VdGG vs Jethro Tull
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Topic: VdGG vs Jethro Tull
Posted By: Varon
Subject: VdGG vs Jethro Tull
Date Posted: April 10 2011 at 13:32
I think it will be interesting to see the results  ------------- Would you catch the final words of mine? Would you catch my words??? |
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Posted By: akaBona
Date Posted: April 10 2011 at 13:34
| Jethro Tull. |
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: April 10 2011 at 13:36
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Presumably, you're asking for our favourite, in which case my answer would be Tull about 95% of the time, and the other 5% VDGG when I am really in that kind of zone and mood. It is a little bit difficult to create a poll with such varying bands isn't it? They barely have anything in common. ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time! |
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: April 10 2011 at 13:36
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Tull without blinking an eye. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: April 10 2011 at 13:39
| JT |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: April 10 2011 at 13:45
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Van der Graaf Generator. ------------- 
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Posted By: Varon
Date Posted: April 10 2011 at 13:48
That's why I created this poll) Hammill is the directed opposite of Anderson IMO (though I love both) ------------- Would you catch the final words of mine? Would you catch my words??? |
lazland wrote:Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: April 10 2011 at 13:51
Fair comment. I was just curious  ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time! |
Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: April 10 2011 at 14:04
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A Passion Play sounds like the album Van der Graaf Generator could have done but never did. I definitely prefer Jethro Tull.
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Posted By: beebs
Date Posted: April 10 2011 at 14:24
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Jethro!! ------------- "Nothing is at last sacred but the integrity of one's own mind" * Ralph Waldo Emerson |
Posted By: Morningrise
Date Posted: April 10 2011 at 14:36
| If we are talking about classic Prog bands, as much as I love Jethro Tull, and I already have my ticket to see Ian Anderson next month, VdGG could only lose against Genesis to my tastes. |
Posted By: Prog Geo
Date Posted: April 10 2011 at 14:37
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Jethro tull!
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Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: April 10 2011 at 14:47
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Tulls are absolutely better for me (although I don´t like their whole work unconditionally and some of this one I simply can´t stand).
I like also, they don´t take themselves too seriously like metaphysical, philosophical and over-combined Graafs. ------------- A Elbereth Gilthoniel silivren penna míriel o menel aglar elenath! Na-chaered palan-díriel o galadhremmin ennorath, Fanuilos, le linnathon nef aear, sí nef aearon! |
Posted By: KingBee852
Date Posted: April 10 2011 at 15:14
| Jethro Tull, no question. |
Posted By: thehallway
Date Posted: April 10 2011 at 15:18
Over-combined? What does that mean?? ------------- http://www.thefreshfilmblog.com/" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: ProgBob
Date Posted: April 10 2011 at 15:20
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I've listened to Tull on and off for over 30 years but have never been inspired to buy much more than a greatest hits and Aqualung (I've heard a lot more but it doesn't do a lot for me). I have got into VDGG quite heavily just in the last few months so that's what I'm going for. I have to say, though, I really don't see the point of polls like this! ------------- Bob |
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: April 10 2011 at 15:22
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VDGG ! It's not even close. ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: Jitterbug
Date Posted: April 10 2011 at 15:24
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Jethro Tull
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Posted By: Varon
Date Posted: April 10 2011 at 15:42
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Go VdGG, GOOOOOOOO!!! ------------- Would you catch the final words of mine? Would you catch my words??? |
Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: April 10 2011 at 16:22
Nice to see Euler's equation as avatar. The most beautiful formula in mathematics, combining the five most important numbers with the three basic arithmetic operations - addition, multiplication and exponentiation.. And what an amazing result - who would guess that in a formula with pi (3.14159265359....) and e (2.718281828459045...) and the spooky square root of -1 you would get such a result? -------------  BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: April 10 2011 at 18:10
I love both, but VdGG is my absolute favorit prog band, so they usualy gets my vote.  ------------- 
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Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: April 10 2011 at 18:13
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Couldn't really choose one or the other. Love both too much. ------------- http://blindpoetrecords.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow">  
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: April 10 2011 at 18:16
| VdGG |
Posted By: Lark the Starless
Date Posted: April 10 2011 at 18:54
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VDGG as well. ------------- 
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Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: April 10 2011 at 19:12
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Posted By: The Monodrone
Date Posted: April 10 2011 at 19:25
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VdGG without a doubt... I have to be in a certain mood for Tull, usually. -------------  
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Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: April 10 2011 at 19:35
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VdGG for sure!
