Use of Bass guitar in Prog
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Topic: Use of Bass guitar in Prog
Posted By: Mushroom Sword
Subject: Use of Bass guitar in Prog
Date Posted: June 19 2011 at 13:20
How do you like your bass? Raw, rare, or well done?
Is the bass a large factor in whether or not you like the music? Is it because of the way that they play? Of course, the examples I provided above are just quick views of who I thought would work well, they shouldn't bias your vote in this poll in any way, and can vary greatly.
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: June 19 2011 at 13:21
Depends on the piece.
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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: June 19 2011 at 13:26
Whatever Joachim Florent's style is.
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Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: June 19 2011 at 13:40
I really like "Entwistle/Squire" style and that´s my choice too, but I must to agree with above mentioned, that it depends on the piece.
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Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: June 19 2011 at 13:48
I'm going to use a slightly altered version of the last option: Depends on the piece, just turn it up!
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Posted By: Garden of Dreams
Date Posted: June 19 2011 at 13:50
I have to go with Geddy Lee's syncopation.
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Posted By: friso
Date Posted: June 19 2011 at 14:02
I love walking bass parts, but it does very much depend on the style of the music. Furthermore I've always felt well treated by Magma's bass-style.
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Posted By: Prog Geo
Date Posted: June 19 2011 at 14:20
I like many styles of bass playing. But I voted the last option. I like when the bass guitar follows the kick drum beats.
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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: June 19 2011 at 14:24
I played in a 3-piece band where the guitarist generated lush walls of processed sound, the drummer did elegant riffs on drums, cymbals, drum rack piping, the cat etc., and I did all lead guitar work on my bass guitar, Squire-style.
I actually sounded better at times than I do playing lead on my Les Paul!!
So, Squire it is for me. However, it really does depend upon the musical context....
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: June 19 2011 at 14:53
I like both Squire's and Lee's styles. Vote for Squire.
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Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: June 19 2011 at 16:50
I'm voting "Just turn it up!" As others have said, it all depends on the piece, and the best bassists can adapt to the demands of the music. So, any style can work right. The last option is simply the one that covers the most basses. 
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Posted By: MoodyRush
Date Posted: June 19 2011 at 21:05
I have a fever... and the only cure is more BASS! (paraphrased) I hate it where I can't hear distinguishable bass in a mix.
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Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: June 20 2011 at 00:08
Syncopated Rhythms going against the guitar (Geddy lee), usualy, but as other said depends of the piece
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: June 20 2011 at 06:29
Just turn it up. Bass is the most imprtant part to me, and the style they play in isnt as important as their creativity and ability to fit or lead the music.
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Posted By: QuestionableScum
Date Posted: June 21 2011 at 09:30
I think it really depends on the piece of music.
However, I am not a fan of the bass just following the guitar unless the guitar riff is so awesome that it just calls for it, and nothing would be added to the piece by using the bass in a way that either counters the riff melodically or harmonically.
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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: June 21 2011 at 09:57
I chose "original riffs", but what I was really hoping to vote for was "fuzz bass" like Hugh Hopper.
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Posted By: clarkpegasus4001
Date Posted: June 21 2011 at 13:16
cstack3 wrote:
So, Squire it is for me. However, it really does depend upon the musical context.... |
Wot Chuck said! 
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Posted By: Lark the Starless
Date Posted: June 21 2011 at 23:32
The first option, I would say.
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Posted By: The-time-is-now
Date Posted: June 22 2011 at 02:52
Original riffs give another dimension to the song. De profundis clamavit.
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Posted By: maynards_dick
Date Posted: June 23 2011 at 12:19
I like original riff generally,pay attention harmony with drum kick
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Posted By: thehallway
Date Posted: June 24 2011 at 08:46
All of these techniques have their place.... sometimes in one song!
But Yes's Fragile is the best (prog) album for bass; I mean, it's often the highest instrument in the mix on that album!
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: June 24 2011 at 08:50
thehallway wrote:
All of these techniques have their place.... sometimes in one song!
