If You’re Older than 40!
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Topic: If You’re Older than 40!
Posted By: akajazzman
Subject: If You’re Older than 40!
Date Posted: November 20 2010 at 16:34
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Progpositivity on a different thread – “who enjoys Progressive music more !?” – made and interesting observation about younger listeners vs older listeners. It got me thinking about us older Prog and music in general lovers. Lets face it, your average 45 year old is not a music nut like us. Moreover, a lot of the people that were really into music with us back in the 70s just aren’t into it anymore. They’re happy to play the same tunes they were playing back in the day, or trite radio pap. Or worse, they turned off the stereo completely years ago. I’m curious, for us older music lovers hanging out at ProgArchives, we’re obviously still into music or you wouldn’t be reading this, so what are your musical habits? Are you still (just) playing those great albums of the 60s and 70s? Are you still as passionate about music as when you were younger? Do you play the older stuff to remind you of better days? Do you listen to the newer stuff? Did you put music aside for a decade, only to rediscover it now that your kids are older and your career is on track? What do you think of Prog metal? Do you feel a generation gap on ProgArchives? Who are your favorite newer discoveries? |
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Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: November 20 2010 at 16:49
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I'm a child of the 50s (I'm 59). I cut my teeth on prog in the late 60s but very few albums from the 60s float my boat - most of my favourite albums come from the first half of the 70s. However, I do listen to a lot of newer music. IQ, Mostly Autumn, Iona, Opeth, Riverside, Anglagard, PT, Spock's Beard (amongst others) get played a lot. I got particularly angry this week when another member accused me of being "sad" for suggesting that some musicians in the 70s (Can and Jamie Muir, to be precise) may not have been very good live. He than grumbled that I had praised Mostly Autumn and referred to them as examples of post 1989 rubbish, The sad thing is that some are stuck in the 70s and think that nothing good is done now. Such a closed mind. ------------- A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life. |
Posted By: MuzikLuva
Date Posted: November 20 2010 at 17:02
| I am more of a child of the 60's (although I was born in 1954) and am 56. I still listen to a lot of the older stuff but also follow Marillion, Opeth, IQ, Porcupine Tree and a lot more. When I'm listening to the radio in a car I prefer the rock of the the late 60's/early 70's as most of what came after the mid 70's got to be very boring and mundane. The progressive movement has broadened greatly over the years and produced some great sounding music. I only hope it continues to grow and that today's musicians try to push the envelope as did The Beatles, Yes, Genesis, Pink Floyd, etc. |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: November 20 2010 at 17:04
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We obviously have some older fans that won't go past the older stuff. I'm 45 and honestly I keep an open ear. At the same time I have built up a large collection and have had to really put the brakes on new discoveries. By no means will I ever stop exploring or dismiss new stuff. The essence of being a prog music fan has always been the exploring for me.
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Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: November 20 2010 at 17:11
| This old guy likes a lot of new music. Its just certain bands, they might be nu jazz, unique metal bands, electronica stuff, acid jazz, post rock, or dub; or it could be something totally different and off the wall. Old music can sound good too, but not anything that has been played on the radio too much. |
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: November 20 2010 at 17:18
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I'm 48 and although I still listen to the classic ELP, Genesis, Crimson, VDGG stuff from the 70's, do like some of the so-called newer stuff (Porcupine Tree, the Gourishankar, Transatlantic, Areknames, Tortoise, NIN) Music however is much, much bigger than the cramped cosmology of prog and I also enjoy a lot of post-punk, european folk music, classical, jazz and even (gulp) Noel Coward and 30's popular music. I also know several prog fans in their 20's who listen only to prog (which really is sad) ------------- 
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Posted By: TheGazzardian
Date Posted: November 20 2010 at 17:24
Sounds like Walter; just ignore him. He's a troll.
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Hercules wrote:Posted By: toroddfuglesteg
Date Posted: November 20 2010 at 17:28
| Is not the average age here around 56 ? That is why the debates on retirement homes and zimmer frames is so fierce in ProgArchives. Everyone have their own personal preferences and experiences in those matters. |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: November 20 2010 at 17:37
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I'm 41, and tend to listen to older prog more, although perhaps surprisingly not much neo prog. I got into prog rock when neo prog was really taking shaoe but it was the music of Genesis, Rush, Yes and Floyd that really caught my attention at the time. Although I did like Marillion and Pallas.
These days I still listen to the classic bands more than anything else. ELP and King Crimson I actually only warmed to in the last ten years. I do like some of the more new prog bands, notably Porcupine Tree (who I think are fantastic) Opeth, Muse, Tinyfish, 90's IQ, and some Dream Theater. I listen to a lot of electronic music, and have done since the early 90's. My avatar should give you some clues to the sort of electronica I like. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: November 20 2010 at 17:46
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Well I'm gonna burst this bubble right now. I'm mid 40s and I'm much MORE musically adventurous than I ever was in my younger days, and as adventurous as many current young people I know. ------------- ...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell" |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: November 20 2010 at 17:55
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I'm continually impressed by the old farts here that are into newer stuff and the young farts that are into the older stuff. Keeps things interesting, you know... The number of young folks who got into prog thanks to one or both of their parent's prog collection are interesting. Makes me feel kind of old and I haven't had children, but I'm pretty sure they would be prog fans. So anyone here have kids that just despise prog or just don't get it? ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted By: Proletariat
Date Posted: November 20 2010 at 18:02
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im not over 40 but am really enjoying reading this thread... and i had a somewhat interesting thought. It seems to me like PA has two main groups of users/fans those over 40 and those under 25, and they each have different views but I think that after progs 15 year slump now there is a comeback even if all sounds arent familiar!!! its an exciting time for prog and young and old alike should be excited to explore the new bands ------------- who hiccuped endlessly trying to giggle but wound up with a sob |
Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: November 20 2010 at 18:17
| I'm 55 (56 in about 5 weeks) and I still listen religiously to early Genesis, King Crimson, Gentle Giant, ELP and Yes. I'm not really into the newer stuff (seems to lack depth to me). I also listen to a lot of 70s fusion (Mahavishnu, RTF, Eleventh House, Weather Report, etc.). I also like old school rap and what I refer to as quality "smooth jazz" (Rippingtons, David Benoit, Special EFX, etc). |
Posted By: mahavishnujoel
Date Posted: November 20 2010 at 18:27
oh! you old people and your rantings!!! go back to your nursing homes!!!  ------------- Me, I'm just a lawnmower - you can tell me by the way I walk. |
Posted By: Xanatos
Date Posted: November 20 2010 at 18:28
| Old skool? Liek notorious big ? |
Posted By: beebs
Date Posted: November 20 2010 at 18:58
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I'll turn 54 in 3 weeks, and I got caught up in rock and prog starting in the late 60's, when my uncle turned me on to Iron Butterfly, The Doors, The Beatles and The Stones. The first albums I bought was everything released by The Doors, and then I caught my first exposure to Yes and The Moody Blues. Later (late high school, college) came ELP, Genesis, Camel, Mahavishnu, Gentle Giant, et al. I also was really into fusion jazz, and ate up everything I could get my hands on. With the 80's, prog all but disappeared completely. In its place, we had disco, punk, new wave, and a host of "one-offs". I listened mostly to Tangerine Dream, but discovered The Fixx, who tided me over for a few years. In about 2004, I discovered this site and other promoting "new" progressive rock, and thanks to the Internet (God's sakes, kiddies....we actually had to "talk" and go to shows and these things called record stores to find out about new bands), I'm listening to many more bands than ever. From Porcupine Tree and The Tangent to Anima Mundi and Ulver, with a universe of great music in between. Prog - in my mind - is more alive and prolific now than ever. ------------- "Nothing is at last sacred but the integrity of one's own mind" * Ralph Waldo Emerson |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: November 20 2010 at 19:34
While we have the image of people in nursing homes listening to Glenn Miller and Nat King Cole, they are just as likely to be listening to The Beatles and Iron Butterfly and recounting the day they saw Jimi Hendrix (born 68 years ago) at Monterey Pop Festival.
Anywho - I'm quite impressed by the number of oldies on this forum who are open and receptive to the modern bands. Then I think that "our generation" (ie those of us who were teenagers in the 70s and 80s) are a little unique in that respect - the generations before and after do appear to be more set in their ways.
