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Topic: Are you superstitious?
Posted By: Paravion
Subject: Are you superstitious?
Date Posted: September 10 2010 at 06:15
Are you superstitious.

If you are religious, please vote yes :)

Not religious, but I must admit that I consider myself somewhat superstitious.

On an occasion like this, I'd like to acquiant you with a recent experience I had.

Yesterday I was sitting on the outskirts of Christania (a freetown in Copenhagen, known for a very liberal attitude towards cannabis) overlooking the lakes and canals, listening to Aksak Maboul with just a little spice in my cigarette. A strange guy approached me. He had long thin red hair in braids, dressed in worn hippie-chlotes, was old and wore sunglasses. He insisted I was some guy from Sweden and that he knew who my mother was. That was untrue. He asked if he could tell my fortune in cards. I agreed.

The first card I drew was the six of clubs. That apparently meant nothing less than death, and from what he told me, I could just as well commit suicide. That was a little disturbing, but then I drew another card.

It was the eigth of culbs. The digit 8 has similarities with the symbol of eternity, which, according to what he told me, overruled the death thing.

The last card I drew was the seven of diamonds. Seven is a mythological mystery number and apparently it was some sort of 'wildcard', it could be anything. And because of that he said that he granted me with an (immaterial) implant in my heart, that would guide me through the rest of my existance in the best possible way.

He then packed his his set of cards and vanished. He didn't want anything, no money no nothing.  

I'm not saying I 'believe' in it, but I'm somewhat grateful for my implant. :) 



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Date Posted: September 10 2010 at 06:17
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Posted By: Mr ProgFreak
Date Posted: September 10 2010 at 06:17
No. I think that we're all vulnerable to holding superstitious beliefs, but I try to minimize them.Smile

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Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: September 10 2010 at 06:18
Not superstitious, but maybe a little paranoid.

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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: September 10 2010 at 06:26
I am not superstitious. And to lay my cards open: I am a christian, but I am not religious. And as far as I still am without knowing this, I'm sure that I shall be delivered from it.
By the way, I won't put this to the test by getting involved in fortune telling bullsh*t Wink.

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Posted By: Paravion
Date Posted: September 10 2010 at 06:56
Originally posted by Mr ProgFreak Mr ProgFreak wrote:

No. I think that we're all vulnerable to holding superstitious beliefs, but I try to minimize them.Smile
I agree. Ultimately, I don't hold any beliefs. But the way my mind works, I'd hate to rule anything out partly because I consider it likely that the human mind is incapable of comprehending 'the world' in all it's complexities. 
Certainly, my attitude towards fortune telling is generally that it is a load of bullsh*t. Was it not for my spiced up cigarette, the setting and the attractive strangeness of the guy, I'd never have agreed.


Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: September 10 2010 at 07:42
Originally posted by Paravion Paravion wrote:



If you are religious, please vote yes :)


Oops.


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Posted By: Any Colour You Like
Date Posted: September 10 2010 at 07:53
No.


Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: September 10 2010 at 08:21
I'm superstitious about Stevie Wonder.  Very much so.Tongue 

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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: September 10 2010 at 08:25
No. Never. Don't believe in luck, fate, kismet, karma, destiny, forordination or predetermination either.
 
I like serendipity because it's a nice word, unlike happenstance, which isn't.


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Posted By: seventhsojourn
Date Posted: September 10 2010 at 08:34
You were listening to Aksak Maboul and smoking ''spice'', but the other dude was a ''strange guy''... ClapLOL


Posted By: Rivertree
Date Posted: September 10 2010 at 08:41
Shocked  Oh, I believe in luck (here and there) - so am I superstitious?



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Posted By: Mr ProgFreak
Date Posted: September 10 2010 at 08:52
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

No. Never. Don't believe in luck, fate, kismet, karma, destiny, forordination or predetermination either.
 
I like serendipity because it's a nice word, unlike happenstance, which isn't.


I like serendipity because it reminds me of Salma Hayek.Big smile




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Posted By: Any Colour You Like
Date Posted: September 10 2010 at 09:01
Originally posted by Mr ProgFreak Mr ProgFreak wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

No. Never. Don't believe in luck, fate, kismet, karma, destiny, forordination or predetermination either.
 
I like serendipity because it's a nice word, unlike happenstance, which isn't.


I like serendipity because it reminds me of Salma Hayek.Big smile




This is a valid reason.


Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: September 10 2010 at 09:06

Maybe a little.  I know one thing for sure: Nobody has had more black cats cross their path.  Damn things seem to appear from nowhere.



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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: September 10 2010 at 09:37
Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

Maybe a little.  I know one thing for sure: Nobody has had more black cats cross their path.  Damn things seem to appear from nowhere.


I have a black cat and things are even worse.  She treats me like furniture.


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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: September 10 2010 at 09:58
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

Maybe a little.  I know one thing for sure: Nobody has had more black cats cross their path.  Damn things seem to appear from nowhere.


I have a black cat and things are even worse.  She treats me like furniture.
Acceptable if she treated you like a chair or a bed, but like a sideboard, wardrobe or bookshelf I'd probably be concerned.

