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Topic: Rodrigo San Martin (Symphonic Rock from Argentina)
Posted By: Inthecage
Subject: Rodrigo San Martin (Symphonic Rock from Argentina)
Date Posted: June 13 2010 at 14:27




This guy (21 years old) is a guitarist multi instrumentalist from Buenos Aires. He released his debut album this year (2010) called "1", where he composed, played every instrument, sang produced, mixed and mastered all by himself. It's also the first Argentine album in Surround Sound.

The music's influenced by Porcupine Tree, King Crimson, Pink Floyd, Yes, Mike Oldfield and Genesis.


The album is available as a free download. 



Myspace:


http://www.myspace.com/rsanmartin


Album Download:



http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=99945835c4068628b64026cfc061123698842e5df698ffa2f7e866bfb1230ce0




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Posted By: DamoXt7942
Date Posted: June 14 2010 at 02:48
Now checkin', thanks! :-)

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Posted By: DamoXt7942
Date Posted: June 14 2010 at 03:32
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Wow, wonderful!
Warm, comfortable but highly tense sound bombs he can shoot ...
Not enough Symph nor enough Heavy but may be fit for Eclectic or Crossover IMO.


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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: June 14 2010 at 05:11
It's not an easy case to categorize, indeed, but I'll ask the Symph Team to be the first to evaluate this suggestion. Thanks Thumbs Up


Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: June 14 2010 at 06:29
Rodrigo San Martín sounds like Porcupine tree, or Anathema, even Riverside at times though a commercial melody threaded through it - perhaps a crossover genre.
It is not complex enough for symphonic
 
"No" features wah wah guitars, some distortion, sustained keypads, clean English vocals, instrumental is acoustic and piano then a melodic chorus and wah wah guiatr solo at end. great music, rather more commercial than symph.
 
"Phase 3" has heavy guitar riff that chuggs as clean vocals are sung.
 
"Circe" has harmonic guitar intro and some nice trilling, picking style. acoustic plays as vocals gently sung love centred lyrics, "to see, to hold you in my hands, she  refuses to see, the world as a ????" she refuses to accept what others take for granted.... she refuses to see her world..." A pretty ballad
 
"Blues in E" has a great heavy distorted guitar riff and some nice lead licks in between verses. The time sig changes intermittently and this is more proggy than others i heard. The Hammond sustained chords are very nice. "Who the hell do you think I am, why dont you tell me what are you gonna do" he sings. Lead solo is excellent.  Best song I think.
 
Heavy prog would suit this too from this song. As heavy as Rush or PTree at least.


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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: June 14 2010 at 09:54
About Rodrigo San Martin, in first place I don't trust too much in a band that claims this number of influences:

Quote Porcupine Tree, Genesis, Peter Gabriel, Yes, Pink Floyd, Mike Oldfield, Jethro Tull, Queen, Blackfield, The Gathering, Steven Wilson, King Crimson, Emerson Lake & Palmer, Nobuo Uematsu, Frank Zappa, Metallica, Nightwish, Richard O'brien, Rush, Sting, Steve Hackett, Steve Howe, Adrian Belew, The Beatles, Agua de Annique, The Police, The Who, Alanis Morissette

http://www.myspace.com/rsanmartin - http://www.myspace.com/rsanmartin

Please, nobody plays all this styles, as a fact I hear nothing of Genesis, Gabriel, Oldfield, Tull, Queen, King Crimson, ELP, Zappa, Rush, Hackett, Howe, Bellew or The Who. Maybe something of Pink Foyd and Porcupine Tree, IMO mostly Alternative/Indie.with a bit of Porcupine Tree.

I believe Prog Related at the most, not remotely related to Symphonic.

Iván



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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: June 14 2010 at 10:20
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

About Rodrigo San Martin, in first place I don't trust too much in a band that claims this number of influences:

Quote Porcupine Tree, Genesis, Peter Gabriel, Yes, Pink Floyd, Mike Oldfield, Jethro Tull, Queen, Blackfield, The Gathering, Steven Wilson, King Crimson, Emerson Lake & Palmer, Nobuo Uematsu, Frank Zappa, Metallica, Nightwish, Richard O'brien, Rush, Sting, Steve Hackett, Steve Howe, Adrian Belew, The Beatles, Agua de Annique, The Police, The Who, Alanis Morissette

http://www.myspace.com/rsanmartin - http://www.myspace.com/rsanmartin

Please, nobody plays all this styles, as a fact I hear nothing of Genesis, Gabriel, Oldfield, Tull, Queen, King Crimson, ELP, Zappa, Rush, Hackett, Howe, Bellew or The Who. Maybe something of Pink Foyd and Porcupine Tree, IMO mostly Alternative/Indie.with a bit of Porcupine Tree.

