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Topic: Most Painful Prog Vocals
Posted By: topographicbroadways
Subject: Most Painful Prog Vocals
Date Posted: February 12 2011 at 13:53
What are some of the prog vocal performances, either live or studio albums that make you cringe and go for the stop button?

Inspiration for this thread came (attempting) listening to Steve Howe's first album. Fantastic musician and harmony vocalist but an album of him singing leadDead. I struggle to even get through the opening song of this horrifying album.

I also find Geddy Lee's singing on some of the Test For Echo album quite cringe worthy, particularly Resist.


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Posted By: boo boo
Date Posted: February 12 2011 at 14:05

As with any "worst" thread, this is gonna get controversial fast.

I'm really quite tired of all these negative threads.

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Posted By: Mushroom Sword
Date Posted: February 12 2011 at 14:05
Opeth, Magic Pye (sounds like country to me), and then anything else that uses growling vocals, including Oblivion, and Symphony X on their latest album.


Posted By: topographicbroadways
Date Posted: February 12 2011 at 14:09
Originally posted by boo boo boo boo wrote:

As with any "worst" thread, this is gonna get controversial fast.

I'm really quite tired of all these negative threads.

it isn't a 'worst' thread i carefully worded it so it is personal and completely opinion based


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Posted By: boo boo
Date Posted: February 12 2011 at 14:13
UH.... WHAT?

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Posted By: topographicbroadways
Date Posted: February 12 2011 at 14:13
Originally posted by boo boo boo boo wrote:

UH.... WHAT?

read through the post and note the word 'worst' isn't used once


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Posted By: boo boo
Date Posted: February 12 2011 at 14:15

Different word, same meaning. You're still asking people who they consider to be the worst prog vocalists.

In art, the worst anything is obviously subjective. Of course everything about musical quality is subjective but like I said we have a lot of threads like this already and it usually just leads to a lot of bitching and little insightful commentary.


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Posted By: topographicbroadways
Date Posted: February 12 2011 at 14:21
Originally posted by boo boo boo boo wrote:

Different word, same meaning. You're still asking people who they consider to be the worst prog vocalists.

In art, the worst anything is obviously subjective. Of course everything about musical quality is subjective but like I said we have a lot of threads like this already and it usually just leads to a lot of bitching and little insightful commentary.

what i was saying is 'worst' threads tend to be 'what IS the worst' i'm saying 'what do you think' it's a difference and not as dumb


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Posted By: let prog reign
Date Posted: February 12 2011 at 18:14
The Album Aquarius by Haken. At times the vocals actually sound good but at others just awful....

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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: February 12 2011 at 18:21
lol James LaBrie


Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: February 12 2011 at 18:38
 


Posted By: Luna
Date Posted: February 12 2011 at 18:47
Gotta love these positive threads

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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: February 12 2011 at 18:56
Sorry, I change my vote to Phil Collins


Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: February 12 2011 at 19:06
Originally posted by boo boo boo boo wrote:

Different word, same meaning. You're still asking people who they consider to be the worst prog vocalists.

In art, the worst anything is obviously subjective. Of course everything about musical quality is subjective but like I said we have a lot of threads like this already and it usually just leads to a lot of bitching and little insightful commentary.


I haven't been around here at all lately (for a multitude of reasons), but I think you need to back off a little bit. The OP's intention clearly wasn't to start a thread that leads to "a lot of bitching", as he's clarified multiple times. He was simply wondering what songs are (in your opinion) murdered by weak vocals.

If that leads to a bitching-fest, you've proven me wrong. As far as I can see, that's yet to happen.


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Posted By: mEP
Date Posted: February 12 2011 at 19:35
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Posted By: Evolver
Date Posted: February 12 2011 at 20:04
While Neal Morse sometimes sounds too much like Tom Petty to me, I don't find his vocals painful.
 
Any death metal growls make me cringe.
James LaBrie sometimes gets too shrill.
The vocals on Rick Wakeman's  "King Arthur" album always annoy me.
 


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Posted By: The Neck Romancer
Date Posted: February 12 2011 at 20:04
Anything with post-A Change of Seasons Labrie that isn't a ballad is impossible to listen to.

And there's Agalloch. I think I'd love their music if it wasn't for the vocals; both the screeches and the clean vocals suck.