But Yes's Fragile is the best (prog) album for bass; I mean, it's often the highest instrument in the mix on that album! | the bass is pretty dominent in Supertramps albums Crime of the Century, Crises what Crises, Even in the Quitest Moments, Breakfast in America and ...Famous Last Words, most of SP music is build around a THICK skelleton of a droning Fender jazz bass, with a incrdibly thick, solid, sharp, crunshy, and confident melodic bass lines.
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Posted By: thehallway
Date Posted: June 24 2011 at 08:55
aginor wrote:
thehallway wrote:
All of these techniques have their place.... sometimes in one song!
But Yes's Fragile is the best (prog) album for bass; I mean, it's often the highest instrument in the mix on that album! | the bass is pretty dominent in Supertramps albums Crime of the Century, Crises what Crises, Even in the Quitest Moments, Breakfast in America and ...Famous Last Words, most of SP music is build around a THICK skelleton of a droning Fender jazz bass, with a incrdibly thick, solid, sharp, crunshy, and confident melodic bass lines.
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I'm afraid I'll have to disagree with you there! To my humble ears, Supertramp has some of the least noticeable bass in prog, and often, the bass's only contribution to a song is to double up with Davies' left hand on the Wurlitzer. Perhaps the song 'Lady' is an exception. But really, Supertramp would be one of the last bands to come into my mind when thinking of bass!
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: June 24 2011 at 09:11
Garden of Dreams wrote:
I have to go with Geddy Lee's syncopation. |
That was my choice too, but it all depends on the type of track.... Geddy's parts in Xanadu are what gave me the envy to try out the bass as a teenager
thehallway wrote:
aginor wrote:
thehallway wrote:
All of these techniques have their place.... sometimes in one song!
But Yes's Fragile is the best (prog) album for bass; I mean, it's often the highest instrument in the mix on that album! | the bass is pretty dominent in Supertramps albums Crime of the Century, Crises what Crises, Even in the Quitest Moments, Breakfast in America and ...Famous Last Words, most of SP music is build around a THICK skelleton of a droning Fender jazz bass, with a incrdibly thick, solid, sharp, crunshy, and confident melodic bass lines.
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I'm afraid I'll have to disagree with you there!
To my humble ears, Supertramp has some of the least noticeable bass in prog, and often, the bass's only contribution to a song is to double up with Davies' left hand on the Wurlitzer.
Perhaps the song 'Lady' is an exception. But really, Supertramp would be one of the last bands to come into my mind when thinking of bass! |
I completely disagree.
Dougie Thompson's often-brilliant basswork is one of Supertramp instantly recognizable traits..
May I suggest you re-listen to their classic albums with the bass in mind??
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: June 24 2011 at 09:22
thehallway wrote:
aginor wrote:
thehallway wrote:
All of these techniques have their place.... sometimes in one song!
But Yes's Fragile is the best (prog) album for bass; I mean, it's often the highest instrument in the mix on that album! | the bass is pretty dominent in Supertramps albums Crime of the Century, Crises what Crises, Even in the Quitest Moments, Breakfast in America and ...Famous Last Words, most of SP music is build around a THICK skelleton of a droning Fender jazz bass, with a incrdibly thick, solid, sharp, crunshy, and confident melodic bass lines.
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I'm afraid I'll have to disagree with you there!
To my humble ears, Supertramp has some of the least noticeable bass in prog, and often, the bass's only contribution to a song is to double up with Davies' left hand on the Wurlitzer.
Perhaps the song 'Lady' is an exception. But really, Supertramp would be one of the last bands to come into my mind when thinking of bass! |
I completely disagree.
Dougie Thompson's often-brilliant basswork is one of Supertramp instantly recognizable traits..
May I suggest you re-listen to their classic albums with the bass in mind?? [/QUOTE] one of the best bass songs IMO http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O23p86vJgrU" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O23p86vJgrU
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Posted By: Dr. Occulator
Date Posted: June 24 2011 at 13:55
Gandalff wrote:
I really like "Entwistle/Squire" style and that´s my choice too, but I must to agree with above mentioned, that it depends on the piece. |
Ditto on that!
