Winter In Eden for Symphonic, Heavy or Prog Metal?
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Topic: Winter In Eden for Symphonic, Heavy or Prog Metal?
Posted By: progrockfreak
Subject: Winter In Eden for Symphonic, Heavy or Prog Metal?
Date Posted: June 15 2011 at 07:38
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Here is a band who might be worth a listen for one of the three categories mentioned above in the topic subject. They are a five-piece from the North East of England who play dark but very melodic symphonic metal. The vocalist, Vicky Johnson is excellent without ever needing to resort to the wailing operatic style of the front ladies so many similar bands, and there are no male growls anywhere either to detract from the music. The rest of the band, Sam Cull on guitar, Steve Johnson on keys, Ian Heddle on bass and Wayne McAloon on drums all excel in their respective crafts too. They are similar to Kingfisher Sky in many respects, who are already on here. Unsigned at present, though I can't understand why - their superb 2010 album "Awakening" is available from their website http://www.winterineden.com/Band.htm" rel="nofollow - http://www.winterineden.com/Band.htm , or you can download it from iTunes. Also, 4 of the 13 tracks are available to listen to in full at their myspace page http://www.myspace.com/winterineden" rel="nofollow - http://www.myspace.com/winterineden They are on tour at present, notably supporting Credo on Sunday July 3rd at the Robin 2 Bilston, UK - as well as playing the Ravenheart Rock Festival at the Asylum 2 in Birmingham, UK on Saturday 9th July. Quite a few YouTube clips of the band exist, both live performances and tracks from the album. Here are a couple to whet your appetite. I know there are a lot of bands springing up lately with a vaguely similar style, but this to me is definitely one of the better ones. Their songwriting is top notch.
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: June 15 2011 at 08:11
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Saw the videos and heard MySpace, Symphonic they aren't. And honestly I don't see them as really Prog. Iván ------------- 
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Posted By: progrockfreak
Date Posted: June 15 2011 at 08:52
| I don't know what sub-genre they might come under, that's why I put three options in the topic title. Once again it all comes down to different people's interpretation of what constitutes prog, and how to sub-classify it. All I know is that I, personally, really like this music - along with a vast number of bands that HAVE made it onto Progarchives. At least I have given everyone here an opportunity to listen to what to me is really good songwriting, and certainly not mainstream rock or pop - if the band is rejected as not being prog then so be it. |
Posted By: Windhawk
Date Posted: June 15 2011 at 09:16
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If admissable it'll be as prog metal. Depends on what their material is like, first YT vid had prog metal tendencies, second one about none at all. If they have (much) more material like the first one, by preference with a more sophisticated compositional approach, they may have a chance in prog metal. Nowhere else. ------------- Websites I work with: http://www.progressor.net http://www.houseofprog.com My profile on Mixcloud: https://www.mixcloud.com/haukevind/ |
Posted By: Marty McFly
Date Posted: June 15 2011 at 09:26
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Sounds to me like Symphonic Metal. Maybe Prog, but it probably won't be easy. By no way it's Symphonic Prog, it's so different from other Symphonic bands. Actually, how did you get the idea that it's Symphonic Prog, other that it's Symphonic Metal ? EDIT: Oh, seems like Olav was faster. Still, if anything, it will be Prog Metal. And even this is very, very uncertain. ------------- There's a point where "avant-garde" and "experimental" becomes "terrible" and "pointless," -Andyman1125 on Lulu  Even my |
Posted By: progrockfreak
Date Posted: June 15 2011 at 10:11
| OK, I guess that's told me!! Topic closed as far as I am concerned, but it won't stop me enjoying them at the Robin 2 a fortnight on Sunday. |
Posted By: Marty McFly
Date Posted: June 15 2011 at 10:16
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Hey, hey, calm down a bit. Nobody's telling that it's not music for enjoyment. I'm only stating inevitable - they will have hard time getting here. ------------- There's a point where "avant-garde" and "experimental" becomes "terrible" and "pointless," -Andyman1125 on Lulu Even my |
Posted By: progrockfreak
Date Posted: June 15 2011 at 11:43
| So many great bands that are quite widely considered as having prog leanings at the very least can't be found on here other than in forum discussions that ultimately lead to rejection. I suppose I should have realised that if Within Temptation get the resounding rejection that they did, then Winter In Eden had no chance. I love this site, and will always refer to it and do my best to contribute to it where I feel I have something that may be of interest, but I really feel it is misleadingly named ProgARCHIVES when there are so many gaps left as a result of the selection/rejection procedure. I made a suggestion in the Scorpions topic started in this same forum by 'listen' on 30th Jan this year ( http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=55145&PID=4159121#4159121" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=55145&PID=4159121#4159121 ) that even bands that were rejected by the Collaborators should get a brief page on here explaining why - a simple page that would turn up in a google search for them made by a casual user interested in finding out about them, rather than no reference at all other than the discussion in the forums. Lot of extra work for everyone I know, but if it is truly to be an "archive" site... |