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: November 20 2010 at 19:42
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remember that a 45 year old (like me) was a mere tot when albums like Tarkus and TaaB came out.. we had the benefit of growing up during the tail-end of those times, but my generation's actual prog markers were closer to The Wall than to Dark Side of the Moon |
Posted By: GaryB
Date Posted: November 20 2010 at 20:07
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Turned 61 last month and have been into music all my life. Earliest memories are hearing my Dad play his 1949 Gibson acoustic and listening to my parents sing and play gospel songs on the radio.
I was 12 or 13 when the British Invasion hit but I was already listening to guitar oriented music like Duane Eddy and the Ventures. Was into mid-late 60s music and would go to sleep with a transistor radio under my pillow.
1969-71 were my Army years and remember one morning sitting in a club in Da Nang and hearing Frijid Pink's
version of House Of The Rising Sun on a reel to reel.
By the end of the 70s my LP collection had hit 2000 and went to cassettes in the 80s, Ozzy, Skid Row, Mr. Big, Lynch Mob, etc.
With Metal it was Pantera, Megadeth, Metallica, Iron Maiden.
Newer stuff I listen to: Tantric, Drowning Pool, Corrosion Of Conformity, Wolfmother, Kerbdog, Vinnie Moore,
Monster Magnet, Damage Plan.
My kids are 31, 32 and 35 and I turn them onto music.
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Posted By: Thommy Rock
Date Posted: November 20 2010 at 20:46
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Finally, at the tender age of 46, I decided to invest in a 160gB iPod which is now half full with the complete works of King Crimson, Hammill & VdGG, Gabriel & Genesis, Camel, Yes, Zappa etc. including lots of 'new' kids on the block (Tool, Big Big Train, OSI, Porcupine Tree, Cheer Accident and so on), plus various rock albums (Little Feat, Steely Dan, Nick Cave, to name but a few) and essential Jazz and Classical. I wouldn't dream of stopping to listen to good music - even my 21 year old son slowly comes around to my ecclectic taste and is gobsmacked by the sheer variety of music out there. ------------- "Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible" FZ |
Posted By: Single Coil
Date Posted: November 20 2010 at 21:25
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I'd like to take a stab at this, since I'm turning 45 in a few months.
At first, this statement shocked me.... but then I thought about it a bit more. I definately know guys my age that just listen to news or nothing. Perhaps when they got busier in life with kids, they sacrificed music but kept time for sports.... or something.
I still steadily buy CDs. I find a couple new bands every year to "get into". I research, read reviews and listen to samples A LOT before I buy something. I still consider a bands work to be judged as an album, but I listen to "tracks" via MP3 for the convenience.
I dip into the "70's prog rock" collection only once in a while. I mean I love my Yes CDs, but I have heard them SO MANY times. It's not really a nostolgia thing for me, if it's still "in rotation" it's because I still think it's good now for the same reason I did back then. I am into music about as much as I ever was. I still like the feeling of being in an "exclusive club" when it comes to my musical taste. For buying new music, I will just about always buy a new release of one of the bands I "follow". I buy CDs of bands that are new TO ME on a regular basis... but if a band doesn't have 4 or 5 albums out, I consider them unproven and new. LOL
This is exactly what happened to me. I just wasn't aware of what was out there and thought that all the music I liked was just gone. Oddly enough, the first Gordian Knot CD got me searching on the web for stuff, and I found all kinds of newer music I loved. I love prog metal, but it took years for it to grow on me. I remember buying The Odyssey by Symphony X and just considering most of it WAY too harsh. But 8 years later, there is Opeth, Protest the Hero and Mastodon in my collection. Actually Mastodon was another one that I was pretty horrified by at first listen... but I guess there are all kind of bands that have well crafted music, once you get used to them and can hear what they're trying to do. I don't see the generational gap on the Archives, although I'm pretty surprised at the persistance of the 70's prog giants in the Top 10.
Favorite new discoveries are: Anathema, Ayreon, Circle II Circle, Dreamscape, Kamelot, Nightwish, Riverside, Sieges Even and Shadow Gallery ------------- If it's worth playing, it's worth playing loud! |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: November 20 2010 at 21:47
You will have to youthanize me first. Of course then I will be young and I hope the woman who nurses me will have nice breasts. ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted By: cobb2
Date Posted: November 20 2010 at 22:29
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I'm not quite ready for the nursing home, but getting closer every day. Never listen to the old stuff anymore, but I have an insatiable crave for new stuff and new bands. Never listen to the radio- don't need to- how many times can you listen to songs built on a formula that is way past it's used by date (can't the youth of today find their own formula?). The OP is quite right about lack of adventure in most people who are on the downside of maturity. I have often pondered why people get stuck in a musical period they were in somewhere between 20 and 30. I have to shake my head when I see them playing stuff on youtube. They like music, or they wouldn't be playing stuff at work, but I cannot fathom what happens to the brain to make them stop listening to and searching for a new musical adventure. Maybe Smee in Hook summed it up when he described Pan's brain as 'junctified'.
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Posted By: EnderEd
Date Posted: November 20 2010 at 22:33
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>>so what are
your musical habits? Are you still (just) playing those great albums of the 60s and 70s? Are you still as passionate about music as when you were younger? - I'm 50 years old, and yes, I'm still as passionate about music as when I received my first LP at age 5, Herb Alpert's "Whipped Cream". (And yes, I still listen to it, at least once a year I'd say.) >>Do you play the older stuff to remind you of better days? - I listen to old stuff as much as new stuff. Maybe I'm a bit hesitant to play something older, as it usually does "take me back", and that can be a bitter-sweet thing. It seems inevitable that hearing the guitars go back-and-forth between stereo speakers at the end of "What is and What should Never Be" takes me back; or the closing moog lead of "Lucky Man"; or the yells leading into Floyd's "Breath". >>Do you listen to the newer stuff? - Religiously. Over the years my musical tastes have broadened, so now prog rock has to share more listening space with classical music, folk-rock, southern rock, etc. >>Did you put music aside for a decade, only to rediscover it now that your kids are older and your career is on track? - I did in fact but music aside in the 80's. But it's probably more because of the disappointment with Love Beach, Camera Camera, etc., and not wanting to deal with New Wave or Hair Bands. >>What do you think of Prog metal? - Not my druther, personally. But I see its merit. I love Rush and Iron Maiden, and presume this genre is an extension of what those bands started. I guess much of it seems over-produced to me, sonically assaulting, or technically excellent but musically wanting. I don't know. >>Do you feel a generation gap on ProgArchives? - I think so. Although there's nothing wrong with that. Take a band like Floyd. I think that us older fans who heard those albums when they were first released have a different respect "in sitio" for their contribution to rock-dom, that younger fans can never know. But it makes me consider what fans of Beethoven must have thought on their first hearing of Symphony #9 having experienced the release of the previous eight in time. Whoa! >>Who are your favorite newer discoveries? - Glass Hammer, Frost*, Spock's Beard, Anima Mundi, IQ, The Tangent, Riverside, Coheed and Cambria, Motorpsycho, Bjork, Karmakanic... ------------- --EnderEd |
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: November 20 2010 at 22:45
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I'm 49 with one foot in the grave but still enjoying music more than ever. I started getting serious with music in the late seventies(missed the golden age of prog) and it was more the heavier stuff that i was drawn to like RUSH,ZEPPELIN,SABBATH,VAN HALEN etc but also FLOYD,SUPERTRAMP and the like. So the old classics from GENESIS,YES and so on became new to me much later on even though i recognized album covers,titles and certain songs.So for me it's the best of both worlds.I'm not tired of the classics in the least and i love the newer bands too.And i ama big Prog-Metal fan but also Zeuhl,Canterbury and Krautrock. I guess i'm lucky to enjoy a wide variety of progressive music including Jazz/Fusion and RPI etc. And unlike a lot of the older guys i don't enjoy Folk or Proto-Prog that much. ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: November 20 2010 at 22:50
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I'm 53 and even though I enjoy the 70's stuff and still listen to it, I'm quite open to new music, but not all of it. I like Porcupine Tree, The Flower Kings, Spock's Beard, Tricantropus, etc, you get the idea. Not too much into prog-metal, but a lot into fusion and jazz, blues, classical, and neo-flamenco music. I should also add that I prefer progressive music in general, rather than prog rock, even though I enjoy it quite a lot.
