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Topic: Violin in Prog
Posted By: Earendil
Subject: Violin in Prog
Date Posted: December 12 2010 at 20:10
Does anybody have any recs for violin-driven prog?  I'm thinking of more in a rock than an overly symphonic setting.



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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: December 12 2010 at 20:15


Hard Rock and Prog in a perfect balance with the violin assuming the lead role along with keyboards.

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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: December 12 2010 at 22:40
The David Cross era of King Crimson has violin (ofcourse), but it is more like part of the sound than a leading instrument. Perhaps on some songs it has a more important role. I particularly like the live version of Starless, where the violin takes the main theme of the first part of the song (I feel that theme was made for being played with violin instead of guitar).


Posted By: Garion81
Date Posted: December 12 2010 at 23:12
I agree with Ivan but any of these albums would fit the bill:










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Posted By: martinprog77
Date Posted: December 13 2010 at 02:07
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:



Hard Rock and Prog in a perfect balance with the violin assuming the lead role along with keyboards.

Iván
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Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: December 13 2010 at 03:07

This entire album is string driven for the most part, and it's http://www.maudlinofthewell.net/downloads.html" rel="nofollow - absolutely free.


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Posted By: yanch
Date Posted: December 13 2010 at 06:14
Dixie Dregs. Plenty of violin on all of their albums. The interplay between violin and guitar on much of their work is terrific.


Posted By: The Runaway
Date Posted: December 13 2010 at 06:24
Gentle Giant! But only in their first four albums

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Posted By: maani
Date Posted: December 13 2010 at 10:50
There are two I can think of.  For prog-jazz, try Michael Urbaniak, arguably the best jazz violinist ever.  His album, Atma, is a good place to start.  Also, After Crying is an instrumental prog band that features cello, violin, trumpet and piano.  Their album Megalozottak is excellent.


Posted By: EGE YURTUM
Date Posted: December 13 2010 at 15:57
High Tide - Simon House drives those records with some very unique and very noisy violin... he's a good few decibels lower with Hawkwind......

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Posted By: Mushroom Sword
Date Posted: December 13 2010 at 15:59
King Crimson's Red (album).


Posted By: akaBona
Date Posted: December 13 2010 at 16:16
KBB from Japan. Excellent band.
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: December 13 2010 at 16:31
I was going to mention the Dregs and Kansas, but I didn't think they were really "violin-driven" though the violin is or was integral.  Jean-Luc Ponty fits in more with that term.  His mid 70's solo stuff is superb.

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Posted By: Varon
Date Posted: December 13 2010 at 17:14
A very good Van der Graaf's album "The Quite Zone/Pleasure Dome"

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Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: December 13 2010 at 17:35
"Like Children" - Jerry Goodman & Jan Hammer
 


Posted By: Lozlan
Date Posted: December 13 2010 at 18:01
Curved Air's first three albums make excellent, extensive use of violin in a rock capacity.  Also they are just plain masterpieces.

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Posted By: Tychovski
Date Posted: December 13 2010 at 18:44
Mahavishnu Orchestra

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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: December 13 2010 at 21:22
Originally posted by EGE YURTUM EGE YURTUM wrote:

High Tide - Simon House drives those records with some very unique and very noisy violin... he's a good few decibels lower with Hawkwind......
 
And his solo stuff as "Spiral Realms" where the music is treated so heavily to effects that it is actually hard to listen to at times. He also plays a lot of violin with Hawkwind -- best use of it is in "In the Hall of the Mountain Grill" and then "Astounding Sounds Amazing Music". Simon also doubles as the keyboard/synthesizer guy and oftens plays both at the same time when the synth sound is sequenced.
 
Others (out from the top of my head):
 
Graham Smith with VdGG/Peter Hammill
Graham Smith with String Driven Thing -- worth every moment of it!
 
Darryl Way with Curved Air -- shame on you for asking! Punishment is all three versions of Vivaldi with Cannons back to back full blast until you repent!
 
Jean Luc Ponti and others with Frank Zappa
 
David LaFlamme with It's a Beautiful Day
 
--- forget her name -- sorry --- the lady that passed away that played violin with Par Lindh -- she was better than him or the band!
 
Anekdotten has a violin, does it not?
 
PFM - Lots of violin in the earlier days
 
Banco also has violins and other instrumental pieces but they are all over the music, not exemplified as we prefer to in the "rock music" context
 
Amon Duul 2 has so much violin that no one listens to it! And it loves to duet an electric guitar ... and very well too! But it might be considered too proggy because it doesn't have that "anglo-american" sound! The way the violin is used here is different, because it is also soloing almost all the time right next to the guitar, and I think this confuses people's musical minds when they think that you can only hear one thing during a "solo" ... but what if it is NOT a solo, but a part of the music? ... Yeah ... !!!!
 