Posted By: Marty McFly
Date Posted: June 15 2011 at 14:20
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Well, be sure that Metal team here is working their arses off trying to evaluate and add hundreds of artists :-) Most of them are new groups. But even if Within Temptation were here, it wouldn't mean that Winter in Eden would get here. If X is here then Y should rule can be applied only to some degree, not at all times. Scorpions were mentioned few times in past, but never made it here. ------------- There's a point where "avant-garde" and "experimental" becomes "terrible" and "pointless," -Andyman1125 on Lulu Even my |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: June 15 2011 at 14:45
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Progrockfreak, in my case, I can't admit this band as Symphonic when there isn't a slight connection with the genre, in my opinion is not even remotely Prog, but I can't say a word about Prog Metal, because they have autonomy that I respect.
Now, you may believe a band is Prog or has Prog leanings, but WINTER IN EDEN is not one of them no matter what you believe. I took the time to check other important and reliable Prog sites: GEPR: Doesn't include the band. Proggnosis: No mention of Winter in Eden Progressive Ears: No mention of Winter in Eden Progressor: They don't mention them DPRP: They don't even know about this band Checked Google and apart from their website, the only other page that mentions them is "Sonic Cathedral .Com (Where the Women of METAL rock)".....Incredibly they say that Winter in Eden is more Gothic than Rock.
So the fact you believe they are Prog, doesn't make Winter in Eden "WIDELY CONSIDERED AS HAVING PROG LEANINGS), as a fact, the Prog community and reliable Prog sites don't consider them Prog..
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ProgrockFreak wrote:Posted By: progrockfreak
Date Posted: June 15 2011 at 14:57
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I know everyone is doing their best. The site has its limitations, as it surely must run purely by volunteers in their spare time. I can't comment on the criteria by which artists are judged because I have no involvement in the process. I understand it is ultimately done by a democratic vote once everyone has had their say. That seems fair enough to me. If enough people with sufficient expertise in the genre concerned get to cast their vote, then the result should be accepted. It's just a shame that so much decent music that is perhaps only arguably within the framework of what you guys accept as 'prog' gets lost along the way. I guess we will always have to rely on sites like rateyourmusic.com for the "ones that get away". This album by Winter In Eden so far has just one review in French on that site...and not a particularly complimentary one either!! Each to our own eh? Edit: The previous post appeared before I had finished submitting this. I didn't want to imply that Winter In Eden in particular were widely considered as having prog leanings. They are hardly known at the moment ANYWHERE!! I was referring here to other artists such as Yngwie Malmsteen who have dozens of albums behind them, newer bands like Elbow who are quite highly regarded in some proggy circles, and just look at the struggle there was to get Mike Batt added! On the other side of the coin, David Gilmour doesn't really consider Pink Floyd as being prog - but THEY got in ok! The reason that so few sites mention this band probably has as much to do with their lack of exposure as any perceived lack of prog credentials. There ARE some other very good reviews out there besides the Sonic Cathedral one: These are just listings one to five from the first page that google gives you when you type the album title followed by the word 'review' in. http://www.rocktopia.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&catid=910:cd-reviews&id=817:winter-in-eden-awakening&Itemid=121" rel="nofollow - http://www.rocktopia.