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Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: April 10 2011 at 20:58
| Tull pretty comfortably. VDGG were mainly cool from 1975-1978. I also love H to He, but I never rated pawn hearts that highly. Lighthouse keepers becomes a bit boring after the first minutes and Lemmings is a bit hit and miss |
Posted By: Harry Hood
Date Posted: April 10 2011 at 21:13
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One of the most influential and original progressive rock bands ever vs. A one note gimmick band with an eccentric gimmicky frontman. How is this even a close vote? By the way, David Jackson is the superior flautist. Ian Anderson is the flute equivalent of Michael Angelo Batio. Tasteless and overly flashy for flashiness sake. David Jackson's flute parts are far more tasteful and beautiful. ------------- 
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Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: April 10 2011 at 22:02
Don't think so. Those 5 songs in the 70s that jackson played flute must have been amazingly good pieces of flute playing
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: April 10 2011 at 22:51
Influential to whom? The group of zealots on this forum who have actually heard of them? The little band of Canterbury groupies who actually wasted their allowances to buy their albums in the 70s? They could have really used your help back when it mattered. Hell, their record company even gave up on them.
"A one note gimmick band"? Tull explored a vaster array of music, from blues to jazz to hard rock to progressive to folk. And guess what? They actually sold albums -- millions of them -- because Ian Anderson composed songs that a wide cross-section of people loved. I know you're shocked, but yes there are those who enjoy listening to songs that don't meander all over hell with singing that would give an opera director a nervous twitch -- perhaps even a stroke. VdGG in large enough doses can cause anything from eczema to grand mall seizures in AD/HD patients.
Well, considering this forum has the highest concentration of VdGG fans in the world, I am sure all fifty will vote for their band.
By the way, Ian Anderson is also a master acoustic guitarist, a damn good blues harpist, not to mention adept at mandolin, mandocello, saxophone and bass guitar. As far as David Jackson, is he still working as a school teacher in order to make ends meet when he can't find a gig? Whatever. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: Varon
Date Posted: April 11 2011 at 08:56
 Fifty? Show me them please. I khow about 6 or 8 the - rest just prefer VdGG to JT and they are not real fans( ------------- Would you catch the final words of mine? Would you catch my words??? |
Posted By: silcir
Date Posted: April 11 2011 at 09:07
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JT. |
Posted By: bucka001
Date Posted: April 11 2011 at 10:07
You're so far off that it's amazing. I don't know how old you are, but when hipper-that-thou media critics and frightenly fashionable punks were making fun of bands like Jethro Tull, ELP, and Yes, Van der Graaf Generator and Hammill were (along with King Crimson) the bands it was "okay" to like. Love punk or hate it, it's a very respected genre (much more so than prog) and some of the heaviest players are VdGG fanatics and have acknowledged VdGG's influence: Johnny Rotten, Jello Biafra (Dead Kennedys), Mark E. Smith (The Fall), Don Bolles (The Germs), the Dead Milkmen, and several others. Peter Hammill's Nadir's Big Chance (recorded in '74) was a big influence on the punk movement and still sounds fresh today; I could never imagine Ian Anderson making this album.
Since VdGG's reformation in '05, they've gotten astonishing press from several mainstream British rock mags (and newspapers ranging from the London Times, which called them Britain's Velvet Underground in that they didn't sell millions of records, but had an astonishing influence on a wide array of musicians, to The Independent). Mojo has ran several positive pieces on VdGG, Uncut ran a nice long article calling VdGG "the coolest, strangest band in prog," Guitar & Bass (which is the British equivalent of America's Guitar Player, which also ran a lengthy Hammill/VdGG article recently) did a nice article, and The Wire (which would probably never do an article on ELP or Gentle Giant) did a huge piece on PH/VdGG recently. Even Rolling Stone in the U.S. gave Present a good review. There are several others but you get the drift. Classic Rock Magazine (and not the prog edition) listed Hammill among their 50 British Icons of Rock. And Mojo recently had Hammill present an award at their annual awards dinner (the Emcee gave PH a wonderful, reverent introduction and the audience, which included Jimmy Page, Roger Daltry, Harry Shearer, Emmy Lou Harris, and literally hundreds more, burst into applause).
