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Topic: ELP "Tarkus"
Posted By: richardh
Subject: ELP "Tarkus"
Date Posted: May 08 2004 at 04:48

I've always wondered if this album would be more highly regarded if it just included the 'suite' and the rest was ditched?! You get nearly 25 minutes of inspiration and that should be enough for anyone shouldn't it? Keith Emerson's mastery over the




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Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: May 08 2004 at 06:27

Agree entirely Richard. I mentioned in my review of the album that most people who own the LP will have a worn out side one, and a pristine side two. 

The "Tarkus" suite is for me the best thing they ever did, better even than "Karn Evil 9"



Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: May 08 2004 at 09:55
Their best album, closely followed by BSS. But does anyone of you heard the epic song "Pirates", it is to my mind one of the best songs they ever wrote.

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Posted By: Alexander
Date Posted: May 08 2004 at 12:51
Side one is fantastic. Side two is plauged with filler. Though I do like a Time & A Place...

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Posted By: Bryan
Date Posted: May 08 2004 at 14:29
The suite is indeed one of the greastest accomplishments of ELP's existance.  The rest is indeed complete crap.


Posted By: diddy
Date Posted: May 08 2004 at 18:54
I love this album so much...it also was my first ELP record and my introduction to the band...
 
I think that The Tarkus Suite is one of the best suites in the whole prog-genre. The second side...well...sometimes I like it

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Posted By: Fitzcarraldo
Date Posted: May 09 2004 at 07:39

richardh, I, like you, think that Tarkus is underrated. If I could only keep one ELP album then it would be Tarkus, without having to think about it. In my opinion it is a 5-star album, a prog rock masterpiece, and would be one of my desert island



Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: May 09 2004 at 14:45
[QUOTE=Fitzcarraldo]

richardh, I, like you, think that Tarkus is underrated. If I could only keep one ELP album then it would be Tarkus, without having to think about it. In my opinion it is a 5-star album, a prog rock masterpiece, and would be on



Posted By: Fitzcarraldo
Date Posted: May 09 2004 at 16:33

I put the CD on this afternoon, just to see if everyone's comments might have 'opened my eyes' but, no, I still think all the tracks are excellent. Are You Ready Eddy is just a bit of fun at the end of the album, but that's fine by me. I'



Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: May 09 2004 at 16:48
[QUOTE=Fitzcarraldo]

I put the CD on this afternoon, just to see if everyone's comments might have 'opened my eyes' but, no, I still think all the tracks are excellent. Are You Ready Eddy is just a bit of fun at the end of the album, but

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Posted By: maani
Date Posted: May 09 2004 at 23:30

I like and respect Tarkus less for itself than for the fact that it produced what I consider the single greatest live recording: the Tarkus suite on Welcome Back My Friends.  It is the most amazing, well-recorded, spine-tingling live version of a p



Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: May 10 2004 at 02:40
[QUOTE=maani]

I like and respect Tarkus less for itself than for the fact that it produced what I consider the single greatest live recording: the Tarkus suite on Welcome Back My Friends.  It is the most amazing, well-recorded, spine-tingling liv



Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: May 10 2004 at 06:26

Originally posted by lucas lucas wrote:

But does anyone of you heard the epic song "Pirates", it is to my mind one of the best songs they ever wrote.

I am still looking forward to hearing from you.



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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: May 10 2004 at 14:53
Originally posted by lucas lucas wrote:

[QUOTE=lucas] But does anyone of you heard the epic song "Pirates", it is to my mind one of the best songs they ever wrote.

I am still looking forward to hearing from you.

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Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: May 10 2004 at 15:40
Not too keen on "Pirates" myself, there's a bit too much of the Andrew Lloyd Webber/Tim Rice's, and not enough of the Karn Evil 9's!


Posted By: Dan Bobrowski
Date Posted: May 10 2004 at 16:16
I remember "Pirates", but not enough to really comment. I'll dig it out and let you know.


Posted By: Fitzcarraldo
Date Posted: May 15 2004 at 15:52

lucas,

I dug out Works Vol. 1 and listened to Pirates, and have to say I agree with Easy Livin. It's pleasant enough, but it sounds to me a bit like the background music for a National Geographic documentary, and I found some of the lyrics a bit



Posted By: bityear
Date Posted: May 15 2004 at 19:13
I'm with the majority here, the "Tarkus" suite is probably some of ELP's very finest work. I rarely find it boring, and it's one of my favourite side-long-or-more classic prog epics. Songs like Close To The Edge, Lizard, Thick As A Brick, Karn Evil 9, Tale

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Posted By: Fitzcarraldo
Date Posted: May 16 2004 at 00:38
Do it, bityear! It would be an interesting discussion too.


Posted By: Bryan
Date Posted: May 16 2004 at 00:50
On a semi-related note to the Piares discussion, before I was into ELP I found both Works volumes at a used record store, but bought Vol. 2 because it was a dollar cheaper and I had no idea which one to go with.  *Slaps self in face*


Posted By: philippe
Date Posted: May 16 2004 at 04:54
An interesting and complex album...it's just that I can't bear the songs...above the average

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Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: May 16 2004 at 07:19
Philippe, something completely different: what is that picutre in your signature? It looks artistic!


Posted By: philippe
Date Posted: May 16 2004 at 08:53

It's a work made by an artist from the fluxus movement...it's possibly J.Beuys invention



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Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: May 16 2004 at 09:09

J. Beuys? I'm sorry, never heard of him...

but I like that picture!



Posted By: philippe
Date Posted: May 16 2004 at 13:42

This guy is a MONSTER OF MODERN ART!  Strange that you've never heard something about him



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Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: May 16 2004 at 13:51

Philippe, I HAVE heard of him...  (stupid me ) that name just didn't look familiar..

this picture did:



Posted By: philippe
Date Posted: May 16 2004 at 14:02

sorry guy...but I just don't remember the site...

A note for 'Tarkus': 6 / 10...great instrumental parts but songs are just too pop. I can't bear the voice and melodies of the singer.



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Posted By: moonchild
Date Posted: May 17 2004 at 10:14
[QUOTE=richardh][QUOTE=Fitzcarraldo]

richardh, I, like you, think that Tarkus is underrated. If I could only keep one ELP album then it would be Tarkus, without having to think about it. In my opinion it is a 5-star album, a prog rock masterpiece

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Posted By: Cesar Inca
Date Posted: May 21 2004 at 17:03

 

HI, THIS IS C+SAR INCA.

The suite 'Tarkus' is one of the greatest compositions in prog rock (and rogk in general) history. granted and unidsputed. But... we mustn't forget that, unlike KC or Yes, the funny, frivolous num



Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: May 22 2004 at 12:55

Good to see people sticking up for side 2 of the album even if I personally had a go at it! I still think it comes across as 'filler' or a case of 'after the Lord Mayor's Parade'.Why couldn't they have done Tarkus Pt2 and put it on side 2 ?? The answer




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