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&catid=910:cd-reviews&id=817:winter-in-eden-awakening&Itemid=121 http://www.myspace.com/ravenheartmusic/blog/534062732" rel="nofollow - http://www.myspace.com/ravenheartmusic/blog/534062732 http://www.femmemetal.net/winterinedenawakeningrev.htm" rel="nofollow - http://www.femmemetal.net/winterinedenawakeningrev.htm http://www.midlandsrocks.co.uk/reviews/album-reviews/winter-in-eden---the-awakening" rel="nofollow - http://www.midlandsrocks.co.uk/reviews/album-reviews/winter-in-eden---the-awakening http://www.metalstorm.net/pub/review.php?review_id=8425" rel="nofollow - http://www.metalstorm.net/pub/review.php?review_id=8425 All really excellent, & while I agree they are not prog sites but sites that specialise in metal, does it mean that just because an album is first and foremost perceived as metal it totally excludes it from being evaluated for possible prog content? Just to show how subjective and widely open to personal interpretation all this actually is, compare those five excellent reviews with the one that follows them in the list: (warning: not to be read if there are minors in the area - this review doesn't mince words...) http://www.globaldomination.se/reviews/winter-in-eden-awakening" rel="nofollow - http://www.globaldomination.se/reviews/winter-in-eden-awakening Hard to believe it's the same album being reviewed really, but there you are. I'm sorry if I've offended anyone by suggesting this is prog when you all clearly consider that it is not. I still hope someone on here will enjoy the clips I have uploaded and maybe check out some more of the album's content. The band deserve to be heard more widely as far as I'm concerned. So far not a single band that I have suggested in the past 6 months has made it onto the site - perhaps I had better restrict myself to more general sites in future, like the other one I mentioned above, and leave the 'prog' to the experts. After all, as well as all the really excellent music that this site champions, there also a hell of a lot of music on here and classed as prog that is NOWHERE NEAR as enjoyable to listen to as Winter In Eden. Thank goodness that in the final analysis we can all choose what we want to listen to irrespective of what the experts classify it as. Good luck Winter In Eden - at least I'm with you.
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: June 15 2011 at 16:37
That's an important point Progrockfreak, this is a Prog site, so we must be sure a band is Prog before adding them to our database, then see in which sub-genre fits best. Prog is not an award for goiod music, the great and even the decent music may be added to a different database, I won't ask Punk 77 to add Yes or Genesis to their database because it's great music, they have to add only bands they are sure is Punk, in the same way we must be careful.. In this case I'm the more radical of the Symphonic Team (IMO at least 5% of the bands here are not Prog), but Scott and Torodd's votes are worth as much as mine, if a band gets 2 votes it's in, even if don't agree. But in the case of this band:
But they aren't in any other Prog site (At least 2 of them are more open than us), it's very unlikely they are a Prog band Now, lets see the sites you present:
It's clear,. they don't belong here. Iván
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Posted By: progrockfreak
Date Posted: June 15 2011 at 17:08
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Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: June 15 2011 at 18:43
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I agree they don't belong here.
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Posted By: Bonnek
Date Posted: June 16 2011 at 01:35
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The lamp telleth the truth. |
Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: June 16 2011 at 17:46
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Posted By: Rock-On
Date Posted: July 08 2011 at 09:42
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Hi All, I've just stumbled on this site as I was looking for WIE after seeing them at the Robin2 as well. Its a hard call, as I think they branch into a few styles, from metal, prog, a chunk of rock, even a bit of a commercial edge (which isn't a bad thing). I must say they do have an style of their own. I don't think the video clips are the best example of their proggy side. The Awakening track probably shows that genre off better. I suppose a description of a bands style is for the individual listener to decide. In anycase, I was really impressed with their performance and even though I love CREDO, they where a breath of fresh air.
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Posted By: yam yam
Date Posted: July 08 2011 at 23:55
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I have the "Awakening" album, and it is a cracker if you like female fronted metal-oriented acts. The style does indeed vary from track to track - veering towards metal one minute, to something more akin to Panic Room and similar bands the next. Is it actually prog? In places probably not, in others possibly yes. They're playing at The Ravenheart Rock Festival at the Asylum 2, Birmingham, UK, later today (9th July) if anyone local wants to check them out live. For those that DO like this style of music, another very similar UK band (from Kent) is Crimson Tears. They are not very active at the moment, though still together, and did just one album in 2007 called "The Dark Awakening" They too are not on Progarchves, and I doubt that it's worth starting a topic for them since their style is so similar to Winter In Eden (even the title of the album is similar!), but for anyone interested, here's the 1st track from their album: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uErdRUEBKSU" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uErdRUEBKSU For anyone wishing to hear more, there are other tracks from this album on YouTube (all of them in fact), as well as some live vids.