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: November 20 2010 at 23:09
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I'm 46, and despite used to believe Prog had died back in the late 90's, with Prog Archives rediscovered the joy of being amazed, love music from each and every decade, from the 60's to the 00's, and happier than ever. Iván ------------- 
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Posted By: JesusisLord
Date Posted: November 20 2010 at 23:31
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50 plus club....Good Prog is Good Prog.....Regardless of the decade.... Love The Court, Sgt. Pepper's, Close to the Edge and Foxtrot, as well as Blackwater Park, Aenima and Back to times of Splendor....Symphonic, Technical etc... Different spices in the cabinet ready to flavor the next meal..... ------------- And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father. Phillipians 2:11 |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: November 20 2010 at 23:37
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I think I am 46....I listen to and enjoy a lot of different genres. I grew up listening to funk and R&B, moved on to rock, metal. I listen to jazz thanks to my wife.....
But I am a prog-head above all else. And yes I do listen to a lot more new than older. -------------   
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Posted By: akajazzman
Date Posted: November 21 2010 at 00:28
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The Prog Generation!
Hey these stories are great. I feel less alone in the world there are others like me out there. I’m 48, and have been a music nut since I was 16. The great thing about getting older has been having the time and money to live through the 70s about three times ;-) But I still love staying abreast of many of the post 70s/80s bands, Prog related favorites being Marillion, Radiohead, Porcupine Tree, Anathema, Mars Volta, Decemberists, Riverside, Oceansize, Spock Beard, and Coheed & Cambria (for starters). · Hercules it warms my heart to read that you’re a fan of those bands! You Rock! · Same with you Muzikluva! Agree, the boundaries of Prog Rock need to be pushed. I think that can be done without it pushing itself into a completely different genre (avant garde, pop, new age, jazz, techno/ambient, etc.). I think of what Mars Volta has done for Prog from the outside looking in, or Riverside from the inside looking out. · Slartibarfast. I hear you on the balance between wanting to continue bring in new stuff with the old. Every new CD I buy, means a little less playing time for the 4000 or so I already own. When it comes to my 18 and 22 year old kids, who are huge music fans themselves, they’re not yet into Prog. It’s a combination of wanting to find their own musical interests (and not Dad’s) and still being a little trapped in the post-grunge/alternative paradigm that informed their ears on the radio. They’re not yet ready for the point that Finnforest makes. · Easy Money, Blacksword and ExittheLemming have open ears for sure. Which segues well to .. · Finnforest, who proclaims that many of us middle agers can be even more musically adventurous than the youngsters. Thank you. I don’t disagree with the basic notion that by and large younger folks are more into music than older folks, but for those of us older guys that were bit by the music bug, the years can be a huge help in getting a perspective on the vast array of music out there (it takes decades to hear the real broad spectrum (Stockhausen anyone?). For me, the more music I hear, the more my ears are able to accept new sounds as valid. · Proletariat. I think you’ve made a very astute observation. I wish there was a demographic breakdown of ProArchives membership, because I too sense this odd but refreshing alliance. · Beebs, nice summary, the internet has opened so many doors for discovery, but I do miss hanging out and chattin’ at the record stores. · Atavachron, you make a very keen point (I’m 48) on how many of us old guys, were still too young for the golden age of Prog. Now a days 7 years is like nothing. But I remember in 1979, 1972 seemed like a “ages ago”. · Gary B! “I’m not worthy!!” · Thommy Rock. Thanks for making me feel old again for not having an iPod ;-) · Single Coil, thanks for taking the time to give us the break down. Your last sentence alone is inspiring! · Cobb, bingo with “I have often pondered why people get stuck in a musical period they were in somewhere between 20 and 30.” My Dad stopped digging music around the age of 24, which was in 1955. So he’s spent his whole adult life pretty much hating Rock n Roll. I swore that would never happen to me. · EnderEd! You’re the older brother I never had! · Mellotron! You capture the fundamental point that we can’t be generalized with “Prog-Metal fan but also Zeuhl,Canterbury and Krautrock” Very Cool · Manuel and Catcher, I think you’re getting at something about most of us Prog/Progressive lovers, and that’s that Prog is not the only thing we listen to. The very nature of the music is going to attract people that love other genres of music. · Ivan, agree, ProgArchives has turned me onto so much old/new music I can’t begin to recount it all. · JesusisLord, seems I need to check out a couple of your recommendations, thanks. This whole discussion makes me feel pretty darn good about my membership in the 40+ ProgLovers Club. |
Posted By: fuxi
Date Posted: November 21 2010 at 04:00
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I just turned fifty, and I'm as excited about exploring new music as ever.
Of my old prog favourites from the seventies, who do I play the most? Probably Yes, Jethro Tull and Pierre Moerlen's Gong, if I'm honest. Which means that I play their best albums about once a year. Other acts' best albums (Caravan, Robert Wyatt, Genesis, Gentle Giant, National Health, the Floyd etc.) probably get once in every two years. At certain times, of course, I feel so good there's a little voice in my head shrieking now you HAVE to play 'Starship Trooper' or 'Gates of Delirium' or 'Firth of Fifth' or THE SIX WIVES or ONE SIZE FITS ALL. I am never disappointed. Perhaps you wonder why I don't play such music EVERY DAY? Well, first of all there's so much jazz and classical stuff it has to compete with. I'm still exploring the oeuvres of my faves from the ECM stable (Jarrett, Weber, Towner, Metheny, Holland, Burton, Wheeler etc. etc.) and, much to my delight, most of those oeuvres are still expanding. At the same time I'm a classical music nut; I'm especially into the French baroque and all kinds of harpsichord music. And let's not forget there's so much "conventional" rock to enjoy: from Rickie Lee Jones and Richard Thompson to Los Lobos and Kirsty McColl. But I agree with many previous posters that prog is still vibrantly alive: Anekdoten and Big Big Train are just two of the many bands that prove it. Thank heaven for Progarchives, which guided me there... |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: November 21 2010 at 04:19
 
As someone slowly approaching the 50's, I might have less time to devote to music than some teenage kids with too much time on their hands (I envy them, because time is THE mosty precious commodity when you reach the 40's, and we lack it
 ), and I may be very disillusioned about the music ,,, but that doesn't make me less a music nut like those prematured ejaculation virgins (just kidding, of course )It just happens that I don't listen much to the 70's classics for two reasons:
1- I know them by heart and don't feel the need to replay them and to bow and kneel down when I listen to them
2- since I know them so well, I might as well listen to other stuff I still don't know (right now, a lot of early 60's jazz) and find great classics among them... I also explore plenty of newer stuff (90's & 00's), but I find few of them actually really as worthy as those classics.... but maybe in 10 years, from now it'll be more obvious to me
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Posted By: akaBona
Date Posted: November 21 2010 at 05:11
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53 years at the moment, what a fine age this is! life in finland in early 70's was so different than it is now. only 2 hours rock music in radio/week, you had to wait for new albums several extra weeks re western europe to get them to finnish record shops. my first own records included Fragile, Close To The Edge and Lark Tongues In Aspic, so my direction was right from the start! but it was not only prog music. also folk, fusion and heavy metal. we were totally open minded those days. when you look back you realise that many of classic albums, folk - fusion - heavy - prog etc. were new albums when you first time heard them, whether you think about Yes, King Crimson, Genesis, Van Der Graaf, Pink Floyd, Canterbury Scene, Mahavishnu, Beggar's Opera, Jethro Tull, Gentle Giant, Magma, Incredible String Band, Steeleye Span, Fairport Convention, Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, Roy Harper, Kevin Coyne, Wailers ... the list goes forever! It was a priviledge to live in those days, if you think about all the music which was published in those days ;) nowadays i just don't have enough time for music. i have a business to run, lots of other activities. but every day i try to listen few records. yesterday they were Gentle Giant's Octopus and Porcupine Tree's In Absentia. today, when the guests have left my house, probably some Zappa and KBB. usually all this happens when rest of the family is already sleeping. truth is that i need music, my days are not complete without. radio is not enough ... I still buy cds', about 50 per year. including fusion, prog and few classical ones. will never stop. i saw marcus miller month ago, have tickets to steve lukather ;). In september in new york i saw Magma in highline ballroom, and that was a fantastic concert. so i try to hang on ... ;) the love of music is still there. my ears don't care about decades, every good music has it's own place in this cycle! |
Posted By: Darklord55
Date Posted: November 21 2010 at 07:07
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Turning 56 in a few weeks. Listening to the old stuff goes without saying. But I don't remain in the past. I enjoy the new bands and try to keep up with the times for most of the progressive genres. Opeth has taken over the #1 spot as my favorite band. Porcupine Tree is a close second. I also listen to Tech, Death and Black metal. And keep up with these bands as well.