Posted By: kglenz
Date Posted: February 12 2011 at 20:23
*Many vocals from Dream Theater live recordings make me cringe. 
*Some of Led Zepplin's (later stuff), 
*when Dylan went country w/J.Cash & sounded like Kermit the frog, 
*Rush-Signals (one of my favorite Rush albums) when G. Lee sings about "the kitchen"-I always laugh-it sounds funny. 
*On Deep Purple's Made in Japan when Gillan & Blackmore are copying each other. 
*Yes in the 80's when they sounded like Petra-some of the vocals added that layer of cheese that didn't always go down easily. 
*Styx - "Lady" is so flat it makes me cringe. 
*When Pink Floyd went on the road & recorded "A delicate sound of thunder" without Waters - the vocals were weak from the backup to the lead - it just didn't work for me. 
"Bloody Well Right" from Supertramp - does not work for me. 


Posted By: kglenz
Date Posted: February 12 2011 at 20:31
Phil Collins really bugs me too! I Loved Brand X  & early Genesis (he didn't sing) but since the 80's he's really put out the sappiest garbage. ("it's just a shame - that's all" makes me want to gouge out my ears) I always hated Mike McDonald for his songs as well & for wrecking the Doobie Brothers. 


Posted By: zappaholic
Date Posted: February 12 2011 at 20:32
Your favorite [fill in the blank] sucks.




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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: February 12 2011 at 20:44
Jon Anderson, on "We Have Heaven."


Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: February 12 2011 at 20:52
James LaBrie, especially his cover of Heart and Sunrise. *Short Distance* is like nails to a chalkboard.


Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: February 12 2011 at 21:11
LaBrie on 6DoiT
Ronnie Stolt
Neal Morse

Those come to mind immediately



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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: February 12 2011 at 21:11
Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

 

I have to agree with you, even when I find most Gentle Giant's vocal annoying, Proclamation is specially exasperating for me, one thing is being dissonant, but this is absolutely out of key, terribly sung, makes me feel sick.

We have Heaven is also a good choice.

Iván


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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: February 12 2011 at 21:49
^I thought you were going to say 'Kreuhn Kohrmahn Iss de Hundin', Ivan. Wink


Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: February 12 2011 at 21:58
Not too fond about Bryan ferry's vocals in Roxy Music, but then again your question is "most painful PROG vocals" and i really do not consider Roxy Music Prog, sure there very avant garde (which is great) but I've found them to be more of a Glam Rock band gone experimental. Although i do love Brian Eno's keyboard work and sonic textures.

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Posted By: 40footwolf
Date Posted: February 12 2011 at 23:11
I'm going to join the James Labrie Hate Bandwagon. The guy couldn't carry a tune if his life depended on it.

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Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: February 13 2011 at 00:29
Originally posted by boo boo boo boo wrote:

Different word, same meaning. You're still asking people who they consider to be the worst prog vocalists.

In art, the worst anything is obviously subjective. Of course everything about musical quality is subjective but like I said we have a lot of threads like this already and it usually just leads to a lot of bitching and little insightful commentary.

Look who started. 


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Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: February 13 2011 at 00:33
Oh, and I'm not a DT hater or anything but LaBrie's vocals can Ouch   

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Posted By: cannon
Date Posted: February 13 2011 at 00:43
The vocalist from Gnidrolog. Unlistenable for me. Awful.


Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: February 13 2011 at 01:28
Originally posted by 40footwolf 40footwolf wrote:

I'm going to join the James Labrie Hate Bandwagon. The guy couldn't carry a tune if his life depended on it.

I wouldn't go THAT far but maybe you have seen him live and have had a different experience. Judging from what live footage I have seen/heard of him, I don't think that is such a major issue for him.  His main problem is of attacking lines the wrong way, usually very overvehement and way overshooting the mark emotionally.  Of course, it's difficult to define right or wrong in music so this could be argued to be subjective but that he at least uniformly diverges from the original (referring to covers) is not so hard to establish.


Posted By: 40footwolf
Date Posted: February 13 2011 at 01:50
I've seen Dream Theater live opening for Iron Maiden and I've heard the studio albums. I actually think he's BETTER live since his vocals tend to get drowned out by Pertucci and Portnoy. His voice is just terrible.

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Posted By: HarbouringTheSoul
Date Posted: February 13 2011 at 07:53
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

I have to agree with you, even when I find most Gentle Giant's vocal annoying, Proclamation is specially exasperating for me, one thing is being dissonant, but this is absolutely out of key, terribly sung, makes me feel sick.

There's only one passage that is out of key ("Hail to power and to glory's way"), and I assume that's totally intentional. Derek Schulman is a very capable singer, just listen to "I Lost My Head" for example. He just uses his voice in very unconventional ways sometimes. The way the band harmonizes vocally can also be pretty exhausting. I can totally understand why just can't stand those vocals, but I wouldn't quite call them terribly sung. I can't stand "We Have Heaven" either, but I respect what he did there.


Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: February 13 2011 at 08:41
Originally posted by HarbouringTheSoul HarbouringTheSoul wrote:

 
There's only one passage that is out of key ("Hail to power and to glory's way"), and I assume that's totally intentional. Derek Schulman is a very capable singer, just listen to "I Lost My Head" for example. He just uses his voice in very unconventional ways sometimes. The way the band harmonizes vocally can also be pretty exhausting. I can totally understand why just can't stand those vocals, but I wouldn't quite call them terribly sung. I can't stand "We Have Heaven" either, but I respect what he did there.

Of course is intentional, but this doesn't make it better in my opinion.

I believe they were complex for the sake of complexity, that's why I can't stand Shullman's voice, much less when his brother makes second voice.

In my opinion, despite having a nice vocal range, he made his singing horrendous.

Iván


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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: February 13 2011 at 08:50
The bleating of the Family vocalist annoyed me but for me the worst vocals are from the death metal growls of those DM bands.  

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Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: February 13 2011 at 09:27
Originally posted by AtomicCrimsonRush AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:

The bleating of the Family vocalist annoyed me but for me the worst vocals are from the death metal growls of those DM bands.  

Agree about the Family part and on similar lines, can't stand Roger Hodgson on Dreamer, just unbridled bleat.  In general, I am fairly tolerant of his singing though it's not my cuppa except for a few songs like Logical Song.


Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: February 13 2011 at 09:36
There is some bint that shrieks through Magma's MDK that makes the album virtually unlistenable for me.

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Posted By: TODDLER
Date Posted: February 13 2011 at 10:31
I had a problem relating to the vocals of Dave Lawson. The guy is really talented and Greenslade is an intense band. Tough luck for me. I love the band but can't tolerate the vocals.


Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: February 13 2011 at 12:46
I know a lot of people like it, but after many years of trying, I still can't listen to Trvor Horn on Drama. By far the worse, though, were Belew's vocals on Prozac Blues - truly awful.

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Posted By: Lizzy
Date Posted: February 13 2011 at 18:29
The first ones that spring to mind are Faun Fables and Gentle Giant in general not only on particular songs. Such a pitty because they're great bands.

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Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: February 13 2011 at 20:12
Originally posted by HarbouringTheSoul HarbouringTheSoul wrote:

Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

I have to agree with you, even when I find most Gentle Giant's vocal annoying, Proclamation is specially exasperating for me, one thing is being dissonant, but this is absolutely out of key, terribly sung, makes me feel sick.

There's only one passage that is out of key ("Hail to power and to glory's way"), and I assume that's totally intentional. Derek Schulman is a very capable singer, just listen to "I Lost My Head" for example. He just uses his voice in very unconventional ways sometimes. The way the band harmonizes vocally can also be pretty exhausting. I can totally understand why just can't stand those vocals, but I wouldn't quite call them terribly sung. I can't stand "We Have Heaven" either, but I respect what he did there.
I love Proclamation, mostly for the striking vocal work!


Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: February 13 2011 at 20:58
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

There is some bint that shrieks through Magma's MDK that makes the album virtually unlistenable for me.
Isn't it Vander that does? I don't know.

Also, don't get the We Have Heaven hate. That track is really cool. And James LaBrie is an amazing vocalist.


Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: February 14 2011 at 01:16
Originally posted by DisgruntledPorcupine DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:

Also, don't get the We Have Heaven hate. That track is really cool.

I agree.


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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: February 14 2011 at 01:40
Originally posted by DisgruntledPorcupine DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

There is some bint that shrieks through Magma's MDK that makes the album virtually unlistenable for me.
Isn't it Vander that does? I don't know.



Sounds like a woman to me. I don't know either.


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Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: February 14 2011 at 01:44
^ I just like how you used the word "bint". LOL

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Posted By: boo boo
Date Posted: February 14 2011 at 02:19
Originally posted by kglenz kglenz wrote:

*Many vocals from Dream Theater live recordings make me cringe. 
*Some of Led Zepplin's (later stuff), 
*when Dylan went country w/J.Cash & sounded like Kermit the frog, 
*Rush-Signals (one of my favorite Rush albums) when G. Lee sings about "the kitchen"-I always laugh-it sounds funny. 
*On Deep Purple's Made in Japan when Gillan & Blackmore are copying each other. 
*Yes in the 80's when they sounded like Petra-some of the vocals added that layer of cheese that didn't always go down easily. 
*Styx - "Lady" is so flat it makes me cringe. 
*When Pink Floyd went on the road & recorded "A delicate sound of thunder" without Waters - the vocals were weak from the backup to the lead - it just didn't work for me. 
"Bloody Well Right" from Supertramp - does not work for me. 
 
WUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHHH???????????????
 
The country stuff is actually the only period where I really liked his vocals, personally.


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Posted By: boo boo
Date Posted: February 14 2011 at 02:27
Originally posted by presdoug presdoug wrote:

Originally posted by HarbouringTheSoul HarbouringTheSoul wrote:

Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

I have to agree with you, even when I find most Gentle Giant's vocal annoying, Proclamation is specially exasperating for me, one thing is being dissonant, but this is absolutely out of key, terribly sung, makes me feel sick.

There's only one passage that is out of key ("Hail to power and to glory's way"), and I assume that's totally intentional. Derek Schulman is a very capable singer, just listen to "I Lost My Head" for example. He just uses his voice in very unconventional ways sometimes. The way the band harmonizes vocally can also be pretty exhausting. I can totally understand why just can't stand those vocals, but I wouldn't quite call them terribly sung. I can't stand "We Have Heaven" either, but I respect what he did there.
I love Proclamation, mostly for the striking vocal work!
 
I figured GG would get some hate here, well f**k it, I love their vocals. Their vocals are in a league of their own, I like the dissonant harmony effect of Proclaimation, rather amazing that someone posts a video of that as an example of bad prog, wtf.
 
I also think Trevor Horn did a decent job on Drama even if he's no Jon Anderson. I like him better than that Benoit David douche that's for sure.
 
Anyway. James Labrie has been mentioned already, can't we close this now?


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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: February 14 2011 at 09:00
Originally posted by DisgruntledPorcupine DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:


Also, don't get the We Have Heaven hate. That track is really cool. And James LaBrie is an amazing vocalist.

Hate?

Isn't this called taste?

Iván


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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: February 14 2011 at 09:03
Originally posted by boo boo boo boo wrote:

 
I figured GG would get some hate here, well f**k it, I love their vocals. Their vocals are in a league of their own, I like the dissonant harmony effect of Proclaimation, rather amazing that someone posts a video of that as an example of bad prog, wtf.


I expected this provocative  replies from you.

We are talking about PERSONAL OPINIONS and PERSONAL TASTES or DISLIKE, learn to live with them or simply ignore the thread

Iván


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Posted By: MrEdifus
Date Posted: February 14 2011 at 09:14
Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

 

That's just fine  until they get to the "HAIL TO POWER" part.


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Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: February 14 2011 at 09:46
There are alot of really expressive vocalist whose actual vocal tonality is just terrible. Toby Driver's vocals sound like some whiny high school kid alot of the time. But he's got something to say so I roll with it. Many example like that, the most prototypical being Dylan...who actually could make his voice palatable but gets perverse pleasure seeing what people will put up with.
 
There are some harsh vocals I like, but Agalloch's are weak.
 
Obviously Camel's vocals are best when overeffected and in the background.


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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: February 14 2011 at 10:18
Originally posted by boo boo boo boo wrote:


 
I also think Trevor Horn did a decent job on Drama even if he's no Jon Anderson. I like him better than that Benoit David douche that's for sure.
 

Douche? Why so? 


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Posted By: King Manuel
Date Posted: February 14 2011 at 10:41
James LaBrie on When Dream and Day Unite - the Official Bootleg, turns one of my favourite albums into  a unlistenable expierence ...

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Posted By: topographicbroadways
Date Posted: February 14 2011 at 10:44
Originally posted by King Manuel King Manuel wrote:

James LaBrie on When Dream and Day Unite - the Official Bootleg, turns one of my favourite albums into  a unlistenable expierence ...

i love that version of metropolis pt 1 though


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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: February 14 2011 at 11:16
Sigur Ros' whining and moaning... Repulsive. 




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Posted By: King Manuel
Date Posted: February 14 2011 at 11:34
Originally posted by topographicbroadways topographicbroadways wrote:

Originally posted by King Manuel King Manuel wrote:

James LaBrie on When Dream and Day Unite - the Official Bootleg, turns one of my favourite albums into  a unlistenable expierence ...

i love that version of metropolis pt 1 though
 
Agree that track is quite ok (must be because James gets support from Charlie Dominici Wink )


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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: February 14 2011 at 12:07
Bob Dylan.....sounds like a muskrat with laryngitus.
Tom Petty.....sounds like a muskrat with laryngitus.
Robert Plant (live)....sounds like a British muskrat with laryngitus.
James LaBrie (live)....sounds like a Canadian muskrat with laryngitus.
 