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Posted By: Rock-On
Date Posted: July 09 2011 at 07:10
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Quite agree. Well it's got people talking about these bands anyway. I'll try to get there |
Posted By: Richie Music Man
Date Posted: August 01 2011 at 10:35
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I think this is just getting silly.
You've made your point. I've noticed that you are now gunning for the band. This forum is nothing to do with them so its not their fault they have been rightly or wrongly been posted here.
I think you're quotes are also bias. When making quotes to back up your argument please do not trunkate them to put a negative or positive slant to bolster your opinion. The full quote from Rocktopia is,
"I still remember initially giving this a quick audition in the company of our esteemed editor and his comment “they will be positively dangerous if they could write a decent chorus” continues to flay me after giving the album more than half a dozen listens – because this CD is absolutely dripping with warm, gorgeous melodies, stunning arrangements and a quintessential flair"
I think that is a little different to "they can't write a decent chorus", that wasn't the opinion or intention of the reviewer.
I've only joined because I saw them at the Ravenheart Festival and they stood out head and shoulders over ther rest of the bands there. After searching for them I came across this forum.
Prog or not, I think they are a band to watch.
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: August 01 2011 at 13:21
It may be a band to watch, but not a band to add to a Prog site. That's the whole point. Iván -------------
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Posted By: yam yam
Date Posted: March 19 2012 at 11:40
For anyone who IS watching this band (and that definitely includes me  ), here is a bit of an update.On 8th August 2011 the band agreed a record deal with Independent UK-based label, Lycan Records. Ralph Rea, Head of Lycan Records, said about the deal, "After witnessing an inspired ‘Winter in Eden’ live performance at one of last summer’s UK festivals, I knew immediately that I would love the opportunity to work with the band & look forward to a long & successful partnership". They also agreed distribution deals last year for Germany with Progressive Promotions Records (in April), and for the USA with Sonic Cathedral (in June). The mixing of their follow-up album to 'Awakening' (called 'Echoes Of Betrayal') was completed on 24th February 2012, and the album is officially released on Monday 23rd April. The album is available to pre-order now from the Winter In Eden Online Store: http://www.winterineden.com/Store.htm" rel="nofollow - http://www.winterineden.com/Store.htm . On 4th March 2012 they were nominated for 'Best New Band' for the Classic Rock Society awards (the honour eventually went to 'Concrete Lake', led by 'The Tangent' guitarist Luke Machin, & who in way of celebration changed their name 10 days later to "MASCHINE"...  - guess I'll have to do a thread for them now too, since they aren't on here yet).This Sunday (25th March) Vicky and Steve from the band will be special guests on Paul Baker's radio show from 3pm to 6pm on the award-winning arfm.co.uk. ( http://www.arfm.co.uk/" rel="nofollow - http://www.arfm.co.uk/ ). This will be the first interview talking about the new album, and hopefully a track or two will be played from it... They probably still aren't a band to add to a prog site - but you never know...the new album could be a prog masterpiece....or not, as the case may be!  Whatever the truth, I know there are people who visit this site who enjoy this band very much, so I make no apologies for updating this thread. Their 2012 tour kicks off on 26th April at The Live Lounge in Durham, and the following day they are playing the Cambridge Rock Spring Fest at Barton, Cambridge: http://www.winterineden.com/Tour.htm" rel="nofollow - http://www.winterineden.com/Tour.htm . Peace. |
Posted By: yam yam
Date Posted: April 07 2012 at 19:34
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For what it's worth, I just received my regular email update from progrock.co.uk, run by the well-respected David Robinson of F2 Music Ltd., & from where I buy many of my CDs.He has this to say regarding the new Winter In Eden album: WINTER IN EDEN - Echoes Of Betrayal - GBP 9.99 Second CD playing excellent heavy Prog with great female vocals. Just saying...! Edit: Here are some of the tracks from the first album, since there were only two live clips included with the o.p. (Note: the second of these tubes is almost 7 minutes long, but the track itself is only 4 minutes &18 seconds...I guess the uploader either fell asleep, or became mesmerised by the beauty of what he/she was listening to...  Sorry about the 2 and a half minutes of silence at the end of this one...!)It may not be classic prog, but it's great listening...I await the new CD eagerly!  |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: April 08 2012 at 10:32
I know David Robinson, I was one of the first to support MAGENTA when they released their debut for F2 Records.....I still have a never released CD of MAGENTA I used for a conference in Lima, nice guy. But....People who promote bands, will tell their audience what they want to hear. Iván -------------
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Posted By: yam yam
Date Posted: April 13 2012 at 21:31
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Yes indeed, people who sell CD's for a living aren't generally going to write emails to customers saying they're crap! But David doesn't usually sell crap on his site. Looking beyond the artists actually signed to F2 Music (Lee Abraham, Bittertown, Citizen Cain, Credo, Ezra, Sean Filkins, Manning, Seven Day Hunt, Solstice, Steve Thorne, Tinyfish, Twelfth Night...and previously Magenta) he tends to be pretty selective regarding the CDs he stocks from other labels.Of course, it doesn't really matter what David or anyone else says about this band - we ultimately have to listen to their recordings to understand what sort of music it is that they are playing. So here's the first sample released from the new album...hot off the press, and less than a day old! In 10 days time we should have a chance to hear the rest of it...! http://www.winterineden.com/wie/Store.htm" rel="nofollow - http://www.winterineden.com/wie/Store.htm .
