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Topic: The Runner's TrackPosted By: progkidjoel
Subject: The Runner's Track
Date Posted: May 14 2011 at 18:49
Here it is, the official PA running thread!
Simply a thread for all PA members with a love of running (or any cardio, really) to share stories, stats, favourite albums to run to, favourite areas to go running, routines, and/or anything else you can think of.
Also, discussing other aspects of fitness is entirely welcome
Running has been a big hobby of mine for the last 3 or 4 years, I'll generally try to get an hour or two in every day, depending on how busy I am with school/other commitments.
Discussion of hardcore is also entirely welcome
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Replies: Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: May 14 2011 at 18:49
I'm a great fan.
I really like to watch other people run.
Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: May 14 2011 at 18:50
harmonium.ro wrote:
I'm a great fan.
I really like to watch other people run.
In 7/8. And then they trip when a new measure comes.
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Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: May 14 2011 at 18:51
FINALLY
Next time I go running (tomorrow likely) I'll give you the whole story.
Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: May 14 2011 at 18:54
Word. My running music typically changes with the season. Winter is my Wu-Tang Clan running season, but every other season is generally some kind of progressive jazz fusion.
Aside from running, I also bike and lift with a 25 lb dumbbell for lean muscle (low weight, high reps), as well as push ups and crunches and what-not.
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: May 14 2011 at 18:59
colorofmoney91 wrote:
Oh, and Meshuggah is perfect. It makes me run like a mad robot.
I had to censor a strong temptation to rewrite that in a dirty way.
Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: May 14 2011 at 19:00
colorofmoney91 wrote:
Word. My running music typically changes with the season. Winter is my Wu-Tang Clan running season, but every other season is generally some kind of progressive jazz fusion.
Aside from running, I also bike and lift with a 25 lb dumbbell for lean muscle (low weight, high reps), as well as push ups and crunches and what-not.
Ah, nice.
Other than running, I'm doing Mark Rippetoe's Starting Strength (mostly compound barbell lifts[high weight, low rep range]) 3 times a week and a ton of callisthenics/body weight exercises every day.
Have you heard of Convict Conditioning? It's basically a guide on how to build functional strength using only the body. Absolutely brilliant book, has helped me more with fitness than anything else I've ever seen.
Also, as I mentioned in your other running thread, I'll generally listen to metal/hardcore/metalcore stuff for lifting and more calm/serene/less rhythmic stuff for running. I find it quite distracting to run to anything with a solid rhythm
Posted By: The Neck Romancer
Date Posted: May 14 2011 at 19:00
colorofmoney91 wrote:
Oh, and Meshuggah is perfect. It makes me run like a mad robot.
Meshuggah is great for any kind of physical exercise.
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: May 14 2011 at 19:02
You guys need to make on Google Maps the itinerary of your favourite runs and post them here. Also, post pictures.
Maybe this should be named The Runners' Track instead of The Runners' Thread?
Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: May 14 2011 at 19:04
harmonium.ro wrote:
You guys need to make on Google Maps the itinerary of your favourite runs and post them here. Also, post pictures.
Maybe this should be named The Runners' Track instead of The Runners' Thread?
Great idea, will do both now
Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: May 14 2011 at 19:08
I don't run anywhere interesting enough - just around the high school campus next to my house.
Here's a good topic starter:
track vs. trail
I personally prefer track, but not a loop track. Just anywhere with paved roads. Hills and curves are nice touches too. I plan to try trail running again, eventually, probably on the hilly mountainous area of Raven Rock park.
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: May 14 2011 at 19:12
colorofmoney91 wrote:
I don't run anywhere interesting enough - just around the high school campus next to my house.
Here's a good topic starter:
track vs. trail
I personally prefer track, but not a loop track. Just anywhere with paved roads. Hills and curves are nice touches too. I plan to try trail running again, eventually, probably on the hilly mountainous area of Raven Rock park.
You now really got me interested in your itinerary.
Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: May 14 2011 at 19:14
High school campus running is great, because I'm the "older, but still young" dude, and I get to see the women's softball/tennis/cheerleading/butt-jiggling team girls all the time.
This is probably my favourite planned track that I run. I usually run there and back every other day, and it leads me right back to within about 200m of my house which is really nice. I'll map out my other two in a few minutes.
Just updated with the starting point marker for clarity.
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: May 14 2011 at 19:25
progkidjoel wrote:
I personally prefer trail, although I luckily live in an area with tons of options of running track, trail and a mixture.
This is probably my favourite planned track that I run. I usually run there and back every other day, and it leads me right back to within about 200m of my house which is really nice. I'll map out my other two in a few minutes.
OMG now I know where you live! Can I come visit?
Sattellite view is surpringly sharp there, you can say I made my first run with you.
Also, that small river you run along for a while looks just perfect to dump a body in.
Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: May 14 2011 at 19:27
harmonium.ro wrote:
progkidjoel wrote:
I personally prefer trail, although I luckily live in an area with tons of options of running track, trail and a mixture.
