Trollin' Polls Vol. 1: Dream Theater vs. Magma
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Topic: Trollin' Polls Vol. 1: Dream Theater vs. Magma
Posted By: Anthony H.
Subject: Trollin' Polls Vol. 1: Dream Theater vs. Magma
Date Posted: November 13 2010 at 13:10
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This is the first in a series of polls I plan to make that, despite having nothing objectively offensive about them, will in all likelihood create fierce and vitriolic argument. Let the blood begin, folks!
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: November 13 2010 at 13:14
| For real trolling, Magma should win, but I foresee this isn't going to happen. |
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: November 13 2010 at 13:19
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Just compare.
Magma definitely.
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Posted By: The Sleepwalker
Date Posted: November 13 2010 at 13:19
Both suck.  ------------- 
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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: November 13 2010 at 13:21
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LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL Nice poll Tony |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: November 13 2010 at 13:21
I have to admit this IS good trolling  |
The Sleepwalker wrote:Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: November 13 2010 at 13:51
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Let there be glao. Magma iss deh hundin. Wurdah Dream Theater. ------------- Just a music fan passing through trying to fill some void. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Various music I am into now: a youtube playlist |
Posted By: Elderflower Man
Date Posted: November 13 2010 at 14:04
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The trolling, it hurts...! D= Haven't listened to much Magma, so I'm not voting. Although I will say that Dream Theater still have my love because a) they did amazing stuff, so shut up, and b) they introduced me to prog. ------------- All your hearts now seem so far from me, It hardly seems to matter now. |
Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: November 13 2010 at 14:22
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Magma! ------------- 
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Posted By: Atoms
Date Posted: November 13 2010 at 14:50
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Magma all the way, Dream Theater is one of the least enjoyable prog metal bands, no wait, one of the least enjoyable prog |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: November 13 2010 at 14:53
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I like both, but Magma is my favourite of these two. ------------- 
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Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: November 13 2010 at 15:06
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Magma.
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Posted By: Rrozza
Date Posted: November 13 2010 at 16:20
| DT |
Posted By: Noak
Date Posted: November 13 2010 at 16:21
| Haha, damn. Magma for sure. Dream Theater are awful. |
Posted By: Lizzy
Date Posted: November 13 2010 at 16:42
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Thus far this poll has been a very effective way of burying DT alive. Kewl!
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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: November 13 2010 at 16:47
Wow, this is indeed surprising. The 'prohibition of newbies to vote' actually works? Or maybe DT fans are all sleeping...hmm..
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[11.11%]Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: November 13 2010 at 16:50
| It's funny, I used to think DT were going to go down as a legend of prog, but now it seems their legacy is unravelling. The more time passes, the more people seem to view them as cheesy and over-rated. Maybe they won't be remembered so well after all. |
Posted By: akaBona
Date Posted: November 13 2010 at 16:57
| Magma |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: November 13 2010 at 17:18
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I would strongly disagree with those who would say that Dream Theater's debut is better than Magma's, but I do like "Ytse Jam". It reminds me of Spinal Tap's "Rock 'n Roll Creation". ------------- Just a music fan passing through trying to fill some void. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Various music I am into now: a youtube playlist |
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: November 13 2010 at 17:20
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Although, tbqh, DT's debut is by far their best which puts it about on-par with Merci |
Posted By: Klogg
Date Posted: November 13 2010 at 17:20
Surprise! Magma is winning! -------------  Pentagram Pizza YumYum Bloody 
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: November 13 2010 at 17:25
Not sure yet. When they were in the band tournament against Zappa, they had double the votes for the first hours, but then people kept coming online and in the end Zappa won with a vast majority. It seems to me that avantgarde / zeuhl fans stay online more, while conventional prog fans come less often, or even only occasionally. |
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: November 13 2010 at 17:29
you know what? wasn't that before the admins cracked down on multiple poll accounts? |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: November 13 2010 at 17:30
