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Topic: Violin in ProgPosted By: Earendil
Subject: Violin in Prog
Date Posted: December 12 2010 at 20:10
Does anybody have any recs for violin-driven prog? I'm thinking of more in a rock than an overly symphonic setting.
Replies: Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: December 12 2010 at 20:15
Hard Rock and Prog in a perfect balance with the violin assuming the lead role along with keyboards.
Iván
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: December 12 2010 at 22:40
The David Cross era of King Crimson has violin (ofcourse), but it is more like part of the sound than a leading instrument. Perhaps on some songs it has a more important role. I particularly like the live version of Starless, where the violin takes the main theme of the first part of the song (I feel that theme was made for being played with violin instead of guitar).
Posted By: Garion81
Date Posted: December 12 2010 at 23:12
I agree with Ivan but any of these albums would fit the bill:
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Posted By: martinprog77
Date Posted: December 13 2010 at 02:07
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
Hard Rock and Prog in a perfect balance with the violin assuming the lead role along with keyboards.
Iván
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Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: December 13 2010 at 03:07
This entire album is string driven for the most part, and it's http://www.maudlinofthewell.net/downloads.html" rel="nofollow - absolutely free.
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Posted By: yanch
Date Posted: December 13 2010 at 06:14
Dixie Dregs. Plenty of violin on all of their albums. The interplay between violin and guitar on much of their work is terrific.
Posted By: The Runaway
Date Posted: December 13 2010 at 06:24
Posted By: maani
Date Posted: December 13 2010 at 10:50
There are two I can think of. For prog-jazz, try Michael Urbaniak, arguably the best jazz violinist ever. His album, Atma, is a good place to start. Also, After Crying is an instrumental prog band that features cello, violin, trumpet and piano. Their album Megalozottak is excellent.
Posted By: EGE YURTUM
Date Posted: December 13 2010 at 15:57
High Tide - Simon House drives those records with some very unique and very noisy violin... he's a good few decibels lower with Hawkwind......
Posted By: Mushroom Sword
Date Posted: December 13 2010 at 15:59
King Crimson's Red (album).
Posted By: akaBona
Date Posted: December 13 2010 at 16:16
KBB from Japan. Excellent band. VDGG Vital
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: December 13 2010 at 16:31
I was going to mention the Dregs and Kansas, but I didn't think they
were really "violin-driven" though the violin is or was integral.
Jean-Luc Ponty fits in more with that term. His mid 70's solo stuff is
superb.
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Posted By: Varon
Date Posted: December 13 2010 at 17:14
A very good Van der Graaf's album "The Quite Zone/Pleasure Dome"
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Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: December 13 2010 at 17:35
"Like Children" - Jerry Goodman & Jan Hammer
Posted By: Lozlan
Date Posted: December 13 2010 at 18:01
Curved Air's first three albums make excellent, extensive use of violin in a rock capacity. Also they are just plain masterpieces.
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Posted By: Tychovski
Date Posted: December 13 2010 at 18:44
Mahavishnu Orchestra
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: December 13 2010 at 21:22
EGE YURTUM wrote:
High Tide - Simon House drives those records with some very unique and very noisy violin... he's a good few decibels lower with Hawkwind......
And his solo stuff as "Spiral Realms" where the music is treated so heavily to effects that it is actually hard to listen to at times. He also plays a lot of violin with Hawkwind -- best use of it is in "In the Hall of the Mountain Grill" and then "Astounding Sounds Amazing Music". Simon also doubles as the keyboard/synthesizer guy and oftens plays both at the same time when the synth sound is sequenced.
Others (out from the top of my head):
Graham Smith with VdGG/Peter Hammill
Graham Smith with String Driven Thing -- worth every moment of it!
Darryl Way with Curved Air -- shame on you for asking! Punishment is all three versions of Vivaldi with Cannons back to back full blast until you repent!
Jean Luc Ponti and others with Frank Zappa
David LaFlamme with It's a Beautiful Day
--- forget her name -- sorry --- the lady that passed away that played violin with Par Lindh -- she was better than him or the band!
Anekdotten has a violin, does it not?