This is probably my favourite planned track that I run. I usually run there and back every other day, and it leads me right back to within about 200m of my house which is really nice. I'll map out my other two in a few minutes.
OMG now I know where you live! Can I come visit?
Sattellite view is surpringly sharp there, you can say I made my first run with you.
Also, that small river you run along for a while looks just perfect to dump a body in.
Omg dun murder me k
The stormwater drain smells filthy sometimes, I presume it's all the corpses
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: May 14 2011 at 19:36
Any crocs, too?
Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: May 14 2011 at 19:41
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I usually run that red line a few times over each time.
Edit: there was no first person view of the course, and it's kind of hectic anyway, so this screenshot was the best way for me to share.
Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: May 14 2011 at 19:44
harmonium.ro wrote:
Any crocs, too?
Not quite. There are a few ducks though.
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: May 14 2011 at 19:53
progkidjoel wrote:
harmonium.ro wrote:
Any crocs, too?
Not quite. There are a few ducks though.
Sounds quite safe then.
If I were to run, http://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=au&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&t=h&msa=0&msid=214907663342624560239.0004a345c9435cce6e6f1&ll=48.82331,2.330904&spn=0.007276,0.01929&z=16" rel="nofollow - this would be my itinerary. From home to the Parc Montsouris, avoding the boulevards. There are a lot of runners there in the park. The park is small but once there I can run in circles until I drop.
Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: May 14 2011 at 19:54
When I run (which is infrequently) this is usually my track:
My woods look so purty in the summer
I used a screenshot so none you creepers try to find me (Alex)
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Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: May 14 2011 at 19:56
I love running through wooded areas but I don't have many of those around. You're a lucky man.
Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: May 14 2011 at 19:56
colorofmoney91 wrote:
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I usually run that red line a few times over each time.
Edit: there was no first person view of the course, and it's kind of hectic anyway, so this screenshot was the best way for me to share.
Whoa, that's confusing I prefer running in a straight line. Looks good though. What's the approx. mileage for one loop?
Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: May 14 2011 at 19:59
The Truth wrote:
I love running through wooded areas but I don't have many of those around. You're a lucky man.
Oh it's beautiful during every season. In the summer when it's in full the bloom the whole atmosphere is so full of life. I love it. In the fall the colors are spectacular. In the winter, snow covers everything in a spectacular and beautiful blanket. And spring is just like summer .
I love my woods
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Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: May 14 2011 at 19:59
progkidjoel wrote:
colorofmoney91 wrote:
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I usually run that red line a few times over each time.
Edit: there was no first person view of the course, and it's kind of hectic anyway, so this screenshot was the best way for me to share.
Whoa, that's confusing I prefer running in a straight line. Looks good though. What's the approx. mileage for one loop?
Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: May 14 2011 at 20:03
Andyman1125 wrote:
The Truth wrote:
I love running through wooded areas but I don't have many of those around. You're a lucky man.
Oh it's beautiful during every season. In the summer when it's in full the bloom the whole atmosphere is so full of life. I love it. In the fall the colors are spectacular. In the winter, snow covers everything in a spectacular and beautiful blanket. And spring is just like summer .
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: May 14 2011 at 20:05
The Truth wrote:
Andyman1125 wrote:
The Truth wrote:
I love running through wooded areas but I don't have many of those around. You're a lucky man.
Oh it's beautiful during every season. In the summer when it's in full the bloom the whole atmosphere is so full of life. I love it. In the fall the colors are spectacular. In the winter, snow covers everything in a spectacular and beautiful blanket. And spring is just like summer .
I love my woods
I jelly alright.
U a city boy Truthy? That's now what I had in mind...
Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: May 14 2011 at 20:07
harmonium.ro wrote:
The Truth wrote:
Andyman1125 wrote:
The Truth wrote:
I love running through wooded areas but I don't have many of those around. You're a lucky man.
Oh it's beautiful during every season. In the summer when it's in full the bloom the whole atmosphere is so full of life. I love it. In the fall the colors are spectacular. In the winter, snow covers everything in a spectacular and beautiful blanket. And spring is just like summer .
I love my woods
I jelly alright.
U a city boy Truthy? That's now what I had in mind...
I a smalltown boy but I live in a housing development on a golf course. In other words flat + no trees.
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: May 14 2011 at 20:15
If anyone want to stalk me, check the first post on this page, I replaced the broken itinerary with a correct one.
Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: May 14 2011 at 20:15
The Truth wrote:
harmonium.ro wrote:
The Truth wrote:
Andyman1125 wrote:
The Truth wrote:
I love running through wooded areas but I don't have many of those around. You're a lucky man.
Oh it's beautiful during every season. In the summer when it's in full the bloom the whole atmosphere is so full of life. I love it. In the fall the colors are spectacular. In the winter, snow covers everything in a spectacular and beautiful blanket. And spring is just like summer .
I love my woods
I jelly alright.
U a city boy Truthy? That's now what I had in mind...
I a smalltown boy but I live in a housing development on a golf course. In other words flat + no trees.