And ... I'm sorry ... I would rather listen to Charlie Daniels, or Doug Kershaw than have to live through a Kansas album again! At least you get some honesty and down home feeling in the music that is not pretentious or pleads to be something that one is not in my book!


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Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: December 13 2010 at 21:32
The polish group BELIEVE does a good job with this.  Their player Satomi is excellent
I liked what the German group Pell Mell did too, although I guess that was more classical
The Canadian group FM used electric violin



Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: December 13 2010 at 22:16
Originally posted by Mushroom Sword Mushroom Sword wrote:


King Crimson's Red (album).


By the time they released that album, David Cross had already left the band (or rather, asked to leave), and thus there are no violins in it except for one live improv track (which I particularly don't even like).


Posted By: ClemofNazareth
Date Posted: December 14 2010 at 14:17
Here's a few that haven't been mentioned yet:
 
The Flock
 
 
 
Mago de Oz
 
 
 
A Silver Mt. Zion
 
 
 
 
 
 


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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: December 14 2010 at 14:26
Espers


Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: December 14 2010 at 14:29
Originally posted by Garion81 Garion81 wrote:

I agree with Ivan but any of these albums would fit the bill:










You forgot Ragsdale's contribution, and if the OP is looking for more rock than symphonic, this is where it's at:

Kansas Freaks of Nature album cover


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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: December 14 2010 at 14:36
Indukti
Ram-Zet
Kayo Dot
Unexpect
Espers
Quella Vecchia Locanda


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Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: December 14 2010 at 14:42
Bondage Fruit!







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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: December 14 2010 at 16:11
Originally posted by kenethlevine kenethlevine wrote:

The polish group BELIEVE does a good job with this.  Their player Satomi is excellent
I liked what the German group Pell Mell did too, although I guess that was more classical
The Canadian group FM used electric violin

 
FM ... and Nash, the Slash ... same guy.


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Posted By: cloviskoba
Date Posted: December 14 2010 at 20:36

Great name is Eddie Jobson! 
Historic rock passages with Zappa and Jethro Tull 


Posted By: Prog Geo
Date Posted: December 15 2010 at 06:27
Spirogyra has used violin in some songs.It's a great prog folk band.


Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: December 15 2010 at 07:15
 
 
 
 
 
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Posted By: pied piper
Date Posted: December 15 2010 at 09:58

Most of you spoke about KC's David Cross or VDGG / String Drive Thing's Graham Smith, to say nothing of the smart (but over rated) Robby Steinhardt.

But apart from Curved Air's Darryl Way / Eddie Jobson who are gifted musicians, IMHO, the best prog fiddler ever is Ray Shulman of Gentle Giant.


Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: December 15 2010 at 19:51
Vertu (Lenny White, Stanley Clarke, Rachel Z, Richie Kotzen & Karen Briggs on violin)
 


Posted By: jean-marie
Date Posted: December 16 2010 at 10:33
Dave Arbus from EAST OF EDEN , he's great on baba o riley from the WHOWink


Posted By: jean-marie
Date Posted: December 16 2010 at 10:37
And i'm thinking about joachim reiser from WALLENSTEIN ,have a listen to COSMIC CENTURY and SONGS,STORIES and SYIMPHONIESSmile


Posted By: Formentera Lady
Date Posted: December 16 2010 at 11:50
Not mentioned, yet: Eidolon

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Posted By: jean-marie
Date Posted: December 16 2010 at 12:21
Originally posted by Formentera Lady Formentera Lady wrote:

Not mentioned, yet: Eidolon

http://www.progarchives.com/mp3.asp?id=4329" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/mp3.asp?id=4329
i didn't know that french band ,thanks!!!! thr's also WAPASSOU


Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: December 16 2010 at 13:12
I've always loved Didier Lockwood's performances with bands like Magma and Zao.


Posted By: jean-marie
Date Posted: December 17 2010 at 12:10
Nobody thought of geoffrey richardson with CARAVAN???Ouch


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: December 17 2010 at 14:43
Magda Hagberg(RIP) in Par Lindh Project used to play violin and sing lead vocals. Sadly missed.


Posted By: Takeshi Kovacs
Date Posted: December 17 2010 at 15:42


Not violin driven music, but excellent interplay between violin and keyboards on this track. Check out the 2nd part of the song too if you can.


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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: December 17 2010 at 16:31
Hi,
 
Shankar ... on double violin. He does rock and jazz and everything else you can think of!


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Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: December 18 2010 at 14:43
Frank Van Essen, violonist and drummer for IONA :
 


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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: December 18 2010 at 15:01
Two excellent Japanese bands where the violin is prominent.
 
Fantasmagoria :
 
http://www.myspace.com/violinfantasmagoria" rel="nofollow - http://www.myspace.com/violinfantasmagoria
 
http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=5506" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=5506
 
The violin is the showcased instrument on all tracks.Their album "Day and Night" is superb.
 