I also listen to classical music and basically listen to the more well known composers from the Baroque to the Modern times. I also enjoy early choral music.
I also explore the jazz realms. Miles Davis and John Coltrane are among my favorites. I listen to a lot from the ECM label and explore jazz from the Scandinavian countries.
I refuse to be stuck in a rut. I loathe most of the music they play on the "Classic" rock stations. What a joke. I have never been able to get into Country or Rap music. That about sums it up. Cheers!
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: November 21 2010 at 07:09
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I'm 53 and have been listening to Pop music since I was born, it has been the soundtrack to my life: Radio Luxembourg, pirate radio such as Caroline and Veronica, John Peel's Perfumed Garden, Top Gear and the Sounds of the 70s all shaped the kind of music I loved; Psychedelic Pop was the real revelation for me - the first two albums I bought were Kaliedoscope (A Tangerine Dream), The Move (s/t) both from 1968; I was a teenager through the 70s and by the time I got to University I owned 600 albums... which by today's standards doesn't sound like much, but at the time it was an achievement; many of those were European bands like Tangerine Dream, Amon Duul II, Can, PFM, Focus and Le Orme that arrived in England in the early 70s like a culture shock - it's music Jim, but not as we know it.
I have been an avid collector ever since and haven't stopped listening and buying new music, for me there has never been a low point in music eventhough I have strayed from the Prog-path at times, including long detours into New Wave and Gothic Rock in the 80s and 90s, there was always something Prog or Progish to buy during those times: Pendragon, Marillion, Mansun, No Man, Peter's Gabriel and Hammill, Steve Hackett, John Cale, Radiohead, Savatage, anything Phil Manzanera or BEno touched and through that period I was always been loyal to Floyd - Lapse and Division Bell, Radio KAOS, Amused To Death, Broken China are great albums that I regularily play.
Metal has always been on my playlist - Sabbath and Purple, Saxon and Maiden, Metallica and Megadeth, Paradise Lost and Anathema, My Dying Bride and In The Woods..., Mayhem and Emperor, Bathory and Celtic Frost, Opeth and Katatonia, Craddle Of Filth and Dimmu Bogir. A lot of what is considered Prog Metal for me was just Power/Symphonic Metal - Symphony X, Dream Theater, Threshold, Spocks Beard were bands I listened to and loved before I arrived here - to discover that they were called Progressive was a minor shock, but not one that I disagreed with, there was certainly something that elevated those bands above all the stereotypical Power Metal bands I didn't like.
Over the past 15 years I've been hooked by Tool, Ulver, Neurosis and The Tribe, Sigor Ros, Muse, Kayo Dot, Porcupine Tree (and all things Wilson), Pain Of Salvation, Ayreon (and all things Luccassen), Riverside, Carptree, Coheed and Cambria, Biffy Clyro, Mew, Kayo Dot & maudlin and The Dear Hunter along with lesser known artists like Splene Arcana, Immune, If and The Noun.
Tomorrow I'll indulge in my guilty secret and buy Danger Days: The True Lives of the Fabulous Killjoys.
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Posted By: trackstoni
Date Posted: November 21 2010 at 07:11
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a brief conclusion about this post , and why i did it at the first place ! there wasn't any kind of music controlling my emotions when i was 14 , the first double album i've got was for the Beatles . it was ok for me until certain limits . in 1970 , i bought Supertramp ( first album ) to use it in a special dancing party ! but it wasn't a dancing stuff . but for God sake i've paid 12$ for this album and can't give it back . this specific album was my intro to prog.rock music . Fruupp ( future legends ) Jonesy ( keepin' up & no alternative ) etc . from 1970 till 1981 i had about 5000 vinyl records ( all prog . except for some good stuff ( blues , jazz & classical ) all my albums was converted to mp3's now , and i'm so glad that during my trips as a pilot( specially to Europe ) i was able to discover new bands & new dimensions .
i know how to play guitar & keyboard , but i don't , cause when i play i don't enjoy the music i like ! now i'm 57 , i still enjoy all my records , and play em all accordingly . at the end , what i want to say < i believe it's a state of mind if you really enjoy prog. music , musician or not , flat or stoned , it's the same ! i simply enjoy progressive , even if sometimes before , i wasn't able to understand the lyrics , long ago before the net > Quoted from my thread < who enjoys progressive !?> ------------- Tracking Tracks of Rock |
Posted By: ergaster
Date Posted: November 21 2010 at 07:14
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Well now what fun. I am 53 and came of age musically in the early to mid 70s (when I was able to buy my own music). I first heard Floyd around 1972, but it wasn't until well into high school that I got really immersed in "prog" (not called that then of course) through a lot of friends who worked at Records on Wheels on Yonge Street (any old Torontonians may remember that place.... ). Anyway that's where the prog love really took off, along with folk-rock. I'd have to say that prog and Steeleye Span (say) were equally revelatory at the time. Generally I guess my tastes are a little broader than prog--the music I liked best has always been music that demands attention from me. It has never functioned as background or wallpaper, and perhaps is one of the reasons I don't actually listen to music relentlessly--when I put on stuff I like, I can't do other stuff very well, because I am forced to listen. As far as habits...I like bits and pieces from all eras. My main love is 70s prog and suchlike because the best of it remains the best in the genre, but I also love quite a bit of 80s alt stuff as well--Shriekback, especially their JamScience and Oil and Gold albums are right up there with the best of anything I have ever heard. I loved Japan, Simple Minds, some Stranglers, Peter Blegvad's The Naked Shakespeare, Anthony More's Flying Doesn't Help, and Johnny Warman's Walking Into Mirrors are all absolutely stunning albums that don't get much attention. I have nothing against a well-constructed and intelligently composed pop song either. Lots of those over the years that are well worth listening to, from all eras. I even think that Eminem is a pretty fine poet (though I don't much listen to hip hop or rap, but his stuff can be outstanding). However for many years my music was a matter of sampling newer stuff and relying on the older 70s and 80s stuff for consistency. Lately I've been immersing myself in the genius of Steven Wilson though--this man makes me very very happy because he has managed to do something I didn't think could be done any more--to return me to the sheer astonished excitement that my initial discoveries of prog and folk and prog-related (Enos solo stuff, Wyatt, some others) brought me. I've only been at that for less than a year. Thank goodness for vast back catalogues..... ------------- We have done the impossible, and that makes us mighty. Captain Malcolm Reynolds Reality rules, Honor the truth Chemist99a R.I.P. |
Posted By: ergaster
Date Posted: November 21 2010 at 07:25
Well I have kids, one is 22 and the other is 11, and while I wouldn't say they despise prog or love it either, they (at least the older one) perhaps have somewhat wider tastes than others of their age. My eldest has been going through a 60s phase. I'm working on the 11-year-old. She at least understands the compositional difference between, say, Harmony Korine and some Justin Beeb crap.... ------------- We have done the impossible, and that makes us mighty. Captain Malcolm Reynolds Reality rules, Honor the truth Chemist99a R.I.P. |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: November 21 2010 at 07:41
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Posted By: ergaster
Date Posted: November 21 2010 at 07:59
One thing about kids, they do seem to become their own people, don't they? Exposure is the key. They may never love it, but by god they are going to know what it sounds like. It's all you can do as a parent. ------------- We have done the impossible, and that makes us mighty. Captain Malcolm Reynolds Reality rules, Honor the truth Chemist99a R.I.P. |
Posted By: GaryB
Date Posted: November 21 2010 at 08:15
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My three kids were born between '74 and '78 (my wife and I didn't have cable TV). Even though they grew up hearing (not listening to, there's a difference) my music they did not start liking it until they heard it in movie soundtracks. TV commercials and movies kept the 60s and 70s music alive for years. One of my sons asked me one day about the song that was playing while Bruce Willis was hitting golfballs off the oil rig (Armageddon). I explained to him that it was La Grange by ZZ Top and was practically an anthem in the late 60s anf early 70s. After that he started paying more attention to songs from movies. I discovered Drowning Pool while watching a movie (I think it was Boondock Saints). BTW, my five year old granddaughter Ava loves the CD "1" by the Beatles and insists on hearing it every time she gets in my car. Ticket To Ride and Help are her favorites. |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: November 21 2010 at 08:22
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Posted By: rdtprog
Date Posted: November 21 2010 at 08:26
| I am still playing my old favorites of the 70's but mostly it's new stuff. I enjoy discovering bands that plays music that have similarity to those of the 70's. I must say that i only got 2 or 3 bans that i am still listening over and over again in my cd player and those bands are : Rush, Genesis and Yes. |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: November 21 2010 at 08:27
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I'm thinking as long as it's available and your kids like music it's only a matter of timing. Some music just clicks with you at certain times and some things that people will play for you or say man you've got to try this doesn't always make the magic. Even for me the big prog head it has always been so.