I believe Prog Related at the most, not remotely related to Symphonic.

Iván

file://%5C%5Cfrom - \\from what I can gather I didnt think he was saying he played all these styles but rather was influenced by these artists. i concur that its not symphonic at all. So pass this one on to the crossover and prog related teams in my opinion.

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Posted By: Inthecage
Date Posted: June 14 2010 at 10:51
Originally posted by AtomicCrimsonRush AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:

Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

About Rodrigo San Martin, in first place I don't trust too much in a band that claims this number of influences:

Quote Porcupine Tree, Genesis, Peter Gabriel, Yes, Pink Floyd, Mike Oldfield, Jethro Tull, Queen, Blackfield, The Gathering, Steven Wilson, King Crimson, Emerson Lake & Palmer, Nobuo Uematsu, Frank Zappa, Metallica, Nightwish, Richard O'brien, Rush, Sting, Steve Hackett, Steve Howe, Adrian Belew, The Beatles, Agua de Annique, The Police, The Who, Alanis Morissette

http://www.myspace.com/rsanmartin - http://www.myspace.com/rsanmartin

Please, nobody plays all this styles, as a fact I hear nothing of Genesis, Gabriel, Oldfield, Tull, Queen, King Crimson, ELP, Zappa, Rush, Hackett, Howe, Bellew or The Who. Maybe something of Pink Foyd and Porcupine Tree, IMO mostly Alternative/Indie.with a bit of Porcupine Tree.

I believe Prog Related at the most, not remotely related to Symphonic.

Iván

file://%5C%5Cfrom - \\from what I can gather I didnt think he was saying he played all these styles but rather was influenced by these artists. i concur that its not symphonic at all. So pass this one on to the crossover and prog related teams in my opinion.


I agree, those are his influences while making music, that doesn't mean he sounds like any of them, in fact he sounds quite like himself.


Has any of you heard the full album? I think I'll surprise you. It's an album length track. I guess with something so difficult to categorize it's worth a listen,







Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: June 14 2010 at 18:06
Heard the free album from the link you sent.
 
My opinion hasn't changed
 
Iván


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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: June 15 2010 at 04:26
Originally posted by AtomicCrimsonRush AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:

file://%5C%5Cfrom - \\from what I can gather I didnt think he was saying he played all these styles but rather was influenced by these artists. i concur that its not symphonic at all. So pass this one on to the crossover and prog related teams in my opinion.


That's true Scott, "influences" means more things, not just "similarities". I agree with you.

BTW, if you (as a genre team) reject a suggestion thinking they could have a better chance for another genre, you need to post in that team thread and ask for a evaluation, giving link to the initial suggestion. Smile


Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: June 15 2010 at 04:28
Ok will pass onto prog related as Ivan and I are in agreeance with that.
 
Thanks


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Posted By: DamoXt7942
Date Posted: June 15 2010 at 05:23
Originally posted by AtomicCrimsonRush AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:

Ok will pass onto prog related as Ivan and I are in agreeance with that.
 
Thanks
Maybe cannot fit Related, without influencing upon younger progressive rock project methinks. Wink


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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: June 15 2010 at 09:13
What does that mean? I am more puzzled now?

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Posted By: Inthecage
Date Posted: June 15 2010 at 10:44

Prog related seems a little harsh to me, sounds like "Not enough prog to be a prog band" haha


You're right, I don't think it's Symphonic anymore, I guess I'd call it Crossover, since it uses a lot prog elements that are not necessarily in the same sub genre. 









Posted By: DamoXt7942
Date Posted: June 16 2010 at 18:53
Originally posted by AtomicCrimsonRush AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:

What does that mean? I am more puzzled now?
Oh sorry for my belated reply, but let's see the definition of Related and you can find as follows:
Quote Prog Related is the category that groups bands and artists that:

- Without being 100% Prog, received clear MUSICAL influence of this genre, AND

- Are widely accepted as MUSICALLY influential to the development of Progressive Rock by the community, AND

- Blend characteristics of Progressive Rock with mainstream elements creating a final product that despite not being part of the genre is evident that are close to Prog.
I suggest he cannot meet the requirement on the red underline maybe. Smile
Of course, I think he should be progressive (nearly 100% methinks) so he can be fit for Crossover or Eclectic (as a mixture of Hev and Symph).


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Posted By: Inthecage
Date Posted: June 27 2010 at 15:44
Originally posted by DamoXt7942 DamoXt7942 wrote:

Originally posted by AtomicCrimsonRush AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:

What does that mean? I am more puzzled now?
Oh sorry for my belated reply, but let's see the definition of Related and you can find as follows:
Quote Prog Related is the category that groups bands and artists that:

- Without being 100% Prog, received clear MUSICAL influence of this genre, AND

- Are widely accepted as MUSICALLY influential to the development of Progressive Rock by the community, AND

- Blend characteristics of Progressive Rock with mainstream elements creating a final product that despite not being part of the genre is evident that are close to Prog.
I suggest he cannot meet the requirement on the red underline maybe. Smile
Of course, I think he should be progressive (nearly 100% methinks) so he can be fit for Crossover or Eclectic (as a mixture of Hev and Symph).