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Posted By: seventhsojourn
Date Posted: September 10 2010 at 10:23
Originally posted by Paravion Paravion wrote:

 
If you are religious, please vote yes :)

You're asking me to sin? Wink
 
Not religious, but I must admit that I consider myself somewhat superstitious.
 
Does that make you somewhat religious? Smile

 
 


Posted By: NecronCommander
Date Posted: September 10 2010 at 10:58
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by Paravion Paravion wrote:



If you are religious, please vote yes :)


Oops.

Double oops.


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Posted By: spookytooth
Date Posted: September 10 2010 at 11:04
Not religious, not superstitious.

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Posted By: Mr ProgFreak
Date Posted: September 10 2010 at 11:08
I wonder how many religious people voted "not superstitious" ... NukeWink

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Posted By: WalterDigsTunes
Date Posted: September 10 2010 at 11:17
Originally posted by progkidjoel progkidjoel wrote:

Not superstitious, but maybe a little paranoid.


This, particularly after being in an 8.8 quake zone followed by another 7.2 quake zone months later.


Posted By: The T
Date Posted: September 10 2010 at 11:19
No. 

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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: September 10 2010 at 11:20
Originally posted by Mr ProgFreak Mr ProgFreak wrote:

I wonder how many religious people voted "not superstitious" ... NukeWink
All of them I would hope. Wink

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Posted By: NecronCommander
Date Posted: September 10 2010 at 11:20
Originally posted by Mr ProgFreak Mr ProgFreak wrote:

I wonder how many religious people voted "not superstitious" ... NukeWink

Me.  And Rob.
I believe in God but I wouldn't call myself very religious.


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Posted By: seventhsojourn
Date Posted: September 10 2010 at 11:23
Originally posted by Mr ProgFreak Mr ProgFreak wrote:

I wonder how many religious people voted "not superstitious" ... NukeWink
 
Atheists and believers in other religions might see Catholicism as superstition.
 
The Catholic Church considers superstition as sinful.
 
According to the OP, whichever way I vote I'm either an hypocrite or a sinner... another of those no-win dilemmas! Wink


Posted By: Mr ProgFreak
Date Posted: September 10 2010 at 11:39
I guess that believer in religion X would see religion Y as superstition - or in the alternative the believer in X thinks that Y got it wrong and actually mean X.Wink Anyway, didn't mean to derail this thread.Smile

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Posted By: NecronCommander
Date Posted: September 10 2010 at 11:47
Yeah, that was dangerously close to merging into your other thread. Tongue


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Posted By: seventhsojourn
Date Posted: September 10 2010 at 11:56
^ ^^ LOL
 
To (kind of) get back on topic... I like Salma Hayek because she reminds me of Penelope Cruz. Smile


Posted By: Paravion
Date Posted: September 10 2010 at 12:04
Originally posted by seventsojourn seventsojourn wrote:

You were listening to Aksak Maboul and smoking ''spice'', but the other dude was a ''strange guy''... ClapLOL

Me? I'm completely sane. Smile

Originally posted by seventhsojourn seventhsojourn wrote:

Originally posted by Paravion Paravion wrote:

 
If you are religious, please vote yes :)

You're asking me to sin? Wink
 
Not religious, but I must admit that I consider myself somewhat superstitious.
 
Does that make you somewhat religious? Smile

 
 

I see the paradox. But I really don't care about how various religions define 'sin'.

The second question is much worse. I'm not because I find dogmas repelling and hate the idea of 'organized' superstition.  Perhaps I'm somewhat religious in the sense that I can't really rule out the possibility of a god. But I don't have the need for one - so no, not religious. 

I'm emotionally attached to some hymns though, they remind me of dead people. And this is my favorite Johnny Cash record.
Confused

About religion and superstition. I find a statement like "I believe in god (be it any of them) but I'm not superstitious"  very odd. But again - it all comes down to semantics. 

The reason I invited religious people to vote 'yes', was merely to increase the number of yes-voters, so I wouldn't belong to (as I foresaw) such a large minority. Smile 


Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: September 10 2010 at 12:08
I do like the word happenstance, more than I like serendidipidety, even though it doesn't remind me of salma Hayek.
 
anyway I'm religious therefor not superstitious.
 
I do believe in tarotcards because God has made those cards, since he created everything. and therefor it's not superstition, but an acceptance of the possibility to foretell the future through signs given to us by God, and those signs can be found in cards, dice, coffee and even in alcoholic delerium. Most superstition is based on actual facts, it can bring bad luck to walk under a ladder (imagine a painter above you having a heart-attack and falling on top of you and ending your life, that's bad luck that wouldn't have happened if you had walked around it).
 
anyway just rambling because I got bored.