NPR broadcasted a segment of All Things Considered recently dedicated to Hammill/VdGG where it was stated that VdGG was the one prog band that 'got it right.' I don't necessarily agree with that, but...
People influenced by the band (and I've interviewed several of these people and have uncovered more to interview for the second VdGG book) include best-selling authors (Ian Rankin, Michel Faber), record producers (Hugh Padgham, Tchad Blake, George Martin [who told me he loved VdGG's version of Theme One], Jack Endino [Nirvana, Soundgarden, etc]), movie directors (Jonathan Demme, Anthony Minghella, Vincent Gallo), and tons of musicians: Nels Cline (Wilco), John Frusciante (Red Hot Chili Peppers), Graham Coxon (Blur), Simon Gallup (The Cure), Julian Cope, Bruce Dickinson (Iron Maiden), Marc Almond (Soft Cell), Colin Newman (Wire), Gary Lucas (Beefheart's Magic Band), Chris Carter (Throbbing Gristle), Ivan Krall (Patti Smith Group), Jon Langford (Mekons, Waco Brothers), Guy Severs (Univers Zero), Geddy Lee (Rush), Thighpaulsandra (Spiritualized), Stephen Morris (New Order, Joy Division), and These New Puritans. There are tons more
Many of these are artists who claim to not like prog, but like VdGG (which I think is good for prog overall; Gary Lucas told me that Pawn Hearts gave credibility to the words 'progressive rock').
I flew to Europe several times since '05 to see and hang out with the band. It's astonishing how different it is there from here in the U.S. The band was playing 1,500 - 3,000 seat arenas and doing well in them (again, it's not the new Dallas stadium but it's respectable enough). And even on their one and only U.S. tour two years ago, they played several shows in front of 400 people or so (and thousands in Canada).
Even if you or your friends don't know much about them (I know a lot of people who believe that prog is only Tull, Yes, ELP, Genesis, and Crimson... and believe that anything else must just be real obscure if they haven't heard it), you're way off the mark about VdGG's massive influence. ------------- jc |
Posted By: bucka001
Date Posted: April 11 2011 at 10:16
And that's bad how?
Seriously, though, you're from Michigan. VdGG never played the States in their heyday* so you (if you were even old enough) probably would think that no one but fifty people on this forum like them. But they're probably one of the most respected of the prog acts (though not most successful) in terms of the journalists and many musicians.
As far as their record company giving up on them, I don't know what you mean. Charisma never gave up on them. In fact they were Tony Stratton Smith's favorite band. Genesis were his most successful, but they took a back seat to VdGG as far as Strat's faves were concerned.
Virgin/EMI was only a two record deal and VdGG didn't want to renew it (with the lack of promotion for Trisector, I don't blame them; Virgin/EMI did do a great job with Present, though)
*They played one concert at NYC's Beacon Theater on October 18, 1976, a sold out show in front of over 2,000 rabid VdGG fanatics. It was at this concert where reps from Mercury Records, VdGG's U.S. label, showed up backstage wanting to congratulate the band. In a legendary move, and one that only adds to the Stratton Smith lore (!), Strat accosted the Mercury reps, calling them every name in the book at the top of his lungs because of their lack of support for VdGG in the States. After that, no more Mercury for VdGG! ------------- jc |
Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: April 11 2011 at 10:24
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TULL ! ------------- Prog On! |
Posted By: Harold-The-Barrel
Date Posted: April 11 2011 at 10:35
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Two amazing bands, very different in style, tough choice but i'd have to pop for VdGG though, at the moment i'm pretty obsessed with the darkness of their music...
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Posted By: juandhaltrich
Date Posted: April 11 2011 at 13:13
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i like both bands a lot. vdgg seems to be more consistent in their 'prog' role, so my vote goes for them. but, nevertheless, JT is one of the best examples of prog folk that has ever been out there. not even mentioning that thick as a brick is one of the most accomplished albums of prog rock history. a top 10 album for sure! but in this poll, i go with the 'progressive' criteria, and vdgg seems to explore it a bit deeper. at least that's the way i think it is right now.
