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Topic: Twilight Alehouse - Genesis
Posted By: WatcherOfTheSkies88
Subject: Twilight Alehouse - Genesis
Date Posted: August 17 2010 at 22:15
Was "Twilight Alehouse" by Genesis ever recorded in studio and released? If so, where can I find this studio version of this song? Or can the song only be found on live recordings? Which live version of this song is the best?



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Posted By: KingCrimson250
Date Posted: August 17 2010 at 22:35
I'm pretty sure that the Archives Vol 1 have got a studio recording of it (the B-side to I Know What I Like). That may be live but it doesn't seem like it. I mean the quality isn't the greatest but it seems on-par with the Trespass/NC recordings. Considering how it seems similar to that era in terms of writing as well, I'd guess it was a song written and recorded around that point in time that didn't see the light of day until SEBTP


Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: August 17 2010 at 22:36
^ I think you are right. What a fantastic song too.It was one of those early genesis songs I got to hear on the archives 1 album when it was first released. Like a hidden jewel.

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Posted By: Garion81
Date Posted: August 17 2010 at 22:36
They released the demo on this box set:


They never made it an official release on any other album. It was a live staple in their early years.  I had it years ago on a Charisma sampler in the 70's that was the first time I had heard it. 


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Posted By: tarkus1980
Date Posted: August 17 2010 at 22:47
Originally posted by Garion81 Garion81 wrote:

They released the demo on this box set:
 
Uh, I'm pretty sure that's not a demo.  If it's a demo, then it's the greatest, most fully-developed demo of all time.

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Posted By: Garion81
Date Posted: August 17 2010 at 22:58
^ It is a demo in that they never mastered it for release.  So if you know something more than tell me.



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Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: August 18 2010 at 02:30
As KC250 says, it was a single B side in the early 70's.


Posted By: WatcherOfTheSkies88
Date Posted: August 18 2010 at 12:01
Thanks for the help, guys! 


Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: August 19 2010 at 08:10
It's also available on the bonus disc included in the 1970 - 75 box set released a couple of years back.


Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: August 19 2010 at 09:03
Originally posted by Chris S Chris S wrote:

^ I think you are right. What a fantastic song too.It was one of those early genesis songs I got to hear on the archives 1 album when it was first released. Like a hidden jewel.
 
I first heard this gen of a song in the late 70's when the local TVOntario station aired the Belgian Pop Shop broadcast.....
 
 
 
This show has been officialy released on the NC or Foxtrot DVD-A of the boxset
 
 
I was also lucky enough to have a friend that posessed the single, so I got to hear it (and taped it) quite a few times in the late=70's and early-80's, until the tape died (it was my friend's BASF cassette, I only used XLIIS
 
 
I didn't get to hear another version for almost 20 years until that  Archives boxset). I think gen should've added it as an extra to either NC or Trespass


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Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: August 19 2010 at 10:17
Good point Hugues. For many years the track gained almost legendary status as it was all but impossible to actually hear it. I'm talking of course about the pre download/Mp3 days. The non-album single "Happy the man" was the same.


Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: August 19 2010 at 10:21
Originally posted by Garion81 Garion81 wrote:

^ It is a demo in that they never mastered it for release.  So if you know something more than tell me.


Well as has been said it was released as the b side of I Know...... so this is the same version and therefore not a demo.


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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: August 19 2010 at 12:58
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Garion81 Garion81 wrote:

^ It is a demo in that they never mastered it for release.  So if you know something more than tell me.


Well as has been said it was released as the b side of I Know...... so this is the same version and therefore not a demo.
 
Indeed, and it doesn't sound like a demo either. Nice song, BTW. Not one of their best, but quite enjoyable.


Posted By: Cosmiclawnmower
Date Posted: August 19 2010 at 13:57
The first embryonic 'riff' from twighlight Alehouse can be heard between tracks on 'Genesis to Revelation' and was indeed a popular Live song from very early on but one which they never got around to recording in those days. a version was recorded for the BBC live sessions in 72 and there is some debate whether this version is the one which is often stated on bootlegs (its a bit rough but a great version!! a bit longer than the single version). A 'Live in the Studio' version from the belgian 'Rock of the 70's' TV programme from early 72 is available on various DVD's and as a DVD extra on the recent Genesis-1970-75 CD box set on the Foxtrot 2 disc. The version on the 'Archives' is the same as the 'B' side of 'I know what i like' single (1973, CB.224) but was released before that as a single sided 'Flexi disc' to members of the fan club and then free with New Musical express or Sounds (or even Melody maker- i forget!!). 
A Great Genesis songs; one of the best ever in fact and well, well worth tracking down
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Posted By: oddiyo
Date Posted: August 24 2010 at 02:47
A great song... but, I prefer the live Belgian TV version compared to the studio (B-side single) version. I often believe Genesis was a more powerful live band, than when they recorded in the studio. Both "Genesis Live" and "Seconds Out" are great examples of how good this band could be.

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Posted By: b4usleep
Date Posted: August 24 2010 at 04:47
Originally posted by Chris S Chris S wrote:

^ I think you are right. What a fantastic song too.It was one of those early genesis songs I got to hear on the archives 1 album when it was first released. Like a hidden jewel.


ıt is hidden for sure but i am not sure about the jewel thing .





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