Here's a rundown of Southern Rhode Island.
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Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: May 14 2011 at 20:17
harmonium.ro wrote:
progkidjoel wrote:
harmonium.ro wrote:
Any crocs, too?
Not quite. There are a few ducks though.
Sounds quite safe then.
If I were to run, http://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=au&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&t=h&msa=0&msid=214907663342624560239.0004a345c9435cce6e6f1&ll=48.82331,2.330904&spn=0.007276,0.01929&z=16" rel="nofollow - this would be my itinerary. From home to the Parc Montsouris, avoding the boulevards. There are a lot of runners there in the park. The park is small but once there I can run in circles until I drop.
Hmm, I was under the impression that you were in Romania, but everything sounds French.
In any case, I'll be watching you from afar from now on.
Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: May 14 2011 at 20:18
colorofmoney91 wrote:
harmonium.ro wrote:
progkidjoel wrote:
harmonium.ro wrote:
Any crocs, too?
Not quite. There are a few ducks though.
Sounds quite safe then.
If I were to run, http://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=au&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&t=h&msa=0&msid=214907663342624560239.0004a345c9435cce6e6f1&ll=48.82331,2.330904&spn=0.007276,0.01929&z=16" rel="nofollow - this would be my itinerary. From home to the Parc Montsouris, avoding the boulevards. There are a lot of runners there in the park. The park is small but once there I can run in circles until I drop.
Hmm, I was under the impression that you were in Romania, but everything sounds French.
In any case, I'll be watching you from afar from now on.
He's a Romanian in France, if my perception is correct.
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Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: May 15 2011 at 09:36
Just running one mile today, have been building up since knee surgery, gotta get time under six minutes to go up to two miles. Still haven't decided what song to listen to.
Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: May 15 2011 at 12:33
Yes, big fan of running have been for 8 years now. The last 4 I have been far less committed but I still keep on trying. Really should this summer.
Music? Just depends but it is usually anything up tempo (metal, prog, jazz long as its quick) or something pretty chill, Can for example. At home I know my usual loop is 1 and a half miles but in PA I just wing it, so I have no clue how far it is I did walk/jog for 3 hours yesterday.
Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: May 15 2011 at 12:45
This was my running music for today. It's definitely not prog, but it is pretty nicely paced.
Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: May 15 2011 at 12:45
The Truth wrote:
Just running one mile today, have been building up since knee surgery, gotta get time under six minutes to go up to two miles. Still haven't decided what song to listen to.
Damn, I hope your leg is alright. I wouldn't want you to get injured. Be safe!
Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: May 15 2011 at 13:22
colorofmoney91 wrote:
The Truth wrote:
Just running one mile today, have been building up since knee surgery, gotta get time under six minutes to go up to two miles. Still haven't decided what song to listen to.
Damn, I hope your leg is alright. I wouldn't want you to get injured. Be safe!
Oh no worries, I'm just trying to get passed being overly muscle-sore. Have been for some time now. It's been a long path back to running.
Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: May 15 2011 at 18:29
Don't you love that natural high you get while running and listening to a good song? I was listening to GY!BE on a run once (Static, I think...) and it just really sent me into another world.
Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: May 15 2011 at 18:41
colorofmoney91 wrote:
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I usually run that red line a few times over each time.
Edit: there was no first person view of the course, and it's kind of hectic anyway, so this screenshot was the best way for me to share.
I see Jesus.
And a Moldovan hat.
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Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: May 15 2011 at 19:20
I didn't run today. Just giving you guys the low-down.
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Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: May 15 2011 at 19:26
I sometimes cross paths with the elderly when I'm running, and if I'm listening to my iPod, I like to run past them screaming We're not gonna take it! NO, we ain't gonna take it!
Posted By: ClemofNazareth
Date Posted: May 15 2011 at 20:00
I used to run a lot more but aging bones are slowly catching up with me. I still crank out 3-5 miles at least 3 times a week and try to get in a longer run on the weekend. We have several parks nearby and a 26 mile running trail that connects all of them with an entrance close to my house so that's convenient. Also most of the roads in this part of town have a biking lane which runners can use as well, so there are lots of places to go for variety.
There's a park with a sledding run called Tutt Hill that is a little over 3 miles from my house. There's another hill just before that so when I do that run it works out to a little over 7 miles with 4 pretty steep uphill parts; my goal is always to finish in under an hour and sometimes I actually make that.
I usually run in the early morning (around 5:00am) before heading to work; better than coffee for waking you up. In the fall there are usually deer and foxes in the parks which is kind of cool. I once saw a lady with headphones running ahead of me and there were two deer running alongside her - she didn't even know they were there!
In South Dakota running in the winter is rough since we get a crapload of snow and insanely cold temperatures, not to mention pretty stiff winds. When that happens I head to the gym and a treadmill. Treadmills suck but at least you can get your heart rate up for an hour which makes getting back into the groove a lot easier in the spring.