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Posted By: yanch
Date Posted: April 11 2011 at 16:34
| Jethro Tull!! |
Posted By: valravennz
Date Posted: April 11 2011 at 17:07
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I like both bands for differing reasons, the main being the diversity and complexity of their work. Jethro Tull's commercialism nicely compliments the obscurity of VDGG. Both bands I regard as enduring and essential listening for progressive rock fans. Their influence on later generations of rock stars, is unquestionable! ------------- 
"Music is the Wine that fills the cup of Silence" - Robert Fripp |
Posted By: BarryGlibb
Date Posted: April 12 2011 at 06:57
Spot on "The Dark Elf" a well constructed argument. You win...Tull forever! |
Posted By: bucka001
Date Posted: April 12 2011 at 09:19
Well, aside from his valid opinion of liking Tull over VdGG, you're wrong BG... it's not a winning (or well-constructed) argument. VdGG has a pretty huge cult following all over the world; on the tour they just finished, they played several shows to 1,500 - 2,500 fans in London, Glasgow, Utrecht, Prague, and concerts in Italy. A short-ish tour, 2 1/2 weeks. Those aren't numbers at all like Tull used to pull (obviously VdGG were a moderately successful band, and Tull were mega-stars) but it's respectable and there are a lot of musicians who would kill for VdGG's "lack of success."
But I'll say this about Big Elf. Great blog/website. And for a guy who doesn't like VdGG (which is totally cool; many of my own friends have a problem with Peter's voice), I thought it very professional that he included Pawn Hearts in his list of important prog albums. Especially when he laid the groundwork for being subjective rather than objective (so, he could have excluded them and been covered by his ground rules). If I was doing a blog or book on important prog albums, there are several that I can't stand that I'd be tempted to exclude, but I would probably put them in at the end of the day because, even if I don't like them, they're important within the genre. So, props to Big Elf (even besides the Pawn Hearts inclusion; it's just a fun blog), he's definitely one up on Bradley Smith (who came out with a terrible prog/art rock book years ago that excluded Gentle Giant and VdGG because he didn't like them) and Will Romano (whose book is also woefully lacking). ------------- jc |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: April 12 2011 at 09:27
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Another case of chalk and cheese..
I tend to listen to more VDGG than Tull. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: DanthraX
Date Posted: April 12 2011 at 09:43
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VdGG all the way!!!! ------------- I look up, I'm almost blinded by the warmth of what's inside me and the taste that's in my soul, but I'm dead inside as I stand alone... |
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: April 12 2011 at 10:14
Why thank you, Buck. Your comments are appreciated. As far as the rancorous hyperbole, I was merely replying in kind to the absurd statement that Tull was "A one note gimmick band with an eccentric gimmicky frontman", which is perhaps the silliest thing I've read on this forum (which is saying a lot, as this forum is brimming with silliness) . We all have our favorites, of course, but it is important to put things in context (even with my admitted subjectivity), and in that sense Pawn Hearts is an amazing album, musically speaking. If it was simply an instrumental recording, I would have rated it even higher on my list.
However, the idiosyncratic singing is the single element of the recording which drove hordes of potential fans away when VdGG was in their prime (and one could say the same thing regarding Gentle Giant to a point). Even an inaccessible album like A Passion Play (which bears some striking similarities to Pawn Hearts) went to #1 in the charts because it offered a more palatable vocal arrangement and the endearing English wit of Ian Anderson. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: bucka001
Date Posted: April 12 2011 at 10:35
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I love Hammill's voice (it was an acquired taste in some cases; the later, harsher stuff took me a while, but I always dug the earlier stuff from the first VdGG era), but I think you are right that they would have been more successful if he'd reigned it in a bit.
