also, on this occasion, I would thank anyone who will contribute my knowledge about the first progressive rock album in other countires, espcially in Italy (is there anything that might be considered as prog before spooky Jacula?) but also in  France, Netherlands and any other country actualy.

 

thanks for anyone who helps!

 

 

Le Orme's Collage, with the important song "Sguardo Verso il Cielo" in 1971

New Trolls Concerto Grosso, which was also important in 1971, though not in the same way as PFM

 

Less successful, but all from 1971, were:

Panna Fredda

I Giganti- Terra in Bocca

Planetarium- Infinity

 

And there were many bands who had released a kind of Italian proto-prog music on albums pre-1972:

The Trip

Il Balletto di Bronzo

RDM

Formula 3

Nuova Idea

 

And the earliest Italian album that could *possibly* be labeled "prog" was probably the album by La Stella di Mario Schifano, from 1967, but it's such a weird mixture of pop and tape experiments that's so dissimilar to what we all know as RPI that I wouldn't consider it a good candidate.

 

So the further back you go, the less typical of RPI it gets.  ITCOTCK surely wasn't the first British prog album since important progressive albums by the Moody Blues, Soft Machine, Procol Harum, and others came out before it, but its influence makes it stand out, with the benefit of hindsight.  You have to weigh "genuine progginess" against "earliness."  And since we're talking from a historical perspective, I think influence and importance deserves some consideration too.

 

With all that considered, I think New Trolls' "Concerto Grosso" album should probably take the title of "first true RPI album."  It did clarify the style, and it was a big success when it came out.  However, I should admit that I actually don't like the album much at all and strongly prefer the first PFM album!

Amon Düül's Phallus Dei  really intrests me, never heard on them.

Xhol's first album is quite progressive too in my eyes, at least some of the pieces there.

 

I don't know, but the Moody Blues and Procol Harum 60's staff never was in my eyes real progressive rock. but that's only my opinion anyway.

also La Stella di Mario Schifano never was progressive rock in my eyes, rather Psychadelic pop or something like that.

About "Can" I can't really say, because I never heard all the album (Monster Movie), but from what I heard it isn't very progressive too to my ears.

 

enjoy the weekend people!

I heard a bit Amon Duul II's Phalus Dei though, and it is progressive in my eyes, I have to say.

 

another thing, which is quite the same actualy, I don't know if to open another post about it (frankly I don't know how to phrase it as a headline so I'll just ask it here):

 

what about first progressive rock albums from other countries? the main countries that intrests me are France and the Netherlands, as I said in my first messege, (and Spain too actualy, where I'm truely familiar only with mid 70's Triana and great Alameda of the 80's), but any other country will be as equally great .

 

thanks for all who helps.

 

For France:

 

Gerard Manset is listed as the earliest artist with his self-titled album & Animal On Est Mal, both from '68.  There are a handful of albums from '69:

 

Alpes & Catherine Ribeiro - Catherine Ribeiro & 2 Bis

Emmanuel Booz - Au Restaurant D'Alice

Dashiell Hedayatt - La Devanture Des Ivresses [as by Melmoth]

Jean-Luc Ponty - JLP Experience w/the George Duke Trio; Electric Connection; King Kong and More Than Meets the Ear

 

For the Netherlands, either Golden Earring's Winter Harvest in '67 or Jan Akkerman's Talent For Sale, Golden Earring's Miracle Mirror or Group 1850's Agemo's Trip to Mother Earth, all from '68.

 

For Spain, Los Canarios' Liberate, Maquina's Why? or Smash's Glorieta de los Lotos, all from '70.

 

This is going strictly from what I've gleaned from the archives, themselves.