A lot of times I don't wear headphones when I run outside but on the treadmill I always do. I like to play a lot of long prog folk songs broken up with 80s girl-band pop tunes. The long tunes help me zone out while the pop stuff is great for short cardio sprints to keep things interesting.
My favorite songs for finishing a run are the Go-Gos "Unforgiven", the Decemberists "The Sporting Life", or the Violent Femmes "Blister in the Sun".
------------- "Peace is the only battle worth waging."
Albert Camus
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 15 2011 at 20:14
I ran cross-country in middle school and all through high school, but I haven't been involved in serious running for at least a year or so. I like trail running; I'm not a sprinter or triathlete or anything like that. Distance running is a good feeling, but in high school I did not really train far enough in advance to maximize my potential. Its nice to know that there are other running folks out there on this forum.
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: May 15 2011 at 20:27
I much prefer cycling to running.
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Posted By: Apsalar
Date Posted: May 15 2011 at 23:08
progkidjoel wrote:
I personally prefer trail, although I luckily live in an area with tons of options of running track, trail and a mixture.
This is probably my favourite planned track that I run. I usually run there and back every other day, and it leads me right back to within about 200m of my house which is really nice. I'll map out my other two in a few minutes.
Just updated with the starting point marker for clarity.
Nice. Did you ever get to run through Stromlo forest before it burnt down? Close the Red Hill too, lots of good trails through there.
As for music while running, cannot stand it. 'tis a pet hate of mine. fresh air 'n' nature and I'm happy.
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 16 2011 at 00:26
Apsalar wrote:
As for music while running, cannot stand it. 'tis a pet hate of mine. fresh air 'n' nature and I'm happy.
Agree
Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: May 16 2011 at 02:51
Went to the gym for about 2 hours this afternoon, finished my lifts and went home. Going for a run later tonight. It's the coldest I can remember it being here since last year though, which sucks.
Apsalar wrote:
progkidjoel wrote:
I personally prefer trail, although I luckily live in an area with tons of options of running track, trail and a mixture.
This is probably my favourite planned track that I run. I usually run there and back every other day, and it leads me right back to within about 200m of my house which is really nice. I'll map out my other two in a few minutes.
Just updated with the starting point marker for clarity.
Nice. Did you ever get to run through Stromlo forest before it burnt down? Close the Red Hill too, lots of good trails through there.
Another canberran?
I was only like 9 or 10 during the canberra bushfires, that was a good few years before I really got into running unfortunately.
The Truth wrote:
Don't you love that natural high you get while running and listening to a good song? I was listening to GY!BE on a run once (Static, I think...) and it just really sent me into another world.
Then I about ran into a car.
As I mentioned in a few other threads, the running high is easily one my two or three favourite feelings. Nothin' beats it.
Posted By: Apsalar
Date Posted: May 16 2011 at 05:02
progkidjoel wrote:
Went to the gym for about 2 hours this afternoon, finished my lifts and went home. Going for a run later tonight. It's the coldest I can remember it being here since last year though, which sucks.
Apsalar wrote:
Nice. Did you ever get to run through Stromlo forest before it burnt down? Close the Red Hill too, lots of good trails through there.
Another canberran?
I was only like 9 or 10 during the canberra bushfires, that was a good few years before I really got into running unfortunately.
Yep, on the north-side, back onto O'Connor ridge (for now, in the process of looking for a new rental) so that's my usual starting point for a run, from there onto Black Mt. Nice and Hilly, with nice views of the city/lake.
Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: May 16 2011 at 05:46
Don't you listen to music whilst walking in competitions, Adam? I thought that'd be noisy with the crowd and stuff.
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Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: May 16 2011 at 06:36
Apsalar wrote:
progkidjoel wrote:
Went to the gym for about 2 hours this afternoon, finished my lifts and went home. Going for a run later tonight. It's the coldest I can remember it being here since last year though, which sucks.
Apsalar wrote:
Nice. Did you ever get to run through Stromlo forest before it burnt down? Close the Red Hill too, lots of good trails through there.
Another canberran?
I was only like 9 or 10 during the canberra bushfires, that was a good few years before I really got into running unfortunately.
Yep, on the north-side, back onto O'Connor ridge (for now, in the process of looking for a new rental) so that's my usual starting point for a run, from there onto Black Mt. Nice and Hilly, with nice views of the city/lake.
Ah, awesome.
I've done the run around the entire lake a few times, which is absolute hell. Good fun when I have the energy though.
About to head out for a run now, 1 degree C and relative humidity at 98%. This should be fun.
Posted By: Apsalar
Date Posted: May 16 2011 at 07:31
James, as the rules have it your not allowed musical devices, since it might be some 2way contraption giving you the upper hand . You'd be amazed how sounds begin to blur once focusing on the task at hand. Considering the incoherent, almost animal-esque nature of most spectators vocal emissions, you'll find instinct kickin' in with a wee bit o adrenalin to help you along.
Joel, the lake is lovely, albeit a tough slog, especially around near the dam, up the back of the golf course past the governers house. Not sure how far you go around? but they've recently (the last 6-8 months) done work around the wetlands area (out Kingston onto the airport way, dairy farmers lane, et cetera) so you can connect up the whole lap via bike paths.
Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: May 16 2011 at 07:55
Went for a 40 or so minute run just now, waaaaaaaay too cold. Definitely won't be doing that so late again.
Apsalar wrote:
Joel, the lake is lovely, albeit a tough slog, especially around near the dam, up the back of the golf course past the governers house. Not sure how far you go around? but they've recently (the last 6-8 months) done work around the wetlands area (out Kingston onto the airport way, dairy farmers lane, et cetera) so you can connect up the whole lap via bike paths.
I'll generally run the track I posted earlier which leads up to scrivener dam, then across the dam, through the hills near the museum and continue for about 8 or so kms until I get up to Civic. Then there's the bridge which leads from the side of the lake opposite to the national library, cross over it and basically run the opposite way back through civic, Yarallumla then into Curtin again. Kinda hard to explain I think it's roughly a 20-25km round trip or so. I can map it out for you if you're interested, it's a really good circuit.
Also, I love the Canberra bike path system. Awesome to be able to run/walk either to civic one way and woden/school the other way on a path about 100m from my house. Had no idea they were adding to it, though. That's great.
Posted By: bogg808
Date Posted: May 16 2011 at 08:05
progkidjoel wrote:
Went for a 40 or so minute run just now, waaaaaaaay too cold. Definitely won't be doing that so late again.
Apsalar wrote:
Joel, the lake is lovely, albeit a tough slog, especially around near the dam, up the back of the golf course past the governers house. Not sure how far you go around? but they've recently (the last 6-8 months) done work around the wetlands area (out Kingston onto the airport way, dairy farmers lane, et cetera) so you can connect up the whole lap via bike paths.
I'll generally run the track I posted earlier which leads up to scrivener dam, then across the dam, through the hills near the museum and continue for about 8 or so kms until I get up to Civic. Then there's the bridge which leads from the side of the lake opposite to the national library, cross over it and basically run the opposite way back through civic, Yarallumla then into Curtin again. Kinda hard to explain I think it's roughly a 20-25km round trip or so. I can map it out for you if you're interested, it's a really good circuit.
Also, I love the Canberra bike path system. Awesome to be able to run/walk either to civic one way and woden/school the other way on a path about 100m from my house. Had no idea they were adding to it, though. That's great.
I used to bike ride through that circuit all the time with dad and teh brother. Quite long, took 2 hours but was enjoyable.
Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: May 16 2011 at 08:33
I've never been much of a runner but my kids school has a program called Girls on the Run which works to get girls active. Every semester they run a 5k and need running buddy. I got enlisted and yesterday was my first 5k. When didn't even run the whole thing, but it was still quite satisfying. We finished it which was something. I was a swimmer so the cardio aspect is not bad but my ankles and knees hurt alot a few days. I know I didn't train slowly enough. I do feel very good after running, but I don't want to injure myself.
Anyway...I like working out to Animals as Leaders.
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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: May 16 2011 at 09:37
In spirit of this thread I ran five miles this morning. Unfortunately, I didn't stretch before I went out and that is no good right now.
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Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: May 16 2011 at 21:15
Posted By: Apsalar
Date Posted: May 17 2011 at 02:54
progkidjoel wrote:
Went for a 40 or so minute run just now, waaaaaaaay too cold. Definitely won't be doing that so late again.
I'll generally run the track I posted earlier which leads up to scrivener dam, then across the dam, through the hills near the museum and continue for about 8 or so kms until I get up to Civic. Then there's the bridge which leads from the side of the lake opposite to the national library, cross over it and basically run the opposite way back through civic, Yarallumla then into Curtin again. Kinda hard to explain I think it's roughly a 20-25km round trip or so. I can map it out for you if you're interested, it's a really good circuit.
Also, I love the Canberra bike path system. Awesome to be able to run/walk either to civic one way and woden/school the other way on a path about 100m from my house. Had no idea they were adding to it, though. That's great.
I know the route well. At least you know you can lengthen it if you're particular keen by going out to Kings Av Bridge
Indeed. I light of my not owning a car, those bike paths tend to get well used. And with not too many cars it is pretty safe to ride on the roads too.
Out of interest, what shoes do people use?
Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: May 17 2011 at 03:13
I'm currently using a fairly old pair of Asics Gel Nimbus, although I've been meaning to replace them for the last few months.
Since they've got a fairly big heel wedge, I end up heel-striking sometimes when I'm not paying attention.
Also, has anyone else here used minimal running shoes before? I'm currently looking at replacing my old shoes with a pair of Vibram FiveFingers Bikila or New Balance Minimus. I'm yet to try either, just thought I'd check here though.
Posted By: Any Colour You Like
Date Posted: May 17 2011 at 03:36
My running shoes are religious, but that's mostly because I use them as Cricket practice shoes over summer. So it's fair to say they've done some decent mileage.
