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Topic: 2 songs at the price of one
Posted By: octopus-4
Subject: 2 songs at the price of one
Date Posted: May 09 2011 at 15:28
Hi all,  listen carefully to this song (ignore the lyrics and concentrate on music).



Of course many people already knows it, but...

now listen to this one....



And finally to this one...(starting from minute 1:30)



What do you think?

The songs are from the albums below

http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=2872" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=2872
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=17816" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=17816  
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=17808" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=17808





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I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution



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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: May 09 2011 at 17:44

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Posted By: Nathaniel607
Date Posted: May 09 2011 at 18:00
Wow... certainly very interesting... 

But, after a bit of research, I found this;


The Blackmore's Night song, at least, is based off of the traditional song "Sieben Tage lang"(German)/"Bots 'Zeven dagen lang" (Neverlands). I think it's fair to assume that the other two you posted are also.


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Posted By: Harry Hood
Date Posted: May 09 2011 at 19:53
Marillion - The Fruit of the Wild Rose (the long outro jam)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcsX4tAqgKc" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcsX4tAqgKc

Transatlantic - "Suite Charlotte Pike Medley" (the intro jam)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keWYTrmsr0M" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keWYTrmsr0M

Pretty sure both are based around the same Pete Trewavas demo. Pete got a lot of mileage out of that little progression.


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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: May 09 2011 at 23:09
Originally posted by Nathaniel607 Nathaniel607 wrote:

Wow... certainly very interesting... 

But, after a bit of research, I found this;


The Blackmore's Night song, at least, is based off of the traditional song "Sieben Tage lang"(German)/"Bots 'Zeven dagen lang" (Neverlands). I think it's fair to assume that the other two you posted are also.

You are correct, I think. It's not a case of copying. Both the artists have the same influences and in particular "Ballo in Fa Diesis Minore" is taken from a medieval leid.  


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I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution


Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: May 10 2011 at 03:39
Please admins ban this spammer

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I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution


Posted By: clarke2001
Date Posted: May 10 2011 at 04:08
Here are two great renditions of a classic. (the lyrics are more or less the same)






Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: May 10 2011 at 04:14
There's also an instrumental version of Blackmore's Night, but I don't remember on which album, plus a vocal only version from Kay McCarthy (the two together make a song Smile). This is a song which had a lot of interpreters including Joan Baez for what I know. 

The good of this thread is that we have already 3 videos of an artist that I think deserves to be listened to (at least the early albums).




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I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution


Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: May 10 2011 at 04:19
Two 'Cruel Sister' varieties from both sides of the North Sea:
 
 
 


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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: May 10 2011 at 04:21
With Swedish lyrics is amazing.

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I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution


Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: May 10 2011 at 04:24
@octopus-4: I think it is Norse.
 
Two more Evil Smile:
 
 


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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: May 10 2011 at 04:26
I know those two....I have posted them last year Smile. Ian Gillan admitted to have taken Child in Time from It's A Beautiful Day and the authors were happy of it. 

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I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution


Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: May 10 2011 at 04:31
It's a funny game. try this pair...





This Italian band is used to include parts of famous songs in their own stuff.


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I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: May 10 2011 at 05:49
Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

I know those two....I have posted them last year Smile. Ian Gillan admitted to have taken Child in Time from It's A Beautiful Day and the authors were happy of it. 


I've talked about this in the past, but it's more complicated than that. See: http://www.bluoz.com/iabd/vince.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.bluoz.com/iabd/vince.html Be-bop jazzman Vince Wallace claims that he wrote it in 1962 and taught it to David LaFlamme of It's a Beautiful Day in 1966.

Originally posted by http://www.bluoz.com/iabd/vince.html http://www.bluoz.com/iabd/vince.html wrote:

...Vince Wallace wrote the song Bombay Calling in 1962, and believes he did copywrite it.....In 1966, Vince taught the song to David LaFlamme at David LaFlamme's house in San Francisco, California during the Electric Chamber Orchestra days....At first David LaFlamme attributed the song to Vince in concert, thinking it would be cool to do a jazz number from a jazz musician...Within a couple of years, David LaFlamme eventually dropped all reference to Vince and registered the same song with the same name under his own name at the US Copyright Office...Vince never received a dime from any of the record companies or David LaFlamme...This song is on the first album that went gold....


And see: http://forums.deeppurple.com/viewtopic.php?t=464&sid=3004ec841f31d2851ca068ecb702a8af" rel="nofollow - http://forums.deeppurple.com/viewtopic.php?t=464&sid=3004ec841f31d2851ca068ecb702a8af

I know I mentioned this in your earlier thread, Octopus, but I'd had a discussion with Dick Heath about this song forum_posts.asp?TID=62049&PID=3417549" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=62049&PID=3417549 , where he wrote:

Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

I much prefer the track "Bombay Calling" that inspired "Child in Time" by It's a Beautiful Day (and Beautiful Days' was an adaptation of the be-bop jazzer Vince Wallace's "Bombay Calling":  Great riff.
 
As stated a number of times in PA: which was in turn  lifted from J.S.Bach and stated so in the line notes for a remastered issue of IABD album.
 
Johann Sebastian was targeted by a number of prog and heavy rock musicians at the end of the 60's and early 70's and indeed Wendy Carlos did a whole synth album Switched On Bach and later the complete Brandenburg Concertos.  BBC 2 did a complete programme on why Bach's music appealed so much - particularly the Brandenburgs  - in the early 70's .


I love this Vince Wallace version of Bombay Calling) -- I prefer it to It's a Beautiful Day's:






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Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.


Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: May 10 2011 at 07:50
Wow,  very good! I never heard of Vince Wallace before.

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I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution


Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: May 10 2011 at 09:13
Forgotten maybe...Embarrassed. well, I have noticed that I have posted two tines the same song actually.  The problem is that now I don't remember which the other song was(a clone of highway stars if I remember correctly). I trying to remember

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I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution



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