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Posted By: yam yam
Date Posted: April 23 2012 at 17:31
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Album released today. Still waiting for my copy, but track 7, 'Lies' is available as a free download for a limited time as Classic Rock Magazine's 'track of the day' here: http://www.classicrockmagazine.com/news/track-of-the-day-winter-in-eden/" rel="nofollow - http://www.classicrockmagazine.com/news/track-of-the-day-winter-in-eden/ . Have a listen and see what you think! Sadly, the Cambridge Rock Springfest at Barton has been cancelled due to adverse weather conditions. However you can still see them at the Loveshack in Durham 26th April, The Wesley Centre in Rotherham on 28th April and the Asylum 2 in Birmingham on 4th May. The Bristol gig on 19th May is no longer taking place at The Spring Tavern as the venue is closing on 12th May, but the band are looking at alternative venues on 19th May in Bristol.
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: April 23 2012 at 19:12
Hi Yam Yam, because I respect you and I know you will accept other opinions, I'll give you mine. IMHO it's commercial soft metal. After a pompous intro, it becomes very repetitive, they sound great, but not Prog Archives material I believe. Also watched the video and my opinion is similar. But it's the Prog Metal Team's decision, not mine. Iván -------------
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Posted By: yam yam
Date Posted: April 24 2012 at 04:35
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Hi Iván. Yes, I accept other opinions only too readily! - I am very well aware of my own limitations regarding my knowledge of prog and its sub genres, and I know Winter In Eden does not play the sort of music that is universally accepted as 'prog'. However, they do seem to have sufficient originality to me to put them in a slightly different category to the more well known female-fronted goth metal acts from the continent. I saw them play a couple of times in the English West Midlands last summer, and they put on a very convincing show indeed, which is why I have persevered with this thread up to the release of their second CD. They are generating a lot of attention in all the right places in the UK, so I thought that I should give them as much of as a chance as I could of getting their style of music accepted onto this site.It doesn't look as though it will happen, however. Nobody within the prog community either within or outside of the UK has offered any support for the band in this thread (and it shows up very prominently in Google searches for the band), so it appears I am a lone voice, and therefore obviously mistaken in my perception of how this music relates to progressive rock. That is often the case where something as subjective music is concerned - if you find that you really like a band or a piece of music, you perhaps tend to hear certain aspects that you would like to be present within it, which perhaps aren't. I guess this is the difference between a seasoned and well-respected music critic such as yourself, and an interested but casual listener like me, who really only puts on a CD for the enjoyment he gets out of it. I am probably not as able as some people on here to listen to my music from a purely objective perspective, and judge it accordingly, so I apologise if you feel I have pushed this topic too far. In any event, it has probably already served its purpose. Winter In Eden have their place on Progarchives - even if it will only ever be as a controversial thread in the forums! People will be directed here from time to time, will read the debate, listen to the music in the vids that have been embedded here, and go away a happier and wiser person than they were before they dropped by. That can't be a bad thing...can it?