Posted By: Mr ProgFreak
Date Posted: May 17 2011 at 04:00
The Truth wrote:
Stretching is good, yes yes.
It does not prevent injury though - at least not if you do it just prior to a workout. The best strategy is to stretch on non-workout days, since stretching - if done properly - is a workout in itself.
Posted By: Mr ProgFreak
Date Posted: May 17 2011 at 04:03
progkidjoel wrote:
Also, has anyone else here used minimal running shoes before? I'm currently looking at replacing my old shoes with a pair of Vibram FiveFingers Bikila or New Balance Minimus. I'm yet to try either, just thought I'd check here though.
I've been running in VFFs (KSO) occasionally during the last 12 months. I like it, but since you're going to run on the balls of your feet rather than the heels it places much stress on the calves and the achilles tendon. Be extra careful especially if you're overweight (such as myself) - but of course that also applies to traditional heel-striking running, only there you'll stress your knees more than the ankles/calves.
Posted By: Apsalar
Date Posted: May 17 2011 at 05:10
I'm an advocator of the 'minimalist' footwear, over heavy built up support, but the case is going to be different for each person. The tricky aspect can be the transition from say a Gel Nimbus to the five toed variety. Because over time the foot has become used to being supported by the technologies of the shoes themselves, they're often lacking in general strength (and smartness: in this day and age we have very stupid feet ) when forced to rely on the foots natural movements, hence one can injury themselves quickly. This can especially be amplified if you are doing a lot of k's. I've found a good way to do it is via starting off simple, wearing them around in general life wherever possible then progressing to running on a soft surface like grass fields, then road/paths, and so on,
I do all my trail running in Nike Free's which are a good intermediary option. When I was young I struggled with achilles problems for which I was prescribed orthotics. Even now if I run in supported shoes without them it doesn't take long for the pain to return. Bought the Free's and have not had to think about orthotics again. From the first run I was able to run without pain.
Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: May 17 2011 at 06:42
Yeah, I've heard the switch can be really harsh. I've also got fairly flat feet, which I've heard can be problematic with the Vibrams. Might check out the Nike Free's actually, they look really good.
Posted By: Mr ProgFreak
Date Posted: May 17 2011 at 10:38
Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: May 17 2011 at 14:40
I went running with a new pair of Asics gel-frantic 5 shoes, but I could only go for about 30 minutes. My back is so sore from doing pull-ups for the first time in almost a year. I really want to try the Nike free run shoes.
I've never considered the minimalist footwear thing, and I'm not really willing to try it. Although the Saucony minimalist shoes seem fine. A friend of mine had some barefoot shoes and said they made his feet hurt really bad.
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 17 2011 at 15:23
Negoba wrote:
I've never been much of a runner but my kids school has a program called Girls on the Run which works to get girls active. Every semester they run a 5k and need running buddy. I got enlisted and yesterday was my first 5k. When didn't even run the whole thing, but it was still quite satisfying. We finished it which was something. I was a swimmer so the cardio aspect is not bad but my ankles and knees hurt alot a few days. I know I didn't train slowly enough. I do feel very good after running, but I don't want to injure myself.
I know that program. They help sponser 5K races at one of the colleges I attended. I ran in two of those races despite having gotten to the second one late, and had to catch up after everyone else had already taken off from the starting line
Posted By: June
Date Posted: May 17 2011 at 18:34
I'm only just started to get jogging again this season. I used to run 5-6 days a week up until December, about 25 km a week, I'd say. Then I got jumped one evening (no pain, but it definitely coolled me down... and the winter started, so that didn't help).
But so far, we've had so much rain that it has not been nice, and my usual "weekend" trail (10km) by the river is actually flooded. The weather really has not been helping.
I compensate with karate, and we get to run barefoot there. It's already nasty enough on the feet, I'm not tempted to try that one outside.
I got a new pair of Asics Gel too (all the other Asics I haved used were fine) 2 weeks ago and felt a bit of pain after the first run with them. So I got a pair of DrScholl's gel sport insoles and after today's run (4km), I feel totally fine.
But my favourite could very well be trail jogging. It's a 40 min drive, but I like to go run up a mountain called St-Hilaire on Sunday mornings. The trail I do is basically a 2.6 km up, 413 metres high. Lots of trees, woodpeckers, not too many people, a nice sunrise when as I go up, very nice.
Here's my river ;-) Before:
After:
Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: May 17 2011 at 18:41
Blimey, that's a lot of flooding.
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Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: May 18 2011 at 16:55
Had a two mile run today (my first in quite some time) not paying attention to time and it felt very good. I'm starting to feel solid muscle rebuilding and not that wobbly crap I've had for so long. Listened to GY!BE.
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: May 18 2011 at 18:25
Did fifteen miles on my bike just now in the rain. Feeling fantastic.