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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: February 14 2011 at 12:14
Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:


Robert Plant (live)....sounds like a British muskrat with laryngitus.

 

We don't have muskrats. We are not a Disney film.Stern Smile


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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: February 14 2011 at 12:16
Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Bob Dylan.....sounds like a muskrat with laryngitus.
Tom Petty.....sounds like a muskrat with laryngitus.
Robert Plant (live)....sounds like a British muskrat with laryngitus.
James LaBrie (live)....sounds like a Canadian muskrat with laryngitus.
 

There is a contradiction here. As much as Labrie might suck, he still sings, I mean, he is able to produce actual musical tones with his singing. I would say Plant and Petty also can. Dylan, on the other hand...... 


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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: February 14 2011 at 15:51
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:


Robert Plant (live)....sounds like a British muskrat with laryngitus.

 

We don't have muskrats. We are not a Disney film.Stern Smile
 
Fine.....
 
Robert Plant (live)....sounds like a British [fill in preferred animal found in your region] with laryngitus.
 
Big smile


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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: February 14 2011 at 15:55
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Bob Dylan.....sounds like a muskrat with laryngitus.
Tom Petty.....sounds like a muskrat with laryngitus.
Robert Plant (live)....sounds like a British muskrat with laryngitus.
James LaBrie (live)....sounds like a Canadian muskrat with laryngitus.
 

There is a contradiction here. As much as Labrie might suck, he still sings, I mean, he is able to produce actual musical tones with his singing. I would say Plant and Petty also can. Dylan, on the other hand...... 
 
LaBrie does not suck...IMHO...Great studio voice...IMHO.
I don't own a single note from Tom Petty for reasons stated above.
Plant has a great studio voice also....IMHO
 
 


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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: February 14 2011 at 16:17

My vote goes to anything with John Wetton as vocalist.  I can't stand his singing in King Crimson, and Asia didn't really improve matters. Dead



Posted By: boo boo
Date Posted: February 14 2011 at 16:27

*Waaaaah this vocalist sucks because he's not clean, technical and boring*



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Posted By: boo boo
Date Posted: February 14 2011 at 16:31
Originally posted by MrEdifus MrEdifus wrote:

Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

 

That's just fine  until they get to the "HAIL TO POWER" part.
 
That's my favorite part. Big smile
 
Granted it sounds a lot cooler on the studio version with the kind of effects being used.


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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: February 14 2011 at 16:37
^^That song is pretty awesome.  The vocal harmonies don't bother me that much with GG because their music is just ridiculously amazing.


Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: February 14 2011 at 17:02
Steve Howe's lead vocals on "Beginnings" still give me nightmares!!   "Australia" comes to mind immediately.

He'd best stick to backing vocals I think!


Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: February 14 2011 at 17:04
I quite like Steve's singing. At least, I have no problem with it.

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Posted By: RoyFairbank
Date Posted: February 14 2011 at 17:33
As long as its clean I can probably deal with it. Affection and Forced vocals and stuff is undoable. Muse's vocals (to name a news-worthy example at the moment) are pretty bad to me for the former reason, while you know there are a million examples in the metal and alt realm of forced vocals.

Both have simply taken over post-80s. I hate listening to affected and forced vocals. Worst affected I can think of: green day, worst forced, male, I don't know nickleback?????? who are they???? Female forced means Christina Aguliera, female affected means those whispery, accented things with the strummed guitars ... my crap I hate them.

The grammys were a minefield people, a minefield....


Posted By: Anirml
Date Posted: February 14 2011 at 17:35
Originally posted by boo boo boo boo wrote:

Originally posted by MrEdifus MrEdifus wrote:

Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

 

That's just fine  until they get to the "HAIL TO POWER" part.
 
That's my favorite part. Big smile
 
Granted it sounds a lot cooler on the studio version with the kind of effects being used.


I love GG alot too. At first I really disliked the vocals but it gets better with time. Now I think it's amazing lol.

Only Pro progger's like GG's vocals.


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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: February 14 2011 at 17:38
Hi,
 
So sad to even hear someone ask this question ... it's not even about the music, or the feeling any more ... Sid and Johnny, you were idiots, and the majority of rap folks morons, and anyone that warbled a note is a jerk. On top of it, most rock music spent its time making fun of the "classic" idea that you had to be perfect this and that ... I can't help think that this is a mis-guided question and the thread should be removed.
 