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: April 24 2012 at 11:59
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I admit it was an interesting experience to listen them. BTW: You think you have limitations, I don't, you have a lot of passion and that influences our opinions, for example, I felt tempted to support the inclusion of Meatloaf due to Bat Out of Hell because I'm a passionate fan of the Meatloaf - Steinman music, but after some time I noticed my passion for their music was clouding my opinion But it's good, there's no music without passion (At least not great music). Iván
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Posted By: yam yam
Date Posted: June 18 2014 at 05:50
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Well, the band are due to release their third album
'Court Of Conscience' on 8th August 2014, so since this thread is here (even if it is never likely to lead anywhere as far as inclusion of the band on PA is concerned) I see no harm in updating it. Recorded in the Netherlands, it contains eleven songs which build and further
refine the unique style that is Winter in Eden. Produced by Ruud Jolie (Within
Temptation) and mixed by Stefan Helleblad (Within Temptation), it also features
guest vocals by the multi award winning Damian Wilson (Threshold, Headspace, Maiden uniteD) and Jermain
van der Bogt (For All We Know, Ayreon).
The result is powerful, modern and balanced. Each instrument can clearly be heard within the Metal and the Symphonic, and the live strings on ‘The Script’ are truly wonderous. ‘Court of Conscience’ retains the band’s signature of thought-provoking lyrics mixed with memorable melodies. Whilst no two songs are alike, fans will be delighted to hear that the band’s approach to this album is a familiar one. With hard and heavy anthems such as ‘Knife Edge’ and ‘Toxicate’, more chilled and progressive tracks such as ‘Burdened’ and ‘It’s Not Enough’ along with the blues rock of ‘Affliction’, this collection of songs has something for each taste and mood. The album was mastered in the US by Sterling Sound.  Guitarist Sam Cull reveals “Whenever we came off the road in between tours, we were really hyped and ready to write the 3rd record. Everybody was in the right headspace and the band was tighter than ever so it was a perfect storm. We jumped in and found ourselves 11-12 songs deep fairly quickly” Singer Vicky Johnson about working with Jolie and Helleblad: “Whether you’re talking about Metal, Hip-Hop, Country, or Mozart, all music tries to do the same basic thing: turn a feeling into sound. With the help of Ruud and Stefan we were able to achieve this and feel that ‘Court of Conscience’ captured the Winter in Eden vibe perfectly.” Court of Conscience track listing: 1. Knife Edge 2. With Intent 3. Critical Mass Part 1 - Burdened 4. Toxicate 5. Order Of Your Faith 6. It's Not Enough 7. Before It Began 8. The Script 9. Constant Tomorrows 10. Behind Closed Doors 11. Affliction The album can be pre-ordered at http://www.winterineden.com/court-of-conscience.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.winterineden.com/court-of-conscience.html No samples as yet - sorry! |
Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: June 18 2014 at 13:49
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Listening to this band, there is nothing else than symphonic/gothic metal, so I suggest that the discussion (if any) be moved to Non-prog music lounge
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Posted By: yam yam
Date Posted: August 10 2014 at 06:59
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One sample up on YouTube now, and new album release imminent: Seems to follow much the same formula as their previous releases, which tends more towards symphonic/gothic metal than prog, but they are at least getting a fair hearing now: http://progfreak.com/Winter-in-Eden-159540.html?path=pa/recent" rel="nofollow - http://progfreak.com/Winter-in-Eden-159540.html?path=pa/recent . Not off to the best of starts, it must be said...but hey, Thanos - they're coming to Rotherham on 6th Sept (Classic Rock Society) - why don't you pop along and give them a cheer!
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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: August 11 2014 at 04:08
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I am away that day but would not necessarily spend my pennies to check them out anyway (no offence, a matter of taste)
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Posted By: yam yam
Date Posted: August 11 2014 at 07:15
LOL! Only joking...!  They are on with two more quite decent metal bands http://hekztheband.com/" rel="nofollow - HeKz and http://www.morpheusrising.co.uk/" rel="nofollow - Morpheus Rising - neither of whom are on PA, but both have featured on the free sampler CDs given out with the glossy 'Prog' magazine. It'll be a damn good night for melodic metal fans, that's for sure - with maybe just a hint of prog here and there...?