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Posted By: Dr. Occulator
Date Posted: June 24 2011 at 13:57
Sean Trane wrote:
Garden of Dreams wrote:
I have to go with Geddy Lee's syncopation. |
That was my choice too, but it all depends on the type of track.... Geddy's parts in Xanadu are what gave me the envy to try out the bass as a teenager
thehallway wrote:
aginor wrote:
thehallway wrote:
All of these techniques have their place.... sometimes in one song!
But Yes's Fragile is the best (prog) album for bass; I mean, it's often the highest instrument in the mix on that album! | the bass is pretty dominent in Supertramps albums Crime of the Century, Crises what Crises, Even in the Quitest Moments, Breakfast in America and ...Famous Last Words, most of SP music is build around a THICK skelleton of a droning Fender jazz bass, with a incrdibly thick, solid, sharp, crunshy, and confident melodic bass lines.
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I'm afraid I'll have to disagree with you there!
To my humble ears, Supertramp has some of the least noticeable bass in prog, and often, the bass's only contribution to a song is to double up with Davies' left hand on the Wurlitzer.
Perhaps the song 'Lady' is an exception. But really, Supertramp would be one of the last bands to come into my mind when thinking of bass! |
I completely disagree.
Dougie Thompson's often-brilliant basswork is one of Supertramp instantly recognizable traits..
May I suggest you re-listen to their classic albums with the bass in mind?? |
I agree D. Thompson's bass playing is sublime very tasty. Very underrated player in my book.
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Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: June 24 2011 at 14:57
Whatever you'd consider ChaotH of Unexpect to be.
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Posted By: jean-marie
Date Posted: June 24 2011 at 18:49
Basic bass playing like the floyd on Carefull with that axe Eugene
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Posted By: thehallway
Date Posted: June 26 2011 at 14:26
Sean Trane wrote:
Garden of Dreams wrote:
I have to go with Geddy Lee's syncopation. |
That was my choice too, but it all depends on the type of track.... Geddy's parts in Xanadu are what gave me the envy to try out the bass as a teenager
thehallway wrote:
aginor wrote:
thehallway wrote:
All of these techniques have their place.... sometimes in one song!
But Yes's Fragile is the best (prog) album for bass; I mean, it's often the highest instrument in the mix on that album! | the bass is pretty dominent in Supertramps albums Crime of the Century, Crises what Crises, Even in the Quitest Moments, Breakfast in America and ...Famous Last Words, most of SP music is build around a THICK skelleton of a droning Fender jazz bass, with a incrdibly thick, solid, sharp, crunshy, and confident melodic bass lines.
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I'm afraid I'll have to disagree with you there!
To my humble ears, Supertramp has some of the least noticeable bass in prog, and often, the bass's only contribution to a song is to double up with Davies' left hand on the Wurlitzer.
Perhaps the song 'Lady' is an exception. But really, Supertramp would be one of the last bands to come into my mind when thinking of bass! |
I completely disagree.
Dougie Thompson's often-brilliant basswork is one of Supertramp instantly recognizable traits..
May I suggest you re-listen to their classic albums with the bass in mind?? |
I listen to their albums often.... the bass just never jumps out at me, and, when I have sat and analysed it, it hasn't been anything special in terms of harmony or sound. To say it was an instantly recognisable trait seems absolutely crazy to me...... Without the two vocalists and the electric piano, it could be any band! Are we talking about the same group here??
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Posted By: b4usleep
Date Posted: July 03 2011 at 15:51
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Posted By: jean-marie
Date Posted: July 03 2011 at 17:46
there are some fantastic intrumentalist with the bass, but i think a few sometimes forget the bass is supposed to give bass sounds, i mean sounds that you feel with your body, low frequencies,
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Posted By: JonteJH
Date Posted: July 03 2011 at 20:50
God i love this, Used as a Solo Instrument (Exivious, Prog Metal), almost made me shiver a little 
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