Bob Dylan has never claimed to be a "singer" .. he's more of a poet than anything else. So anyone expecting singing by him, is not someone that has any idea what Bob is all about, and obviously is NOT listening! Like Peter Hammill and Roy Harper, this is not about singing ... it's about expression, and if you think otherwise, the joke is on you ... they don't care what you think, and neither would I!
 
James LaBrie is not a bad singer ... he just suffers from garage band sound systems when DT goes on tour, and he can't be heard, or he has to go over a guitar and a drummer that thought he was better than the band ... in the records themselves he is fine. The only weird thing is his stuff on his own solo albums ... I think he wishes he was either Jonny or Sid, and we're to guess which ... in the end, he's just not that talented, but he can hold his own on DT, the lousy sound tours not withstanding. He sounded good when they went with Queensryche ... he has sounded horrendous on stage since!


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Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: February 14 2011 at 18:16
Originally posted by Anirml Anirml wrote:

Originally posted by boo boo boo boo wrote:

Originally posted by MrEdifus MrEdifus wrote:

Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

 

That's just fine  until they get to the "HAIL TO POWER" part.
 
That's my favorite part. Big smile
 
Granted it sounds a lot cooler on the studio version with the kind of effects being used.


I love GG alot too. At first I really disliked the vocals but it gets better with time. Now I think it's amazing lol.

Only Pro progger's like GG's vocals.
The Hail to Power part is also my favorite part of the song


Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: February 14 2011 at 18:25
Originally posted by Anirml Anirml wrote:

Originally posted by boo boo boo boo wrote:

Originally posted by MrEdifus MrEdifus wrote:

Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

 

That's just fine  until they get to the "HAIL TO POWER" part.
 
That's my favorite part. Big smile
 
Granted it sounds a lot cooler on the studio version with the kind of effects being used.


I love GG alot too. At first I really disliked the vocals but it gets better with time. Now I think it's amazing lol.

Only Pro progger's like GG's vocals.
In the past ive really wanted to try to get into GG, and this site's praise to the band only encouraged it. But i just can't get past the vocals of the band. Is this song a unique "showcase" to their vocal style or no?
 
If there are songs/albums that differ in singing, i'd like to know.
 


Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: February 14 2011 at 18:38
Originally posted by King Manuel King Manuel wrote:

James LaBrie on When Dream and Day Unite - the Official Bootleg, turns one of my favourite albums into  a unlistenable expierence ...
At least it ain't Dominici, perhaps my least favourite singer in the history of music.


Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: February 14 2011 at 19:06
Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Steve Howe's lead vocals on "Beginnings" still give me nightmares!!   "Australia" comes to mind immediately.

He'd best stick to backing vocals I think!

I love Steve's guitar but the vocals here:



Sound like a bad joke or a wounded cat, doesn't hit a single note and unlike in the case of Gentle Giant it's not intentional.

The guy is a great guitarist, but he shouldn't be allowed to sing in the shower.

Iván


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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: February 14 2011 at 21:54
Originally posted by boo boo boo boo wrote:

*Waaaaah this vocalist sucks because he's not clean, technical and boring*


*Waaaaah this opinion bugs me because everybody has to think like me* 



Wink


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Posted By: boo boo
Date Posted: February 15 2011 at 00:27
Yeah Howe is a terrible lead singer, but he does provide interesting texture as a background vocalist.
 
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Originally posted by boo boo boo boo wrote:

*Waaaaah this vocalist sucks because he's not clean, technical and boring*


*Waaaaah this opinion bugs me because everybody has to think like me* 



Wink
 
Yeah, pretty much.


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Posted By: npjnpj
Date Posted: February 15 2011 at 02:43

OK, 2 points.

1) If you don't like Proclamation (or that version of it), you either haven't 'got' that song, Gentle Giant themselves, or both (neither?).

2) I hate the spelling police just like the next man, but for crissakes, the word is: laryngitis. I wouldn't bother except this post has been repeated and varied so much the last few pages, it seems to have been done to specifically annoy me. Sorry 



Posted By: Jake Kobrin
Date Posted: February 15 2011 at 02:54
Originally posted by 40footwolf 40footwolf wrote:

I've seen Dream Theater live opening for Iron Maiden and I've heard the studio albums. I actually think he's BETTER live since his vocals tend to get drowned out by Pertucci and Portnoy. His voice is just terrible.

I'm going to disagree with this. When I saw DT, they bumped up the vocals to a very high level and it was ear and brain disrupting. I actually had to leave early because it was giving me a headache (despite having ear plugs.) 