Edit: Both these other bands are on MMA: http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/artist/hekz/" rel="nofollow - http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/artist/hekz/ and http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/artist/morpheus-rising" rel="nofollow - http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/artist/morpheus-rising . Morpheus Rising are listed as Traditional Heavy Metal, but HeKz as Progressive Metal, so maybe you might want to check them out sometime? There are several samples from their 'Tabula Rasa' album on Youtube, plus a review of the CD by the Dutch fellow LiveProg. They are also opening for Welsh proggers 'The Reasoning' on their forthcoming UK tour in October/November. Here's an 18-minute montage of teasers from the album on soundcloud, which will give you a decent insight into their sound: https://soundcloud.com/#metaldwarfmusic/sets/hekz-tabula-rasa-album-clips" rel="nofollow - https://soundcloud.com/#metaldwarfmusic/sets/hekz-tabula-rasa-album-clips . Probably a tad too much into melodic metal territory for you guys to accept them for PA, but worth a listen if you've got 20 minutes to spare, I feel.
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Posted By: yam yam
Date Posted: August 19 2014 at 08:27
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With two 'no' votes on progfreak the inevitable door leading back out onto the street looms large, but for anyone interested, they are guests on aiiradio.net tonight - Brian Dade is featuring the album on his 'album munchie' show:
10pm(UK) 11pm(CET) 5pm(EDT) 2pm(PDT) - 'An Evening With WINTER IN EDEN' - One of the UK's foremost symphonic metal bands, North-East England's Winter In Eden release their 3rd studio album, 'COURT OF CONSCIENCE', shortly. "I'm delighted to welcome back Vicky, Steve, Samuel, Steve and Ian, as they join us live, via skype, to chat about the band..past events, their album launch, festival appearances and gigs, and introduce us track by track to this excellent new album, recorded in The Netherlands, and produced by Within Temptation's Ruud Jolie.! There'll also be a smattering of tracks from their back catalogue. Join us in the chatroom... http://www.chat.aiiradio.net/" rel="nofollow - http://www.chat.aiiradio.net/ ... to ask questions, comment on the music, or throw abuse at me..! Listen live via http://www.aiiradio.net/%20or" rel="nofollow - http://www.aiiradio.net/ or http://www.stream.aiiradio.net/" rel="nofollow - http://www.stream.aiiradio.net/ or http://mobile.livestream.com/aiiradionet" rel="nofollow - http://mobile.livestream.com/aiiradionet ." Edit: The show was recorded, and can be listened to for another week or so at http://www.livestream.com/aiiradionet/video?clipId=pla_b42b1b46-1a8d-43aa-abbd-68fdefa1b7e2" rel="nofollow - http://www.livestream.com/aiiradionet/video?clipId=pla_b42b1b46-1a8d-43aa-abbd-68fdefa1b7e2 .
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Posted By: yam yam
Date Posted: August 27 2014 at 06:38
Rejected with three straight 'no' votes, so we can finally draw a line under this long-running topic. Glad that an evaluation was eventually carried out though, so thanks to the Prog Metal team for hearing the band out. 
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Posted By: yam yam
Date Posted: September 01 2014 at 16:40
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One final epitaph... Winter in Eden were played on Shaun Geraghty's 'The Prog Mill' show last night on Stafford radio: http://www.staffordradio.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.staffordradio.com , https://www.facebook.com/theprogmill" rel="nofollow - https://www.facebook.com/theprogmill . This is an excellent show, featuring some fine prog bands - & last night's playlist was as follows: 1. Galahad - 21st Century Painted Lady (Seize the Day) 2. Monarch Trail - Silent World (Skye) 3. The Watch - A.T.L.A.S. (Tracks from the Alps) 4. Neon ...Leaves - Pandora's Box of Dreams (Cinema Verite) 5. Freedom to Glide - Rain Pt 1 (Rain) 6. Pendragon - Beautiful Soul (Men Who Climb Mountains) 7. Ange - Le Ballon de Billy (Un Petit Tour en Puis S'en Vent) 8 .Winter in Eden - The Script (Court of Conscience) 9. Yes - Some Are Born (Tormato 2004 re-release) 10. Shadow Merchant - Mid Life Crisis (The Tunnel) 11. Mindfields - Ready to Live (One) 12. Genesis - One for the Vine (Wind and Wuthering) 13. Unto Us - Humand Landscape/These Four Walls (The Human Landscape) Winter In Eden are in pretty good company there, for sure!! The Prog Mill is repeated Tuesday evening between 9-11pm UK time on http://www.staffordradio.com" rel="nofollow - www.staffordradio.com (or via the http://tunein.com/radio/Stafford-Radio-s151571/" rel="nofollow - tune in website, and on internet radio platforms), and also nightly on their Rewind facility. Go to the website any night at 10pm UK time and click on 'Stafford Radio Rewind'.
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