Outer Limits:
 
http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=279" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=279
 
Check em out,you won't be disappointed!


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Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: December 18 2010 at 15:46
^^^Fantasmagoria is on my "to buy" list for my next  music purchase.

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Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: December 18 2010 at 17:38
Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

Two excellent Japanese bands where the violin is prominent.
 
Fantasmagoria :
 
http://www.myspace.com/violinfantasmagoria" rel="nofollow - http://www.myspace.com/violinfantasmagoria
 
http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=5506" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=5506
 
The violin is the showcased instrument on all tracks.Their album "Day and Night" is superb.
 
 
I fail to see the greatness in this band...Confused


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Posted By: Baggra
Date Posted: December 18 2010 at 17:55
David Rose - Distance between Dreams     '77 France
Ben Mink - Foreign Exchange   '80 Canada
Ripoche/Demay - contes Musiceaux     '77 Canada
Scarlet Rivera - same  '77 US
RSC- Flyrock    excellent Polish '70s fusion
 
(I have all of the above available as trade vinyl.)


Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: December 19 2010 at 01:23
Originally posted by lucas lucas wrote:

Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

Two excellent Japanese bands where the violin is prominent.
 
Fantasmagoria :
 
http://www.myspace.com/violinfantasmagoria" rel="nofollow - http://www.myspace.com/violinfantasmagoria
 
http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=5506" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=5506
 
The violin is the showcased instrument on all tracks.Their album "Day and Night" is superb.
 
 
I fail to see the greatness in this band...Confused
 
Just a case of different strokes for different folks,Lucas.


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Posted By: Lozlan
Date Posted: December 21 2010 at 19:17
I forgot to mention Pell Mell.  Amazing and little-known German (and, admittedly, symphonic) band featuring Thomas Schmitt, one of the most astonishing violinists I've ever heard in prog.  Check out their debut album Marburg: it's currently the worm in my ear, and features some pretty virtuosic playing.  Also it most certainly rocks.

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Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: December 21 2010 at 19:39
Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

Originally posted by lucas lucas wrote:

Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

Two excellent Japanese bands where the violin is prominent.
 
Fantasmagoria :
 
http://www.myspace.com/violinfantasmagoria" rel="nofollow - http://www.myspace.com/violinfantasmagoria
 
http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=5506" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=5506
 
The violin is the showcased instrument on all tracks.Their album "Day and Night" is superb.
 
 
I fail to see the greatness in this band...Confused
 
Just a case of different strokes for different folks,Lucas.


They sound pretty damned good to me. although, this line from their myspace bio sounds a little over indulgent.

"Fantasmagoria is in full activity as the brightest hope of progressive rock band in Japan and in all over the world."






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Posted By: Earendil
Date Posted: December 22 2010 at 08:22
Thanks everybody.  First I'm going to get another Kansas album then give a lot of these a listen.


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Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 08:47


Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 09:09
Wow, nobody mentioned http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=2094" rel="nofollow - Jean-Luc Ponty ??

Mindblowing music, seriously.




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Posted By: Anthony H.
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 09:33
Originally posted by progkidjoel progkidjoel wrote:


This entire album is string driven for the most part, and it's http://www.maudlinofthewell.net/downloads.html" rel="nofollow - absolutely free.


This.


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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 11:25
Gentle Gant uses a lot of ciolin on theirf albums.
the first album of the German band Aera, "Hand und Fuß", has a lot of violin on it.
Darryl Way's band Wolf is full of violin on all three of their albums.
Clearlight's albums "Vision" and "Le Conte du Singe-Fou" feature Didier Lockwood on violin. their second album "Forever Blowing Bubbles" features David Cross of King Crimson on violin.
Gong's "Shamal" has Jorge Pinchevski on violin in 4 of the 6 tracks.

there is a lot more which just doesn't come to my mind right now; I have to check our collection


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Posted By: thehallway
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 11:47
Larks Tongues in Aspic

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Posted By: ProgressiveAttic
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 13:18
Originally posted by CCVP CCVP wrote:

Wow, nobody mentioned http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=2094" rel="nofollow - Jean-Luc Ponty ??Mindblowing music, seriously.


Exactly!!!! I expected to find his name all over this thread!


Esperanto is also very hard rocking:


and how about Jethro Tull with Eddie Jobson?



Edit: you can also check out the setlist of the prog violin special I did at my radio show: http://deliciousagony.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3768&sid=a3c5df4a4fb8a3535a9a7be04079448e" rel="nofollow - http://deliciousagony.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3768&sid=a3c5df4a4fb8a3535a9a7be04079448e

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Posted By: Matthew T
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 14:17
Originally posted by jean-marie jean-marie wrote:

Dave Arbus from EAST OF EDEN , he's great on baba o riley from the WHOWink
Now that is good violin in Rock ClapClapClapClapClap aaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwesome actually

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Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 14:29


Posted By: Jörgemeister
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 15:20
Originally posted by CCVP CCVP wrote:

Wow, nobody mentioned http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=2094" rel="nofollow - Jean-Luc Ponty ??