Tough call, because many of their fans love the growling vocals, etc., but that definitely has been a deterent when I tried to turn some friends onto them. Others loved it (my friends who liked metal and punk never had a prob with the vocals)
I do know that they were poised to 'break big' in '71 before Pawn Hearts was released. They headlined the Six Bob tour over Genesis and Lindisfarne, they appeared on the cover of Melody Maker as 'Britain's Most Fashionable Band', and the song 'Killer' was fairly well known in a lot of large circles. Then Pawn Hearts was actually released and just befuddled the hell out of the British public. I don't think even accessible vocals would have saved it. It's still a genius piece of work, but it was never going to find mass public favor... except in Europe, where it went to number one in Italy for several weeks* and found favor in a few other countries. So, go figure!
*Wonderful stories about how the band landed in Italy in February of '72, had no idea that both the album Pawn Hearts and the Theme One single were at #1 in the charts, got off the plane, and were greeted by cheering fans waving flags, etc (a sort of scaled down Beatles reception). When they asked the promoter who all the fans were waving at, he replied "You!" And they were like, "Why?"
"Because you're Van der Graaf Generator!!!" The band's reaction was "What??"
Every show was attended by thousands of fans singing along to every tune. At the first gig in Milan, the military was called in to fire smoke bombs and tear gas at the thousands of fans outside of the Teatro Massimo (where the band was playing) because a riot had started among those unable to get tickets for the soldout concert.
Later in '75, they played Rome to 16,500 fans (no support act), and got their trucks, with all of the gear, stolen after the concert. The whole three week tour was cancelled (and they would have made tons of dough) and that, more than anything, really crippled the band's psyche. They were never quite the same mentally after that even though they put out Still Life and World Record in the next year. ------------- jc |
Posted By: Jazzywoman
Date Posted: April 12 2011 at 20:18
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I find VDGG's music much more interesting, satisfying, challenging and consistent than anything I have heard from Tull...but have made some fine music though. Still, Van Der Graaf Generator gets my vote. ------------- 
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Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: April 12 2011 at 21:26
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Though he has undeniably a distinct style, I refuse to put down love-hate reactions to Hammill's singing only to quirk (which is as if to say it's entirely down to the listener and nothing to do with the singing style whatsoever). It is because his delivery is heavily overwrought and melodramatic. Some people love it that way (Bruce Dickinson has millions of fans for instance) and some dislike it. Ian Anderson can also get a bit overwrought but is a lot more reined in in comparison. As for the poll, Tull, I just like them much more. |
Posted By: Progist
Date Posted: April 13 2011 at 12:31
VDGG, but Tull also excellent 
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Posted By: Varon
Date Posted: April 13 2011 at 12:31
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VdGG are the best))))))))))) ------------- Would you catch the final words of mine? Would you catch my words??? |
Posted By: TheLionOfPrague
Date Posted: April 13 2011 at 15:29
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I like VDGG a lot, but I prefer Jethro. ------------- I shook my head and smiled a whisper knowing all about the place |
Posted By: mohaveman
Date Posted: April 13 2011 at 15:55
| One for Tull |
Posted By: Varon
Date Posted: April 18 2011 at 10:27
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VdGG won! ------------- Would you catch the final words of mine? Would you catch my words??? |
Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: April 18 2011 at 10:54
The second paragraph makes me wonder why you listen to prog. The third paragraph is just a weak excuse. For it to be anything other than that, you'd have to assume everywhere else VdGG is a hated band, but they're just little known. The fourth paragraph: the Ian Anderson point is irrelevant to what he said, and the David Jackson point is just ignorant beyond belief. |
Posted By: Bonnek
Date Posted: April 18 2011 at 11:15
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I don't think I would be in love with music as much as I am if it wasn't for VDGG |
Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: April 18 2011 at 11:26
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JT of course. ------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood) |
Posted By: Varon
Date Posted: May 16 2011 at 09:48
 I was sure that VdGG have won! Where are you, Hammill/Banton/Evans/(Jackson) fans???????------------- Would you catch the final words of mine? Would you catch my words??? |
Posted By: esky
Date Posted: May 16 2011 at 10:36
| Van der Graaf's career was much more concise and less all over the map than Tull's, althoughTull had A Passion Play. |
Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: May 16 2011 at 17:51
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While I really enjoy VDGG, they can't beat tull.