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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: September 10 2010 at 12:31
No.
Originally posted by Rivertree Rivertree wrote:

Shocked  Oh, I believe in luck (here and there) - so am I superstitious?
I would say so.
Originally posted by Mr ProgFreak Mr ProgFreak wrote:

I guess that believer in religion X would see religion Y as superstition - or in the alternative the believer in X thinks that Y got it wrong and actually mean X.Wink Anyway, didn't mean to derail this thread.Smile
Christianity, at least, views superstitions (like throwing salt over your shoulder for "luck") as much different from religion. No Christian would say Islam or Buddhism is a superstition unless they were trying to be offensive. A big difference is that prayer is directly asking God for something, and it may or may not happen. A superstition is doing something that will have an effect because of the arcane unexplained laws of the universe. I understand why an atheist would view all religion as superstition, but I hope you can see the difference between praying to a deity that you believe exists and trying to predict the future with tarot cards.


Posted By: Mr ProgFreak
Date Posted: September 10 2010 at 12:45
^ I would not start using the word "superstition" when I'm talking about religion - but I do think that they have one important aspect in common: There's no good reason to believe that they're true. Someone who believes in tarot cards needs the same kind of faith as one who thinks that God listens to prayers.


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Posted By: Rivertree
Date Posted: September 10 2010 at 15:04
Originally posted by seventhsojourn seventhsojourn wrote:

^ ^^ LOL
 
To (kind of) get back on topic... I like Salma Hayek because she reminds me of Penelope Cruz. Smile


superstitious indeed Wink


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Posted By: Guest
Date Posted: September 11 2010 at 00:58
Yes, my day is ruined if I see one magpie.
 
 
 
Unhappy


Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: September 11 2010 at 01:11
I agree with Mike. 




Posted By: WalterDigsTunes
Date Posted: September 11 2010 at 01:20
Originally posted by Rivertree Rivertree wrote:

Originally posted by seventhsojourn seventhsojourn wrote:

^ ^^ LOL
 
To (kind of) get back on topic... I like Salma Hayek because she reminds me of Penelope Cruz. Smile


superstitious indeed Wink


They're both Paz Vega.


Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: September 11 2010 at 06:21
I can't see the relation between religion and superstition, sorry - I voted no


Posted By: zappaholic
Date Posted: September 11 2010 at 06:30
I ain't superstitious.

I do, however, believe in the power of the Cleveland Sports Curse.



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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: September 15 2010 at 10:06
Originally posted by progkidjoel progkidjoel wrote:

Not superstitious, but maybe a little paranoid.


Yeah, that sounds like me too..

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Posted By: Lizzy
Date Posted: September 15 2010 at 11:37
Not superstitious, but subconsciously I might resort to actions that could be considered acts of superstition.
Don't want to, but it happens.


Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: September 15 2010 at 22:18
No -- only when I choose to be.

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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: September 15 2010 at 22:20
*In Dave Mustaine snarl*

I AINT SUPERSTITIOUS


Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: September 16 2010 at 01:48
Originally posted by Guest Guest wrote:

Yes, my day is ruined if I see one magpie.
 
 
 
Unhappy
 
Magpie is officaly my favourite bird together with Crow and Raven, (becouse these birds have aprooven intelegence on the same IQ level as Shimps, Gorillas, Orangutangs, Dolphins and Cats)


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Posted By: Conor Fynes
Date Posted: September 16 2010 at 01:49
All I believe in is the strength of the human will.


Posted By: TheClosing
Date Posted: September 16 2010 at 03:53
Originally posted by Mr ProgFreak Mr ProgFreak wrote:

I wonder how many religious people voted "not superstitious" ... NukeWink

su·per·sti·tion

  [soo-per-stish-uhn] 
–noun
1.
a belief or notion, not based on reason or knowledge, in or of the ominous significance of a particular thing, circumstance, occurrence, proceeding, or the like.
2.
a system or collection of such beliefs.
3.
a custom or act based on such a belief. 
4.
irrational fear of what is unknown or mysterious, esp. inconnection with religion.
5.
any blindly accepted belief or notion.



Yep, it's the perfect dictionary definition fit. Wink


Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: September 26 2010 at 06:10
I hope I never end up being superstitious (touch wood) Oh Bugger Confused

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Posted By: GY!BE
Date Posted: September 29 2010 at 19:08
Nope

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Posted By: himtroy
Date Posted: September 29 2010 at 19:49
No.  I don't believe in impractical things.  I don't believe in supernatural things, which rules out religion, "fate", determinism, all that crap.  Things happen because circumstances leading up to it made it happen, or because paths we're just crossed, not because "the fates predetermined that these things would meet up at this time".

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Posted By: jampa17
Date Posted: October 01 2010 at 14:03
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

I'm superstitious about Stevie Wonder.  Very much so.Tongue 
This is the best post I ever read... LOLLOLLOL

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Posted By: jampa17
Date Posted: October 01 2010 at 14:09
Originally posted by Lizzy Lizzy wrote:

Not superstitious, but subconsciously I might resort to actions that could be considered acts of superstition.
Don't want to, but it happens.
I think this is what happen to anyone of us. Sometimes we might think about things that are not quite rational but we fall to it sometimes... this is my answer...

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Posted By: Deleuze
Date Posted: October 01 2010 at 16:24
rofl, look at the definition...I AINT

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Posted By: DeKay
Date Posted: October 05 2010 at 11:06
Absolutely not



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