that is another possible explanation, yes. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: November 13 2010 at 17:32
If talking "Ooh, Ooh Baby", you have a point , but I don't think anything on DT's debut as good as "Eliphas Levi" or "The Night We Died". I'm one of those who really likes Merci on-the-whole.------------- Just a music fan passing through trying to fill some void. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Various music I am into now: a youtube playlist |
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: November 13 2010 at 17:36
While I can appreciate those songs, I'm never going to choose to listen to Merci over anything else Magma, whereas if I listen to DT it will most likely be the debut. So yeah edit: that barely made sense |
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: November 13 2010 at 17:50
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Otis is fantastic, and I have to thank Greg for spreading it through the forum various times till I finally gave it a go with that cute little kid singing to it. |
Posted By: mahavishnujoel
Date Posted: November 13 2010 at 17:56
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sorry magma fans but my vote goes to dream theater. if it wasn't for them I wouldn't have found out about progressive rock including of course magma. plus they have some really cool moments that appeal to me a little more then Magma's style (even though I love MDK). ------------- Me, I'm just a lawnmower - you can tell me by the way I walk. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: November 13 2010 at 18:00
"Otis" is fun. Merci has two "Otis" parts, and I particularly like part two from the album (an organ piece), but I do enjoy all "Otis"s. Here are some youtube Otis videos: A fairly recent live performance: The much laughed at TV show one: The little girl sing-a-long: And a spoof: ------------- Just a music fan passing through trying to fill some void. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Various music I am into now: a youtube playlist |
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: November 13 2010 at 18:04
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^not only its fun, but its superb r&b or whatever the genre it is. The groove, the atmoshpere and Vander's vocals, it's awesome simple music. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: November 13 2010 at 18:15
It is very good. Merci has some very good groove, R&Bish songs. I also like it very much when Christian Vander sings (a reason I like E-Re so much). Some of the ones where he sings have such great groove such as "Hhai": ------------- Just a music fan passing through trying to fill some void. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Various music I am into now: a youtube playlist |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: November 13 2010 at 18:16
| There is a soul/funk vibe in most of Magma's material that I know. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: November 13 2010 at 18:19
True, a reason I like Magma so much. EDIT: By the way, just because this track for some reason has been so special to me (I love the debut): It's weird ina way that so many bands I've liked I've put aside, but Magma I've never grown tired of (hasn't been many years since I first heard Magma, mind you, but a lot of bands I cared about over the last six or so years have fallen out of favour). ------------- Just a music fan passing through trying to fill some void. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Various music I am into now: a youtube playlist |
Posted By: Anthony H.
Date Posted: November 13 2010 at 19:17
Man, this is even pissing me off, and I'm the one who started the poll.  I started this poll just to see the massive avant-snobbery of the people here, and oh my god is it working.
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: November 13 2010 at 19:20
| So Anthony, who did you vote for? |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: November 13 2010 at 19:20
Bravo, best troll post yet! ------------- Just a music fan passing through trying to fill some void. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Various music I am into now: a youtube playlist |
Posted By: Anthony H.
Date Posted: November 13 2010 at 19:21
DT. ------------- |
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: November 13 2010 at 19:25
Seriously? Oh, knowing that you're a big Zappa fan I would have expected you to vote for Magma. Oh well... you're not a real Zappa fan then... *cough* trolling *cough*
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: November 13 2010 at 19:25
Allright, you can now forget the way to the Shred. You are expelled, young man.  |
Posted By: Anthony H.
Date Posted: November 13 2010 at 19:32
I hate Magma because it's pretty much just the same stuff repeated over and over with really annoying vocals and sh*tty drums. [Trolling] ------------- |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: November 13 2010 at 19:39
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This is the only Magma band Anthony loves: ------------- Just a music fan passing through trying to fill some void. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Various music I am into now: a youtube playlist |
Posted By: Anthony H.
Date Posted: November 13 2010 at 19:42
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I love Magma, but I love DT more. I know, how pedestrian.
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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: November 13 2010 at 19:45
I don't see any avant-snobbery, I see people honestly discussing a band that they love. You're some kind of anti-avant snob, Anthony |
Posted By: Anthony H.
