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Topic: Who do I send this sacrificial goat to?
Posted By: Sargasso
Subject: Who do I send this sacrificial goat to?
Date Posted: February 02 2011 at 15:25
Now that I have your attention, I shall introduce myself. My name is Andy. I live in the Seattle, Washington area and I can never remember my age exactly. Twenties, about. My interests include science (physics, anthropology, cosmology), film, politics and, of course, music.

My first love is all things prog, from classic prog rock like Yes, Genesis, King Crimson and Supertramp to prog metal like Opeth, Tool and Between the Buried and Me. My favorite musicians are the likes of Porcupine Tree, Dream Theater, Tool, and I am probably the biggest Scale the Summit fan on this planet. I also have a healthy appreciation for classic rock, metal, pop-rock, jazz, post rock, and  folk.

I joined this board because I love to discuss music with others, but most my friends are into just classic rock, or just hip-hop, or just electronica, or, god-forbid, just indie. The point is, I have no community to discuss awesome prog rock with or anyone to introduce me to the artists in the extensive library of prog. That's where yall come in. Wink

Feel free to post and tell me what you like or what you think I would like!





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Posted By: Proletariat
Date Posted: February 02 2011 at 15:38
Well hello there fine fellow!!!

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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: February 02 2011 at 15:54
I can take it, but only if I can have it cooked.


Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: February 02 2011 at 16:03
You might want to try posting it on Craigslist for local pick-up. The shipping for that would be insane.


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Posted By: Baby Snakes
Date Posted: February 02 2011 at 21:52
Give it to us raw and wwwrrrrriggling


Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: February 03 2011 at 16:54
just lisend now on Scale the Summit an OH MY GOD thank you for bringing them to my atention, I think I found a metal band that I feel will give me as much joy / exitment as Mastodon

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Posted By: Sargasso
Date Posted: February 03 2011 at 19:32
I love Mastodon too! In my opinion, each album has been miles better than the one before it, a progression almost unheard of in metal. Crack the Skye is definitely one my top 3 metal albums, and seeing the whole thing performed live (twice) was one of the coolest things I've ever seen. Oh, and Scale the Summit just released a new single. The song is called Whales, and the album comes out March 1. Enjoy!

http://www.metalsucks.net/2011/02/03/world-premiere-a-one-track-sneak-peak-of-scale-the-summits-the-collective/" rel="nofollow - http://www.metalsucks.net/2011/02/03/world-premiere-a-one-track-sneak-peak-of-scale-the-summits-the-collective/


Posted By: seventhsojourn
Date Posted: February 04 2011 at 14:54
Hey there, you're going to fit in just fine around here. Smile


Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: February 04 2011 at 15:07
Exivious is a good next step from Scale the Summitt
 
Animals as Leaders, the newer Cynic album, Edge of Sanity's Crimson.
 
If you're adventurous try out Unexpect.
 
 
 
And yeah you'll be just fine.


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Posted By: hobocamp
Date Posted: February 04 2011 at 15:54
It's okay to end a sentence with a preposition. Really, it's okay.
If anybody tells you differently, well, that is the sort of thing up with which I will not put.


Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: February 09 2011 at 14:44
Hi there.
one way to get deeper into prog is to check out each album on the top 100 list here. I virtually listened to them one by one and learnt about the bands that shaped prog as we know it.
 
Welcome to the site.


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Posted By: Sargasso
Date Posted: February 15 2011 at 12:58
What...the....hell

Unexpect is not bad by any means at all, they are clearly talented and original and I was rather entertained, but.... I am just not ready. It was like Mr. Bungle got in a barfight with Dir en grey over a Garfield strip and they both ended up making sweet, sweet love.

Animals as Leaders and Exivious were both great though. Thanks for the tip!


Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: February 15 2011 at 18:01
Originally posted by Sargasso Sargasso wrote:

What...the....hellUnexpect is not bad by any means at all, they are clearly talented and original and I was rather entertained, but.... I am just not ready. It was like Mr. Bungle got in a barfight with Dir en grey over a Garfield strip and they both ended up making sweet, sweet love. Animals as Leaders and Exivious were both great though. Thanks for the tip!
That is the single best description of Unexpect I have ever read! Welcome to the forum (yes, OK, I'm half a month late), you might want to try Akphayzea and Ebonylake, similar to Unexpect but not quite as nutty.

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Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: February 15 2011 at 18:50
All sacrificial lambs go to the Prog Metal Team. 

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Posted By: Conor Fynes
Date Posted: February 16 2011 at 03:54
Sargasso... Did you go to see Porcupine Tree at the Moore Theater on Sept 15 2009? I drove down from Vancouver for a night to see them... Was incredible!


Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: February 16 2011 at 10:46
Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

All sacrificial lambs go to the Prog Metal Team. 
Standards must have dropped since I was in the team, it used to be virgins!Tongue

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Posted By: Conor Fynes
Date Posted: February 16 2011 at 15:09
Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

All sacrificial lambs go to the Prog Metal Team. 
Standards must have dropped since I was in the team, it used to be virgins!Tongue
LOL


Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: February 16 2011 at 15:11
Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

All sacrificial lambs go to the Prog Metal Team. 


And welcome to the site!

I think you will become a fine member of this community for sure! Big smile


Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: February 16 2011 at 21:14
Good to see you on the site. Thumbs Up
 
The waffles go to me btw.
 
