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Forum Name: Suggest New Bands and Artists
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Topic: Laurie AndersonPosted By: EatThatPhonebook
Subject: Laurie Anderson
Date Posted: May 26 2010 at 13:30
I really think she should be added, perhaps filed under Crossover Prog, or at least Prog Related.
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Replies: Posted By: ClemofNazareth
Date Posted: May 26 2010 at 14:33
I agree she should be here, but this has been raised before with no resolution. Perhaps the third time is the charm. Certainly attitudes have changed over the past few years compared to some of the arguments against including her in previous threads:
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: May 26 2010 at 14:33
I wanted Laurie Anderson in ( I did propose it to the Prog Related team long ago, but don't know how she's fit that categories parameters now as they changed). I think she was considered for Crossover, but can't remember the developments.
We had a couple of lengthy discussions on her before (for reference purposes):
Poll: forum_posts.asp?TID=50458&KW=Laurie+Anderson - Does - Laurie Anderson belong in the archives?
Forum: forum_topics.asp?FID=1 - Suggest New Bands and Artists
Topic: forum_posts.asp?TID=25680&KW=Laurie+Anderson - - Laurie Anderson
Forum: forum_topics.asp?FID=1 - Suggest New Bands and Artists
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: May 26 2010 at 14:34
Ha-ha, posted those topics in the same minute (I always seem to come in last when that happens).
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Posted By: ClemofNazareth
Date Posted: May 26 2010 at 14:36
Great minds think alike (and use Forum Search before posting)
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: May 26 2010 at 17:27
I think she's worthy here somewhere. Particularly for Life On A String.
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Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: May 26 2010 at 17:40
avant-garde pop.
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: May 26 2010 at 17:51
lucas wrote:
avant-garde pop.
Seems more avant prog to me. And remember, if it's in my collection it is probably prog. Come on man, she's had freaking Adrian Belew in her band, she plays freaking violin. I also have to recommend her for Bright Red, Strange Angels, Home Of The Brave, United States Live. Mr Hearbreak did have some pop tendencies, but they weren't all that strong. Come on William freaking Burroughs.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: May 26 2010 at 17:58
Nothing wrong with avant pop, or art pop, in PA (quite a bit of that already). I would still think she could be considerable for Crossover, but if she was turned down before, then I doubt we'll see her in PA.
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: May 26 2010 at 18:00
Logan wrote:
Nothing wrong with avant pop, or art pop, in PA (quite a bit of that already). I would still think she could be considerable for Crossover, but if she was turned down before, then I doubt we'll see her in PA.
Oh well, I do like the way she thinks.
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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: May 27 2010 at 09:37
She did 'O Superman' didn't she - I always thought that was weird enough to be here with her other material - crossover for me though.
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: May 27 2010 at 09:55
I never heard anything by her, but I did read a lot about her in books/articles about performance art in the 70s and 80s. What would you guys recommend?
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: May 27 2010 at 10:11
Album wise, Life On A String.
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: May 27 2010 at 10:48
Logan wrote:
Nothing wrong with avant pop, or art pop, in PA (quite a bit of that already). I would still think she could be considerable for Crossover, but if she was turned down before, then I doubt we'll see her in PA.
I voted NO, but would not have a problem with her in prog-related
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: May 27 2010 at 11:03
Slartibartfast wrote:
Album wise, Life On A String.
Will check out, thanks!
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: May 27 2010 at 11:48
Here With You and Slip Away were my favorites on that one. Also, Live at Town Hall NYC, which came out shortly after is good if you want an overview of her stuff that came out before the live album. Bright Red is pretty good as well. I got to see her on the Strange Angels tour. Pretty cool.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: May 27 2010 at 12:01
Sean Trane wrote:
Logan wrote:
Nothing wrong with avant pop, or art pop, in PA (quite a bit of that already). I would still think she could be considerable for Crossover, but if she was turned down before, then I doubt we'll see her in PA.
I voted NO, but would not have a problem with her in prog-related
I strongly supported her for Prog Related, and tried to make a case to that team, and that was before the criteria were as strict for admission, but probably I didn't go about it the right way (like providing sufficient material for evaluation or, frankly, providing strong enough arguments -- and I'm still not as familair with much of her work like Life on a Strong, which Slarti recommended to me before, as I should be). Though I actually think she's more suitable to Prog-Related for her musical approach, I'd like to see her evaluated by Crossover, at least, and then if the team thinks she has a Prog Related case, then I think the team's appraisal would be taken more seriously. I think it'll be a tough one to show that it sufficiently meets all of the Prog Related criteria. I do think there is Crossover potential, though, and I'd like to see her in, but am not prepared to do the addition any more if it were to be added to Prog-Related. I wouldn't expect her in PA, however.
