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Topic: A song that posible gave birth to another song
Posted By: Icarium
Subject: A song that posible gave birth to another song
Date Posted: March 29 2011 at 11:11
I think everyone here have heard Don't Speak by No Doubt, and probably more have heard Breakfast in America by Supertramp, i wonder... is it just me or is their some similaritis in the intros (and maybe some of the song structures from BiA on to Don't Speal.) why I raise this question is becouse both become big hits on their own in different decades, but I can't lett go the thought that, the members of No Doubt have listend to the Pop song by Supertramp and have used bits and pieces from it, not wery obvious but subtle (im not sure Roger is awere of it), i like both songs anyway,
 
but that don't take away my urge to ask if others can hear the similarities,
 
 
 


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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: March 29 2011 at 11:35
Upon hearing "Don't Speak", and I'd never heard the song, or heard of the band that I recall, Äerosmith's "Dream On" was the first music to spring to mind.


Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: March 29 2011 at 11:40
"Stairway to Heaven" by Led Zeppelin exists because of an instrumental called "Taurus" by Spirit.  Even the lyrics hint at this.

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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: March 29 2011 at 11:40
but just listen to boths intros their is a clear similarities from the guitar In the one song and the piano chords from the other song Tongue

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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: March 29 2011 at 11:44
Just to embed a vid for the song that sprung to my mind when hearing "Don't Speak":



Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: March 29 2011 at 15:21
Perhaps inspired a little bit by the hippy trippy vibe of this gem


Posted By: rupert
Date Posted: February 08 2012 at 19:46
You may all know that "White Bird" by It's a Beautiful Day has hugely inspired Deep Purple's "Child in Time",
or that "Nights in white Satin" from the Moody Blues as well as "The great 1964 Mining Disaster" by the Bee Gees had more than a little impact on BJH's "Poor Man's moody Blues" and "The great 1974 Mining Disaster".
What always annoyed me a bit was "What's up" from the 4 Non Blondes reminded me a lot of "Don't worry, be happy" ( Bobby McFerrin ) and I couldn't help thinking of Natalie Imbrulgia's "Torn" when I heard that "Hit" ( don't remember the name ) from James Blunt last year.



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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: March 13 2012 at 11:51
Originally posted by rupert rupert wrote:

You may all know that "White Bird" by It's a Beautiful Day has hugely inspired Deep Purple's "Child in Time",
 
 
And IABD have acknowledged in liner notes on CD reissues, thet they borrowed liberally from J. S Bach...............................
 


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Posted By: The Bearded Bard
Date Posted: March 13 2012 at 12:06
Tull's 'We Used To Know' inspired The Eagles to write 'Hotel California'?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xny0Uj4--tk" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xny0Uj4--tk


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Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: March 13 2012 at 12:15
Triumvirat's "Lucky Girl" was definitely inspired by ELP's "Lucky Man"


Posted By: ole-the-first
Date Posted: March 13 2012 at 12:30




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Posted By: zappaholic
Date Posted: March 13 2012 at 18:42
And we all know that Andrew Lloyd Webber ripped off the "Phantom Of the Opera" theme from Pink Floyd's "Echoes".....



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Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: March 13 2012 at 19:02
 
 


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Posted By: BarryGlibb
Date Posted: March 13 2012 at 22:59
Blowin' Free by Wishbone Ash influenced Reelin' in The Years by Steely Dan????

Many people think so....very, very similar in parts.


Posted By: Ambient Hurricanes
Date Posted: March 13 2012 at 23:45
I'm not sure about this, but the main orchestral motif from Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence sounds a lot like something in Yngwie Malmsteen's Concerto Suite for Electric Guitar and Orchestra.

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Posted By: OT Räihälä
Date Posted: March 14 2012 at 00:47
There's a well-known relation between The Beatles's Sexy Sadie and Radiohead's Karma Police, mainly in the piano part.

Funny how differently we hear things: I listened to that Matthew's Southern Comfort tune from Spotify (previously unknown track to me), and in melody, harmony, rhythm, sound or atmosphere - I find Nothing At All in common with that Gentle Giant song, except that they both belong to pop music.


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Posted By: VanVanVan
Date Posted: March 14 2012 at 01:45



Probably just a coincidence, though. LOL


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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: March 14 2012 at 02:22
I know of many though it's sometimes unclear as to source vs. parallel art--  the basslines in 'Taxman' and Floyd's 'Money' are close enough to warrant scrutiny but different enough to pass as originalthe bass to Rufus's 'Tell Me Something Good' and the Seinfeld theme are exactly the same just different speeds Zep's 'Thank You' and Tim Hardin's 'If I Were a Carpenter' are very close, the Tim Hardin coming first of course (and we know Plant is a Hardin fan).




Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: March 14 2012 at 03:51
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

I know of many though it's sometimes unclear as to source vs. parallel art--  the basslines in 'Taxman' and Floyd's 'Money' are close enough to warrant scrutiny but different enough to pass as originalthe bass to Rufus's 'Tell Me Something Good' and the Seinfeld theme are exactly the same just different speeds Zep's 'Thank You' and Tim Hardin's 'If I Were a Carpenter' are very close, the Tim Hardin coming first of course (and we know Plant is a Hardin fan).

Gee, what about the Zeps? Tons of people know that they were really ripping off other artists at the time. They really couldn't get away with things like 'Black Mountain Side' Big smile . Funny enough, Johnny Ramone used a solo from 'Dazed and Confused', but that's another story.


Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: March 14 2012 at 04:20
They were thieves but so was almost every other white blues artist (the Stones? Doors? Who? you better believe it), and I think Zeppelin ended up giving to blues more than taking from it--  and lest we forget, as you suggest, how much they influenced rock and were in turn stolen from.   But they didn't make a big fuss about it, about Aerosmith and Heart and Van Halen and the Black Crowes and all the countless smaller bands that can directly trace their sound to Zep.

That concludes this Ledhed rant.  Thank you.



Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: March 14 2012 at 08:18
Originally posted by BarryGlibb BarryGlibb wrote:

Blowin' Free by Wishbone Ash influenced Reelin' in The Years by Steely Dan????

Many people think so....very, very similar in parts.


And furthermore, I can hear a lot of "Reelin'" in Nick Lowe's hit "So it Goes"  Same descending chord progression.


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Posted By: giselle
Date Posted: March 14 2012 at 09:59
According to Terry Ellis (manager of both bands), the idea for the song "Living in the Past" by Jethro Tull came from a line in the song "Scrapbook" by Clouds.


Posted By: The Bearded Bard
Date Posted: March 14 2012 at 12:32
Return To Forever's 'Spain' was inspired by Miles Davis' 'Concierto De Aranjuez (Adagio)'.
 
Spain:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_OEJ0wqt2g" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_OEJ0wqt2g
 
Concierto De Aranjuez (Adagio):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kSmLTmS1xI" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kSmLTmS1xI


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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: March 14 2012 at 12:37
Originally posted by The Bearded Bard The Bearded Bard wrote:

Return To Forever's 'Spain' was inspired by Miles Davis' 'Concierto De Aranjuez (Adagio)'.
 
Spain:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_OEJ0wqt2g" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_OEJ0wqt2g
 
Concierto De Aranjuez (Adagio):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kSmLTmS1xI" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kSmLTmS1xI

Concierto de Aranjuez is NOT by Miles Davis nor Gil Evans. It's by Joaquin Rodrigo, from 1932. But yeah, you've got your point.


Posted By: The Bearded Bard
Date Posted: March 14 2012 at 12:45
Originally posted by The Quiet One The Quiet One wrote:

Concierto de Aranjuez is NOT by Miles Davis nor Gil Evans. It's by Joaquin Rodrigo, from 1932. But yeah, you've got your point.
You're right! Thanks for the correction.

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Posted By: BarryGlibb
Date Posted: March 14 2012 at 19:31
Originally posted by HolyMoly HolyMoly wrote:

Originally posted by BarryGlibb BarryGlibb wrote:

Blowin' Free by Wishbone Ash influenced Reelin' in The Years by Steely Dan????

Many people think so....very, very similar in parts.


And furthermore, I can hear a lot of "Reelin'" in Nick Lowe's hit "So it Goes"  Same descending chord progression.


OK let's compare these. The melody of Blowin Free is definitely there in Reelin in The Years but what clinches the comparison is the last 30 -40 secs of Blowin Free (try from 4.30 onwards). Argus was released at least 6 months before Can't Buy a Thrill. So the Steely Dan boys had time to soak in the whole track. I must say however that Blowin Free to me has always been fairly boring while Reelin in the Years is a out and out classic. And that is coming from a Wishbone appreciator with little interest in Steely Dan.






Here's Nick Lowe's "So it Goes"...maybe?......but not as similar as the above 2 IMHO.







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