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Posted By: yanch
Date Posted: November 21 2010 at 08:37
Good thread for us "oldies." I'll address the thread and Slarti's good point. First at 51, I have and still am a music lover. I was brought up with the classic prog kings-KC, Tull, Yes, Genesis, ELP, etc. and listen to them with some regularity-even went to see Ian Anderson live last night. But I also have searched regularly for newer prog to expand and keep my collection fresh and interesting, and have found bands like Marillioin, IQ, RPWL, Riverside, Tool, Spock's Beard, Transatlantic, 5 Bridges, Porcupine Tree and many others. I enjoy these newer bands tremendously and it has given me a wide selection to listen to. As for kids, I have a 21 year old and a 17 year old and I am happy to say that both my kids can appreciate much of what I listen to. We have gone as a family to see Rush and Tool and they really like Porcupine Tree. They may not listen to what I listen to when with their friends, but they will pick things from they my ipod when we are driving places. Interestingly, most of my sons friends can't stand what I listen to and have made comments about the weird s*#t their dad is playing. I think if the parents weren't playing prog around the house, kids don't get into it because they never get exposed.
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Posted By: zappaholic
Date Posted: November 21 2010 at 08:51
43 here. Always been a music lover. Still listening to stuff that most of my peers won't touch with a 39-1/2 foot pole. Course I've been attributing it to the fact that I've never gotten married or had kids - in other words, I forgot to grow up.  ------------- "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard." -- H.L. Mencken |
Posted By: Marlon
Date Posted: November 21 2010 at 09:38
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Posted By: Hawkwise
Date Posted: November 21 2010 at 09:57
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I am 50 years long and sad to say that modern recorded music does nothing for me what so ever. but lucky for me there so much music from the past i have yet to here and that means still lots of new music for me, so i guess you could say all music is new if you have not heard it before no matter when it was made. just so happens i like music from the 50s 60s and 70s the most, very rare that i would here any recorded music from today that i find i like. Just don't like the sound out if. Bu i am still adding lots and lots of lovely Vinyl to my already huge Vinyl collection, oh and the occasional CD to but they will be from the 50s 60s and 70s . ------------- 
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Posted By: caretaker
Date Posted: November 21 2010 at 10:11
| I'm 56 and was pretty much stuck in the 70's until I found you guys. I never thought I was much of a metal head but.... |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: November 21 2010 at 10:51
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I would seriously encourage a lot of those limiting their exploration to the older stuff to at least sample some of the newer stuff. Of course there is plenty from the golden age of prog to keep you occupied if you only want to dwell there.
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Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: November 21 2010 at 13:39
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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: November 21 2010 at 13:48
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45, and listening to more new music than ever before, whilst still dewy eyed about the old classics. Life is a blast, and so is the music ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time! |
Posted By: johnobvious
Date Posted: November 21 2010 at 14:02
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45 and listen to almost all new stuff. My old stuff is on cassette and album and I have no way to play them that is convenient. And I would rather buy something new than invest in something I have heard dozens of times already. The thing that really has me depressed is that I have a ton of CD's but no time to listen to them. I am always looking for new music but unless something is a slam dunk that I just have to have, I have stopped buying. I just tell myself I have at least 50 CD's that I could pull out that have barely seen the light of day that I would enjoy listening to instead. Or some older CD's that I haven't played in years that need to be revisited. Wife + kids + short commute to work = no time for music. And by short commute, I'll give you an idea. My car is almost 10 years old (bought new) and just turned 60,000 miles. ------------- Biggles was in rehab last Saturday |
Posted By: silverpot
Date Posted: November 21 2010 at 14:08
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I'm 56 and music was my main interest in the sixties and seventies. It
all started with The Beatles of course, but then came The Moody Blues,
Pink Floyd, Genesis, ELP, Yes...I didn't know it was prog though. In the eighties I lost contact with new music, life got in the way, and I've been feeding on my oldies until about five years ago, when I suddenly felt I really needed to pick up this interest again. Now I'm lurking around on forums like this to find some new stuff to listen to. Not only contemporary bands but also lots of music I missed back then, like Gentle Giant for example. It's a very interesting place this and I'm grateful for the input from you all. I've become a Porcupine Tree and Tool fan lately, they don't seem to be that popular with most of you, but I think they're great.
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: November 21 2010 at 14:16
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I am 51 now and I became aware of prog for the first time in 1972 at the age of twelve, when prog was in its heyday. Now some of my favourite songs at that time were prog or at least prog related. I started to listen to Pink Floyd and Yes. Soon after came Camel, Genesis Tangerine Dream a.o.
In the 90's I became less involved in music. I got married, became father of a daughter and had other focuses.
In the fall of 2004 I discovered PA and my interest in music was kindled again. In the last few years I have discovered new bands and artists as well as bands from the seventies I did not pay attention to. ------------- 
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Posted By: Heathcliffe
Date Posted: November 21 2010 at 15:36
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I'm 53 and unashamedly Living in the Past...
Tull,Zappa,ELP,Curved Air etc. As well as non-prog - Stones,Cocker,Cat Stevens,Joni Mitchell,Buffy Sainte-Marie,Sabbath.... 
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Posted By: slipperman
Date Posted: November 21 2010 at 15:54
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41 years old. To answer your questions: >>Are you still (just) playing those great albums of the 60s and 70s? still playing the '60s and '70s albums, but got into many of them in my 30s, and playing lots of '80s, '90s and '00s stuff as well, prog, heavy metal and otherwise... >> Are you still as passionate about music as when you were younger? Yes, but in a different way. >>Do you play the older stuff to remind you of better days? I play it because it's still awesome. >> Do you listen to the newer stuff? Prog rock-wise, there's not much in the vein of the old '70s bands that's better than that, and I never got into the neo-prog sound, so I guess not, although I love bands like Porcupine Tree, 3, Radiohead, etc. >> Did you put music aside for a decade, only to rediscover it now that your kids are older and your career is on track? no kids. Never waned in my love for music, although I don't necessarily need to stick to prog to love music. But prog is always there, whether it's prog rock, prog metal, or whatever... >> What do you think of Prog metal? I very much like metal that is "progressive," but I don't like any band that tries to sound just like another one (ie. the way Vanden Plas sounds a lot like Dream Theater...not for me, personally) >>Who are your favorite newer discoveries? My newer discoveries are older bands who have more of a pop thing going on: Talk Talk, Split Enz, even Cheap Trick. Still love King Crimson and Holy Terror, so it's just a matter of always expanding. GREAT THREAD!!! ------------- ...it is real...it is Rael... |
Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: November 21 2010 at 16:13
It was indeed he, though I have no idea what a troll is - except for a mythological Scandinavian creature, and I doubt if he's one of those. ------------- A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life. |
Posted By: TODDLER
Date Posted: November 21 2010 at 21:01
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I am 53 years old and can no longer listen to King Crimson, Yes, Genesis, Pink Floyd, Procol Harum, or ELP. Maybe twice a year but that's it. I am even burned out on Steve Hackett, Gentle Giant, Curved Air, and Pulsar. Omega and Ange too and most of these European underground prog bands I grew up listening to as a teenager. So yes! there is quite a seperation between me and them. I find myself listening more to National Health, Egg, and a few Brand X titles. Stomu Yamashta, Jade Warrior, and Popol Vuh are still favorites. Sometimes I go through phases were I listen for 2 weeks worth of artists on the Celestial Harmonies label. For maybe 3 days I will listen to nothing but Mexican Electronic artists like Jorge Reyes, Jose Fernandas, or Alquimia or maybe Berlin stuff like Klaus Schulze, Tangerine Dream, later Brainticket and loads of others. I have hundreds of cd's.