Tull have at least a dozen strong remasters, while Graaf only have half a dozen
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Posted By: Slaughternalia
Date Posted: May 16 2011 at 21:22
| J-Tull all the way |
Posted By: juandhaltrich
Date Posted: May 16 2011 at 21:23
| with my vote going for VdGG (just a little preferred over jethro tull today) i set them tied in 37 - 37 !!! yeah |
Posted By: giselle
Date Posted: May 17 2011 at 01:54
| I like both bands for different reasons. But Ian Anderson gets my vote because the quality is generally better (IMO). |
Posted By: Varon
Date Posted: May 17 2011 at 12:41
I'm sure FIFTY will be enough to win in this poll) ------------- Would you catch the final words of mine? Would you catch my words??? |
Posted By: kevin4peace
Date Posted: August 05 2011 at 01:41
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J-Tull all the way. ------------- Nothing to say here. Nothing at all. Nothing is easy. |
Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: August 05 2011 at 08:52
| Jethro Tull easily, but VDGG is a great band too. |
Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: August 05 2011 at 09:08
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Jethro Tull, by far, VDGG great, but Tull's "Hors catégorie" ------------- Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours |
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: August 05 2011 at 14:41
| It was not very easy to decide, but I voted for Van der Graaf Generator. |
Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: August 05 2011 at 23:57
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Van Der Graaf Generator.
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Posted By: Krodis
Date Posted: August 06 2011 at 14:14
| While Jethro Tull has "Thick as a Brick", which is at least a tier above anything Van Der Graaf Generator did album-wise, I take VDGG for having more great albums within a progressive rock context. |
Posted By: himtroy
Date Posted: August 06 2011 at 14:23
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I prefer VDGG's peaks but have heard more Tull that I care about. As in, Pawn Hearts and H to He...whatever are my favorites of the two groups, but I've never really heard any Tull I didn't like. Whereas while I didn't dislike it, I've heard Aerosol Grey Machine and way later VDGG and didn't care enough to ever hear it again. I haven't tried much VDGG though....I'd probably prefer them ------------- Which of you to gain me, tell, will risk uncertain pains of hell? I will not forgive you if you will not take the chance. |
Posted By: Billy Pilgrim
Date Posted: August 11 2011 at 09:21
| Hehe, just put VDGG up 44 to 43 |
Posted By: ergaster
Date Posted: August 11 2011 at 09:24
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I had to create a tie, to reflect my own dilemma. :) ------------- We have done the impossible, and that makes us mighty. Captain Malcolm Reynolds Reality rules, Honor the truth Chemist99a R.I.P. |
Posted By: DanthraX
Date Posted: August 11 2011 at 09:25
Closest poll ever!  ------------- I look up, I'm almost blinded by the warmth of what's inside me and the taste that's in my soul, but I'm dead inside as I stand alone... |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: August 11 2011 at 16:32
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JethroTull was a great band once but discovering Van Der Graaf Generator's music was a lifechanging experience. And unlike JT they still sound inspired live. |
Posted By: resurrection
Date Posted: August 14 2011 at 00:50
| Difficult to call in a way, as VDGG is a band and Jethro Tull a solo project by Ian Anderson. But my vote goes to Anderson for his solid body of work and peerless legacy. |
Posted By: Hober Mallow
Date Posted: August 25 2011 at 12:26
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tull ------------- “When Fortuna spins you downward, go out to a movie and get more out of life.” John Kennedy Toole |
Posted By: Norbert
Date Posted: August 25 2011 at 12:58
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Van der Graaf Generator. I really enjoy some early Jethro Tull, but altogether I like VdGG much more. |
Posted By: Takeshi Kovacs
Date Posted: August 25 2011 at 16:28
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Jethro Tull
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Posted By: EatThatPhonebook
Date Posted: August 27 2011 at 07:24
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I prefer vdgg much more, honestly. ------------- 
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Posted By: thehallway
Date Posted: August 28 2011 at 12:11
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Two very different bands but they have exactly the same effect on me: I like individual songs but a whole album's worth tends to get very samey. I think it's to do with instrumentation. With VdGG it's always relentless Hammond and sax screaming in your ears, and with Tull it's a f**king omnipresent flute.