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Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: February 15 2011 at 02:56
Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

 
What, Gentle Giant, ahahaha you are such a novice in musicShocked


Posted By: sarge
Date Posted: February 15 2011 at 03:32
easy - anything with Peter Gabriel!


Posted By: Anthony
Date Posted: February 15 2011 at 03:52
Roger Waters and Fish

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Posted By: thehallway
Date Posted: February 15 2011 at 04:22
Originally posted by Evolver Evolver wrote:

While Neal Morse sometimes sounds too much like Tom Petty to me, I don't find his vocals painful.
 
Any death metal growls make me cringe.
James LaBrie sometimes gets too shrill.
The vocals on Rick Wakeman's  "King Arthur" album always annoy me.
 
 
Those King Arthur vocals are great!
 
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Posted By: BarryGlibb
Date Posted: February 15 2011 at 04:59
Presently it is Ian Anderson from Jethro Tull.

Which is unfortunate as he had such a great voice up until 1984.

Now it is just embarrassing. He sounds like Pop-eye the sailor man.

He should just flute, acoustic guitar and let the boys play instrumentals.


Have a watch and listen to Hunting Girl from 2003 below to prove my case. Fantastic music but oh the vocals.




Posted By: Junges
Date Posted: February 15 2011 at 07:18
Gnidrolog (Don't remember the name of the vocalist), especially on the song "I Could Never Be a Soldier" from Lady Lake. It seems that he sings with a watermelon in his ass.


Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: February 15 2011 at 07:19
^LOL

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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: February 15 2011 at 08:11
Originally posted by npjnpj npjnpj wrote:

OK, 2 points.

1) If you don't like Proclamation (or that version of it), you either haven't 'got' that song, Gentle Giant themselves, or both (neither?).



Well, I don't like Proclamation (Live or Studio) and neither Gentle Giant, IMO they are extremely annoying.

And I tried to like them, have most of their albums, the Giant in the Box DVD, but not even then.

Iván


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Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: February 15 2011 at 08:25
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Originally posted by npjnpj npjnpj wrote:

OK, 2 points.

1) If you don't like Proclamation (or that version of it), you either haven't 'got' that song, Gentle Giant themselves, or both (neither?).



Well, I don't like Proclamation (Live or Studio) and neither Gentle Giant, IMO they are extremely annoying.

And I tried to like them, have most of their albums, the Giant in the Box DVD, but not even then.

Iván

You gave Three Friends 4 stars and Acquiring The Taste 3, so you mustn't find them all that bad.  


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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: February 15 2011 at 08:30
Originally posted by irrelevant irrelevant wrote:

Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Originally posted by npjnpj npjnpj wrote:

OK, 2 points.

1) If you don't like Proclamation (or that version of it), you either haven't 'got' that song, Gentle Giant themselves, or both (neither?).



Well, I don't like Proclamation (Live or Studio) and neither Gentle Giant, IMO they are extremely annoying.

And I tried to like them, have most of their albums, the Giant in the Box DVD, but not even then.

Iván

You gave Three Friends 4 stars and Acquiring The Taste 3, so you mustn't find them all that bad.  

I recognized the quality of the albums, that doesn't mean I like them.....I just ry to be fair and rate an album despite
 my personal taste

As a fact, I said about Acquiring the Taste:

Quote Now, it's not easy to rate this album, because despite some songs are brilliant, others make me want to turn off the stereo, despite this facts, I believe "Acquiring the Taste" is above the average, but not enough for 4 stars, so I will have to go with 3 that would be 3.5 if the system allowed it.

And about Three Friends

Quote I'm sure I will never be a hardcore fan of GENTLE GIANT, because albums like "Octopus" 
will not captivate me, but I would be absolutely dishonest if I don't accept that   "Three 
Friends" didn't made me want o destroy the stereo..............Four solid stars for a great album, no matter what I think about the band.

I believe I was clear

Iván




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Posted By: thehallway
Date Posted: February 15 2011 at 08:35
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Originally posted by irrelevant irrelevant wrote:

Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Originally posted by npjnpj npjnpj wrote:

OK, 2 points.

1) If you don't like Proclamation (or that version of it), you either haven't 'got' that song, Gentle Giant themselves, or both (neither?).



Well, I don't like Proclamation (Live or Studio) and neither Gentle Giant, IMO they are extremely annoying.

And I tried to like them, have most of their albums, the Giant in the Box DVD, but not even then.

Iván

You gave Three Friends 4 stars and Acquiring The Taste 3, so you mustn't find them all that bad.  