With Alex here, though, the dynamics have changed, and we may see some progress (this is a case I'd like to see officially closed, one way or the other).
Side-note: I wish these Laurie Anderson topics were merged (if it weren't for the polls, I would do so).
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: May 27 2010 at 12:03
harmonium.ro wrote:
I never heard anything by her, but I did read a lot about her in books/articles about performance art in the 70s and 80s. What would you guys recommend?
I recommend her début, at least because that album has a special place in my heart. Big Science is a good album.
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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: May 27 2010 at 12:33
I support this motion, even if I'm not happy with some of her work. But Big Science (1982) and Mister Heartbreak (1984) make a lot of the music described as "progressive" sound ridiculous. And one must remember she worked with Bill Laswell, Peter Gabriel, Brian Eno...
Her earliest material seems to be hard to get (tracks on various avant-garde compilations in the 70's) and I only found it... well, online... I'm surprised these early (and daring!) pieces have never been collected on CD.
Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: May 27 2010 at 13:40
CPicard wrote:
I support this motion, even if I'm not happy with some of her work. But Big Science (1982) and Mister Heartbreak (1984) make a lot of the music described as "progressive" sound ridiculous. And one must remember she worked with Bill Laswell, Peter Gabriel, Brian Eno...
Her earliest material seems to be hard to get (tracks on various avant-garde compilations in the 70's) and I only found it... well, online... I'm surprised these early (and daring!) pieces have never been collected on CD.
Why don't you send a justification PM to one of the admins for prog related....you will know soon enough. personally I think you stand a better chance at P-R.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: May 27 2010 at 13:46
Chris S wrote:
CPicard wrote:
I support this motion, even if I'm not happy with some of her work. But Big Science (1982) and Mister Heartbreak (1984) make a lot of the music described as "progressive" sound ridiculous. And one must remember she worked with Bill Laswell, Peter Gabriel, Brian Eno...
Her earliest material seems to be hard to get (tracks on various avant-garde compilations in the 70's) and I only found it... well, online... I'm surprised these early (and daring!) pieces have never been collected on CD.
Why don't you send a justification PM to one of the admins for prog related....you will know soon enough. personally I think you stand a better chance at P-R.
I did that years ago, but maybe you'll be able to make the case much better than I did.
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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: May 27 2010 at 13:57
It's a yes from me - very innovative, and at least prog related IMHO.
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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: May 27 2010 at 22:45
Prog related is a definite from me too for what its worth
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Posted By: EatThatPhonebook
Date Posted: May 28 2010 at 00:18
My personal favorite is "Mister Heartbreak", since I grew up with it. Second is Big Science.
Life On A String is pretty good though. "My Compensation" is the creepiest song ever, I still have nightmares about it.
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Posted By: EatThatPhonebook
Date Posted: May 28 2010 at 00:19
Since yes is winning, shouldn't someone add her?
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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: May 28 2010 at 00:40
It has to be collaborated oficially in the collabs section but I predict it will be voted yes eventually but its up to the collabs of that genre.
I liked this one
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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: May 28 2010 at 00:55
I hated this as a kid listening but now i am, actuallyentranced by the
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Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: May 28 2010 at 06:03
In the same league as Laurie Anderson (bizarre pop) you have :
Anne Clark (spoken words with an electro/synth pop/avant-garde pop background depending on the songs):
Dalbello (from 'whomanfoursays' (read human forces) which is a 100 % avant-garde pop album) :
later covered by Queensr˙che
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: May 28 2010 at 06:14
^ those two artists I hadn't heard or heard of, but are rather interesting based the clips. I just can't tack "pop" onto Laurie's works. I have this video where she does a 4/4 version of Smoke Rings. There are two really good VHS videos out there which are out of print and I hope will see the light of DVD one day: Home Of The Brave and a miscellaneous video collection (the name of that one eludes me).
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Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: May 28 2010 at 06:24
^
There are plenty of good pop bands, including on PA (isn't 'piano lessons' a pop song by the way).
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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: May 28 2010 at 08:35
Slartibartfast wrote:
^ those two artists I hadn't heard or heard of, but are rather interesting based the clips. I just can't tack "pop" onto Laurie's works. I have this video where she does a 4/4 version of Smoke Rings. There are two really good VHS videos out there which are out of print and I hope will see the light of DVD one day: Home Of The Brave and a miscellaneous video collection (the name of that one eludes me).
Strange stuff both of them
They are similar to Anderson
i cant pin down the genre really. Avant Garde is close.
Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: October 01 2010 at 12:40
I understand that LA has now been approved for addition by the xover team.
Posted By: Desoc
Date Posted: October 02 2010 at 08:49
Splendid. Another reason why Kate Bush should be moved
Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: October 02 2010 at 10:23