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Posted By: trackstoni
Date Posted: August 28 2011 at 12:39
------------- Tracking Tracks of Rock |
Posted By: trackstoni
Date Posted: August 28 2011 at 12:42
Nice thought , i fully agree on this ! fair comment ! ------------- Tracking Tracks of Rock |
Posted By: kingcrimsonfan
Date Posted: August 28 2011 at 20:50
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i've got to go for van der graaf generator because their music is much more complex and adventurous to the edge of prog rock and into a new genre yet to be discovered ------------- 
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Posted By: Xaxaar
Date Posted: August 30 2011 at 15:31
| Van der Graaf Generator. Not too much of a fan of Jethro Tull passed Thick as a Brick. |
Posted By: Essex man
Date Posted: August 30 2011 at 15:36
| This one is really tricky...probably Tull in terms of their constant way of surprising the listener but VDGG have certainly made some powerful music adn Peter Hammill's solo efforts are superb - especially "In Camera" |
Posted By: Eria Tarka
Date Posted: December 17 2011 at 22:00
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Posted By: tary
Date Posted: June 22 2012 at 07:42
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JETHRO TULL easily!!! Both are amazing bands, but Jethro Tull is uncomparable!!! Tull's 70s albums are amazingly amazing, they are many great metal bands' favourite band! even Iron Maiden adores them! Thick As A Brick is the most beautiful progressive rock song ever written!
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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: June 22 2012 at 08:16
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Tull by a wide margin, although VdGG is a great band too.
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Posted By: Eria Tarka
Date Posted: June 22 2012 at 13:31
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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: June 22 2012 at 13:57
| +1 for Jethro. Simple because of the accessibility and straightforwardness. |
Posted By: Glucose
Date Posted: June 22 2012 at 14:09
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VDGG !They have huge diversity od very powerful, strong and interesting melodies and great lyrics, Jethro Tull seem to me more homogenic.
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Posted By: Glucose
Date Posted: June 22 2012 at 14:19
Hey I'm so satisfied that here are lots od VDGG fans! In my country I have no-one to talk about them. Or no-one who understands their music. What a great thing, this prog rock forum ------------- Under the rocks and stones, there is water underground
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Posted By: The Bearded Bard
Date Posted: June 22 2012 at 15:52
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Though I've started to enjoy VDGG, voting Tull was an easy choice. I mean, how could I not vote for my no.1 favourite band? -------------  
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Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: June 22 2012 at 19:33
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I love graaf, but they didn't even exist during 2 great eras of prog music 1972-74 and 1978-82. During that time Tull have 7 first class remasters. That's more than Graaf ever released: Thick as a brick-One of the great albums A passion play-A little sister to Thick. But still cool Warchild Remaster-Yeah the album was a pop soundtrack but the 7 fine bonus tracks are the true tull songs of 1974 Heavy horses remaster-Some of the best prog folk you'll hear Bursting out-One of the great live albums A remaster-underrated album. It's quite strong actually. The slipstream dvd is awesome Broadsword remaster-The songs and recordings are hit and miss but there's a strong album worth amongst the 20 songs. Don't forget there's another 10 songs from these sessions not included. A full drum remixed 28 song remaster would be awesome |
Posted By: HackettFan
Date Posted: June 23 2012 at 02:43
| Jethro Tull definitely. I like the two saxes in VdGG, but they have no guitarist. I'm a guitarist. See my problem. |
Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: June 23 2012 at 02:45
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Def. Van Der Graaf Generator. ------------- http://bit.ly/1kqTR8y" rel="nofollow">  The greatest record label of all time! |
Posted By: Ancient Tree
Date Posted: June 23 2012 at 02:50
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Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: June 23 2012 at 10:29
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Van Der Graaf by light years. I don't listen to Jethro Tull that often anymore, but when I do it's usually only Thick As A Brick and A Passion Play, sometimes Aqualung.
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Posted By: refugee
Date Posted: June 23 2012 at 11:08
http://www.angelfire.com/biz/pjah/bdickinson.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.angelfire.com/biz/pjah/bdickinson.html ------------- He say nothing is quite what it seems; I say nothing is nothing (Peter Hammill) |
Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: June 23 2012 at 11:18
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I can't stand Jethro Tull. Thick as a Brick is annoying overrated (blah blah blah), and the band never really caught my interest. I rather listen to Fleet Foxes if i want good folk, or any other band for good rock. ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |