Ray Shulman Vs Mike Rutherford
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Topic: Ray Shulman Vs Mike Rutherford
Posted By: The Wrinkler
Subject: Ray Shulman Vs Mike Rutherford
Date Posted: October 23 2010 at 16:51
| This might be interesting... what do you think? |
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: October 23 2010 at 18:20
I think this is a bit of a silly poll and we don't do those kinds of things around here.  Which is to say, hell I don't know. Are we having them joust with guitars or something? Seems like Ray would be fiercer, but Mike could take him with the double neck thingy.  ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: October 23 2010 at 19:27
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Ray.
But Rutherford will surely win because he's with Genesis which automatically makes him one of the best at what he does. |
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: October 23 2010 at 20:43
| The one from the good band |
Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: October 23 2010 at 20:56
So that means Schulman. He was better in every way I can think of, plus he played a lot of instruments, something that the other guy didn't.  -------------   
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Triceratopsoil wrote:Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: October 23 2010 at 21:02
yes it does |
Posted By: Lark the Starless
Date Posted: October 23 2010 at 23:19
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I'll give some love to Mike ------------- 
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Posted By: The Wrinkler
Date Posted: October 24 2010 at 00:12
| TO be honest, I thought this was going to be somewhat of a tie... I like Mike's attack speed bass lines! |
Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: October 24 2010 at 00:26
Never mind. I had no idea Ray was so highly acclaimed here.
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Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: October 24 2010 at 00:59
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Ray for me easily as well.
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Posted By: spookytooth
Date Posted: October 24 2010 at 01:02
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Oh Ray Shulman easily. I love MIke Rutherford's bass playing skills but Ray Schulman beats him in every way.
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Posted By: Jazzywoman
Date Posted: October 24 2010 at 02:17
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RAY!!!! Mike...even if I love Genesis, he is no match! ------------- 
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Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: October 24 2010 at 02:50
The irony is that Mike is the one Genesis member, at least from the famous fivesome and leaving aside Phillips, who doesn't quite get his due. He is a wonderful bassist, indispensable to Genesis I reckon, but not better than Ray in my reading and, it seems, in that of majority of those who have voted so far on this poll.
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Posted By: friso
Date Posted: October 24 2010 at 04:30
| It's kind of surprise for me to see this result in favor of the Gentle Giant bass player. I do think Shulman deserves it. |
Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: October 24 2010 at 05:49
| Mike Rutherford (Genesis) |
Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: October 24 2010 at 06:14
This guy:
Ray Shulman
------------- A Elbereth Gilthoniel silivren penna míriel o menel aglar elenath! Na-chaered palan-díriel o galadhremmin ennorath, Fanuilos, le linnathon nef aear, sí nef aearon! |
Posted By: dedokras
Date Posted: October 24 2010 at 06:16
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RAY
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Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: October 24 2010 at 06:28
But he´s somewhat ridiculous:
 ------------- A Elbereth Gilthoniel silivren penna míriel o menel aglar elenath! Na-chaered palan-díriel o galadhremmin ennorath, Fanuilos, le linnathon nef aear, sí nef aearon! |
Posted By: MonsterMagnet
Date Posted: October 24 2010 at 07:10
| Ray Shulman, no question. |
Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: October 24 2010 at 09:18
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Shulman - not just on bass but every other instrument as well.
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Posted By: Formentera Lady
Date Posted: October 24 2010 at 10:26
This. |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: October 24 2010 at 10:41
That. ------------- 
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Posted By: yanch
Date Posted: October 24 2010 at 12:25
| Ray Shulman for sure. I like Rutherford's playing alot, but Ray was amazing. I find his playing much more interesting. |
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: October 24 2010 at 14:04
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I love Rutherford, but I don't think there is much comparison. Another vote for the leader.
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Posted By: axeman
Date Posted: October 26 2010 at 21:36
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I would like to find a poll where I gave Mike my vote as a bassist. I enjoy his bass lines. But this goes to Schulman.
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Posted By: The Wrinkler
Date Posted: October 27 2010 at 02:47
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I too want to see more polls with Rutherford getting some wins... I just didn't expect so much GG love
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Posted By: Formentera Lady
Date Posted: October 27 2010 at 05:12
 . This is not a poll Genesis vs. Gentle Giant, in which case, Genesis would win by miles. |
Posted By: Myke_P
Date Posted: December 06 2012 at 19:41
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I always will like Mike Rutherford but Ray Shulman... Wins!!! Flawless Victory!!!!!  ------------- Myke P was here. |
Posted By: Eria Tarka
Date Posted: December 06 2012 at 22:36
| Ray Shulman by a hair. |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: December 07 2012 at 00:57
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You know (?) - it has taken me about 12.9 seconds to decide................it has to be Ray. I love both of their respective bands' dearly. Mike R. is highly skillled, but I'm sure that what he achieved post-Selling England never exceeded his approach. Ray went from strength-to-strength on each album up to, at least a year later with 'Power And The Glory'. Ray's bass-lines are a frad more complex than Mike's. And then, comparing Ray's bass on 'Civilian' (1980), sure exceeds Mike's on Duke (1980). Ray played extra instruments (namely, Violin) and Mike played a rather 'generic' lead-guitar. They are both superb musicians, but for me, Ray takes the cake. Discounting the executive mogul's decision of doing 'From Genesis To Revelation' as a debut album (3 stars for me), Gentle Giant produce their self-titled effort of a much higher quality (and a smidgeon better than 'Trespass'). Ray it is. |
Posted By: akaBona
Date Posted: December 07 2012 at 07:37
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: December 07 2012 at 08:35
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both are incredible bass players with great personality in their playing, destinctive sound, great power, punch, and character, which is the best charecteristic in bass playing, also they both have great technique, speed, durability and dynamical capabilitys,
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Posted By: Earthmover
Date Posted: December 07 2012 at 09:34
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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: December 07 2012 at 09:38
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Posted By: The Bearded Bard
Date Posted: December 07 2012 at 13:58
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Posted By: geneyesontle
Date Posted: December 07 2012 at 19:05
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Posted By: Progmind
Date Posted: December 07 2012 at 20:18
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Posted By: HackettFan
Date Posted: December 08 2012 at 01:18
| Mike Rutherford. I give him a plus for his rhythm guitar, which provided some unlikely chords with interesting tunings, and the texture created with his 12 string accompanyment with Anthony Phillips and Banks and Hackett. |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: December 08 2012 at 02:50
| A little surprised. Rutherford is pretty damn brilliant on A Trick Of The Tail. Shulman is obviously very talented as well but I can't think of anything off the top of my head that matches say Los Endos. |
Posted By: BarryGlibb
Date Posted: December 08 2012 at 05:13
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Go Ray! How complex and funky can you get?
I am amazed at this vote. But to me Ray Shulman was one of *the* best prog bass players and not just vs Mike R. |
Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: December 08 2012 at 07:26
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Ray Shulman is one of the best bass players period. ------------- https://gabebuller.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - New album! http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385 |
Posted By: Dr. Occulator
Date Posted: December 08 2012 at 15:26
Ray all the way! Still like Mike though.  ------------- My Doc Told Me I Have Doggie Head. |
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: February 03 2013 at 16:44
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Mike is a bit larger influence on my own playing so i vote for him. but Ray is also influenced for my playing.
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Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: February 04 2013 at 09:58
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Posted By: The Doctor
Date Posted: February 04 2013 at 10:21
These. I do think Rutherford is often an underrated member of Genesis, and an underrated bassist. However, Shulman still wins this one. ------------- I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you? |
Posted By: ole-the-first
Date Posted: February 04 2013 at 11:10
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Shulman
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