PFM - Lots of violin in the earlier days
Banco also has violins and other instrumental pieces but they are all over the music, not exemplified as we prefer to in the "rock music" context
Amon Duul 2 has so much violin that no one listens to it! And it loves to duet an electric guitar ... and very well too! But it might be considered too proggy because it doesn't have that "anglo-american" sound! The way the violin is used here is different, because it is also soloing almost all the time right next to the guitar, and I think this confuses people's musical minds when they think that you can only hear one thing during a "solo" ... but what if it is NOT a solo, but a part of the music? ... Yeah ... !!!!
And ... I'm sorry ... I would rather listen to Charlie Daniels, or Doug Kershaw than have to live through a Kansas album again! At least you get some honesty and down home feeling in the music that is not pretentious or pleads to be something that one is not in my book!
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Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: December 13 2010 at 21:32
The polish group BELIEVE does a good job with this. Their player Satomi is excellent I liked what the German group Pell Mell did too, although I guess that was more classical The Canadian group FM used electric violin
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: December 13 2010 at 22:16
Mushroom Sword wrote:
King Crimson's Red (album).
By the time they released that album, David Cross had already left the band (or rather, asked to leave), and thus there are no violins in it except for one live improv track (which I particularly don't even like).
Posted By: ClemofNazareth
Date Posted: December 14 2010 at 14:17
Here's a few that haven't been mentioned yet:
The Flock
Mago de Oz
A Silver Mt. Zion
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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: December 14 2010 at 14:26
Espers
Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: December 14 2010 at 14:29
Garion81 wrote:
I agree with Ivan but any of these albums would fit the bill:
You forgot Ragsdale's contribution, and if the OP is looking for more rock than symphonic, this is where it's at:
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: December 14 2010 at 16:11
kenethlevine wrote:
The polish group BELIEVE does a good job with this. Their player Satomi is excellent I liked what the German group Pell Mell did too, although I guess that was more classical The Canadian group FM used electric violin
FM ... and Nash, the Slash ... same guy.
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Posted By: cloviskoba
Date Posted: December 14 2010 at 20:36
Great name is Eddie Jobson!
Historic rock passages with Zappa and Jethro Tull
Posted By: Prog Geo
Date Posted: December 15 2010 at 06:27
Spirogyra has used violin in some songs.It's a great prog folk band.
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: December 15 2010 at 07:15
enjoy
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Posted By: pied piper
Date Posted: December 15 2010 at 09:58
Most of you spoke about KC's David Cross or VDGG / String Drive Thing's Graham Smith, to say nothing of the smart (but over rated) Robby Steinhardt.
But apart from Curved Air's Darryl Way / Eddie Jobson who are gifted musicians, IMHO, the best prog fiddler ever is Ray Shulman of Gentle Giant.
Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: December 15 2010 at 19:51
Vertu (Lenny White, Stanley Clarke, Rachel Z, Richie Kotzen & Karen Briggs on violin)
Posted By: jean-marie
Date Posted: December 16 2010 at 10:33
Dave Arbus from EAST OF EDEN , he's great on baba o riley from the WHO
Posted By: jean-marie
Date Posted: December 16 2010 at 10:37
And i'm thinking about joachim reiser from WALLENSTEIN ,have a listen to COSMIC CENTURY and SONGS,STORIES and SYIMPHONIES
Posted By: Formentera Lady
Date Posted: December 16 2010 at 11:50
The violin is the showcased instrument on all tracks.Their album "Day and Night" is superb.
I fail to see the greatness in this band...
Just a case of different strokes for different folks,Lucas.
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Posted By: Lozlan
Date Posted: December 21 2010 at 19:17
I forgot to mention Pell Mell. Amazing and little-known German (and, admittedly, symphonic) band featuring Thomas Schmitt, one of the most astonishing violinists I've ever heard in prog. Check out their debut album Marburg: it's currently the worm in my ear, and features some pretty virtuosic playing. Also it most certainly rocks.
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Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: December 21 2010 at 19:39
TheProgtologist wrote:
lucas wrote:
TheProgtologist wrote:
Two excellent Japanese bands where the violin is prominent.
Posted By: Anthony H.
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 09:33
progkidjoel wrote:
This entire album is string driven for the most part, and it's http://www.maudlinofthewell.net/downloads.html" rel="nofollow - absolutely free.
This.
