for me. Interesting - and fun to watch the Battle Of Close to The Supper. 
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Posted By: Oliverum
Date Posted: May 04 2010 at 05:00
Octavarium is simply epic.
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Posted By: Tuonela
Date Posted: May 04 2010 at 07:24
Gates of Delirium, followed closely by CttE and Supper...
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Posted By: Proggy Pogo
Date Posted: May 04 2010 at 07:37
Wow, tough one ! So many great ones. I've voted for the one I'm most into at the moment, which is DT's "In The Presence of Enemies", but the vote could easily have gone to Shine On You Crazy Diamond, Echoes or Octavarium. Gates of Dilerium is brilliant too.
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Posted By: The-time-is-now
Date Posted: May 04 2010 at 14:49
Close to the edge, but the tracks from Tales are excellent, too. Transtlantic makes good long songs, by the way.
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Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: May 04 2010 at 15:56
Proggy Pogo wrote:
Wow, tough one ! So many great ones. I've voted for the one I'm most into at the moment, which is DT's "In The Presence of Enemies", but the vote could easily have gone to Shine On You Crazy Diamond, Echoes or Octavarium. Gates of Dilerium is brilliant too. |
I was worried no one was gonna give ItPoE any respect. Aha, it may be cheesy, but musically it's great.
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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: May 09 2010 at 08:34
Best ever is VDGG's Plague of Lighthousekeepers
But it aint there so SUPPERS READY a masterpeice of prog!!!!
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Posted By: Falx
Date Posted: May 10 2010 at 01:26
I'd have to go with Supper's Ready (the one song that really turned me onto Genesis), but if I could choose any song it'd be "A Gadarai Megszállott" by After Crying.
As for what's for supper, my guess is it's a reference to "the last supper", given the obvious religious symbolism in the song - "a personal journey which ends up walking through scenes from Revelations in the Bible....I'll leave it at that." in Peter Gabriel's words.
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Posted By: cesar polo
Date Posted: May 10 2010 at 12:30
My vote goes to "Supper's ready", but "Echoes", "Atom Earth Mother" or "Close to the edge" are at the same level (maximum level ) for me.
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Posted By: Anthony
Date Posted: May 11 2010 at 18:17
GoD
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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: May 11 2010 at 19:24
Wow, this is tough... Octavarium, Supper's Ready, Close to the Edge, Thick as a Brick, and all 4 of the Transatlantic epics...
It's got to be one of the TA ones, but which one??? I guess I'll go with Stranger in Your Soul. I've seen it live twice now, and both times it has blown me away.
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Posted By: refugee
Date Posted: May 12 2010 at 10:19
AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:
Best ever is VDGG's Plague of Lighthousekeepers
But it aint there so SUPPERS READY a masterpeice of prog!!!! |
This. 
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Posted By: Progist
Date Posted: May 12 2010 at 11:18
I also love Super's Ready, but not quite as much as I love Echoes! So I went for Echoes
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Posted By: Anirml
Date Posted: May 13 2010 at 16:12
Well, Close to the Edge is my all time favorite song with Supper's Ready and Soft Machine's 6 first songs from their first album (one long epic imo), right after.
Some other greats are, Lizards, Plague of Lighthousekeepers, Awaken, Gates of Delirium, Ritual, The Revealing Science Of God, Storm (GY!BE), Sleep (GY!BE), Birdman (McDonald and Giles), In Held 'Twas in I
Still have to hear Thick as a Brick (the whole album)
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Posted By: ProgressiveAttic
Date Posted: May 13 2010 at 16:41
richardh wrote:
1. Suppers Ready
2. Karn Evil 9
3. Gates Of Delirium |
Finally some love for ELP!!!! what about Tarkus?
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Posted By: rod65
Date Posted: May 18 2010 at 13:50
I had to go with "Supper's Ready" after some seriou sagoniziong among a few other contenders. I might also suggest IQ's "Harvest of Souls" or, though it is integrally tied tot he rock concept album that it concludes, IQ's "The Narrow Margin," which squeaks in at exactly 20:00.
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Posted By: CinemaZebra
Date Posted: May 18 2010 at 19:32
I'd say CTTE but it's not over twenty minutes. And now it's dominating the poll...great. Anyway, I voted for Thick as a Brick.
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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: May 19 2010 at 04:13
I went for Echoes but only after a big struggle with Atom Heart Mother. However the poll is missing Renaissance's Ashes are Burning and Sheherazade (live versions) and Caravan's Nine Feet Underground.
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Posted By: Kashmir75
Date Posted: May 19 2010 at 05:36
The Sky Moves Sideways.
Followed by Octavarium and A Change of Seasons.
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