I recognized the quality of the albums, that doesn't mean I like them.....I just ry to be fair and rate an album despite my personal taste

Iván

 

Trying to be objective in a review is as futile as trying to convince Rick Wakeman to get a hair cut........ LOL



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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: February 15 2011 at 08:42
Originally posted by thehallway thehallway wrote:


 

Trying to be objective in a review is as futile as trying to convince Rick Wakeman to get a hair cut........ LOL


I don't believe so, I always try to be fair and as objective as possible.

Iván


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Posted By: Bonnek
Date Posted: February 15 2011 at 09:32

Eloy, I'd like them twice as much if they had a proper vocalist.


Posted By: EatThatPhonebook
Date Posted: February 15 2011 at 09:38
I'm not crazy about the singer of Isis, despite I really love their music. His growls are the worst part. 

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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: February 16 2011 at 07:32
Originally posted by sarge sarge wrote:

easy - anything with Peter Gabriel!

LOL!  I once met the late/great acoustic guitarist MIchael Hedges, who told me that Gabriel's voice before digital delay & other studio processing was horrible!!  

I guess I like horrible then!  Amazingly unique sound.  

I liked Gary Pickford-Hopkins with Glenn Cornick's band "Wild Turkey," but didn't think his vocals fit the mood of Wakeman's much maligned "Journey to the Center of the Earth."   More a case of bad fit vs. bad vocals.  

Colin Carter from Flash has been trashed by some, but I quite enjoy his vocal style & have been listening to Flash quite a bit lately, as they are coming out with a new CD soon.  

Their first album has some real gems hidden away, such as "Dreams of Heaven" (Banks does a GREAT job & channels his former flat-mate, Bob Fripp!).   Highly recommended if you want something different.


Posted By: boo boo
Date Posted: February 16 2011 at 08:13
Yeah, Gabriel, Waters and Fish are terrible vocalists. Ermm 
 
Up is down, down is up. And the color of oranges is blue.


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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: February 16 2011 at 08:17
Originally posted by boo boo boo boo wrote:

Yeah, Gabriel, Waters and Fish are terrible vocalists. Ermm 
 
Up is down, down is up. And the color of oranges is blue.

I understand people saying Howe and Hackett and Latimer are bad singers, even though I truly and honestly enjoy their singing....but yeah......you're right.


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Posted By: clarke2001
Date Posted: February 16 2011 at 08:28
Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Bob Dylan.....sounds like a muskrat with laryngitus.
Tom Petty.....sounds like a muskrat with laryngitus.
Robert Plant (live)....sounds like a British muskrat with laryngitus.
James LaBrie (live)....sounds like a Canadian muskrat with laryngitus.
 



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Posted By: boo boo
Date Posted: February 16 2011 at 08:32

Well I'm not crazy about Howe as a lead singer, but his backing vocals were an essential element to what made Yes's harmonies so great, his deeper voice adds an interesting contrast to Anderson's alto and Squire's falsetto.

I like Latimer's vocals too. He's not a very impressive singer technique-wise, but he has a cool relaxed voice that fits the music well.
 
As for Hackett, I don't remember what his vocals sound like. Embarrassed


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Posted By: TLM170
Date Posted: February 16 2011 at 14:33

spiral architect!

 
but I'll take james labrie side! I have is first solo album and i love it and all the DT to but its just a matter of opinion!


Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: February 17 2011 at 16:19
Originally posted by clarke2001 clarke2001 wrote:

Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Bob Dylan.....sounds like a muskrat with laryngitus.
Tom Petty.....sounds like a muskrat with laryngitus.
Robert Plant (live)....sounds like a British muskrat with laryngitus.
James LaBrie (live)....sounds like a Canadian muskrat with laryngitus.
 



Hey! Do you have something against muskrats ?!?




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Posted By: boo boo
Date Posted: February 17 2011 at 21:08
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Originally posted by thehallway thehallway wrote:


 

Trying to be objective in a review is as futile as trying to convince Rick Wakeman to get a hair cut........ LOL


I don't believe so, I always try to be fair and as objective as possible.

Iván
 
Why do you consider that such a meaningful task? I find it fairly pointless. You CAN'T be objective about music. Music is just a bunch of sound that can either be arranged or improvised, how stimulating it is depends on the ears and our brains are wired differently to find different things pleasurable. What might be a bunch of racket to one person could be the most beautiful piece of music ever to another.
 
And since I find a lot of your reviews highly disagreeable, "objective" isn't really the word I would use. No matter how hard you try, everything you say is still your subjective opinion.


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