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: May 18 2011 at 19:03
Yes, had a healthy jog through the rain, 55 degrees at the moment. Had to go shirtless and it did indeed feel fantastic. I need new shoes though and specifically jogging ones. These have gotten to the point where my feet/legs just kill and I assume it'll just do damage if I continue. : (
Oh and listened to Explosions in the Sky, which I had to continue back at home
Posted By: TheGazzardian
Date Posted: May 18 2011 at 19:58
I'm not a runner but I am a biker. The most I've done in a day is 12 hours (including breaks) which was probably close to 100KM.
I try to go out as much as possible and am lucky to live in a city where bike paths are plentiful and there are lots of places to lock your bikes downtown. Had a meeting downtown last week, biked there, got to follow a beautiful river and go along the reservoir with a great view of the mountains in the distance. Got downtown with only a small amount of city biking, locked up, cleaned up, had the meeting, biked home. Over 30km all said and done, in just over two hours. Very tiring though if you have to go to work when you get back home.
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: May 18 2011 at 20:03
TheGazzardian wrote:
I'm not a runner but I am a biker. The most I've done in a day is 12 hours (including breaks) which was probably close to 100KM.
I try to go out as much as possible and am lucky to live in a city where bike paths are plentiful and there are lots of places to lock your bikes downtown. Had a meeting downtown last week, biked there, got to follow a beautiful river and go along the reservoir with a great view of the mountains in the distance. Got downtown with only a small amount of city biking, locked up, cleaned up, had the meeting, biked home. Over 30km all said and done, in just over two hours. Very tiring though if you have to go to work when you get back home.
I'm doing a 85.2 mile (137 KM) ride this summer. I'm pumped.
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Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: May 18 2011 at 20:31
I need a nice road bike, and a treadmill for rainy days.
Posted By: Any Colour You Like
Date Posted: May 18 2011 at 21:12
I spent 20 mins on the rowing machine today, that thing sorts the men from the boys.
Posted By: TheGazzardian
Date Posted: May 18 2011 at 21:34
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
TheGazzardian wrote:
I'm not a runner but I am a biker. The most I've done in a day is 12 hours (including breaks) which was probably close to 100KM.
I try to go out as much as possible and am lucky to live in a city where bike paths are plentiful and there are lots of places to lock your bikes downtown. Had a meeting downtown last week, biked there, got to follow a beautiful river and go along the reservoir with a great view of the mountains in the distance. Got downtown with only a small amount of city biking, locked up, cleaned up, had the meeting, biked home. Over 30km all said and done, in just over two hours. Very tiring though if you have to go to work when you get back home.
I'm doing a 85.2 mile (137 KM) ride this summer. I'm pumped.
Kick-ass! What's the ride?
Posted By: June
Date Posted: May 18 2011 at 21:56
Any Colour You Like wrote:
I spent 20 mins on the rowing machine today, that thing sorts the men from the boys.
I was at karate tonight getting punched and punching, does that sort the women from the girls?
Actually, we did have to do "hindu" push-ups, which was a first for me. Lots of fun.
He called it "Japanese" push-ups though, and when I googled them, I found http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkGOQfjpRK4" rel="nofollow - this , and it looks like some crazy insane (if not inane) sh*t, if you ask me...
Posted By: Any Colour You Like
Date Posted: May 18 2011 at 22:05
June wrote:
Any Colour You Like wrote:
I spent 20 mins on the rowing machine today, that thing sorts the men from the boys.
I was at karate tonight getting punched and punching, does that sort the women from the girls?
Actually, we did have to do "hindu" push-ups, which was a first for me. Lots of fun.
He called it "Japanese" push-ups though, and when I googled them, I found http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkGOQfjpRK4" rel="nofollow - this , and it looks like some crazy insane (if not inane) sh*t, if you ask me...
What Any Colour You Like should have said wrote:
I spent 20 mins on the rowing machine today, that thing sorts the men from the boys and the women from the girls.
Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: May 19 2011 at 01:24
It also sorts the girls out from the men.
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Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: May 19 2011 at 01:29
June wrote:
Any Colour You Like wrote:
I spent 20 mins on the rowing machine today, that thing sorts the men from the boys.
I was at karate tonight getting punched and punching, does that sort the women from the girls?
Actually, we did have to do "hindu" push-ups, which was a first for me. Lots of fun.
He called it "Japanese" push-ups though, and when I googled them, I found http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkGOQfjpRK4" rel="nofollow - this , and it looks like some crazy insane (if not inane) sh*t, if you ask me...
Hindu pushups are awesome
Those Japanese pushups look pretty hazardous on the joints. From what I've read, pushups on the wrists/knuckles really aren't beneficial as far as building functional/aesthetic muscle goes + are only particularly useful if you've sustained an injury which makes it difficult to flex your wrist as you would in a normal pushup.
Went to the gym yesterday, absolutely destroyed my legs doing my squats and have nearly reached my current goal squat weight of 1.5x my body weight. Feels good.
Posted By: Apsalar
Date Posted: May 19 2011 at 02:35
mmm... marital stuff (like Karate) is a great to enhance aerobic activities. My pilates teacher has been slowly introducing Russian Martial stuff into my program, which has me rolling around on the floor, legs a splay, looking like a right idiot, but I could think of a better way to start the day. Today he told me I'd the neurology of a cat rather than a runner, which I was infinitely please with
eek, those Japanese pushup look perilous! I used to do 'em on my knuckles (the plan ol' variety) as I'd a ganglion cyst in my wrist, so when flat palmed my arm would collapse underneath me, but otherwise a good way to make 'em harder is (hands) on a swissball with you feet elevated on a bench.
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: May 19 2011 at 09:30
TheGazzardian wrote:
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
TheGazzardian wrote:
I'm not a runner but I am a biker. The most I've done in a day is 12 hours (including breaks) which was probably close to 100KM.
I try to go out as much as possible and am lucky to live in a city where bike paths are plentiful and there are lots of places to lock your bikes downtown. Had a meeting downtown last week, biked there, got to follow a beautiful river and go along the reservoir with a great view of the mountains in the distance. Got downtown with only a small amount of city biking, locked up, cleaned up, had the meeting, biked home. Over 30km all said and done, in just over two hours. Very tiring though if you have to go to work when you get back home.
I'm doing a 85.2 mile (137 KM) ride this summer. I'm pumped.
Kick-ass! What's the ride?
It's the called the Toure De Shore. The ride itself is like 62 miles I think, but I'm going a little further myself. It basically takes you from my city to a vacation spot.
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Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: May 19 2011 at 09:37
I think I might start trying to Hindu pushups. I always like to switch up my exercises.
Just about to head off for my usual run, but I've been wondering...
What makes you run?
Personally, I never was athletic, but when things started getting rocky with my ex (a b*****d: he didn't like prog ), I started going on long walks just to get the heck out of the house, and the person that supported me the most throughout the ordeal happened to be a jogger (and a shotokan black belt, so it's also I got interested in it too, except I do kyokushin karate) who had been through the exact same thing, the same process.
At some point during those walks, I started jogging a bit, then a bit more, and I thing I became I full on jogger a year and a half ago, I guess.
I never set out on any particular goal, except perhaps mental health, and at this point, after 2-3- days of not exercising, I become moody, somewhat depressed too. I've been wondering if other people feel like that without exercise.
Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: May 20 2011 at 22:52
Just ordered a pair of New Balance Minimus Trail online for 110$ AUD shipped, should be here in about a week. Looking forward to getting some new (minimal) shoes a lot.
Also, I finally managed to squat 95kgs for reps (10 kilos shy of my goal of 1.5 times my body weight) yesterday. My legs are absolutely killing me now though.
June wrote:
Just about to head off for my usual run, but I've been wondering...
What makes you run?
For me, knowing that I can get better and better and the satisfaction I get from seeing my times go up, even by just a second or so. I used to have a lot of problems getting to sleep as well, and I find that running at around 10PM for an hour or so is all I need to help me sleep much better in addition to massively relaxing me.
I started running when I decided I wasn't happy being unfit about 4-5 years ago, haven't looked back since. The only times I go without running are when I'm sick.
Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: May 20 2011 at 22:58
June wrote:
Just about to head off for my usual run, but I've been wondering...
What makes you run?
I don't
At least not usually.
I guess I don't really belong in this thread, do I?
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Posted By: June
Date Posted: May 22 2011 at 12:38
progkidjoel wrote:
I used to have a lot of problems getting to sleep as well, and I find that running at around 10PM for an hour or so is all I need to help me sleep much better in addition to massively relaxing me.
Yeah, that's a great bonus!
I went jogging on the mountain this morning, took a different trail that was less steep, but longer than my usual trail. 4.5 km up, but it was so freaking muddy, I had to stop often to figure out where to go, so it was difficult to get a decent rhythm going. I took a 3.9 trail going down, and it was much more enjoyable.
But now the side of my right foot stings like a bitch now... I guess I overestimated my uphill jogging abilities
A pretty place though:
Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: May 22 2011 at 15:12
I should resume jogging, really. Should have done that since April, even with a more capricious weather than expected, but I've experienced bad health. Surprisingly, if last fall I struggled to drop under 90 kilos, with all the months of hiatus I somehow lost even more, now at around 83-84.
Jogging would still mean running half an hour around the block, nothing more.
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: May 22 2011 at 15:36
^ you that heavy? It doesn't show at all.
Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: May 22 2011 at 15:46
Must be the shirts or large T-s. My bacon belly would be, otherwise, visible.
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Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: May 30 2011 at 21:13
Ran two miles today in some really heavy wind, and I mean it was windy for even Kansas. Listened to some of Slow Riot by GY!BE, "Moya" is always a cool song to run to.
Winds can be a bitch, yeah. I guess it's good training. Hard to breath though, I'm sure there's some kind of trick or something.
Haven't been able to jog longer than 4k myself (well, I guess I could have, but I'm being anal about my routes) since my long route is still totally flooded.
Speaking of good songs, not prog, but I was just telling a friend on FB that http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSHf1svbQrA" rel="nofollow - Patti Smith's Free Money worked really good. Especially for sprints.