Date Posted: November 13 2010 at 19:47
The trollishness of this poll is even sucking me in! I must cease. ------------- |
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: November 13 2010 at 19:48
| Again, not trolling in the slightest. |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: November 13 2010 at 21:03
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Dream Theater is more popular than Magma, so they have to be doing something right. Maybe that thing could be writing actual songs and not singing gobbledygook over 13th chords any monkey could play. |
Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: November 13 2010 at 21:07
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Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: November 13 2010 at 21:11
Indeed, DT in the fullness of time will barely leave a crease in the Prog pillow. ------------- 
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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: November 13 2010 at 21:56
Justin Bieber is more popular than Tangerine Dream, so he must be doing something right. Maybe that thing could be writing actual songs and not playing gobblegygook over sequencers any monkey could play |
Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: November 13 2010 at 22:17
Prog pillow! Yeah, it's funny, maybe as we move further and further from that decade, people find it harder and harder to digest 80s music, as in the typical cheesy, oversaturated 80s elements (heaven knows there was good music in that decade too). Nevertheless, Magma-ism courtesy chief Kobaian Logan must be in full force now or the DT fans must have disappeared for the voting beggars belief at the moment.  Voted for Magma, btw. I am no avant-snob but I am no prog metal fanboy either. |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: November 13 2010 at 22:29
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Wow, I opened this thread to vote for Magma expecting DT would be ahead, because Magma is not for everybody. As a fact some months ago I would had not voted. But this is a massacre, good for Magma. BTW: This was my entrance to the Magma saga...Fantastic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Iván
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Posted By: Anthony H.
Date Posted: November 13 2010 at 22:44
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I knew that Magma would win this, because I know the people who regularly post on these forums. I don't mind them winning, because the music that they make is incredible. The problem that I have with DT haters is that they for some reason take pride in the fact that they don't like the band, which is the very definition of snobbery. Also, DT are certainly going to be viewed fondly in generations to come. They're one of the bands who helped bring prog into this generation of listeners; you can't deny that, whether you like them or not. Their music is near and dear to the hearts of many people (including myself). If you don't like them, then that's no big deal, but don't insist that there's some sort of objective problem with their music. ------------- |
Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: November 13 2010 at 22:47
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Hmmmmm I really like DT, but I also really like Magma. Actually not sure So different, tough for me to compare head on. Gunna give my vote for Magma by an inch. |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: November 13 2010 at 22:51
| I've heard very little Magma, but for what I've heard on the clips posted here and what I searched on Youtube, I'm pretty sure it's not my thing (well, their were a pair of clips that were somewhat easier to digest than the rest). On the other hand, I really like DT a lot, so that's my vote. |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: November 13 2010 at 22:52
I simply can't understand this position Anthony. If people don't like ELP, Genesis or Yes, hey say it and no problem, why must we keep silent when it's the turn of Dream Theater? And why must we be called DT haters? I just don't like DT at all...Is that being snob? Iván -------------
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Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: November 13 2010 at 22:56
IF technical exhibitionism is not a problem for you, then yes there's nothing wrong with their music. Most DT fans refuse to acknowledge this and yet the Rudess years reek of exhibitionism to my ears and most other people who have this complaint(I really like the Moore albums, speaking of which). And I don't 'discriminate': I don't like Karn Evil 9 as much as I used to because a lot of it now feels like "Look, I am Keith Emerson, the best keyboardist in the history of music" when the much more controlled Dave Stewart could have shown him a thing or two. Likewise, maybe you don't mind a cheesy and overemotive style of singing so much but that is the complaint most people who don't like La Brie's vocals have of his singing. |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: November 13 2010 at 22:58
I agree. It's a fault in my own taste that I don't like Justin Beiber that much, but at least I recognize that. Not as much I can say for Magma fans who apparently value long, female-repellent beards over a good tune. |
Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: November 13 2010 at 23:02
And Kohntarkohz pt-2 does not have melody? It's more gorgeous than DT's cliched AOR/glam-y vocal melodies. And what about Coltrane Sundae? And if it's just about a good tune, why are we all on a prog forum anyway? I am not saying that all prog should be, in the words of Exitthelemming, only the heinously weird, atonal, free-form, balloon animal strangling extremes of modern jazz but prog is about expanding the frontiers of what's possible, right? |
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: November 13 2010 at 23:16
Yet more knee-jerk post-modern sentiments lobbing the cultural relativist view of aesthetics. I'm not entirely convinced that DT represent some sort of 'portal to Prog' for plain vanilla metal fans either. (Oops, apologies for denying what you deem to be self evident - another potted description of snobbery I'll hazard) But let's not quibble, we both know full well that DT invariably polarize opinion and whenever those of us even bother to provide detailed reasons for not liking them, their legions of fanboys reaction is the polar opposite of it 'being no big deal' BTW I don't think you a fanboy Furthermore, why did you choose two bands for comparison purposes that are not even considered to be in the same genre? -------------
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Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: November 13 2010 at 23:40
Both paragraphs are incredibly true.
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Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: November 14 2010 at 00:20
Oh, missed this! No, it is just very amusing to listen to DT fanboys throw a fit whenever their invincible heroes are, even judiciously, criticized. You will no doubt find it hard to swallow this but I don't find much DT hate on PA, except for people like Walter. Talk to metalheads and you will hear them utterly dismissing DT as flower metal w***ers. So, Exitthelemming is absolutely right, they are not really much of a gateway to prog for metalheads because metalheads typically don't subscribe to the DT aesthetic. |
Posted By: mahavishnujoel
Date Posted: November 14 2010 at 00:23
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Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: November 14 2010 at 00:23
I know 7 metalheads who listen to DT. I was one of them, and DT were indeed my gateway to prog. |
Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: November 14 2010 at 00:25
It was a generalized statement and exceptions don't disprove the rule. I can show you many more than, ermmm, 7 metalheads who absolutely dislike DT. The first time I heard DT, I didn't even know they were prog because I hadn't heard of this thing called prog metal. I thought they were some kind of flashy metal music. I already knew some of Genesis/Yes's music and didn't find much similarity between them and DT, sorry!  |
Posted By: TheClosing
Date Posted: November 14 2010 at 00:27
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Magma annoy me more, thus I prefer DT.
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Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: November 14 2010 at 00:28
Its true that more metalheads will dislike them then like them. But I find it holds true that DT still can be a gateway band to prog. As I said, they were for me.
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Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: November 14 2010 at 00:32
Well, if that's what you mean, Magma can never be a gateway prog band. I think Rush, Floyd, Yes and PT are ideal gateway bands (and I am not a huge fan of the last mentioned). DT - I don't know, they polarize people a lot more than any of these bands. It becomes hard to convince people who were turned off badly by DT that prog rock can be a good thing to listen to - *ouch*! |
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: November 14 2010 at 00:50
| Jethro Tull = THE gateway band |
Posted By: Lark the Starless
Date Posted: November 14 2010 at 00:53
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: November 14 2010 at 01:27
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I love the opinions of some members who come to a Prog site: 1.- if you don't like Pop...You are a Prog snob 2.- If you don't like Punk...You are a Prog snob 3.- If you don't like Dream Theater....... you are a snob. But if you don't like Yes, Genesis, ELP, Rush and now Magma, it's ok, you just have good taste. You can't even dare to like Magma more than Dream Theater, because then you are a an Avant Snob (Amazing, because Magma is closer to Wagner and Karl Orff than to Avant Garde). But some years ago DT fanboys bombarded us with hundreds (it's not a figure of speech) of threads saying that Dream Theater was the best band ever, there was a point when all the threads in the main page were about this band, and we had to accept it without saying anything.. Now it's a sin to dislike Dream Theater.....Well, then I'm a sinner, I can't stand more than 5 minutes of their music without wanting to pick my eardrums with rusty nails. Iván -------------
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Posted By: Lark the Starless
Date Posted: November 14 2010 at 01:38
DT isn't THAT bad  -------------
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Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: November 14 2010 at 01:58
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Magma for their indisputable originality! ------------- A Elbereth Gilthoniel silivren penna míriel o menel aglar elenath! Na-chaered palan-díriel o galadhremmin ennorath, Fanuilos, le linnathon nef aear, sí nef aearon! |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: November 14 2010 at 06:38
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The best thing done by Dream Theater is Portnoy joining Transatlantic. Magma are too big to be compaerd with DT. ------------- Curiosity killed a cat, Schroedinger only half. My poor home recorded stuff at https://yellingxoanon.bandcamp.com |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: November 14 2010 at 06:40
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Magma is closer to Wagner and Karl Orff
I subscribe this statement. Carmina Burana gave me the hint on how to listen to Magma's music. ------------- Curiosity killed a cat, Schroedinger only half. My poor home recorded stuff at https://yellingxoanon.bandcamp.com |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: November 14 2010 at 06:41
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and I suggest Carl Orff for inclusion in RIO/Avant.... ------------- Curiosity killed a cat, Schroedinger only half. My poor home recorded stuff at https://yellingxoanon.bandcamp.com |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: November 14 2010 at 06:47
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Dream Theater gets my vote without further comment. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: November 14 2010 at 07:32
Finally this thread has become what it was supposed to be from the very beginning!
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Posted By: Anthony H.
Date Posted: November 14 2010 at 08:01
I know!  Also, Koenjikyakkei = THE gateway band. ------------- |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: November 14 2010 at 08:03
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I must confess you did a good job Anthony! But make sure not to step in the Shred while I'm in there |
Posted By: chrijom
Date Posted: November 14 2010 at 08:43
| No contest - Magma! |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: November 14 2010 at 08:50
I don't believe that Harmonium, people is not trolling despite what Anthony is trying to cause with his statements. Members are just expressing their position without the need of being called snobs. Iván -------------
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Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: November 14 2010 at 08:57
| Flash News: Dream Theater fans are now so secure in their belief that there is no band like DT that henceforth votes against DT will be regarded as trolling. |
Posted By: Anthony H.
Date Posted: November 14 2010 at 10:09
I don't think that a single person thinks that.  ------------- |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: November 14 2010 at 10:12
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Please add a I don't know either of them option in your polls.
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: November 14 2010 at 10:12
I don't know what exactly you expected this thread to be but if you look above Anthony confirmed that this is what he expected the thread to be |
Posted By: JS19
Date Posted: November 14 2010 at 10:13
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I must say I have steered clear of Zeuhl for as long as I could, and apparently for good reason. It sounds just as pretentious, discordant and up its own a** as I suspected. It does, however make me laugh how all the 'die hard' prog fans love Zeuhl. If it didn't exist, some other hocus pocus genre would be dredged up from the depths just so that they could have something to listen to while sneering down their noses at the 'unwashed masses' who listen to the likes of Dream Theater - 'euugh'. ------------- 
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: November 14 2010 at 10:18
Even if you are not totally right about that, I like you for writing it.  |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: November 14 2010 at 10:32
This is trolling...Why can't we like something different that Dream Theater? Now, Zeuhl hasn't been dredged from the depths, it existed decades before Prog Metal was even on plans, and has passed the test of time, something with what DT seems to have problems, they were extremely popular at the beginning, some seem in the path to oblivion... BTW: I don't give a damn for Zeuhl, tried most of the other bands and didn't found anything worth for me, but Magma is an exception, I don't care if it's Zeuhl, Avant, or some weird form of Jazzy Symphonic, I love that band and I shouldn't be having to explain this to DT fanboys that don't accept that there's much more in music than a group of talented musicians (Except LaBrie) who IMO never formed a coherent band. For God's sake, how arrogant can people be Iván
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Posted By: JS19
Date Posted: November 14 2010 at 10:34
Oh no ... I totally respect people who don't enjoy listening to DT. These people are completely different to 'DT Haters'. A 'DT Hater' is someone who heard about a band called Dream Theater, then heard that they were a Progressive band, however on hearing that some people liked them who LISTENED TO OTHER MUSIC THAT WAS NOT PROGRESSIVE  , they decided to exclude them from their beloved genre and hunt down every DT forum topic just to spew abuse at the band that dared to connect prog with (i hesitate to use this word on PA in case several fat, sweaty middle aged men hunt me down) ... m-a-i-n-s-t-r-e-a-m... -------------
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Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: November 14 2010 at 10:43
Pretty much what I was about to post.
He didn't mean that if you don't like DT, you're a snob. He means if you're a DT hater who takes every opportunity to bash them repeatedly, saying their not prog, saying all they do is noodle around with their instruments etc. It's snobbish, it's ignorant, and it's completely unneeded. |
Posted By: Ronnie Pilgrim
Date Posted: November 14 2010 at 10:46
I like Dream Theater - I find their live recordings more enjoyable than their studio ones, for some reason. I feel the same way about Yes. 
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: November 14 2010 at 11:10
Hunt every DT thread? That would be impossible. Our search system only shows 100 threads and stops to search older ones, but I found:
This means 581 Dream Theater related threads in a very limited search, we must have more than 1,000 easily. After this display of fanboyism, do people still protest? Iván -------------
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Posted By: anoblesoul
Date Posted: November 14 2010 at 11:15
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Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: November 14 2010 at 11:18
I love how the point you focus on is an exaggerated one. I also love how you don't acknowledge the fact that this is the case with many popular prog bands. For instance, there are 250 Genesis threads since February 2008. Does that equal fanboyism? |
Posted By: JS19
Date Posted: November 14 2010 at 11:19
hy·per·bo·le A figure of speech in which exaggeration is used for emphasis or effect, as in I could sleep for a year or This book weighs a ton. Anyway, I fail to see what this 'evidence' shows me.. What I'm getting from it is that Dream Theater are a band that a lot of people want to talk about and discuss. Where's the 'fanboyism'? -------------
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: November 14 2010 at 11:27
Genesis is by far the most popular band here, 2 of their albums are in the top 5 and 6 out 0f 7 Prog albums are in the top 100. and been in the market for 41 years..And they have 259 threads since February 2008 Dream Theater is probably the most unpopular Prog band, not remotely as legendary as Genesis, their best positioned album is in N° 35 (Genesis has N° 1 and N° 5)...But still have 581 threads since June 2009, in other words, more than twice threads in 50% of the time. Numbers don't lie. Iván -------------
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Posted By: Anthony H.
Date Posted: November 14 2010 at 11:27
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Honestly, Magma die-hards become butthurt much more easily than DT fans do.
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Posted By: JS19
Date Posted: November 14 2010 at 11:35
There are several things wrong with this post: 1. Their 'status' is completely your opinion 2. DT are at no 35 in the best Prog albums of all time, and your trying to argue that they're 'rubbish' 3. Where exactly is Magma on that list? 3. We never said that Genesis were worse than Dream Theater Engage brain before speaking my friend -------------
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: November 14 2010 at 11:38
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No Anthony, phrases like 1.- Man, this is even pissing me off, and I'm the one who started the poll. I started this poll just to see the massive avant-snobbery of the people here, and oh my god is it working2.- I knew that Magma would win this, because I know the people who regularly post on these forums. I don't mind them winning, because the music that they make is incredible. The problem that I have with DT haters is that they for some reason take pride in the fact that they don't like the band, which is the very definition of snobbery. 3.- Not as much I can say for Magma fans who apparently value long, female-repellent beards over a good tune. 4.- It does, however make me laugh how all the 'die hard' prog fans love Zeuhl. If it didn't exist, some other hocus pocus genre would be dredged up from the depths just so that they could have something to listen to while sneering down their noses at the 'unwashed masses' who listen to the likes of Dream Theater - 'euugh'. 5.- I must say I have steered clear of Zeuhl for as long as I could, and apparently for good reason. It sounds just as pretentious, discordant and up its own a** as I suspected 6.- they decided to exclude them from their beloved genre and hunt down every DT forum topic just to spew abuse at the band that dared to connect prog with (i hesitate to use this word on PA in case several fat, sweaty middle aged men hunt me down) ... m-a-i-n-s-t-r-e-a-m... Are provoking...You wanted a trolling thread and because nobody fell in the game, you started to provoke people. You get what you ask for Iván -------------
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Posted By: JS19
Date Posted: November 14 2010 at 11:42
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