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 11:25
Gentle Gant uses a lot of ciolin on theirf albums. the first album of the German band Aera, "Hand und Fuß", has a lot of violin on it. Darryl Way's band Wolf is full of violin on all three of their albums. Clearlight's albums "Vision" and "Le Conte du Singe-Fou" feature Didier Lockwood on violin. their second album "Forever Blowing Bubbles" features David Cross of King Crimson on violin. Gong's "Shamal" has Jorge Pinchevski on violin in 4 of the 6 tracks.
there is a lot more which just doesn't come to my mind right now; I have to check our collection
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Posted By: thehallway
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 11:47
Exactly!!!! I expected to find his name all over this thread!
Esperanto is also very hard rocking:
and how about Jethro Tull with Eddie Jobson?
Edit: you can also check out the setlist of the prog violin special I did at my radio show: http://deliciousagony.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3768&sid=a3c5df4a4fb8a3535a9a7be04079448e" rel="nofollow - http://deliciousagony.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3768&sid=a3c5df4a4fb8a3535a9a7be04079448e
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Posted By: Matthew T
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 14:17
jean-marie wrote:
Dave Arbus from EAST OF EDEN , he's great on baba o riley from the WHO
Now that is good violin in Rock aaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwesome actually
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Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 14:29
Posted By: Jörgemeister
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 15:20
New Return to Forever reunion without DiMeola but with Ponty! ( i dont know if instead of DiMeola or just as an extra instrument) either way is gonna be awesome.
Posted By: Tengent
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 15:46
Jean-Luc Ponty + Zappa.
I know Fred Firth played violin throughout his time with Henry Cow, but I never liked the timbre of his violin. :(
Posted By: Lizzy
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 15:53
A Person wrote:
Orrrrrrrrrrrrrr....
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Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 16:02
^Can we just post the whole album?
Posted By: Lizzy
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 16:04
A Person wrote:
^Can we just post the whole album?
After you.
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Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 16:07
Lizzy wrote:
A Person wrote:
^Can we just post the whole album?
After you.
Oh no, you first.
Posted By: ProgressiveAttic
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 16:17
New Return to Forever reunion without DiMeola but with Ponty! ( i dont know if instead of DiMeola or just as an extra instrument) either way is gonna be awesome.
It's with Frank Gambale on guitar.... really amazing lineup + they are writing new material!
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Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 17:43
New Return to Forever reunion without DiMeola but with Ponty! ( i dont know if instead of DiMeola or just as an extra instrument) either way is gonna be awesome.
It's with Frank Gambale on guitar.... really amazing lineup + they are writing new material!
OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!11
EXTREMELY high hopes with this one!
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Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: December 28 2010 at 14:31
cloviskoba wrote:
Great name is Eddie Jobson!
Historic rock passages with Zappa and Jethro Tull
Don't forget him in the amazing first UK album.
The Dixie Dregs have already been mentioned and as it seems the OP is mostly looking for the rock side of things I think they are essential for him to check out. Specially recommended the live BRING 'EM BACK ALIVE and the studio WHAT IF.
Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: December 28 2010 at 21:04
Not to forget Magma! What would their first live album be without the great Gidier Lockwood on violin (who was only seventeen years old at the timne of recording)? And how about some of the live albums of Peter Hammill? "There Goes the Daylight" and "Veracious" both feature Stuart Gordon on violin.
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Posted By: earlyprog
Date Posted: December 29 2010 at 05:16
Posted By: zwordser
Date Posted: January 04 2011 at 01:33
Well, I know it's only one song, but the violin solo in Losing It (Rush, Signals) is the highlight, and one of the best I've heard. It was by guest Violinist Ben Mink.
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Posted By: goertz
Date Posted: January 04 2011 at 03:18
Don't forget:
MAGMA and Didier Lockwood in the "Hhaï" live album from 75
Franck Zappa in the 70's with Jean Luc Ponty (especially the King Kong album) Sugar Caine Harris and Eddie Jobson
UK: with Eddie Jobson
Allan Holdsworth himself played some violin in his early albums (I think I.O.U)
The french group ATOLL in his 2nd album "L'araignée mal" has some good violin
David Rose and his excellent album "Distance between dreams"
Darryl way's Wolf group
ZAO and Yoshk'o Seffer albums
Posted By: dwadziescia
Date Posted: January 04 2011 at 13:05
Dirty Three.
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: January 04 2011 at 14:43
Don and Dewey / Mr. Barnum Jr.'s Magnificent And Fabulous City - Alquin. No further comment needed.
Verde por Dentro - Alejandro Matos. Ends with a beautiful violin solo ( http://www.progarchives.com/mp3.asp?id=4702" rel="nofollow - click here to listen ).