Mindblowing music, seriously.



New Return to Forever reunion without DiMeola but with Ponty! ( i dont know if instead of DiMeola or just as an extra instrument) either way is gonna be awesome.


Posted By: Tengent
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 15:46
Jean-Luc Ponty + Zappa.


I know Fred Firth played violin throughout his time with Henry Cow, but I never liked the timbre of his violin. :(


Posted By: Lizzy
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 15:53
Originally posted by A Person A Person wrote:


Orrrrrrrrrrrrrr....






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Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 16:02
^Can we just post the whole album? LOL


Posted By: Lizzy
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 16:04
Originally posted by A Person A Person wrote:

^Can we just post the whole album? LOL

After you.


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Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 16:07
Originally posted by Lizzy Lizzy wrote:

Originally posted by A Person A Person wrote:

^Can we just post the whole album? LOL

After you.

Oh no, you first. LOL


Posted By: ProgressiveAttic
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 16:17
Originally posted by Jörgemeister Jörgemeister wrote:


Originally posted by CCVP CCVP wrote:

Wow, nobody mentioned http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=2094" rel="nofollow - Jean-Luc Ponty ??Mindblowing music, seriously.

New Return to Forever reunion without DiMeola but with Ponty! ( i dont know if instead of DiMeola or just as an extra instrument) either way is gonna be awesome.


It's with Frank Gambale on guitar.... really amazing lineup + they are writing new material!

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Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 17:43
Originally posted by ProgressiveAttic ProgressiveAttic wrote:

Originally posted by Jörgemeister Jörgemeister wrote:


Originally posted by CCVP CCVP wrote:

Wow, nobody mentioned http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=2094" rel="nofollow - Jean-Luc Ponty ??Mindblowing music, seriously.

New Return to Forever reunion without DiMeola but with Ponty! ( i dont know if instead of DiMeola or just as an extra instrument) either way is gonna be awesome.


It's with Frank Gambale on guitar.... really amazing lineup + they are writing new material!


OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!11ShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShocked

EXTREMELY high hopes with this one! Big smile


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Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: December 28 2010 at 14:31
Originally posted by cloviskoba cloviskoba wrote:


Great name is Eddie Jobson! 
Historic rock passages with Zappa and Jethro Tull 
Don't forget him in the amazing first UK album.
 
The Dixie Dregs have already been mentioned and as it seems the OP is mostly looking for the rock side of things I think they are essential for him to check out. Specially recommended the live BRING 'EM BACK ALIVE and the studio WHAT IF.


Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: December 28 2010 at 21:04
Not to forget Magma! What would their first live album be without the great Gidier Lockwood on violin (who was only seventeen years old at the timne of recording)?
And how about some of the live albums of Peter Hammill? "There Goes the Daylight" and "Veracious" both feature Stuart Gordon on violin.


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Posted By: earlyprog
Date Posted: December 29 2010 at 05:16
East Of Eden used the violin to great effect.
 
One (although atypical) example:
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiKrCBQn6BU&feature=player_detailpage" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiKrCBQn6BU&feature=player_detailpage
 
 


Posted By: zwordser
Date Posted: January 04 2011 at 01:33
Well, I know it's only one song, but the violin solo in Losing It (Rush, Signals) is the highlight, and one of the best I've heard. It was by guest Violinist Ben Mink.  

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Posted By: goertz
Date Posted: January 04 2011 at 03:18
Don't forget:
 
MAGMA and Didier Lockwood in the "Hhaï" live album from 75
 
Franck Zappa in the 70's with Jean Luc Ponty (especially the King Kong album) Sugar Caine Harris and Eddie Jobson
 
UK: with Eddie Jobson
 
Allan Holdsworth himself played  some violin in his early albums (I think I.O.U)
 
The french group ATOLL in his 2nd album "L'araignée mal" has some good violin
 
David Rose and his excellent album "Distance between dreams"
 
Darryl way's Wolf group
 
ZAO and Yoshk'o Seffer albums


Posted By: dwadziescia
Date Posted: January 04 2011 at 13:05
Dirty Three.



Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: January 04 2011 at 14:43
 
Don and Dewey / Mr. Barnum Jr.'s Magnificent And Fabulous City - Alquin. No further comment needed.
 
Verde por Dentro - Alejandro Matos. Ends with a beautiful violin solo ( http://www.progarchives.com/mp3.asp?id=4702" rel="nofollow - click here to listen ).
 
 
 


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