I agree.


So, how do we call the eclectic team?



Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: December 09 2010 at 18:52
Hi, what is the status of this suggestion? I've listened to the album and he truly deserves a place here.

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Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: April 04 2011 at 10:28
I think that Crossover would be best for this band. I think PR would be a bit harsh, seeing as it is obviously prog, just not prog enough for symphonic. 

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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: April 11 2011 at 20:14
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Originally posted by AtomicCrimsonRush AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:

file://%5C%5Cfrom" rel="nofollow - \\from what I can gather I didnt think he was saying he played all these styles but rather was influenced by these artists. i concur that its not symphonic at all. So pass this one on to the crossover and prog related teams in my opinion.


That's true Scott, "influences" means more things, not just "similarities". I agree with you.

BTW, if you (as a genre team) reject a suggestion thinking they could have a better chance for another genre, you need to post in that team thread and ask for a evaluation, giving link to the initial suggestion. Smile

Hi Harmonium.

Some time ago with Guigo and believe HT also, we notified the Crossover Team and Guigo said the would wait for the response of that team before suggesting Rodrigo to Prof Related.

I still believe Prog Related is the best place and don't find it harsh, great bands are there.

Iván


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Posted By: russellk
Date Posted: April 17 2011 at 17:03
I can hear some of the influences. Certainly Porcupine Tree, also Oldfield in the guitar tone, chord changes and the juxtaposition of elements. I'm guessing all those influences were listed in order to increase traffic from searches.

I'm not sure where this music belongs. It's definitely prog rock. I would have said Eclectic myself, possibly crossover. It doesn't fulfill the requirements for prog-related.


Posted By: Sanmartinphase7
Date Posted: April 18 2011 at 00:45
Hi, I'm Rodrigo San Martín.

Here you can listen/download my second album (the first one is already at  the beginning of this topic, but you can listen to it from the same link I'm posting):

http://www.rodrigosanmartin.com.ar/#/1.2/en/musica/" rel="nofollow - http://www.rodrigosanmartin.com.ar/#/1.2/en/musica/

Thank you very much for taking the time to check out my music, I know It's quite hard to cathegorize it in a sub genre.


 


Posted By: toroddfuglesteg
Date Posted: April 19 2011 at 10:33

Hi Rodrigo.

How is the interview progressing, btw ?

*gentle reminder*  Cool



Posted By: Sanmartinphase7
Date Posted: April 19 2011 at 17:36
Hi, hope to finish the interview very soon, I'm VERY sorry for the long wait! 


Posted By: Marty McFly
Date Posted: April 23 2011 at 15:34
Rodrigo, I would like to say that you have my vote for Crossover. Two other needed. I posted link you have on myspace for the album (in our team thread).

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Posted By: Sanmartinphase7
Date Posted: April 24 2011 at 20:07
Thanks! =)


Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: April 24 2011 at 22:09
^ Under evaluation at the moment Sax man
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and since cleared for additionThumbs Up


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Posted By: Sanmartinphase7
Date Posted: April 25 2011 at 20:20
Great! Thanks guys! Smile

Is there anything more I need to do? 


Posted By: Marty McFly
Date Posted: April 26 2011 at 04:51

As a matter of fact, you can. You can provide us biography (preferably a little bit different than the one you normally use - more objective, less subjective)

&

tracklisting for all full releases + lineup, who was playing or doing what.

LOL 


It can be sometimes very difficult to gather these informations.



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Posted By: Sanmartinphase7
Date Posted: April 26 2011 at 10:11
All the info on the albums and an updated biography can be found here:

http://www.rodrigosanmartin.com.ar/#/1.2/en/musica/" rel="nofollow - http://www.rodrigosanmartin.com.ar/#/1.2/en/musica/

(the first two ones are full albums, "There's No Way Out" and "1", and the last two are singles)

I'll work on a more objective biography and PM to you


Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: April 28 2011 at 15:24
Great to know you are cleared for addition. So my review can be at last posted :)

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Posted By: Sanmartinphase7
Date Posted: April 28 2011 at 17:46
Thanks,, I'm intrigued!Smile




Posted By: Sanmartinphase7
Date Posted: April 30 2011 at 01:03
I'm finally on the archives! Smile

Thanks to everyone who helped me!

Memowakeman here's the link for There's No Way Out in case you want to upload your review:

http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=33195" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=33195




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