 
 
 
Oh wait did you say goat?


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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: February 16 2011 at 21:45

Meat Fit for Muslims

BY SARAH MERCIER

Young billy goats flood the floor of the Kalona Sales Barn from March to April each year. Their plaintive bleats contrast with the rapid-fire, staccato rhythm of the auctioneer who sells them by the pound to the highest bidder with a slight nod or a raised finger.

Many of these goats were raised on Amish farms and will find themselves under the knife for zabiha, ritual Islamic slaughter.

“There are a lot more goats around,” said Devin Mullet, owner and operator of the Kalona Sales Barn. Mullet said about half of the two to three hundred goats sold each week come from Amish farms.

Goat and lamb meat is not part of the usual supermarket fare in the Midwest — it is Muslim and international residents that have created the demand for these fresh meats. And they prefer to know where the animal came from and who slaughtered it.

Followers of Islam adhere to dietary guidelines defined by in the Quran. These rules specify what is lawful to eat, or halal, and what is unlawful, or haram. Zabiha slaughter is similar to Jewish kosher slaughter. The halal ritual requires that the goat, lamb or cow be hand slaughtered in the name of Allah (God), that it be drained of all blood, rinsed thoroughly, and processed without alcohol or pork products.

“The purpose of ritual slaughter is to make the food both physically and spiritually pure,” said Shawn Safdar, treasurer of the Iowa City Mosque. He follows a halal diet that emphasizes wholesome food and considers it part of his worship.

Gamel Zayed is an Egyptian Muslim who moved to the United States in 2001. He has noticed a steady increase in the demand for fresh halal goat, sheep, and even beef that he supplies to meat markets.

Zayed operates Badr Halal Farms, a meat processing plant in Shannon, Ill. The rural town of 900 has no Muslim population and is 50 miles from the closest mosque.

When he began operating the business in 2004, he processed just 100 head of goat, lamb, and beef in the first year.

Now the plant processes between 500 and 600 head each week, sending the fresh meat to Chicago, Wisconsin, and Minnesota, on hangers in refrigerated trucks. Zayed said 80 percent of all meat sold is goat.

He estimates half of the goats sold at the Kalona Sales Barn end up at his plant one way or another. He sends suppliers there to purchase directly, but many farmers buy the baby billies, fatten them up and sell them to Badr Halal Farms when they are about six months old.

The Amish communities, using no telephones, electricity or cars in their daily lives have become an integral part of the halal food system.

“They are smart,” Zayed said, “[The Amish] who are raising goat know very well about Halal Farms.”

They also understand the lunar calendar on which Islamic holidays are based, Zayed said. “They know exactly the time for pricing because of holidays, prices go up and down.”

“There are more peaks in the year,” Mullet said, of the Kalona livestock auction’s sales, because there is a more diverse group buying.

Willie Lehman, an Amish father of five sons, lives in a homestead in Middlebury, Ind. He and his family joined the emerging goat business last summer, when they brought 2500 head of goat from Texas by semi-truck—to breed and sell.

Using phones and rented cars outside the homestead is now part of Amish business culture. Lehman sold off some of the nannies he ordered from Texas, to get other area farmers started in the emerging goat business.

“There used to be a time,” Lehman said, “when you could have a farm and make a living. Those days are gone and you have to have more going on to pay the bills.”

Lehman and his sons formed a partnership with two of his nephew’s families and started LLY Boer Goat L.L.C. They have 200 nannies—mother goats—to raise young stock from.

Being part of the halal food industry presents no religious conflict for Lehman, a life-long Christian. “I don’t have to believe in what they do,” Lehman said, “and they don’t have to believe in what I do.”

Badr Halal Farms has about 40 Amish accounts, including Lehman. Gamel Zayed said the Amish are reliable and produce high quality animals.

Run by twelve employees, the busy plant has a state meat inspector who assesses the animal’s health while it is alive, supervises the ritual slaughter and skinning, and examines the thoroughly rinsed, gutted carcass.

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Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: February 16 2011 at 23:42
^ You were supposed to add some ugg boot and sports shirt links in there. 

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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: February 17 2011 at 03:30
This is still the best thread title we've had since quite some time. Kudos. 


Posted By: Sargasso
Date Posted: February 17 2011 at 09:58
Originally posted by Conor Fynes Conor Fynes wrote:

Sargasso... Did you go to see Porcupine Tree at the Moore Theater on Sept 15 2009? I drove down from Vancouver for a night to see them... Was incredible!

Oh yeah, I was there. That was such a perfect way to bust my Incident cherry, with the full album/song/suite performed right in front of my eyes and ears. In fact, that night was my introduction to prog as a genre, because I met some folks at the show who liked my DT cap and they invited me to come drink with them after the show. All these guys and girls listened to music I had never even heard of, and this is the best part, so we hotboxed their van and they introduced me to Yes, King Crimson, Marillion, Transatlantic, The Mars Volta and Supertramp. Afterward, I walked around downtown Seattle with a transient crackhead named Vlady until the train came to take me to jury duty. That was the best night of my life.


"Their plaintive bleats contrast with the rapid-fire, staccato rhythm of the auctioneer who sells them by the pound to the highest bidder with a slight nod or a raised finger. "

Prog as f**k



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