Sometimes I will drink good wine and spend the evening listening to Krautrock. Then I will dismiss everything mentioned above and spend a few weeks listening to Frank Zappa, The GTO'S, Captain Beefheart, The Residents, Throbbing Gristle, Charles Mingus, Miles Davis, John Coltrane, and John McLaughlin. Then I spend a weekly period listening to Avant-Garde 20th Century composers Varese, Cage, Crumb, plus,....a lot of American electronic artists from the 60's like Wendy Carlos, Ruth White, Mort Garson, Beaver & Krause, and Terry Riley (don't know where he hails from?) etc. Then it's Mike Oldfield and David Bedford night and sometimes my favorite film score in the world "The Day The Earth Stood Still" by Bernard Hermann. I greatly enjoy Conventum and Harmonium from Canada, Goblin and PFM, from Italy and Univers Zero and Art Zoyd etc. The list never ends. I have many traditional folk recordings. Fairport Convention, Steeleye Span, Pentangle, John Renbourn etc. Modern American folk like Sara Hickman, October Project and the weirdness of Nick Drake. I have hundreds of Blues cd's ranging from the Delta style to Chicago. Howlin' Wolf, Son House, John Lee Hooker, and Robert Johnson and so many more. British Blues I greatly enjoy also. The Yardbirds, Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac, Climax Blues Band, John Mayall, early Rolling Stones, Rory Gallagher, even the Free albums which are harder edged. I never liked Ten Years After but, I love the early Jethro Tull. Also Paul Butterfield, Mike Bloomfield, Canned Heat, and the early Johnny Winter. I can go from Jazz or Blues to Classical music in a heartbeat. I suddenly might desire to hear one Bella Bartok piece and just continue listening to his music for the rest of the night. Of the newer prog bands today....I love White Willow and Karda Estra. I also listen to crossover bands of the 70's like 10CC and Supertramp. I like The Beatles and The Kinks and the bizzare Smile album from The Beach Boys. Friends in the past have asked me "How can you go from one style to the next?" or "It makes no sense whatsoever" I guess I'm a freak however, it doesn't seem un-natural does it? I mean.....is this too out of bounds or is it common? I love music. |
Posted By: Bea
Date Posted: November 21 2010 at 21:13
no - in fact - I want to come listen to albums with you - with a few good bottles of wine. 
just not the Gristle k? I know I'm missing a boat hear - but I just don't get it.  ------------- "I Asyvw Rnxawcfbo Tohtrf Eaksp Allemnga Irthem Andq Nofqubj Eroamatt." |
Posted By: Any Colour You Like
Date Posted: November 21 2010 at 21:25
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Phew! This thread has taken off... but it may need some bottles of oxygen soon. And a stroller, or twelve. |
Posted By: TODDLER
Date Posted: November 21 2010 at 21:32
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Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: November 21 2010 at 22:15
| 60 years old. I will listen to anything on this site. What was I saying? |
Posted By: Bea
Date Posted: November 21 2010 at 22:52
yay! ------------- "I Asyvw Rnxawcfbo Tohtrf Eaksp Allemnga Irthem Andq Nofqubj Eroamatt." |
Posted By: cobb2
Date Posted: November 22 2010 at 00:48
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After reading all this I have had a bit of an epiphany about my observations of peers and oldies who like prog (of whom I don't personally know any). Proggies were trained early to search for new music (this was even harder before the digital age- endless trips to records shops etc), while the greater masses of music fans (the U2, Bon Jovi lovers) had it fed to them through the media, so they never learned how to search. So, the searchers were more open to music they had never heard and this becomes a life long trait, while the spoon fed, non-searchers, were left listening to music that they could no longer relate to- commercial music is, after all, written to target the youth. Does this make sense?
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Posted By: mystic fred
Date Posted: November 22 2010 at 01:41
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At 57 my new music appreciation level is fast approaching saturation point, where "modern"music including Pop and Prog really give me the feeling i've heard it all before, though Muse turned out to be something of a revelation and burst out into to the mass market, and The Mars Volta were a new sound but very few have even heard of them.
I am always interested to listen to new stuff, though difficult to add to the several hundred bands i'm already into - sometimes i'd rather concentrate on the ones i've got, there are just not enough hours in the day...
Modern Pop music uses the same structures and simple phrases it has always done since the 50's, I would rather listen to the early stuff not clones, Prog still borrows heavily from the old guys, everything seems to go round in circles and no sign of any breakthrough new sound so far...in the 60's every year introduced totally new sounds and styles, these days everything just goes round in the tumble dryer...
 "New" music has to jump out and bite my ass before i really take notice of it, there are a lot of good new bands around, but i'm still busy catching up on the old ones i missed !
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Posted By: valravennz
Date Posted: November 22 2010 at 05:00
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I'm 55 and have been a fan of prog since...well it's inception back in the late 1960's. I love listening to the Bands of the "classic" era, but as I am a music fan who is open to new directions in prog music, I have become quite enamoured with the later offerings over the last 10 years. I was excited to discover groups such as Porcupine Tree, Glass Hammer, Nightwish and Ayreon. This lead me to Progarchives and further exploration of bands that I previously had no idea existed and genres that I had paid little attention to, for example, Kraut Rock, Progressive Metal, Zeuhl and Canterbury. I really love the way, Prog Rock has captured the attention of younger fans, that I have met through this site and how it has once again spurred the interests of "oldies" like my-self, whose vision of Prog rock music was becoming a bit staid and purely 70's focused. I can only see good things for my favourite music and I will continue to explore it for the foreseable future. ------------- 
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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: November 22 2010 at 05:04
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Mid 40s and have loved prog for years. My experience with prog has made me into a decent writer too about the subject. So thats my obssession now in my older years translated onto a forum. Who saw that coming? I am amazed at where this has taken me and delighted to share some of my passion with like-minded people.
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Posted By: yanch
Date Posted: November 22 2010 at 06:00
Yes! This does make sense!
 Sites like PA and CDBaby, etc. have allowed me to find music that I never would have been exposed to. A little time spent searching has become more interesting music to enjoy! |
Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: November 22 2010 at 06:17
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I'm 47 years old & about 35 years into my music appreciation.
Music has always been a huge part of my life & I hope will continue to remain so; my all time favorites will remain (I guess) the classic prog albums of the 'classic' years of the 1970s, but I am always open to new music & still discovering. Prog & (to coin a phrase) classic rock will always be my favorite, but electronica, psy-trance, classical, opera, jazz, world, folk all have their places on my iTouch & are played regularly - although I do have to say, the band which keeps coming back again & again on the iTouch (especially in the car, where I can listen as loud as I like) are System Of A Down WHOOOOAAARRRRGH!!!! (etc) Latest discovery? Rodrigo y Gabriella marvellous!
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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: November 22 2010 at 06:21
| What's an iTouch? Sounds like an MP3 player for pervs... |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: November 22 2010 at 06:27
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: November 22 2010 at 07:05
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I'm 49 and have been a prog fan since I was 13, however I listen to lots of other music genres as well (as long as it's not country). I listen to a fair bit of "old"prog (Yes and Genesis etc) but also lots of new stuff (Tinyfish, Manning, Transatlantic, Opeth etc).
It struck me at a recent Genesis tribute gig that fans of this type of music (at least, fans of the original albums) are now in their 50s and 60s (and more), so I reckon prog is the new classical.
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: November 22 2010 at 07:32
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I look forward to the day when we're all in the retirement homes & instead of local do-gooders coming round in the afternoon with their acoustic guitars & singing old music hall songs, instead we get Genesis tribute bands dragging dusty Mellotrons into the dining room just before the nirses come around with the drugs trolley -------------
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: November 22 2010 at 07:45
time for the obligatory Stackridge cover pic:
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: November 22 2010 at 08:21
I look forward to the nurses coming round.
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Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: November 22 2010 at 08:27
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I'm 44 and I stay a music lover although unfortunately I can not dedicate as much time or energy to music as I did when I was younger. I try to stay open to new music although I must admit that for the most part what I like the most remains around my comfort zone of symphonic, fusion, heavy rock, eclectic, RPI... things like Spock's B, Neal Morse, Karmakanic, TFK, Beardfish, Simon Says and stuff like that, and sometimes leaning to a bit more alternative such as PT, The Mars Volta etc. I'm not into avant, post-rock, electronic or excessively experimental music though. As for Metal I like the most symphonic corner of it, quite some DT, Ayreon, Pain of Salvation, Shadow Gallery and so on, but not too extreme (and I could not get comfortable with growlings yet...). In terms of listening minutes I would say that currently I listen to more modern prog that 70's, simply because every new albums takes quite some listens to get to know it, while revisiting a classic takes just one listen. But I still listen regularly to 70's and 80's albums, there are so many that very few of them get played more than once in 2 years or so. Even if I find many interesting things in the new prog I must confess that I'm one of those who (at the risk of generalising) when it comes to pure inspiration and brilliance I still think that the classics have the edge. |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: November 22 2010 at 08:42
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I'm nearly 64 - cue song - but many clues to my popular musical tastes can be found at:
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51952&PN=99&title=our-own-dick-heaths-alt2-radio-show-returns - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51952&PN=99&title=our-own-dick-heaths-alt2-radio-show-returns
and the mix of tracks on random play coming found my 80 gig IPod today (which has less than 10 complete albums
on it): 1. Alan Pasqua: Wicked Good (ex. The Anti-social Club)
2. Peter Banks: Swamp Report (ex. Instinct) 3. Primus: Camelback Cinema (ex. Brown Album) 4. Michael Shrieve: Sam The Man (ex. Fascination) 5. Herbie Hancock: Mercy Street (ex. The New Standard) 6. The Chambers Brother: Time Has Come Today (ex. The Time Has Come) 7. Sloan: She Says What She Means (ex. A Sides Win) 8. Joe Cocker: Delta Lady (ex. Mad Dogs & Englishmen) 9. Eric Clapton: Reconsider Baby (ex. From The Cradle) 10. The Fourth Way: The Sun & Moon Have Come Together (ex. The Sun & Moon Have Come Together) 11. Starcastle: Shadows Of Songs (ex. Citadel) 12. Dissident: Black Swan (ex. Dead Line) 13. Trio Beyond: Spectrum (ex. Saudades) 14. Cliff Richard & The Drifters: You're So Square (ex. Cliff!) 15. Don Ellis Orchestra: House In The Country (ex. The New Don Ellis Band Goes Underground) 16. Omar & The Howlers: I'm Wild About You (ex. Courts Of Lulu) 17. Abraxas Pool: Szabo (ex. Abraxas Pool) 18. Kevin Coyne: Marjory Razorblade (ex. Marjory Razorblade) 19. Elliot Freedman Group: Trajectum (ex. The Elliot Freedman Group) 20. Wishbone Ash: Phoenix (ex. Wishbone Ash) 1. Pallas: Arrive Alive (ex. The Sentinel) 2. Jon Hassell: Brussels (ex. The Surgeon Of The Nightsky Restores Dead Things) 3. Specimen 37: Helix (ex. The Endless Looping) 4. Conrad Schrenk & Extravaganza: The Air Of December (ex. Save The Robots) 5. Kollective with Jonas Hellberg: Bold (ex. Kollectiv) 6. King Crimson: Lament (ex. Starless & Bible Black) 7. Duster Bennett: I've Go To Be With You Tonight (ex. Jumpin' At Shadows) 8. Van Morrison, Lonnie Donnegan, Chris Barber: Midnight Special (ex. The Skiffle Sessions) 9. Kimara Sajn: Aila's Song (ex. Life Stories) 10. Mouse On The Keys: Seiren (ex. An Anxious Object) 11. Robin Trower: Chase The Bone (ex. 20th Century Blues) 12. David Byrne: Girls On My Mind (ex. Hanging Upside Down) 13. Stanley Trio with Hiromi: Solar (ex. Jazz In The Garden) 14. Joe Satriani: Midnight (ex. Surfing With the Alien) 15. Mats Morgan Band: Not Us (ex. Thanks For Flying With Us) 16. Dr Z: Evil Woman's Manly Child (ex. Time Machine) 17. Le Grand Nebuleux: Manali (ex. Les Pirates Du Cortex) 18. John Surman: The Wizard's Son (ex. Private City) 19. Fragment 37: Fugue In C (ex. Kitchen Sink) 20. Surinder Sandhu/Steve Vai: Children Of The Sand (ex. Saurang Orchestra) Basically I continue to listen out for new music that literally progresses (definitely a challenge today compared with 1969-1972), whilst I only dip back to listen to a few favourites from the distant past of traditional progressive music (and pop). ------------- The best eclectic music on the Web,8-11pm BST/GMT THURS. CLICK ON: http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php - http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php Host by PA's Dick Heath. |
Posted By: friso
Date Posted: November 22 2010 at 09:08
| I'm 22 and I only listen to late sixties and seventies prog. I simply can't get into modern prog since I really love the sound of vinyls and the seventies sound. My parents didn't influence me at all in becoming a proggy. I downloaded Arena's Contagion due to a metal-magazine and slowly grew into the classic prog after downloading (as a leap of faith) the KC debut. I now own over 300 vinyls of prog and prog-related. It has become my major hobby next to playing guitar. |
Posted By: TODDLER
Date Posted: November 22 2010 at 09:08
I had a few drinks at a local gathering of adults age 40 to 60. I was asked what kind of music I listened to and like a fool I said Hatfield and the North. This guy turned and asked...."Hatfield and the North?" Who's that? Bobby Hatfield from the Righteous Brothers and Jay North from Dennis the Menace? I thought well..the world hasn't really changed all that much has it?
Greenslade? What's that? A crayon company? Prog is such a far away conversation unless, you run into fanatics at Nearfest. Some people in the past have asked me..."But Aren't you living in the 70's? So all the emphasis in dealing with bozo's like this is put upon a time period which a musical style derived from. This is a shrude mentality. You have to consider the source and walk away. But, being 53, you would somehow think maybe people have grown up by now? I have to admit that it surprises me. Like the bully that picks on you in school, grows a little, tells you he is sorry and becomes your friend for life. You might assume that life could be that way in many senses. Like,...I used to make fun of band's like King Crimson but, now that I'm older, maybe I should bend an ear and see if I didn't miss out on something. But guess what? Most people do not think that way about music. It's truly a stupied way to think and feel. People like this are closing off the educational aspect to music. Yet, they refuse to do that with sports. In sports they know all the ball players names, all their moves, history etc. From this particular example of a breed of people you can gather that the average individual in society does not live and breath music as a whole. So,..I'm 53 and still crossing paths with people who are questionable on the subject and present foul attitudes. It's best to remain alone and have no dealings with anyone in particular. |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: November 22 2010 at 09:42
Hey, you're not older that 40, let's beat him up. ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: November 22 2010 at 09:48
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Posted By: Hawkwise
Date Posted: November 22 2010 at 09:49
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: November 22 2010 at 10:04
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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: November 22 2010 at 10:14
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I'm 48 and since when I listened to Echoes and Atom Heart Mother I've been looking for music able to give me similar feelings. My first prog album has been Trilogy and the second Aqualung (after purchasing a stereo). In the 80s I loved Marillion and I stopped in the 90s when I got married. Only because I used my money to pay the mortgage instead of buying music. Now I'm happy to "research". I like early 70s psychedelia as well as bands like Ayreon (and Lucassen's side projects), Spock's Beard, Mostly Autumn. This morining I went at work listening to Senmuth and I have recently rated 5 stars the Xing Sa debut. So even though I'm always happy to relisten to the 70s classics I like looking for new stuff (or obscure old stuff). I'm sure that nobody will care about what I have written because it is longer than 10 words, so I can write whatever I want... ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: akajazzman
Date Posted: November 22 2010 at 10:40
Cobb, I think it makes perfect sense, and I think its by-and-large true. The folks that I know that only listen to radio, or worse, nothing at all, were never musical searchers. They basically took what was spoon fed them.
Another interesting – but related -- point, is this thread shows *just* how musically interested Prog lovers stay well into their 60s, and not just for Prog but for all types of music. Not that this was the crux of the argument critics made against Prog back in the day, but the implication back then was that Progsters were stogy old dinosaurs with no vitality. This thread shows that we’re still kickin hard, and that the music we loved back then is a new inspiration to many youngsters today!
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Posted By: Bonnek
Date Posted: November 22 2010 at 11:14
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I'll be 40 in two months so I probably don't count yet for this thread. In the early 80s I was prog-fed by my older brother and then quickly moved on to post-punk, metal, indie, kraut, techno, fusion,... well anything, as long as it has personality, ideas and good execution. In 30 years I haven't changed my passion nor my criteria really, and I don't expect to slow down enjoying the good old tunes and discovering new ones anytime soon. |
Posted By: GaryB
Date Posted: November 22 2010 at 11:25
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I was a radio listener in the 60s but was definitely a searcher in the 70s. There was a lot to consider when searching for new bands. As I flipped through the rows of miscellaneuos LPs I would look at the covers more than the titles. When something caught my eye, I would turn it over and look for familiar names of band members, producers and even engineers but you also have to look for guest musicians. I would check out what instruments each member played and song titles. If the titles contained a familiar cover song, you might get an idea of the type of music the band was influenced by.
These days with the interrnet, this could all be done in about five minutes.
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Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: November 22 2010 at 11:35
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Coming up to 49 and still finding new stuff to enjoy - I've always gone for the more experimental side of prog (and jazz, post punk and numerous other genres) and I hope I never stop picking up on and getting into music that pushes some kind of envelope.
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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: November 22 2010 at 11:38
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I used to love pouring over album sleeves reading the lyrics and credits. Now I don't bother, the writing on CD inserts is too small for my ageing eyes. Those 60s and 70s albums felt like something substantial and certainly "serious" rock bands put a lot of time and effort into the design, many were works of art. Friends, or should I say the older siblings of friends, were my chief source of recommendations followed by the radio, Sounds/Melody Maker music papers and the odd TV show. We would share music then, in the form of cassette tapes, just as people do now and it never seemed to harm the bands. That said we would always go out and buy the albums we liked and support those bands. Nowadays many people just download and never buy hard copies. Shame really. |
Posted By: Hawkwise
Date Posted: November 22 2010 at 12:46
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Posted By: Hawkwise
Date Posted: November 22 2010 at 12:46
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Posted By: jammun
Date Posted: November 22 2010 at 12:47
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I grew up listening to the 60's/70's music. It was a magic time. These days, I try to listen to music being made currently, but just as often find myself going back, to Bob Wills and Western swing,and to the bands of the 30's and 40's. This stuff:
http://www.angelfire.com/biz/STLBookFair/bandleaders.html - http://www.angelfire.com/biz/STLBookFair/bandleaders.html
It all sounds like a Merrie Melodies cartoon. Throw in a little Count Basie and it's good.
Procol's Broken Barricades should be showing up in the mail today.
My problem or actually probably disease is that I love music. I love to listen to it. I love to play it. I love the beautiful symmetry of a those keys on a piano or that fretboard on a guitar. It's been a lifelong sickness of sorts since I was old enough to hear it and my mom bought me my first record player, say 55 years ago. I destroyed a lot of records. The cassette player ate a lot of tapes. And through it all I listened and played. Still doing it. ------------- Can you tell me where we're headin'? Lincoln County Road or Armageddon. |
Posted By: ergaster
Date Posted: November 22 2010 at 14:48
I like to think we old farts have somewhat longer attention spans. I could be wrong, though.... ------------- We have done the impossible, and that makes us mighty. Captain Malcolm Reynolds Reality rules, Honor the truth Chemist99a R.I.P. |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: November 22 2010 at 15:00
Dagnabbit!! The young whippersnapper ran off. You kids stay off our lawns!!!  ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: November 22 2010 at 16:42
I could've said that till recent;y. Bummer. I still listen to most of the stuff I listened to growing up, and more fusion, plus newer prog acts (though I can't get into stuff like PRR).
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Posted By: Bitterblogger
Date Posted: November 22 2010 at 16:49
As long as they're female. . .
This relative old fart (53) has a special place in his heart for the golden era prog bands, and I'll always appreciate Yes, my personal pioneer, and I find that my musical enjoyment is split among bands from that time, newer prog (Porcupine Tree and Radiohead are currently being explored; I usually do an immersion with only a couple at a time to get good exposure), jazz (all kinds except "smooth"
) and classical (not the well-known established masterpieces, but the lesser known works by the old masters and newer faces).My daughter is 20 now, and she's found a little in the Prog era she enjoys (apart from humoring me), but as for every generation, she's into bands from succeeding generations more. But she adores Billie Holiday, and the Coasters, so she'll be a generalist like her old man. . .
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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: November 22 2010 at 17:01
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Posted By: akajazzman
Date Posted: November 22 2010 at 17:26
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Everyone, thanks so much chiming in so fast. We went to 5 pages in just a couple of days. I’ve been re-reading everyone’s comments a few times, since there’s a bit of a life story in all these summaries. And I can relate to so much of what y’all have said. A couple of enlightening moments for me in this stuff. 1) I don’t feel as old as I used to, we’ve got a 65 year "young" gentleman rockin’ the house! 2) us older dogs (that are still into music) are not just as musically adventurous as the youngsters but can be, and often are, more adventurous. Our ears have had years to attune to all sorts of musical shapes and colors. 3) old dogs aren’t afraid of some pretty heavy shredding. We’re not your typical “turn that noise down” style codgers! But we may be a little leery of some Prog-metal when it gets “samey” sounding. In turn, my 18 year old is always telling me to turn it down so he can hear his damn video games. Of course that just bugs me, so I crank it louder! …. Some things never change! |
Posted By: progpositivity
Date Posted: November 22 2010 at 17:42
I'm 47 with a 13 year old son. Almost ever since I can remember, he has constantly joked with me as though he hates Progressive Rock. But as he has grown older, more and more often I catch him watching Genesis videos on Youtube or listening to music from my collection!
It was almost as though he had been subconsciously testing me to see whether I would become some type of tyranical authority figure or not. Kids really need to develop their own sense of identity and the last thing they want is their parents to dictate to them what is "good" and "bad" in music.
The biggest difference I find is that he isn't as "wired" for music as I am. He's much more "multi-media" and "user-interactive" minded than I am when it comes to music.
I suspect that there are some roots pointing toward a "generation gap" here. For example, about one year ago, one of the "20-something year old" workers I supervised, upon discovering that I was really into music, asked me the following questions: "So... you go to a concert and just sit there and listen to people play music? What else do you do while you are there? Isn't that boring?"
He was really into video games and it genuinely seemed to me as though he was straining to figure out where the "interactive element" was. If there had been a way for him to vote in real-time about whether he wanted the tempo to speed up or slow down, he might be pursuaded to give the whole idea a chance. Or if there was going to be a story acted out on-stage with special effects on a huge screen, then perhaps that could interest him. But just people on a stage playing music? He didn't seem to think that would hold his attention.
That is an extreme example, of course. Many younger listeners like music without video and without interactive participation. But I do think there is often something akin to a generational division of perception lurking here.
Hmm... Come to think of it, in this regard, games like Guitar Hero have become very successful inter-generational communication tools! ------------- Positively the best Prog and Fusion 24/7! http://www.progpositivity.com |